Just go for a gangsta gold chain to pass a couple of kilos across any customs.  Just avoid this:  |
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Maybe launching a service to facilitate capital flight?
That's the only thing that has any chance of some traction since Bitcoin is so far out of their general population's world view making it extremely hard to accept as valid. But a path to avoid capital controls is surely going be attractive once their government starts limiting people's freedom with their money. Awesome! Now we are getting somewhere! How would you envision such a service working? No idea and I personally probably fear the monopoly on violence a bit too much in order to engage in breaking the capital control rules in a foreign country. But I imagine someone will want to take that risk and facilitate capital flow out of the country and instead of smuggling cash they can do it with bitcoins. S/t like that may be done in a legal way. In Greece you would have just to sell bitcoins for euros, and maybe sometimes offering some help to send them. This should still be legal (until they outlaw bitcoins). Now, Greeks are exporting billions of euros and many of them find attractive to export capital undetected in order to not pay taxes on it; that's why they may like bitcoins. The only difficulty might be finding someone in Switzerland or wherever they want to export their money available to exchange their bitcoin for cash in person at a decent rate, assuming that they do not want use exchange agencies. I do not think that many of them would be ready to use confidently the OTC market (which is too mostly dependent on bank transactions). Even if we may be a bit late for this, a second opportunity may likely come after the re-dracmatization, when much exported capitals will likely return, again ideally undetected, to take advantage of the huge devaluation. Then there would be quite some local demand to buy dracmas with BTC. |
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E' un ottima idea, anche se ne andrebbe un po a minarsi il fattore privacy.
Normalmente questi servizi possono essere disattivati e riattivati con un paio di clik. Quindi uno puo' attivarlo solo quando vuole farsi trovare. Hai qualche proposta per rendere facile e indolore la cosa?  No. A parte google latitude ci sono svariate app equivalenti. L'ideale e' sceglierne una gratuita per tutte le piattaforme. Pensi che ci siano altri servizi analoghi e adatti a questo scopo?
Io ricordo che per il mio Nokia symbian ne ho trovati almeno un paio di altri tempo fa. |
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X chi di noi ha uno smartphone con internet sempre attivo possiamo usare servizi gratuiti tipo google latitude per localizzarci 24/7.
La cosa sarebbe utile per eventuali appuntamenti di business, tipo cambio euro/BTC faccia a faccia.
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The first sustainable micronation will have to float, and have to have great connectivity.
Recently I heard that the PirateBay was thinking to launch drones to use as pirate satellites or s/t like that. Maybe they could support our floating micronation with connectivity if we take them aboard. |
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I think the way would be leading by examples instead than 'splaining what BTC are and are not.
Trying to launch some micro BTC startups there, even in the underground economy seems to me the way to go.
Maybe launching a service to facilitate capital flight?
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I find this idea promising if applied in some ideally still relatively undeveloped tourism destination, like Cambodia, or even developed, if well managed and low taxed. You could even finance a B&B or s/t like that in the same way. With tourists you lower the risk and get higher returns.
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I will do pre-IPO sales at .99 BTC for large orders if anyone wants in.
I'm interested in the Pre-IPO@.99. How can I get in? There is a minimum to invest? BTW: I have about 270 TYGRR-BANK bonds that I would like to swap with TYGRR-P bonds if possible. |
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Interesting theory from infowars: Quote: Now the trap is closing. The calls by the bought-and-paid-for media for a “real” super state are growing stronger. Alternatively, it is said there will be chaos, panic, bank-runs, devaluations, starvation and anarchy. This is the dialectic as the elites wish to frame it. But it is a false one. There will likely be chaos no matter what. It is the preferred tool. If Greece leaves the EU, then the resultant financial and banking ruin shall be used as justification for further centralizations of power within the EU and IMF. If Greece remains in the Union, the chaos that results will also be used as a methodology of centralization. Either way, the powers-that-be plan to use chaos to consolidate more power for world government.... http://www.infowars.com/end-game-as-elite-trap-closes-economic-chaos-or-eu-super-state/ |
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Let's just buy an old ship. Much cheaper, more convenient, suitable to many different biz at once, and infinitely more amusing.  Pirate Ship Black Raven by Mr. T in DC, on Flickr |
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At least please indicate the Greenwich time.
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refund + interest received.
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According the polls still 75% of them just want keep the euro-debt-bubble inflating.
That's amazing if true... Gawd I hope it all collapses so the world may return to sanity. [/quote] According to my sources, 95% of people want the big corrupt banks to roll over and die. [/quote] Real news reports that 3 out of 4 Greeks want the ECB printing more to keep the ponzi going, and no austerity. Talking 'bout spoiled brats: Greek Opinion Poll Shows 78% Want Greece to Remain in Euro Area http://www.moneynews.com/Economy/Greek-Opinion-Poll-euro/2012/05/13/id/438880 |
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You're such a troll, but I'll bite anyway.
1) Doesn't Goldman Sachs deserve an honorary mention in your blag for their disgusting role as a predatory lender? Guess not.
2) The Greeks might be pathetic, maybe even brainwashed, but by-and-large the Euro zone is relatively self-sufficient. Whatever money-printing they do doesn't get foisted upon anyone else. America on the other hand, has been sucking off the rest of the entire world's teat for decades, courtesy of the dollar's mysterious "reserve currency" status. I wonder how that happened? Why don't you target some vitriol at them instead?
3) I'm sure there's some kind of long-term treatment programme available for your xenophobia.
1) Goldman Sachs has been instrumental in faking the Greek accounting to allow its euro entry. Everybody knew at the time like now that Greece like the rest of the PIIGS cooked their books to enter the Maastricht treaty. Biggest responsibilities are to be found in the political eurocrats since day 1 who wanted a so doomed bureaucratic monster coupled with a so dysfunctional fiat money-debt. 2) Self-sufficient maybe. Apart from energy I fear. Of course I do not doubt that USofA is not less corrupted at all levels, nor less doomed in the medium term. They will end at once with the world reserve currency status of the dollar. But the thread is about Greece and euro. 3) LOL. I am a mediterranean PIIG citizen. I despise my fellows since I use to know them quite well. They, their utter corruption, their lack of courage, independence, imagination, their abject dependence from the state power, etc. etc. etc. |
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Greeks, like the rest of the PIIGS sheeple are pathetic brainwashed spoiled brats europinkos: they just want infinite bailouts so that everybody can suck from the ultra-corrupted state tit, and now they are lost when the bill is due and they cannot even imagine a way out of state's and fiat money's dependence. According the polls still 75% of them just want keep the euro-debt-bubble inflating. They cannot even imagine independence, freedom and self-sufficiency. Speaking 'bout the lowest grade of humanity. Disgusting voluntary slaves. http://webabuser.blogspot.it/2012/05/greeks-going-to-new-elections-since.html |
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