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2481  Economy / Reputation / I'm now a self-made Legendary - thank you! on: July 06, 2021, 07:37:37 PM
Recently I have earned my 1000th merit, which means my Legendary rank, which was achieved a long time ago, is now fully deserved. Thank you all, my dear Bitcointalkers!

The lesson that I learned on this journey is to just be yourself - don't try to impress people, don't bait them for merit, do not view ranking up as a career, just use this forum as a social network that it is. Anyone can become a Legendary if they put just a little bit of effort into their posts and have a bit of knowledge about Bitcoin.
2482  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC Prices and Transaction Volumes After Difficulty Change on: July 05, 2021, 11:46:03 PM
Reminds me of 2019 posts when there was a lot of "price follows hashrate" trends and I always thought there was a somewhat logical tinge to that -- the higher the difficulty, the higher the hashrate, the more secure the network. But I believe even at this 20+% drop, the network isn't practically less secure, is it? So price probably does follow hashrate, but only up to an effective point (a point that's unknown to me).


Yes, it's not like 51% attack will become possible after this 20% drop. Think about it, it didn't happen in the past when hashrate was 50% lower. Price and hashrate are influencing each other, but it was never a mathematical formula that ties them both together exactly. We've seen a lot of times one change without the other changing much, or many examples of opposite reactions at different times.
2483  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I owe Michael Saylor an Apology.. on: July 05, 2021, 11:36:41 PM
Someone's qualifications don't make them automatically right all the time. You know that there's a lot of highly educated nocoiners, including some Nobel prize winners. Hell, even CWS holds a lot of degrees.

And the problem here isn't even whether he's correct or not, it's just that he uses way too much silly allegories that make us Bitcoiners look weird to people who don't know anything about Bitcoin. If I didn't knew anything about Bitcoin, his tweets would make me not want to buy Bitcoin.
2484  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Human society is migrating to "math governance" through Bitcoin. on: July 05, 2021, 11:17:55 PM
Here, I am very grateful to every friend who replies to me for further improving my knowledge system . Now, I further refine my view. The thought I want to express in this article is: human society is migrating from "human governance" to "math governance" through Bitcoin.

Bitcoin certainly is a remarkable invention, but in the grand scheme of things it's not very influential for now. With adoption being so low, Bitcoin can't really be viewed as a new paradigm for humanity, it's just a niche tool, a tiny alternative system. I don't see Bitcoin shaping humanity's future until at least 20% of the population is actively using, maybe even more. And that's a very big condition, because right now the adoption level is around a few million people globally. That's a pretty low result for something that exists more than 10 years.
2485  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Could the LN be the cause of the incentive's dead end? on: July 05, 2021, 10:11:41 PM
While the block reward stills gives a fair amount of bitcoins, it won't do in one or two decades. The miners will have to arrange their business based on the transaction fees. And now I'm asking; how will the system work if we all move to the LN? Sure, by opening and closing channels we broadcast transactions to the main layer, but if the majority behaved just like how I did, the mempool won't ever full.

If all on-chain transactions were LN channel opening/closing and a significant part of the population tried to switch to Bitcoin, the mempool would instantly be full and fees would skyrocket. If more LN adoption will mean more Bitcoin adoption, there won't be any problems. Another thing is, people would still be doing on-chain transactions, simply because they are more reliable (not that LN transactions are unsecure, but on-chain ones with enough confirmations are 100% solid). People won't be buying cars or houses through LN.
2486  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin brings us true freedom of thought on: July 05, 2021, 06:07:39 PM
Before the birth of Bitcoin, we never thought that private individuals could issue currency, nor did we think that digital currency could truly be used as a payment medium, let alone the rationality of the existence of legal currency. But when Bitcoin was born, everything changed.

Private money as a concept existed long before Bitcoin, I know that Hayek envisioned them, but maybe there are even earlier examples. And digital payments have existed long before Bitcoin too.

We began to doubt the monetary exploitation of us by government agencies. We began to think about the irrationality of various centralized financial institutions. We started fighting for our currency independence. We began to use Bitcoin to protect our wealth from inflation. We began to think about all kinds of injustices in society.

It didn't start with Bitcoin, ever since the fiat system was established, there were people who opposed it.

Bitcoin is in many ways revolutionary, but it's no the first in literally everything it does.
2487  Economy / Speculation / Re: 22 july, BTC 20k$ or 70k$? on: July 04, 2021, 10:17:45 PM
Neither. Bitcoin's price will not forever be tied to Elon Musk's opinions. It wasn't even tied in the past, Musk tweets simply triggered the price crash that was already building up due to the loss of bullish momentum. On July 22 the price will move up or down a few thousands of dollars at most, if it will move at all. And Dorsey will definitely not be able to convince Musk to accept Bitcoin payments again, because he has to answer to shareholders who don't want this to happen.
2488  Economy / Economics / Re: What role will Bitcoin play in the face of superpowers in the future? on: July 04, 2021, 10:09:20 PM
I guess that in the coming decades, more and more African or Latin American countries will tend to use Bitcoin as their legal currency, which can help them resist the erosion of the US dollar. However, the Super Congress insisted on issuing its own legal currency and controlling its exchange rate with Bitcoin. I guess that for China, the final result may be to ask the public to hand over its bitcoin to the country and give it the equivalent value of CNY.


It's way too early to make such predictions, we need to see how El Salvador's experiment will play out. If it will flop, few countries will want to repeat this, especially with programs like giving away pre-loaded wallets, or just updating their infrastructure to accept Bitcoin transactions, which can be too costly for poor countries. It will take 2-4 years to see the results of El Salvador's decision.
2489  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Black Paper on: July 04, 2021, 09:55:37 PM
Anytime someone says they will prove something with math, I'm bracing myself for a load of bad science due to poor methodology, numbers pulled out of ass, made-up equations and so on.

I agree with possibility that Bitcoin could decline by 95% or more if existing users will lose faith in it and there will be no adoption, but there are absolutely no signs of it happening, in fact it all looks the opposite as Bitcoin gets more and more recognition with each year.
2490  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin's transaction volume in 2029 on: July 03, 2021, 11:31:39 PM
It's safe to say that Bitcoin is already here to stay, unless something very unforeseen happens, but chances for that are extremely tiny. However, if we ignore Lightning Network, transaction volume is probably be no different from what we have now, because it's unlikely we'll have a blocksize increase in this decade. And Lightning Network would actually make it very hard to count volume, because you can't monitor its transactions, so we'd have only some estimates.
2491  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What Happens to the People Wanting to Run a Node in 20+ Years? on: July 03, 2021, 02:53:13 PM
Yes, people will have to wait and download the whole blockchain, hopefully the bandwith will increase by that time. I would be more concerned about longer perspective, like 100 or 200 years, if our storage and bandwith technology will stagnate, eventually running a node could become a big problem, and the network would be slowly becoming more decentralized. Perhaps a blocksize reduction would be needed at some point in the future to combat this. But this is a problem for future generations.
2492  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is the only thing that humans cannot control on: July 03, 2021, 02:36:35 PM
People can't control weather, people can't control cosmic processes, people can't even cure all diseases. Bitcoin is just software, and by definition it is controlled by people. Bitcoin community agrees or rejects on changes - that's control. Any ideas that Bitcoin is an independent entity are nothing more than Saylor-style cringe pseudophilosophy aimed at impressing noobs. IMO it even makes Bitcoin look bad, like some sort of a cult or a scam. Please, stop.
2493  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Gov must have power to reverse transactions, says co-chair of blockchain caucus on: July 02, 2021, 11:41:05 PM
I'm pretty sure any and all CBDCs (in the US, at least) will be fully compliant with whatever the FBI wants, including complete power to deanonymize, freeze, reverse, or seize transactions and coins.

Of course they will be, but I was thinking more about privately created cryptocurrencies, maybe managed by a company, or even decentralized like the real cryptocurrencies, but with this backdoor for governments. They will try to sell it as a more decentralized alternative to CBDC, though of course it wouldn't matter with this full backdoor.
2494  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How Quality Can A Newbie's Post Be? on: July 02, 2021, 10:25:44 PM
You don't get merit for quality posts, you get merit for posts that other people like or respect. Quality posts are not the only kind of posts that falls within this category, it could also be a funny post or a simple opinion post. However, I would advice you from making posts for baiting merits, people can easily see through it.
2495  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I want to talk about Soros and Bitcoin. on: July 02, 2021, 10:03:54 PM
Quote from: clippers link=topic=5347207.msg57368656#msg57368656

I prefer the first of these two possibilities. With Elon Musk as a precedent, Soros should realize that just tweeting or releasing news can no longer affect the price of Bitcoin in a large range. And I also think that Soros, as an old-school financial player, needs to take a certain amount of time to accept Bitcoin.

News and tweets can absolutely affect Bitcoin, and this will be happening for a long time. Bitcoin's short-term price is decided by day-traders who quickly act on the tiniest news.

And it's pointless to give Soros advice, he's one of the best traders in the world, he knows what to do.
2496  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Bearish Case for Bitcoin on: July 02, 2021, 02:10:41 AM
Nocoiner bears are very emotional, they present their opinions as facts and simply state that Bitcoin will go to zero because they feel that it's bad. There's actually not much good bearishness about Bitcoin, but this doesn't mean that Bitcoin is flawless and will have a guaranteed bright future. Things like the warnings of Core devs that Bitcoin is an experimental techonology that could fail in the future is an example of positive bearishness. It's a reminder to never go all in on something that still is considered an experiment.
2497  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If bitcoin as currency, how the merchant manage the block confirmation? on: July 01, 2021, 11:30:55 PM
Yes, confirmation time is a bit of a problem, but fees is a bigger problem, because instead of just being annoying they make certain transactions just uneconomic. So, Lightning Network is the answer to both problems, and will most likely be used for all small transactions in the next 5-10 years. IMO if Bitcoin on-chain fees will be low enough for small transactions, it will be a sign that Bitcoin is not being used as money, because 7-12 transactions per second is really-really low.
2498  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Gov must have power to reverse transactions, says co-chair of blockchain caucus on: July 01, 2021, 11:20:29 PM
Sooner or later we'll see a fully compliant shitcoin where FBI or some other agency will hold a master key that would allow them to do whatever they want with transactions and coins. And of course this coin will be advertised as a coin for mass adoption, and I'm pretty sure it will fail just like CBDC will fail, because crypto enthusiasts are not interested in this centralized crap, and regular people are not interested in crypto in general.
2499  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you pay with Bitcoin whenever you're able to? on: June 30, 2021, 07:15:44 PM
I'm in the same boat as you, not being able to pay with BTC, because no one is accepting it. But that's probably because I almost never buy anything on p2p marketplaces, and big retailers don't accept BTC here. Although I actually never heard about crypto being used for payments often in my country, aside from drugs.

But even if I had such option, I'd probably use fiat instead, because Bitcoin is an appreciating asset, so I'd rather get rid of fiat first, especially with how unstable it is in my country.
2500  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The first response to satoshi's Bitcoin whitepaper on: June 29, 2021, 09:05:02 PM
And sadly these words still hold true to this day, even if Lightning Network will get widely adopted in the next few years, the on-chain capacity would still be not enough to allow Bitcoin to be as popular as major fiat payment networks. Our main hope is some new fundamental breakthrough in Bitcoin protocol that would allow even more scalability without compromising any decentralization like bigblockers want. But it could take many years before such change is even invented, and then more years before it's implemented.
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