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2521  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Canelo vs Golovkin 3 - September 17 on: August 01, 2022, 07:54:06 PM
The fight against GGG is in fact an effort to recover some of the reputation he lost against Bivol, if he happened to lose again then not only this will be a short term hit against his reputation but also a long term one, as this would mean an old GGG could beat him when his better days are behind him.

The trilogy has nothing to do with Canelo's recovering his reputation or what because he loses to Bivol.

That trilogy match was already arranged even prior to the fight of GGG vs Murata and Canelo vs Bivol. In other words, it's already set in stone regardless of the result of their respective match on which GGG won against Murata but Canelo loses to Bivol.

Yes, Canelo Alvarez is a bit out of choice for this trilogy because he cannot have a chance to fight Dmitrii Bivol for a title fight in light-heavy if he won't agree to fight Golovkin afterwards. I'd say that this upcoming fight is the perfect gift for Golovkin because he received this news on the month of his birthday and I imagined that he was certainly happy about this as he asked for a trilogy for years already.

Though this fight might be late already because their trilogy was first proposed last 2019 when GGG is much younger but Canelo declined and made a statement that a trilogy won't be needed because it was evident that he won the first and second fight even if the 1st resulted to a draw. But, this will be still an exciting match to see aside from the fact that this might be Golovkin's last professional fight.
2522  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Discussion] Should Gambling be Banned? on: August 01, 2022, 07:29:47 PM
From what I've seen of you, as a cryptocurrency gambler you yourself have managed it well and you as a player on any gambling platform even in your gambling past have lost a lot of money as well. and maybe also because of your experience you saw the pros and cons here and that's why that pushed you to share it here in the forum that's why you made this kind of topic, and it's a good decision you made in this matter in honestly. Thanks a lot.

besides that, for me, gambling in other countries may be illegal and for others it is legal and whatever their reason is, they definitely have a good reason for it, and for me the influence of gambling is bad but I hope not led to the banning of this type of industry.
I think sometime we are not even gambling but we lose money and we are in problem and the trouble comes uninvited.
I believe if there is one thing one should keep oneself away from - that is scam and fraud and bad intention.

You have a point but that doesn't mean that we should still gamble because of the fact of we are still losing money even if we don't participate in these activities as there are other factors aside from that.
We must still have the correct mindset to only participate in the said activity when we are searching for entertainment or means to ease blow up some steam in our lives, it is still best to know if we can afford to lose some funds or not.

As for the OP's concern about whether gambling should be banned or not, I stand to allow these activities to continue because the government could highly the revenue that this industry could produce.
2523  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Crawford vs Spence on: August 01, 2022, 06:33:35 PM
Yeah, so far it's very hard to really see where this is going. On the other hand, others are very excited, including myself to hear at least a very encouraging news from the head of showtime boxing.

On the other hand, if the fight is at a standstill and no one is willing to give an inch as far as money is concern, then this might never happen. Not sure what will be the best option for Crawford at this point since PBC has the most number of 147 lbs.

In order for this fight to take place, third-party investments (sponsorship) are needed. 

Premier Boxing Champions are ready to organize this fight.  At the same time, they guarantee that everything will be organized at the highest level. 

However, they do not have a business model that guarantees profit and return on investment.  This is due to massive copyright infringement and the organization of illegal broadcasts of boxing matches.  So sponsorship is needed.  Otherwise, this fight may not take place. 

At the same time, we are all looking forward to it and hope that it will still take place!

Every promoter will try their way to win the promotion as it will guarantee them a profit. It's a big fight, it could sell a millions of dollars in gate entrance and PPV, so I don't think a 3rd party would be a problem. Spence and Crawford needs to agree with the sharing and this will be realize easily.

I get what you are saying but I don't think that sponsorship is their main struggle to make the fight happen nor why it takes too long for them to strike a deal because Crawford is working alongside Mayweather who has his own promotions and Spence has PBC too.

As far as the sharing of purses is concerned, the best guess is that Crawford understands that he has no power to demand the greater cut because he ain't have the most food on the table. My opinion about this matter is that Spence is really taking his time to drag the fight more, he wanted this to happen but he thinks that it is yet not the right time.
2524  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: August 01, 2022, 05:55:15 PM
90's basketball is very physical, now it has evolved because a team who have great 3-point shooters will likely win the championship.

That is because the game is evolving each year and with each decade that has passed the coaches and players are adapting to it. Also, if the players nowadays play like in the 80s or 90s era, I reckon they won't be that effective anymore because the coaches and players these days already knows how to counter the plays in that era.
2525  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing: Haney vs Kambosos II (Undisputed) on: August 01, 2022, 05:30:12 PM
I'm confused about who to vote for, of course I don't want to give wishful thinking and Haney is really the favorite for the upcoming fight, but it's obvious that Kambosos understands this and his team will make really effective changes during the preparation for the fight.

You still have plenty of time to weigh some things if you decide on whom to bet as this fight was proposed to happen on October 15 in Melbourne, Australia. But as per votes, it's been expected that Haney will be the favorite and as you see in the poll in this discussion, it's been voted by the most that Haney is expected to win by a decision again but the odds are not that pretty though.

Kambosos will surely make some changes prior to this fight but it's already understood that Haney's camp will do the same way too, honestly, I can't see that Kambosos will win this time or will make some difference.
2526  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Teofimo Lopez vs Pedro Campa - Aug 13 on: July 31, 2022, 11:32:58 AM
I have added a poll for you guys to vote on this fight.

I'm the first voter and I voted Lopez to win by TKO/KO he needs to be impressive because he is coming from an embarrassing loss and he is in a much higher weight category, this fight although looks like a cherry-picked is still a dangerous fight for Teofimo

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Although this is not as huge as Lopez's other fight, this is going to be an intriguing match because as you guys have said, this is Lopez's first test in this new weight division. And he could give a impressive showing here, then give it as a signal that he is back and then will go to "Takeover" this division.

He is still the takeover that we all know, its just mismanagement and out of focus, and because of his medical condition, now that he is healthier and he got his old trainer back, he will be back in business after this fight, Lopes will take over this match I just hope its as impressive just like all his other wins.

If he wins this fight, then maybe the old takeover is back, and for sure he is going to declare that after the fight. But his lost on Kambosos was not about mismanagement, he said in the interview that he has pressures on the Kambosos fight.

And hopefully though, he is 100% healthy now, no more of that injuries he suffered because of the negative effects of Covid-19 on his body. I agree, he should win this impressively.

We have to expect that because Lopez is a promising boxing star, it's just that sometimes he loses his focus, but he is back, trying to build his name again and in a new division trying to challenge the champion and beat him. No more excuses from him, he cannot use that old excuse, he has to win this fight, or else his popularity will disappear.
2527  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: July 31, 2022, 10:26:09 AM

The conflict between players is common, but the conflict between players and management, that's very rare.

Yes, but it's happening already, the conflict is usually between the management and the superstar of the team because a superstar knows his value, if he will leave or gets traded, the knows that other teams are willing to accept him. Take it for instance, what if Curry will ask for a trade, for sure teams will be hoping that they can get him as currently he is the best player in the NBA.

I think it's common amongst great organization, even the Bulls during their second championship run, Jordan and Pippen has issues with Bulls general manager, Jerry Krause. And yet they were able to make a second 3peat. Didn't request for a trade because it's almost non-existent that time. But now we have cases like the Ben Simmons and Kyrie Irving drama, and then Durant requesting a trade. If Curry or Green do the same, then the Warriors will break apart. And that's how dynasty's are broken. Sooner or later there will be issues that the management and players disagree.

I hope the management will listen to their players, the big 3 made the team successful, even before Durant joined the Warriors, they are already a championship team and have won championships already. Good thing Curry was playing like a real MVP and he was able to carry this team to win another championship, without either Klay or Green, for sure Curry will not be able to achieve that success.
2528  Economy / Gambling / Re: Duelbits.com | Casino & Sportsbook | Earn up to 50% rakeback | VIP | on: July 31, 2022, 08:08:42 AM
Hey Duelbits.com, is there any maintenance happening on the sportsbook side? I can access the website without a problem, but the moment I will click "Sports", the data would not load. Does anyone here have the same issue?
2529  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: July 31, 2022, 07:43:58 AM
On other game, I was surprised and stunned by NLEX performance last game. Even there are rumors that Magnolia just give way for another ticket sales the next game lol we see that NLEX really did their best. I just don't know if the same playing level will be shown by them in their do-or-die game.
If the rumors are true, then that's what we called game fixing, it should be investigated.

Well, if they really try to fix the game to prolong it, then it's not possible that they will again fix the game this time. The spread is high, I like that, and I believe that Magnolia is really the better team, they will win this game and will cover the spread. Good luck!

Same here, I believe they will cover the spread, it's still -6.5, so they have to win as they did in game 1 in order to cover this high spread. It will be a bounce back by the Magnolia, they are worthy to be a champion, so they better show up here and win the game impressively.

We are all united that we are betting on Magnolia -6.5, I hope it's not a trap because the spread is high and it could easily be covered by NLEX even if Magnolia will win. If you will ask me, the spread of the Ginebra is more like a trap than the spread of Magnolia, but who am I to know, we can only conclude if we see the outcome of the game.
2530  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: July 31, 2022, 06:19:54 AM
One thing Green has on his side is that he's part of the "Big 3" in the Warriors organization.  Stephen Curry has already come out and basically said that if they want to keep him happy, they'll resign Draymond to the max. 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/nba-rumors-warriors-could-create-a-huge-rift-with-stephen-curry-over-draymond-green-s-situation/ar-AA10826E?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=9039e762dead4e93874088df74505872

I think it's pretty clear Draymond is not a max player.  He might be extremely valuable to the Warriors given how his skillset is utilized, but he's on the downhill slide of his career and it's obvious.  He's become a liability as a shooter, and he's not getting any quicker.  I think the Warriors would actually be wise to let him go and develop Wiseman more, but I can't imagine the Warriors management doing anything that would make Curry upset.  It's likely that they'll look at any additional money they have to pay Draymond as a fee to keep Curry happy.
That one may best describe what is happening.
Keep Curry happy and we might make another championship. But this will mean a lot of money coming out of their pockets and it also means tons of luxury tax waiting for them.
I may be impressed with the patience of Draymond to let the play work out before passing the ball, but in terms of the Warriors being cornered, he cannot do anything when the ball is still in his hand.
Let's see what Wiseman will bring when he comes back to the NBA floor, maybe that will change the perspective of their management after a year or a couple. That could be the reason why Green is looking for a longer contract, a threat is coming.  Cheesy

If they will not grant Green's request to get a max salary and that will create a conflict between Curry and the organization, I think that's not good. Although Draymond is not a superstar but the Warriors are playing like a team, the big 3 is very significant for their success, so it's best to keep that intact than adding players which might not help if Draymond would not pay well because he was disappointed.

So what would happen, is Curry trying to threaten the organization that there could be a conflict if they will not give Draymond's demand? I think the organization knows what they are doing, though in a team we have some superstars who are just working for the team, they are paid by the management and they have to respect the decision of the management.

The conflict between players is common, but the conflict between players and management, that's very rare.
2531  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: July 31, 2022, 05:49:06 AM
Of course, we know what Ginebra is capable of, and that's what they did in game 2. And for sure majority here doesn't see that they are going to be eliminated. But they rise to the occasion again. So they will be the favorite in game 3 with the ML or even a handicap is not that bad to bet on them. And this is going to be another close game but maybe Ginebra has still something with them and win the decider.

But believed me, some of Ginebra fans are worried on that game. Meralco is keeping with the phase with Ginebra the whole game and there are lots of exchange leads. It's just that they fell short but overall, their game against Ginebra is a close one. This is a good series so far where both teams are almost equal and it now depends on players if they will have a bad night or not.
This is the last game between the two, the arena will be full because it's Sunday and they are in the 2nd game.
I'm not sure if Ginebra will cover the spread but I believe they have a very good chance of winning.

On other game, I was surprised and stunned by NLEX performance last game. Even there are rumors that Magnolia just give way for another ticket sales the next game lol we see that NLEX really did their best. I just don't know if the same playing level will be shown by them in their do-or-die game.
If the rumors are true, then that's what we called game fixing, it should be investigated.
2532  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Will these coins achieve goals I set? on: July 30, 2022, 06:55:45 AM
Surely these predictions can be true but how much time it will take? Even for that, I think ETH and BNB are my choices Roll Eyes

I'm not sure about the other coins on the list but if those are legit and have a hard-working developers, then they will grow together as the crypto market will grow. Yes, ETH and BNB, are great investments and they are major altcoins, so as bitcoin will probably reach a new ATH which could be $100k, then most likely the amount you predicted will happen.

Or, BNB could be the king of altcoins, and will replace ETH in the future but both will still be successful.
2533  Local / Pamilihan / Re: Coins.ph suspended my account without valid reason on: July 30, 2022, 06:32:01 AM
Do you mean to say converted into peso? if that's what you meant, then there's a way to cash it out through Binance, just use the p2p service, you can cash out to your bank account or the most popular which is GCASH.

Yes! I appreciate your reply- will definitely check out Binance. Pero dito, need ba mag pass ng KYC documents like kung ano din yung mga hiningi ni coins.ph para makapag convert from BTCs to cash (GCASH)?


Basic documents lang naman kailangan, parang level 1 verification lang, IIRC, sa Binance, ID ko lang sinubmit ko tapos ayun verifiied na. Sa Gcash naman, kailangan lang din verified ang GCASH mo para mag match sa name ng account mo sa Binance. Tapos tingin ka nalang ng tutorial sa youtube, madali lang naman.
2534  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Mayweather Vs McGregor: Info and prediction thread on: July 30, 2022, 05:00:46 AM
It pains me to bump this thread again...  It really does...  I read an article today though that says McGregor and Mayweather are currently in talks to do a repeat of their last fight.  Supposedly they're arguing now over what the rules would be.  Dana White recently said that he wouldn't sign off that fight, but money talks and I'm sure he says that every time he would have to go into a negotiation like that.  It sounds like a fight is making progress though, which is confusing because McGregor said that his return would be in the octagon not the square.
As usual, these fellas need to set up something just to fill their pockets once again on simply showing off some jabs and running and viola... Easy millions.

Just snipping out something from this article.
Mayweather has reportedly offered McGregor $157.9million (£131.5m) for the rematch and is said to be willing to put his unbeaten professional record on the line.

https://www.sportbible.com/boxing/conor-mcgregor-floyd-mayweather-rematch-20220726

For Dana, when the money involved is something that cant really be ignored then i wont really be surprised if he would be signing up.




I disagree. Uncle Dana has already mentioned many times that he does not want to be involved in promoting UFC fighters in boxing anymore. He certainly made money in Conor versus Floyd Mayweather, however, Conor lost the fight and this reduced the UFC's branding. Francis Ngannou wanted to fight Tyson Fury, Dana said no. Kamaru Usman wanted to box versus Canelo, Dana also said no.

Lock this thread.

Did it really reduce UFC's branding when Conor lost? not sure about that though. Maybe what Dana lost is that Conor didn't come back to UFC anymore after tasting that huge money pot, like a sweepstakes for fighting Floyd.

So maybe that's Dana's rant, if Conor could be back in UFC or at least fight once a year, maybe he could allow this fight to happen as big money is going to be in the table for both fighters and for himself as well.

I'm sure it's just all about the money, the fight makes both more popular and that will be regardless of the outcome. A rematch is good, it's time for Conor to depend on himself in the sport that he is very good at. A UFC fighter vs a popular boxer, that's easy money for the fighters and promoters of the fight.
2535  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: July 29, 2022, 11:59:33 AM
Magnolia is +9.5 live, I'm taking it now.
Good luck, that's a big gamble but currently, the lead is still in double-digit and I don't think Magnolia still has time to come back and win. +9.5 too has very slim chance of winning as most likely Magnolia will not play hard anymore knowing they will still lose.

Congratulations Bisdak, hopefully I will have my win also tonight. We still have one quarter, with a better defense and offense, I believe that Magnolia will make it a close game, it's okay if they'll lose as long as they will not lose more than 9 points because game 3 is more exciting and another chance to bet.

Game 3 is very important, no doubt, I'm sure everyone will be betting on Ginebra, I think the spread would be -3.5 that time but it's still manageable IMO.
2536  Local / Pamilihan / Re: Coins.ph suspended my account without valid reason on: July 29, 2022, 10:53:17 AM
Guys just a quick question, is there any alternative para makapag cash out ng mga BTCs not using coins.ph? Unfortunately, my level 3 verification account was temporarily flagged by coins.ph since yung proceeds daw ng BTCs ko nanggagaling sa isang gambling establishment, which is prohibited by their TOS. Dahil dito, they limited my withdrawal monthly from p400,000 to only p25,000.

I hope may isang alternative pa in order to cash out my BTCs given the fact na nagagamit ko sila almost weekly para sa mga kapatid ko. Any help would be greatly appreciated, thank you guys.

Do you mean to say converted into peso? if that's what you meant, then there's a way to cash it out through Binance, just use the p2p service, you can cash out to your bank account or the most popular which is GCASH.
2537  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: July 29, 2022, 08:11:09 AM
The Golden State Warriors have shown some interest in picking up Carmelo Anthony for next season. I’m not sure how well he would fit in, but I’m sure he could do some damage off the bench. I’m thinking it would probably be his last chance to win a championship, so it wouldn’t be a bad option for him. I’d wait to see if Kyrie gets traded to the Lakers and see if I could run that back before anything else though.
Not really bad if the GSW will pick him. Last season IIRC it was him that has been taken almost at the last minute since no team would like to have him but good thing he's saved. I guess I like him to be there because of the thought that he's gonna take the ring with him before his retirement.
Maybe all of us would agree with that matter and the rest, arguable about the whatnots of him being in the dub nation.

Perhaps that what we all wanted to see for Carmelo, win that first ring. So much publicity goes when he join Lebron with the Lakers in hoping that somewhat him and Bron could be a good tandem and could take them as far as the finals, but that didn't happen. But with the Dubs it might be different for Carmelo, the Warriors has a lot of players that wanted to win back to back and maybe Carmelo can be somewhat a factor. So I like him to be pick up by the Warriors at least this season.

Great 2nd team I guess, Carmelo is now healthy, so despite his age, I'm sure he can still drop a decent number playing the system of the Warriors. They will be a fast face team, it could be new for Carmelo but hopefully he will be able to make the right adjustment to fit.

Maybe his role will be like in the Lakers, in their to shoot the 3 as we all know that they love to go outside with Curry, Klay and Poole. And maybe Melo from the bench will be their guy to make that shoot. Yes, last season Melo was healthy with the Lakers, so that is a good sign already. But still up to the Warriors coaching team, for sure Kerr will have a good plan if ever they will get Melo this season.

That will be the nearest case to Carmelo because he can't be in the main line-up for sure, I'm not saying that he ain't got the talent but the Warriors have already established their first five and that will remain as long as the starting five are all healthy. Acquiring Camelo will be good for the team especially now that Carmelo maintained his health and proven to produce decent productions last season.
2538  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Crawford vs Spence on: July 28, 2022, 08:05:43 PM
Ok, this is just my thoughts, I think it boils down to the guaranteed money for either boxer. I'm not sure of the numbers but we haven't seen 1 million buys for a long time isn't it? And then the PPV is going to be expensive in this one, like $80.00. Is fans willing to pay that much or would rather look for other venues to watch it for free? (just like the majority of us here). So the networks maybe can't guarantee how much they are going to give them in terms of the PPV. Even the Canelo fights are not that generating at least 1 million PPV, he is the cash cow right now. So this could be in the tune of like 500,000-600,000 which might fall to the expectation of networks.

Yup, it's been quite a long time since we saw huge PPV buys but I'm certain that we already come across over 1 Million PPV buys. In fact, Mayweather holds the top 3 spots in most PPV buys and that includes Canelo in the 3rd spot when he fought Mayweather way back in 2013 with 2.2 Million PPV buys which generated $150 million.

But yes, your figures are quite likely in this fight because Spence Jr. is alone already averaging 400k-500k PPV buys. How much more if Crawford is added in the equation.
2539  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Mayweather Vs McGregor: Info and prediction thread on: July 28, 2022, 07:05:41 PM
It pains me to bump this thread again...  It really does...  I read an article today though that says McGregor and Mayweather are currently in talks to do a repeat of their last fight.  Supposedly they're arguing now over what the rules would be.  Dana White recently said that he wouldn't sign off that fight, but money talks and I'm sure he says that every time he would have to go into a negotiation like that.  It sounds like a fight is making progress though, which is confusing because McGregor said that his return would be in the octagon not the square.

I thought so too, McGregor named Kamaru Usman to be his preferred first opponent and fight when he returns from the injury he obtained against Poirier but Usman said that he will only agree to fight McGregor on a title shot under one condition and that is to defeat Nate Diaz first. So now, I'm quite confused why McGregor and Mayweather is now having some talks for their rematch and I don't think McGregor will get Dana White's blessing for it.
2540  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Discussion] Should Gambling be Banned? on: July 28, 2022, 06:40:24 PM
I don't think banning gambling can be something that is possible,  the government benefit from tax they receive from gambling companies. It will be a difficult decision for government to think of to ban gambling instead they may try to restrict the rate at which gambling activity is been done.

The government can ban gambling but it doesn't mean they can ban people from accessing illegal gambling.  Banning gambling will give more negative result than regulating it.  If a government banne gambling the citizen who are engaging in gambling activity are now breaking the law, they might get imprisoned or put to jail where the government shoulder all the expenses of the prisoner.  The banning of gambling activities doesn't prevent people from gambling and becoming gambling addicts.
So banning gambling is a loss, but regulating is I think a win-win scenario.

Indeed, citizens who are convicted of gambling activities will be just another burden to the government whom they will be forced to get the citizen food and shelter while in prison and that means exhausting funds that could be used in another way that is more useful. Banning gambling won't be useful and won't get the citizens out of the activities nor get rid of their addiction.
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