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2481  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: BITCOIN PUMP! on: December 13, 2022, 09:16:31 PM

La gente sta prelevando perché stanno fuddando pesantemente Binance. Da più parti ho letto che potrebbero esserci dietro gli americani, i Democratici in particolare, per quanto CZ ha fatto a SBF e a FTX, che alla fine era l'exchange americano di punta. Se sia un complotto o no non sta a me dirlo, sicuramente la tempistica è una coincidenza particolare. Tra l'altro poco prima del fallimento il caro SBF ha cercato di far saltare Tether, stable profondamente odiata dagli americani, così come Finex. Ma ripeto, sicuramente sono tutte coincidenze Roll Eyes

Non dimentichiamo comunque che nelle ultime settimane hanno creato FUD ad arte anche per CDC e KuCoin, giusto per citare degli exchange importanti.

Ti faccio un vaticinio: Se Binance saltera', dopo due mesi sara' tutto come prima.

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PS: ragazzi se davvero saltasse Binance altro che FTX, ditemi pure che BTC andrà avanti, la blockchain, le transazioni, i wallet, quello che volete, ma il valore andrà a cifre ridicole. Sicuramente saranno contenti i nipoti.

Il vero FUD e' diffondere l'idea  che il destino di bitcoin sia legato al destino di queste unita' centralizzate.
Non e' vero, non e' dimostrabile e sopratutto i fatti indicano che non e' cosi'.

Quando e' caduto MTGOX c'era praticamente solo lui, eppure bitcoin e' ancora qui.

Quanto e' caduto BTC-e non e' successo nulla.

(....lista sterminata)

Quanto e' caduto FTX non e' successo praticamente nulla.

Se Binance cadra', dopo qualche mese non si ricordera' piu' nessuno e ce ne saranno altri 50 pronti a sostituirlo.

Resta solo un sacco di gente inculata, ma sono inculati proprio perche' credono
nelle unita' centralizzate e non in Bitcoin, e quindi non hanno capito nulla
del messaggio di bitcoin.... e quindi sono inculati a prescindere.












Condivido in toto il pensiero.
Chi ha vissuto il crollo di mtgox ha assistito ad un momento epocale e ha visto il prezzo crollare in un paio di mesi.

In quel periodo (ottobre 2013) è stato anche arrestato il fondatore di silkroad. Praticamente tutta una serie di cigni neri che dovevano affondare definitivamente Bitcoin o lasciarlo a livelli di "esperimento sociale"...
Eppure oggi siamo qui. Con un prezzo e un ecosistema ben diverso che ha realizzato una crescita vigorosa.

Di questi sistemi centralizzati ne escono di continuo, negli anni abbiamo avuto tante piattaforme e tante altre sono scomparse. La forza di Bitcoin è nella decentralizzazione, tutto l'opposto rispetto ad usare un exchange centralizzato.
2482  Other / Meta / Re: Stake your Bitcoin address here on: December 12, 2022, 10:33:59 PM
Code:
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Today is Dec.12.2022 and I am Jayjones from the bitcointalk.org forum. declare 1924icW7d7b16SUhUwjxEquhsp2L4wAfDv is mine
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1924icW7d7b16SUhUwjxEquhsp2L4wAfDv
H0COisKzwFeBOFcvOkm7d3hlSbEgjFSyo/OQhbmkOYYCYKJyh/BQg2F7rJ2GnJp19cYdRZEOsQqvMlCoE9pIa7Y=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Please can someone quote and verify this for me, thanks !  BTC


quoted and verified
2483  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: BITCOIN PUMP! on: December 12, 2022, 09:56:44 PM
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Comunque sia meglio tornare a parlare di Bitcoin che è meglio 😅

ah perchè non siamo su caldaiatalk.org nel topic CAMINO PUMP! Roll Eyes Grin ?

Ok questo topic è un po un mischione di tutto quello che può vagamente girare con bitcoin però abbiamo una sezione OFF TOPIC dove si potrebbero approfondire certi argomenti...
2484  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: [RAFFLE] BitcoinTalk - 1° Raffle - Ticket = 50K Satoshi on: December 12, 2022, 09:52:51 PM
R
Ricordati che ho preso il 6  Tongue

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5421171.msg61297580#msg61297580
devi guardare il primo post non uno a caso prima che ti prenotavi Tongue Wink
2485  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: [RAFFLE] BitcoinTalk - 1° Raffle - Ticket = 50K Satoshi on: December 12, 2022, 05:27:01 PM
@gbianchi si è corretto. un singolo ticket permette di vincere più premi.
edit: ho aggiornato il regolamento della raffle con questo chiarimento.
2486  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: [RAFFLE] BitcoinTalk - 1° Raffle - Ticket = 50K Satoshi on: December 12, 2022, 05:05:07 PM
Grazie gbianchi, ne approfitto per chiarire questo aspetto ed ho anche aggiornato il topic iniziale:
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Verranno scelti 4 blocchi casuali (da produrre) per ciascun premio.
L’ultima cifra dell’hash determinerà il vincitore (in ordine dal 4°--->1°)
ESEMPIO: 

blocco 763200
 4° premio
000000000000000000078efb893c59c5a381ce7bbf65c01bedc6f9524e51855a
blocco 763201 3° premio
000000000000000000048232fcca7d559a194431c8bd8e2e3d79b73dca5dcdff
blocco 763202 2° premio
000000000000000000053b18f87487b5035bb3045081d956348a0967d2f08462
blocco 763203 1° premio
0000000000000000000384e85af95b0cc1e655b17b548c67e4f531f7c9a3215c
2487  Economy / Gambling / Re: Fun13.com seeding event on: December 12, 2022, 04:29:11 PM
What is this site? I don't understand.

check the name of this topic [Fun13.com seeding event] or this other post made by OP

...
https://www.fun13.com WE ARE LIVE


... in my opinion that needs to be fixed, for the problem of presenting the game it is quite good and complete...

Let's wait a reply by OP. All users have made the same observations about their site... Smiley
2488  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: [RAFFLE] BitcoinTalk - 1° Raffle - Ticket = 50K Satoshi on: December 12, 2022, 04:25:05 PM
nel caso non venissero venduti tutti i ticket ... "compro" quelli rimanenti e si procede con la riffa.

il blocco scelto verrà comunicato nei prossimi giorni, indicativamente sarà un blocco di questo weekend per poter spedire i premi tra il 16/22 Dicembre.

13 ticket ancora disponibili!
2489  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Tether: USDT is the next token to crash / Tether fraud exposed on: December 12, 2022, 02:29:25 PM
@OP
stablecoins have a number of inherent problems regardless of their actual "solvency".
I personally wouldn't use them regardless of it and in fact I don't Smiley and as much as possible in my small way I always discourage their use Wink
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Please elaborate on what those other inferent problems are, because solvency is the only thing that comes to mind. Because if stablecoins are solvent they work exactly as they are supposed to work.
....

if you ask me this question it means that you have never read their TOS Smiley https://tether.to/en/legal/#terms-of-service Roll Eyes .
I always invite people to do such read, because it effectively makes a product of this kind centralized and with a whole series of risks.
Pretty different from bitcoin and the nature of a "crypto currency".
2490  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Brazil Fan Token Down 60% After Losing to Croatia on: December 11, 2022, 10:41:15 PM
what would be the "use case" or utility of such a token?
does it hypothetically allow access to discounts or privileges for hodlers?
is it a sort of collectible "sticker" to keep in e-wallet? or is it simply a speculative product?

Unfortunately, in recent years we have seen an explosion of tokens of dubious utility (the vast majority of NFTs belong to this category). now let's see the consequences, with these "pumps and dumps"...
2491  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA 2022 world cup on: December 11, 2022, 10:06:46 PM
In the match France vs England, I agree that England was just unlucky.
They actually dominated the match, they were leading in the total shot attempts and they won the ball possessions. Unfortunately, they only can get a score from a penalty shot. The worse situation, Kane failed to score in the second penalty kick.


It's not just "lucky factor".
Every time England start a competition as if they are the super favorites, [an example was in the last europeans of 2020 in which they lost (at home) against italy] but they haven't won an international competition since 1966!
Among other things penalties are always a negative point in their performance... also in 2020 they lost for the same reason.

France is a much more "compact and well-known" team.
no surprise they arrived at this stage even during this competition.
2492  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Tether: USDT is the next token to crash / Tether fraud exposed on: December 11, 2022, 09:54:59 PM
@OP
stablecoins have a number of inherent problems regardless of their actual "solvency".
I personally wouldn't use them regardless of it and in fact I don't Smiley and as much as possible in my small way I always discourage their use Wink

I don't have the tools or the knowledge to deny or affirm that what you say is true, however, if you call a service as a scam / ponzi you must present tangible supporting evidence! otherwise it is really difficult to be taken seriously and these allegations can be classified as FUD.
2493  Local / Accuse scam/truffe / TRUFFA BITCOIN UP NELLE NEWS ANDROID on: December 11, 2022, 09:48:39 PM
Cari utenti, fate molta attenzione ai contenuti sponsorizzati che possono apparire tra le news di google/android.
infatti in questi giorni molti mi hanno segnalato la presenza di "bitcoin up" con la finta pagina di repubblica che pubblicizza "la piattaforma lanciata da TESLA «il cui obiettivo è aiutare le famiglie a migliorare il proprio benessere economico».
Inutile dire che si tratta di una truffa bella e buona che già è comparsa più e più volte *

per chi volesse approfondire l'argomento:
https://www.giornalettismo.com/truffa-bitcoin-sezione-news-android/
https://www.butac.it/elon-musk-bitcoin-up-repubblica/

* Nota curiosa: in passato ho segnalato come su Repubblica venissero pubblicizzati questa genere di "servizi" truffa Wink
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5237868.0
Insomma, sempre la solita storia, (e mi rivolgo soprattutto ai novizi) diffidate da questi siti/servizi!
2494  Economy / Gambling / Re: Fun13.com seeding event on: December 11, 2022, 09:29:59 PM
many banners and information on the site are not in English.
using a translator implies privacy "problems" as well as exposing yourself to a lot of translation errors.
if the target is something global... you have to update this aspect (at least create a version translated into plan english).

there is a banner that show "38 million dollars" have already been distributed/withdrawn.
pure curiosity: how long have you been active with this site?
2495  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Using Bonus Buy or Not Using Bonus Buy? on: December 10, 2022, 10:26:05 PM
buying bonuses is fun but offers no chance to increase your chances of winning. I am personally not a fan of slot games. I find it seriously boring and avoid playing it.
The bonus purchase I think is a fun option and a good compromise at least for me, since it is quite fast and gives the illusion of winning a bigger jackpot than the base game
BTW buying bonuses is fun but offers no chance to increase your chances of winning.

The bonus purchase I think provide much fun (a kind of evolution for these games) likewise a good compromise at least for me, since it is quite fast and gives the illusion of winning a bigger jackpot than the basic game.
2496  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sport Event Can Increase Our Money By Placing A Bet on: December 10, 2022, 04:52:24 PM
in this World Cup there have been so many surprises (see Saudi Arabia against Argentina or Japan against Germany) that were really difficult to predict.
 
@OP I don't think there are only "positive" accounts but also "negative" accounts! I think you should also consider this option to have a truthful survey.
2497  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA 2022 world cup on: December 10, 2022, 02:01:08 PM
During this World Championship we have seen many surprises and Morocco was able to beat two of the strongest European teams (Belgium and Spain - penalty).
Ok, Portugal is the favorite and have shown that they are at high levels... but the fact remains that surprises can already happen, and matches are not played "on paper".
2498  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can you pass stakes proof of income verfiication? on: December 10, 2022, 01:52:25 PM
anyone with a salary paid through a bank account is able to pass such a check.
(more or less all bettors in western countries who have a more or less stable job).
Obviously if you bet 100K usd and receive 500usd per month it's really difficult, indeed impossible to overcome it.

Since we are talking about a site that manages cryptocurrencies, a "proof of bitcoin purchase", for example from a bank statement, would also have been interesting.
Additionally, I believe winning from another (reputable) casino should be included.

I don't know how such a thing can be proven legally.
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A Gift from a family member or close relative ( You will need to send us a donor's letter explaining the reason for the gift and the source of their wealth. Also, we will require certified identification documents from donor )
Do you need a notary who certifies the donation? It's ok a letter with documents from donor?
2499  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [ANN] [DISCUSSION] Not your keys, not your coins test on: December 10, 2022, 01:46:16 PM
Available for a test. Cool
2500  Economy / Gambling / Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding? on: December 10, 2022, 12:15:13 PM
We know very well that it's simply a way like any other to attract an audience to their activities.

many of these sites know very well that with the current laws they cannot operate by proposing a site without KYC and licenses, therefore they choose these marketing expedients. Maybe they have some * on their promo?!?

considering that bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies provide a level of "pseudo" anonymity such an activity is always borderline Wink
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