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2481  Economy / Economics / Re: When do you buy Bitcoin ? on: July 21, 2016, 07:03:09 AM
I did buy bitcoins before using Paypal because I really need bitcoins at that time. I was gambling in Bustabit and I get kind of into it. I started making scripts and wanted to try the strategies that I have made. I also bought some bitcoins when I was a newbie because I wanted to invest in scrypt.cc which turned out to be a scam. Those were the only times I bought bitcoins ever since. The bitcoins that I have right now are all from the earnings of doing tasks online.


I did by bitcoin using my paypal funds with the use of virwox but my paypal fund is not enough and I still need 0.005 in able to get it to my bitcoin wallet. So I still need to wait for my paypal fund from my other source so that I can able to cash out my bitcoin.

That sounds crazy. That is why I am not using much of that service anymore. I already depleted all my money from my Paypal accounts and just put it in my bitcoin wallet. Now it is easier to withdraw whenever I need fiat and it is fast.
Good decision mate, you should have done that before because you could save so much with bitcoins. Not only that you can treat your bitcoins like investment as it will earn interest more than banks are offering.
2482  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: WAVES. Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform. on: July 21, 2016, 06:52:01 AM
Does anyone have any idea why does waves not go over 34k? I understand nodes have  not yet been released etc, I am just wondering why this number? What is so special about price just below ICO? It reaches this from time to time but then always falls. Whales playing "games' or is it something else?

Only dev team know what are the facts and what is going behind the scene, this is very confusing situation for people who are in from ICO period, right now it is just an wallet nothing more than but when the development will finished than it will be worthy maybe will get 2x price.
The developers is just making sure that everything are done according to plan, I would say that base on the volume waves are in stable position now and it takes a little time that we should wait before the legitimate pump will happen.
2483  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you quit your day job to go full time on bitcoin? on: July 21, 2016, 06:48:10 AM
i think it's good idea to full time on bitcoin, it's not diffirent with your real job, you can be progamer or open new startup, then you can withdraw your bitcoin and use the fiat. it's a normal nothing diffirent with your job.
It's could be a great potential for programmers or those who has related educational backgrounds to do that, but its hard for people who haven't. It's fair to see people who don't want to go full time on bitcoin, because I'm sure most of them don't learn programming or crypto world.
I think employment in the real job and in bitcoin off course different. you work outside or in an office while you're working on bitcoin
you could be work in the house and without any pressure from the boss or any party earnings may be fixed if you were in a real job.

Employment will give you a steady income will not guarantee you a comfortable life when you retire, you will only earn limited amount in employment though you have already did your best for the improvement of the company so I prefer quitting job and do my own business here in the crypto world.

Well its your decision to quit your job and go full on bitcoin. You have a point that youll earn  limited amount in having a job but its okay rather than nothing and you can still sustain  your needs especially if you have a family. Go full on bitcoin does not guarantee that it would make your life comfortable or financially free since bitcoin is not stable and anytime would fall then you already quitted you job? what will you do now??

It is going to be risky and challenging if you are going to be full time in bitcoin. And the opportunities are quite limited and it's up to you on how you are going to manage your time and effort for working full time with bitcoin. But if you are lucky to enter the industry of creating a good website that is going to have a lot of customers for sure you are going to be profitable with it.
I think that is good to be challenging because that is when we are going to learn more and it is fact that the world is hard to live when you are not that hard working. We should rich our dreams no matter what we should not be easily to surrender with the trials along the way in our journey.
2484  Economy / Economics / Re: The future of the paper money on: July 21, 2016, 06:37:44 AM
Future remains intact of the paper money as worldwide there cannot be one currency. Paper money will not disappear anytime soon, maybe it will be replaced by something else similar to paper. Bitcoin could act as an secondary currency if country adopts it.

Paper money would not disappear since its been used for many centuries even there are lots of kinds of currency out there, one would be replace and one currency would exist . You stated that bitcoin would act as secondary, yes it would  since theres no possibility that bitcoin could replace paper money since btc was made of codes  it a different story and shouldnt be compare.
In the future it could be more on digital money rather than paper money but we cannot predict when it will happen. There is a good possibility that it will happen because the world is starting to switch into paperless economy.
2485  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: July 21, 2016, 06:32:36 AM
gamble means risk.if your luck is with you,you can do well. but you aren't out of risk.so,you should use small amount that you can afford to lose.but gambling always a risk,so be careful.   Wink
Majority of the gamblers rely on their luck to win and I can say that it is not the safes way. We should make our own techniques to win in gambling and apply it with discipline and by limiting our bets we can last in gambling.
2486  Economy / Economics / Re: How too get rich on: July 21, 2016, 06:28:54 AM
Well, you can start by stopping spending your money on things you can't actually afford. Let's face it, we're being controlled by the media. Our journey towards becoming rich is prolonged day by day because of all these pressure that we should buy the latest gadgets, that we should go get coffee in Starbucks every single morning. If you look at it, those products are all just overpriced stuffs and the cheap ones are just as good (sometimes even better).

Remember, rich people don't spend their money on things like this. They don't buy iPhone 6s+ just to show off people. They don't do shopping just because of their social circle, and that's how they've become rich. They spend their money wisely.

although i agree that not spending money on wasteful things but that is not the way to get rich. you need to earn money in the right way and you need to earn a lot of money from your job. because it doesn't matter how little you spend when you are earning a little too.
We only need a little portion of our earnings just to survive our daily living and we should save the rest for the future investment, when you have accumulated a decent amount from your savings it would be easy for you to invest when you spot an opportunity.
2487  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? on: July 21, 2016, 06:26:10 AM
If you are addicted to gambling, sooner or later your life and even your family lifes will be destroyed. If you do not have any other skills in gambling rather than just relying on luck, then it is certain you will lose. Only a handful of people in this world who can benefit from gambling and on average they are cheaters.
Yes, even some gambler got their life better with a gambling, it is highly hard for them to keep their life better always with  gambling. Because one day or other, gambling will show it's dangerous face with losses like many gamblers got small profits in long term but losing all the profits in a single day. So, never expect a life from gambling, your better life from gambling turns into get ruined in just a single day.
Only few are successful in gambling and they are consistently making money, I believe there are good handicappers out there who makes money in sports consistently and that is the living proof that we can make money in sports betting.
2488  Economy / Economics / Re: How to save money. on: July 20, 2016, 02:39:22 PM
Inflation rates in most countries eat saving money so I think everyone should not save a lot of money because by time its value is declining. only save what you may need in an emergency
i think if you do not want exposed to inflation you have to move the bulk of your wealth in a strong currency like the dollar or poundsterling or maybe you could try bitcoin, bitcoin might be protected from inflation, but I think you can not avoid fluctuations which continue to exist in bitcoin

Forget the two, we should just invest with bitcoins, dollars and pound are still subject to inflation due to economic crisis, while bitcoin price does not merely rely on the status of a certain country, the price is dictated by the demand of the actual supplies.
2489  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: July 20, 2016, 02:37:46 PM
the reason to gamble for profit, I do not want to lose my money just for fun.
there are many way to get fun, not only from gambling.
Yes there is some other ways to have fun but for me in gambling i can do both. enjoying the game while playing and hoping to earn as well. but i spend extra money only so if i lose im not going to feel bad.
I only focus on fun because I don't want to feel bad again every time I lose. I would not spend my emotions feeling sad in gambling as I have so many things more important to manage in my life. Gambling is just a pure fun for me and nothing more.
2490  Economy / Speculation / Re: How will halving affect the value? on: July 20, 2016, 02:32:11 PM
You are right, if the price will remain stable we should be thankful enough as this year we witness a good price. However, the halving is done and we know that price will rise so take the opportunity to buy since the price has not increase that much.

The price of bitcoin will rise gradually after September or October. That was what happened in 2012.

Yup Even I believe the same bro! But somehow it gives stability around 600$ at present, In future We can see more adoption and price rise in upcoming years.
I have noticed that large number of newbies in bitcointalk, that means in future we can see huge followers for this digital currency!
$600 is just fine for me at the moment because my earnings has a great value when converted to fiat by I also care for my investment so I believe that the price will increase more than its current price as a result of halving. The next few months would be crucial as we will be seeing a good price increase.
2491  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: July 20, 2016, 02:26:10 PM
There are no safe ways to gamble that just does not exist the casinos need to make money to so you will have to play by there rules.
The odds are in the casino there favors and you cannot change that.

That's right, gambling is always in favor of the house, or else the gambling site will fall..  In anyway you look at it, when you enter a gambling site and invest in your bankroll, its almost like you are saying that the house is taking over your money or that it is not yours anymore. So there is no safe way to gamble, all those techniques that were exposed, if its true, sooner it will be fixed by the gambler, and those that are not true, well, it is just said to you so you won't worry when you are losing.
And that is why gambling sites are exploding in the bitcoin world because that is so profitable, and I think to be safe this time we need to take the opportunity given to us, instead of betting against the house we should just invest.

Yeah, that's right, we should invest in side with the house for us not to waste our money on gambling..But if I will be asked if that is still gambling, I think it is already investing, just like in trading sites.
It is really an investing because your risk is very low as we know that the house always wins. We should not be worrying anymore in making profit because we will make constant profit in investing in gambling sites. Our addiction should be treated by doing investment rather than playing.
2492  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? on: July 20, 2016, 02:20:57 PM
Gambling can wreck your life when you put everything at stake and all is busted otherwise loosing some bucks can make you frustrate but can not have huge effect on your life. Gambling fixes life I don't believe this can happen as it is just disastrous soon you are going to give all winnings back if you win some jackpot too.

Gambling is designed just for that, it is not made for fixing anyone's life, it is made for those people who has a lot of money and it won't bother them at all even if they lose thousands of dollars in gambling, it is not concept made for those who has a limited amount of money and wants to have more with it.
Gambling is just an entertainment so it would not fix your life, we should look it that way to be safe as the moment we will focus in gambling it will take a huge part on our life and we cannot live without gambling and we know that those who live in gambling will also die on it.
2493  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: July 20, 2016, 02:17:37 PM
The best way to steady your income by doing nothing i think invest it in bitcoin. Your bitcoin steady in your bitcoin wallet because everyday bitcoin get high or low. But wait the value of bitcoin getting double. That is best way steady your income. Just you need to wait for your profit.
Investing will not guarantee a profit because the price of bitcoins is not going in one direction only, the price volatility will not give you a steady income and only those who makes day trading will earn and those who hold their bitcoins in the long period of time.
2494  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: July 20, 2016, 02:13:29 PM
I don't think like that, because i always apply management of risk, management of money. I never play gambling with what can not lost it. And even if i lost my money i am still happy because gambling for me just for fun not more.

Well if you are not thinking any necessarily profit in gambling and just thinking about the fun in playing gambling then I assume it is OK with you if you don't get anything from it, and you can manage your every bets and every expenses you put on gambling.
Yes! because as a gambler who are into fun rather than the money we already understand that the moment we enter in gambling our chances of losing is very big so we just need to enjoy the game to get the benefits of our loses.

Losing is something reasonable in the gambling and all people would understand it. But if the person lost and do stupid things (crying, anger, etc.) then that person does not have the responsibility for all the things that do. So did have to enjoy each game is done
Why not we can classify crying is as a type of enjoyment. Because we know about losses in gambling, and the consequence of gambling is also well known to every gambler. Still we are going for gambling and facing losses all the time. When you are ready to accept fun and thrills why not you be ready to accept sorrow also.
Crying because you lose is not a good sign, you are a weak gambler in that sense and I would just prefer to cry if I win so much in gambling as it is so sweet to cry for the real tears of job. If you can easily be affected in gambling you will not succeed in the long run so you should not gamble at all.
2495  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling loses and wins on: July 20, 2016, 09:44:59 AM
All my wins are more them all my losses .
That is good.  Grin
It is mostly a lose for people, I am lucky !  Tongue
That is your Luck, as I am seeing here on this forum that a number of people are of the view that they are losing more then what they win or their loses and victories are neutral, so in that they do not get from gambling. But this kind of no loss and no profit situations are much better than some gambler's always loss situations.
Exactly, because when you are just neutral in gambling that could mean that you are not enjoying in gambling, we should all seek to win to justify our time played in gambling, however, if we just want to have fun then let us just play without think our losses.

Only professionals track their loses while typical gamblers does not.
2496  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? on: July 20, 2016, 09:39:09 AM
Gambling can wreck your life when you put everything at stake and all is busted otherwise loosing some bucks can make you frustrate but can not have huge effect on your life. Gambling fixes life I don't believe this can happen as it is just disastrous soon you are going to give all winnings back if you win some jackpot too.

Yeah, if you give your all in gambling, it would really wreck your life.. Focusing too much on gambling would really wreck your life. In anyway you look at it, if you are not wasting your resources in gambling, for sure you are wasting your time in there, you won't learn anything from it that could be useful in real life.
Yes! gambling should not make a big impact in our life as that is very dangerous. It should only be played for fun and play it occasionally to prevent from being addicted.

We don't need to be fix here because we should not allow gambling to wreck our life.
2497  Economy / Economics / Re: I'm not gonna sell any coin. on: July 20, 2016, 09:33:10 AM
your decision is right about not sell your any coin, its right time to hold your bitcoin because bitcoin rise up its price too much faster than other currency and more people investing their money in bitcoin .
Of course, never sell your coins when you see the price is slowly rising as it will have a good value in the future, however you should also be consistent in monitoring your investment so you could do sell it at the right time.

Slow rise means stability around that price so people can consider it as a buying rate if they want to take the risk to buy at that rate. And I agree with your last statement, don't just hold and hold as it will just take you for another round of holding resulting for more other days or even months of waiting. Just take part of every price rally to earn more when selling and to accumulate more when buying.
The good thing is it is really good to make day trading here in the crypto world as coins usually fluctuates that hard and if you know how to spot an opportunity you can easily make consistent money.
2498  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: July 20, 2016, 09:30:46 AM
I get a good steady income from the signature campaign. I also get bitcoin of trade, although not stable, but sometimes I can get greater results than Signature campaign.

If we are looking for steady income from bitcoin then signature campaign is the only way to earn it as other sources are risky and cannot expect stable income from it.
one can earn from trading, gambling and from other sources. These provide good profits and sometimes gives heavy losses but can't give a steady income throughout. The only way for that can be signature campaigns.

Yeah but income from signature campaign is limited and if you are looking for higher income then you need to take that risk and should invest some money in trading for regular profits.
Of course income in sign ature campaign will be limited and maybe only sign camp that you use or follow will quit because they thought the promotion was enough. so I think you need at least 2-5 other methods if you want to earn a great income and fixed. So start now look for other methods in addition to signing camp


Signature campaign is a great way to start making money in this forum, you are receiving a steady income and at the same time you also learn and updated of the recent happenings in the community. If you are paying attention to the thread you have participated you can get valuable lessons that would help your decide on what your investment will be.
2499  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your gambling strategy on: July 20, 2016, 09:26:56 AM
I don't have any strategy because many time I say I will play with limited amount of low bets or few bets of bigger amount. When I start play never saw any preplan working for me. I know just start playing randomly and suddenly stop. I see this random betting method more effect sometimes works and other times doesn't for me important is to not be in losses that's all.


Meanwhile in another side of the world there's someone who has the exact principle as yours.  Grin
Too much losses that I began to hate to make a strategy for betting.
Your betting strategy should be adjusted when you determine that it is not successful, without strategy in gambling it is not fun to play as sometimes in gambling we become so smart to come up with the strategy we can use to improve our winning percentage.
2500  Economy / Economics / Re: How too get rich on: July 20, 2016, 09:23:06 AM
there are many ways to get rich , you can invest your money into bitcoin and then hold your bitcoin until wait for increasing it price in huge amount , and other way is earning bitcoin through on trading of bitcoin .then you can get a big profit for make yourself to rich .
Investing now is only for the rich as the price will not grow that much in the succeeding years, we need to have a decent amount of invest to enjoy the profit, however if we are just ordinary workers here we should not hold but invest in short term investment.
I think you should be working harder to be rich. it takes more than an investment to get rich, open a new business, compete, get a high paying job, getting a promotion, well very much to do to become rich. hard work is the key to it all, but you also have to enjoy it, because if you do not enjoy it, just the stress that you get.
But it should start with working to save and then invest, that is the cycle because majority of us here were not born rich and the taste of success is really good when you start from being a small dreamer.
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