Just had a thought - possible stolen goods?

Seller was very specific he did not want his location revealed possibly as the story would have made the news.

Untraceable bitcoin for payment so willing to take the hit selling below spot.

May be worth elianite having a quick check on google to see if any reported thefts have happened recently in the sellers location.

I think any of usual exchangers are trustworthy, cryptology, shdvb

what can you do, not a lot

How do you know the username he gave you over skype is his actual username here?

You will need to post more detail, screenshots etc.

His following statement really worries me -


How can seller continue to sell unlimited gold at 20% + under spot.

Bearing in mind these are 2015 coins so not like he bought them years ago at a far cheaper price.

This whole situation stinks of scam and peoples greed is getting the better of them.

Hi ForzaYuan,

Can you drop me a pm with any updates for this month as its probably pay day tomorrow.

Rapidly approaching 6 months now.

deleted my post too linking here for the coin pics.

Very strange guy

Any bullion dealer or slightly larger pawn shop should be able to xrf/ultrasonic test it, usually for free too if you tell them you are thinking of selling it

XRF/ultrasonic is a non destructive test, plenty of vids online.

With tungsten coins the usual scratch and acid test wont really work as they are heavy gold plated (+ the scratch and acid will spoil the coin)

Couple of tests you can do at home -

Check dimensions with digital calipers if available
Accurate weight check
Specific gravity test
Magnetic test
Detail check of coins fonts sizing and spacing, fine coin details against high res online picture.

A good tungsten copy would pass all the above tests though.  

the relief, detail and colour look correct too me.

If you do sell it be interesting if the xrf test comes back good.

So either a genuine seller that lost the plot on pricing or part of a drawn out long con after some initial trust is built.

Time will tell

p.s. get that coin back in the capsule asap, .9999 gold is soft and scratches and dings easily.

the coin looks right, showing slightly under weight as it should be 31.1g but could be scales accuracy but tungsten core coins are very close in dimensions & weight.

Changing my feedback to neutral, OP has delivered the coin as promised, authenticity still to be proven.

Not giving positive or completely removing feedback as lack of Escrow is a worry and could be a long con.

Will be interesting what price the maple grams sell at as Goldbits stated he did not have them in hand so selling at below retail price would be a concern.

Any chance of some clear face on pics of the coin and not angled shots.

Any coin dimensions.

drum roll 

fingers crossed for you

Are you planning on having an xrf test done etc?

Stopping scammers is not being a troll 

The guy has delete hundreds of posts from his thread.

Fake bars can also come with serials some nice example of Pamp Suisse bars on google.

Even if the sale was genuine and not a puppet account and he offers further coins at stupid prices I would not go near without escrow.

For what your paying - 20% or greater under spot I would also destructive test the gold to ensure there is no tungsten core hiding inside, you loose any coin premium but still a nice profit at melt value.

ill remove my negative feedback when that coin is received by a buyer @ 4BTC and is tested as genuine.

The coin looks legit to me but there are some very good tungsten based copies available now.

Also just because you hold it does not mean you are going to ship at the advertised price (hence the initial escrow avoidance)

Hope to be proved wrong and I have no probs admitting I was wrong if the time comes

Nothing wrong with applying due diligence due to the hoard of scammers on this site.

Lots of Escrow advice here -

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=108716.0

there are also automated website escrows available too.

Reasonable question 2 - why sell the coin at a loss when you could sell at any local bullion dealer, jeweler or pawn shop for significantly more money.

Reasonable question 3 - why are you so dead set against Escrow used for buyer protection?

The idiot is still at it.

How does he even earn the money to buy the gold when he spends all day deleting posts from his scam thread.

This idiot needs banning.

Amazing how greed still draws people in even though its an obvious scam, human nature I suppose 

Seen as Goldbits has locked his first thread and made his other a self moderated thread I thought I would raise the scammer here

Profile -
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=454486

Thread -
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=964758.0


Accusation -

Offering 1 X 1oz Gold Buffalo @ 4BTC about 20% under spot  

He is also very proficient at deleting posts from his thread he doesn't like  

Usual scammer profile applies -

Newbie member - check
No trade history - check
Refusing Escrow - check
Wants you to send 1st - check
No pics of goods on offer - check
Goods offered at amazing price - check

1 of 3 scenarios apply -

1) Either he doesnt have the coin full stop and its a scam.
2) He has one but has no intention of sending it so a scam.
3) He has a piss poor fake/copy hoping to pass it off as the real thing.