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2521  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is The Lightning Network ? on: April 30, 2016, 02:42:52 PM
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Transactions for the Future

Instant Payments. Lightning-fast blockchain payments without worrying about block confirmation times. Security is enforced by blockchain smart-contracts without creating a on-blockchain transaction for individual payments. Payment speed measured in milliseconds to seconds.

Scalability. Capable of millions to billions of transactions per second across the network. Capacity blows away legacy payment rails by many orders of magnitude. Attaching payment per action/click is now possible without custodians.

Low Cost. By transacting and settling off-blockchain, the Lightning Network allows for exceptionally low fees, which allows for emerging use cases such as instant micropayments.

Cross Blockchains. Cross-chain atomic swaps can occur off-chain instantly with heterogeneous blockchain consensus rules. So long as the chains can support the same cryptographic hash function, it is possible to make transactions across blockchains without trust in 3rd party custodians.
this is should be a great future of transaction,i wish this transaction more faster and really low cost,i really apreciated for the creator or founder of this network,is the founder Joseph Poon and Thaddeus Dryja?
2522  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: fud being spread regarding bit coin on: April 30, 2016, 02:09:41 PM
You should not be surprised at all by this. It seems like you do miss quite a lot. If you take a closer look at the speculation section, you will notice a spam-post every once in a while from a new account. This has been going on for months.

Larry summer can't control the blockchain neither can the DCG.
All they can do is control their own version of a centralized-blockchain. Other than that, they can't control anything.
of course,however its have a limit,but also have small chance to control other with that version,lets see what will happen and how peoples response of their project
2523  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Western Union Invests in Digital Currency Group on: April 30, 2016, 01:20:56 PM
Western Union, whose business model of money transfer could be under threat from bitcoin, is one of the new investors in Digital Currency Group (DCG). DCG is an investment firm focusing on the bitcoin blockchain technology space.

Could this herald changing times?
About Digital Currency Group

Digital Currency Group was set up in October 2015 to focus on investments in the nascent bitcoin and blockchain technology space. Its portfolio of investments includes 70 companies across 22 countries.

It has 3 subsidiaries – Genesis, Grayscale and CoinDesk. The CEO and Founder of DCG is Barry Silbert, who had earlier founded SecondMarket.

The amount invested by Western Union in DCG has not been disclosed.

Full read: http://cointelegraph.com/news/western-union-invests-in-digital-currency-group

Hahaha I can't stop laughing at.
its funny but good moving from western union,might they bored to got compared with bitcoin,and of course its make they are want to know more about crypto currency,but honestly i dont too much trusted this media.
2524  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Russian Law Would Send Bitcoin Users to Jail as Cybercriminals on: April 30, 2016, 01:15:00 PM
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-04-28/russian-law-would-send-bitcoin-users-to-jail-as-cybercriminals

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Russia is planning to punish users of cryptocurrencies such as bitcoin, saying anonymous, difficult to trace transactions help kidnappers and money launderers.

The Finance Ministry in Moscow plans to submit legislation next month that would punish those who use digital currencies with fines as high as 2.5 million rubles ($38,000) and jail sentences of up to seven years. As opponents criticize such regulations as futile in the face of the growing popularity of bitcoin, Russia joins countries including Bolivia, Iceland and Vietnam in taking steps to criminalize it.

“Bitcoin can be used to finance the shadow economy and crimes, and this risk we cannot allow in the Russia’s financial system, which we are striving to make transparent and healthy,” the press service of the central bank said in an e-mail.
bad plan,its really bad,not just bad for russian bitcoiner and bitcoiner all around the world,but its bad for russia its elf,that plan will make people have negative think about russia,and sure some people more hate that country.
2525  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Rare address hall of fame on: April 30, 2016, 01:12:51 PM
i have generated bitcoin vanity address with my name in front,its still free,and i just receive on my email,the address and private keys,but i never use my blockchain wallet anymore,is this also can use on coinbase??
This rings alarm bells! Did you use bitcoinvanitygenDOTcom? Do not trust them! Do not use that address!
See bitcoin stolen from the address generated by bitcoinvanitygenDOTcom or just Google: they have been reported to keep your private key and steal your money.
Your name is short, get a part private key and I (or many other users here) are willing to help you get 1yenxz in a secure way.
It you got it from a trusted source, ignore my concern.
shit,its really happen?i wish people not use that site anymore,i dont want see more post about losing bicoin because hacked or lost by it self,its make me sad for them.
2526  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: It is time to declare war on Overclock.net on: April 30, 2016, 12:03:25 PM


As a tech site, overclock.net covered the news of Steam accepting Bitcoin.  

A college professor of economics attempted to crash the party by saying he's a teacher and that only things like fiat can have value (and later hinted gold *might* have some type of value):

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I teach economics.. fiat currency is backed by the country and/or central bank issuing the currency. I literally said that in my post.


This is me 5 minutes ago, I had a student take it since you guys are such keyboard warriors what are your credentials in economics and finance?

As you can guess, there were a few poor attempts to debate him on the subject until I put up the establishment destroying post that follows:

http://pastebin.com/zepT5XCx

The post was completely ignored by the economics professor, as he instead began replying to softball comments that were the equivalent of "why is gold yellow?".  The post, the only one in the thread that puts up any real fight against him is then mysteriously deleted out of the blue with no explanation less than 12 hours later by overclock.net forum moderators.  Establishment economics professor wins!


Post in question below:

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Your understanding of money is honestly child-like. I talk to PhD economists all the time (that can't forecast their way out of a paper bag), so please, don't even try to intimidate me with claims of being a teacher. First of all, money is an abstract concept. It's an IOU to provide a good or service at a future date. This means all money is inherently debt based with pyramid and Ponzi elements to it, because at any given time, I can just boycott your currency in lieu of another one, or your govt backing it can just go south. Now you're left holding the bag, the trademark "unsustainable" element of any type of scam.

Get it through your head. Repeat after me. Anything used as currency on the planet is inherently an unsustainable scam. The only example which isn't one is completely theoretical. It's the form of currency used by the robots in the transformers cartoon called "energon". Blocks of pure energy that can be redeemed at face value at any time regardless of externalities.

The overwhelming majority of the price of gold is derived from network effect, not intrinsic value. It's so called "instrinsic value" is next to nothing in comparison. Not that intrinsic value really even exists in the first place. But just in this case, we'll pretend it does. The gap between the two values is so large for gold, if you believe the price of gold is only derived from "intrinsic value", you would literally be scamming people in the process of selling it at spot price, ripping them off for 10x or more than they should be paying. But they aren't paying for intrinsic value, they're paying for network effect, which lies somewhere between a mass delusion of conformity, to an economic motive to avoid slippage that creates a captive audience.

As for gold, every gold backed currency has failed because it's no different than fiat when used in that manner. The currency is just devalued as usual until one dollar is worth one atom of gold. The only way gold has any use is being circulated with the native coins in an economy. The only problem there is, gold has awful granularity, high friction in use, and counterparty risk, unless you plan to build your own gold vault and guard it yourself all day.

Gold has continuously failed as a currency due to these reasons. It can't be used natively in anything but a stone age economy, so they had to put it in vaults and issue IOUs, rendering it's existence pointless. It's one saving grace is a reorginzation of the financial structure after the bankers go bad, scam everyone, then the angry villagers kill them and find out just how much gold is really left.

As stated earlier, both gold and Bitcoin offer an economic Nash equilibrium for trade between individuals or nations since they can both be acquired on generally all continents (bitcoin is an open entropy system) and nobody really has a monopoly on them. The difference is, gold just doesn't work in a modern civilization while Bitcoin does. If you believe the economy will crash and send us back to the dark ages, buy gold. If you think there will be some kind of civilization left standing, buy Bitcoin. Or just buy both to hedge.
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An overclocking forum devoted to maximizing the performance of graphics cards, CPUs, motherboards, RAM and everything else found inside your computer
i never hear about this before,but when i googling,i just found this,can you guys tell me about what happen excatly here?
and is that wite related with bitcoin?
2527  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is dead again. This time for sure. on: April 30, 2016, 11:55:11 AM
Large groups of well paid, organized, funded professionals with clear objectives and good management - (like R3, hyperledger, ethereum, others) are sure making those Core programmers look like the silly little whiny bitches that they are.  Core is going NOWHERE and getting there pretty damn fast.  Meanwhile, very sophisticated advance is being done every day in other part of crypto/blockchain. 

This is 100% the end of bitcoin as we know it.  Good thing too.  This 'open source', 'no leadership', 'no organization' thing was always a load of bullshit.
i am not sure if that will causing bitcoin dead,since from bitcoin founded,it has been have so many project like bitcoin and maybe better than bitcoin,but we know its not make bitcoin lefted and dead.
2528  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: This just in: Roger Ver can't even transact bitcoin properly on: April 30, 2016, 11:48:09 AM
https://twitter.com/rogerkver/status/726169695880134660/photo/1

Roger Ver posted a censored image of a blockchain.info screenshot of what he claims to be a transaction of his, complaining about the block size and how his transaction can't confirm. Not only did he try to censor information of that transaction for privacy after having it relayed to hundreds of nodes, but he also overlooks the fact that he tried to spend an unconfirmed input (and didn't didn't even add proper high priority fees) before complaining about the block size. Bigger blocks won't solve incompetence.

Archive
its hard to believe if this really true,roger ver ever called as bitcoin jesus,and he bitcoin investor with so much money invested,but its silly if he can transact bitcoin properly..noob Cheesy
2529  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: This is why you enable 2FA. on: April 30, 2016, 11:39:27 AM
So I have Kaspersky and have a relatively secure machine. My mate used my machine and I think must have somehow got a virus on it. Well my facebook and paypal both begun SMSing me confirmation codes of login attempts. It had pretty much compromised most passwords that had been entered since, including what is on BTC exhanges, all of which I have 2FA enabled. All my held coins are in coinbase multisig vaults or my trezor wallet and are safe.

If you have not yet done so, please enable 2FA. I hear plenty of horror stories. Total in all my wallets (coinbase, 5 BTC), trezor (3 BTC), LTC (68) on exchange, 1 BTC on exchange as well.

we are talking over £3000 in total which to me is an insane amount of money, I bought most of my coins over a lot of time. The only coins I have 'mined' are ETH to BTC recently, some of that was what was in the hot bitcoin-QT wallet, the rest I mined through ETH (totalling 2 BTC) has been moved/converted to LTC some of it. I prefer to buy as I stand a better chance of profiting, and just solo mine with small rigs for luck, profiting is difficult otherwise.

All of this was safe due to a combination of safe private keys and in the case of coinbase 2FA is needed for the vaults anyway, and 2FA for the exchanges.

If you havn't yet enabled it, ****ing do it!

The only coins which were 'unsafe' but not touched was 0.25 BTC in my hot bitcoin QT wallet, just reformatted and restored wallet.dat, hadn't used this in a while to sign transactions, wallet was encrypted, although if you use it a virus can just swipe your private keys the moment you decrypt.


I am careful with computer security (everything i use with 2FA has it enabled, but it got me.

Enable it!

Plus, maybe also keep coins in separate wallets too, I have heard people having large amounts stolen from a single wallet, hence my diversity.

Even consider a hardware wallet, it might just save your skin too.
sad story,again and again peoples reported about losing their assets because hacker or other,and yes i'm agree we should enable 2FA,but i'm also think its dont need for me and other people who just have little bitcoin or other assets Grin
2530  Economy / Securities / Re: Mycelium Crowdsale , Are you investing ? on: April 30, 2016, 11:34:57 AM
It's going to start soon : https://wallet.mycelium.com/early-bird-registration.html
Here is the basic terms : https://wallet.mycelium.com/elements/licenses.html or :

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You get the share of Mycelium and the right to receive money whenever Mycelium gets more expensive. Let's suppose that this time, with this crowdsale, it will be valued at 100 million USD. Imagine that when we sell another portion one year later it will be valued at 1 billion USD. So you will get 900 million USD multiplied by your portion (if you are the owner of 5% you will get 5% of 900 million = 45 million). Your initial investment stays with you: you keep owning this right and it is non-dilutable. The next 20% we sell will be dilutable.



Your portion is how much you invest divided by how much all participants invest altogether (during this round). And multiplied by 5% (that is the total share being sold). You guys all together will get 5%. No matter what.



This round of the crowdsale is the first one in Mycelium's history. The round is open from May 1st to May 18th. You can register early until May 1st and get a 10% discount (you pay 1BTC, we calculate it as 1.1BTC).


You are free to resell, gift, pledge your rights the way you want. In about a month you will be able to control your share of Mycelium right in Mycelium Wallet.


‘Mycelium’ refers to the Mycelium Wallet project alone. We are not selling our other projects now. The legal form is called 'Stocks Appreciating Rights'. You can keep those SARs in the form of Mycelium Tokens or potentially convert them later into class B shares of Mycelium SIA (this will require de-anonymisation of the Mycelium Token owner).


To make the rights secure and convenient, we created them in the form of digital blockchain based tokens (colored coins issued using the Colu.co protocol over regular Bitcoin blockchain). Each token incorporates the information about the contract terms.


Token owners can either sell them on the open market at any moment or redeem to us if conditions are met. The latter can be done in a number of events such as an IPO and issuance of new shares; a capital increase; a sale, merger, or acquisition of the entire company. Or you can later convert SARs to class B shares and receive dividends or sell shares.


The offer refers to the Mycelium Wallet project only. There will be no refunds. Token is not a security, is not listed, authorized, issued or traded on any regulated market. We do not guarantee that the value of tokens will increase. 


It seems very interesting honestly , anyone of you planning to invest maybe ? personally I'm not sure how those things works so I'm not really sure If I should or not . It's open discussion so yeah .. Let's hear your thoughts;


No i dont interest to invest now,but i wonder what really they (mycelium) to open this project to everyone?is they really need funds and want to share profit?
2531  Economy / Economics / Re: Why do you buy Bitcoins? on: April 28, 2016, 03:41:22 PM
Hoping that price will be higher in future and I can make good money from it that is the reason I am engaging myself in buying bitcoin at a moment.
common reason,and its not happen to me,i'm not buying bitcoin for that purpose,because i'm not sure bitcoin price will keep raising,just wait until right time when i really know that bitcoin price will to the moon.
2532  Economy / Economics / Re: How many Bitcoin do you have saved? on: April 28, 2016, 03:39:40 PM
Just recently got into BTC; I have 2.5 saved up.
Plan on taking 25% of each of my paychecks and accumulating and seeing what will happen in 2017 or later in the year.

Thoughts? Ideas? Speculation? Advice? Tips?

 Huh
not bad,and its big amount for me,but i think its not a good plan to save that amount,you better to invest a half or more,i see bitcoin price falling down in two days.
2533  Economy / Economics / Re: If bitcoin price is $10.000, will fiat be worthless? on: April 28, 2016, 03:32:27 PM
Fiat will never worthless but if bitcoin reach $10000 and get adopted by major merchants then it will become a global currency and a alternate to fiat that is easy to take anywhere but replacing fiat is impossible.
yeah i'm also think like that,fiat will always lead the currency in this world,no matter how high bitcoin price,fiat will not worthless.
the only thing make fiat worthles is world war,its when we are dont need money anymore.
2534  Economy / Economics / Re: How to teach kids about Bitcoin? on: April 28, 2016, 03:29:24 PM
If you want to kill childhood for your kins you can teach them but i think it's not for kids, let them live free and when they grow you will teach them, that's what i am thinking about it.
yes i'm with you,kids should not know bitcoin,they just playing with any tablet and other toys,its not right time for them to knowing about bitcoin,and too early for know about everythingrelated money.
2535  Other / Off-topic / Re: How to tell your Girlfirend about BitcoiN?? on: April 28, 2016, 03:28:02 PM
Like in the Topic said.

How would u guys explain Bitcoin to your Girlfriend!

cheers
little bit hard,my ex girlfriend not respon so good with my explanation,i tell she about bitcoin when we still in relationship,bitcoin is virtual moeny can can be traded,she just knowing and not interesting  Huh
2536  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Racism is a real thing (this thread is extremely racist) on: April 28, 2016, 03:20:44 PM
I agree. Rather than denying or putting under the carpet, lets discuss this issue in a great death. Racism is an evil which needs to be exposed in every possible manner.

Racism is for people without brain honestly, i think normal people don't care about it and important is witch are you inside and doesnt matter what color of your skin.
i'm not support any shape of racism,but i just think that people with different skin or culture always have little hates each others,honestly i'm little bit not comfort if near with black skin people,but i never showing it.
2537  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Saudia Arabia helped 9/11 hijackers on: April 28, 2016, 03:16:34 PM
Why are these guys considered allies of the US?  They sell us oil?


Obama Reveals Why Terror Victims Can’t Sue Saudi Arabia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZXq9w5CCmw

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President Obama was asked to discuss a bill that passed the Senate committee earlier this year that would allow the family members of individuals who were killed in terrorist attacks sponsored by foreign governments, to then sue those foreign governments.  Currently you are not allowed to do that.  This bill aims to change that and here is what Barack Obama thinks about it:

And what about this legislation in the congress that allow families to sue the Saudi government and other governments and different circumstances.

Obama: Exactly.  I'm opposed because of that second clause in your sentence, and that is, this is not just a bilateral US-saudi issue this is a matter of how generally the United States approaches our interactions with other countries.  If we open up the possibility that individuals in the United States can routinely start suing other governments, then we are also opening of the United States to being continually sued by individuals in other countries.  And that would be a bad precedent, because we're the largest superpower in the world, and we are everywhere, and we are in people's business all the time.  And if we are in a situation where we're suddenly being hauled into various courts, because of the claim that in some individuals been harmed, then that will tie us up and it could harm you US servicemen US diplomats

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I think a family member of someone who died in 9/11, when they believe that there is good evidence that the Saudi's sponsored it.  Now we don't necessarily have access to that evidence because it has been redacted in the 9/11 Commission Report, which we're going to have video for you on that in just a second.  But we know from former US Senator Bob Graham was seen the pages as intelligence committee chair the pages that we don't have access to, he told 60 minutes that he believes the Saudi government did help the 9/11 hijackers, and so if that were the case not being able to get any sort of at least legal justice would be incredibly frustrating I would imagine what it does open up the door to a lot of other sorts of lawsuits if if or families and we had we lost three thousand people in 9/11
i never hear about this,if this true,so why country like indonesia who have so many resources and oil,not free from hijackers,its can be some weird fact if this true.
2538  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Killing of a Western Hostage in the Philippines on: April 28, 2016, 02:35:52 PM
One of four hostages abducted in the Philippines last September has been killed hours after a Monday deadline for a $6.5 million ransom expired.  
The al-Qaeda-linked Abu Sayyaf group kidnapped four people from a resort on Samal Island in September 2015. The hostages—John Ridsdel and Robert Hall, both Canadian; Marites Flor, a Filipina; and Kjartan Sekkingstad, a Norwegian––all had appeared in a video asking their governments to secure their release. Earlier Monday, Abu Sayyaf demanded a $6.5 million ransom and threatened to behead a hostage if the money wasn’t delivered by 3 p.m. When that deadline passed, a severed head was dropped into the town center in Jolo. Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau confirmed that Ridsdel had been killed. Filipino authorities have not officially identified the victim. Reuters reported:
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“We are being very careful, we can't say whose head it was,” army spokesman Major Felimon Tan told reporters, adding that tests would be carried out to identify the victim.

Residents found the head in the center of Jolo town. Tan said two men on a motorcycle were seen dropping a plastic bag containing the severed head.

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/04/philippines-abu-sayyaf/479787/
yes i see on tv news,its bad news for some country who have any victim on abu sayyaf kidnapped,and some of the are indonesian,and when hear about australian killied by abu sayyaf group,family from indonesian victim so sad and more worry about their husband and dad.
2539  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Al Qaeda branch in Bitcointalk. on: April 28, 2016, 02:33:56 PM
Here i found the perfect spokesman of Al Qaedah - mr. magnific61

Who talk with him, please, remember, he is not a muslim, but sectant
of this anti Quran ideology:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salafist_Jihadism

The song of affected jihadi lunatics is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1M8pDhNGso


this is whould be a warn for us,that jihadis is everywhere,and can do anything in here,so we must be carefull if we talk with people like them,we dont want they do some wash brain here.
2540  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What's your opinion of gun control? on: April 28, 2016, 10:50:49 AM


Guns are made for one purpose, and that purpose is to kill.
I believe that guns are not weapons, they are tools. How they are used is up to the person holding it.
Guns are especially dangerous in the hands of people who don't know how to use them (i.e., kids and teenagers) as well as those who are mentally ill and/or have a temper problem.
Gun control will not stop violence because a violent person doesn’t need a gun to be violent.
After the Sandy Hook Elementary shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, support for gun control increased dramatically.

Generally in America, the support for gun control has outweighed the support for gun rights.
Are gun control laws constitutional?
What would be your ideal set of laws regarding firearms?



i think,gun control is good for us,for people who dont need any self protection,because there was so many police and we can call them easy as we call our family,and in my opinion,why must be have a gun if we have create good security in our home. and i think gun control will pretect people from wrong use of that gun.
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