Don't bother arguing with these fools as 99% of them are too lazy to have done any due diligence themselves and just hope that someone else will work on bitcoin and it will somehow make them rich.  From memory, when I did the estimates way back in the day, I think I came up with bitcoin needing 8 MB blocks in the long run to function as a global settlement system where transactions of around $10k or more are viable.

Is 2 MB blocks + LN equal or better to that?  No.  LN is an even more centralized, more permissioned version of bitcoin where they seek to transfer all consumer payments to.  So you theoretically CAN transfer most bitcoin traffic there, but LN doesn't actually have anything in common with bitcoin in the first place.  It's a totally different system.  It's like replacing bitcoin with bitshares and pretending it's the same thing.  But when it comes down to it, bitcoin transaction validators are designed to centralize, nullifying any reason for it's existence, so there's no point in even discussing building any 2nd tier layers on it.

Discussing LN vs bigger blocks is like discussing what color to paint the Titanic.  It's 100% impossible to create a decentralized digital currency where transaction validators don't centralize.

Hodling to zero is so yesterday.  Real men buy all the way to zero.

I think I've been accussed of being this guy at least 3 times in this thread, but there's no better time than right now for...the Chris Duane bitcoin theme song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwL3yP260AQ

I think Jews is the word you're looking for.

Thank you for posting the topic, Bitmain shill.  I am right now preparing to dump on your fake recovery pump that you're trying to get people to sell before it happens.

How much money has Rosewater lost from ATH so far?  Someone has gotta tell a losses story at the campfire.  My average buy-in price on physical silver is something like $16, so technically I'm underwater (for now), but it was all free from shitcoin profits anyway, so whatever.  Don't be afraid to tell of your massive bitcoin losses.  If there are actually still people in this thread who would lose money if bitcoin went to 0, then that's disturbing.

Every time I see Ibian say something all I can think of is:



Yes, I think we've firmly established Ibian is trilateral commission member Jordan Peterson.  

But that man is not fit to serve in the crusades against the evil cult of Judaism:




You can stop pretending you're smarter than me because you memorized how many up quarks and down quarks are inside of a glass of water.

I will personally call Salvini and tell him to jail you for being a Nigerian invader sympathizer.

Except you know it's 100% true, which is why you're unable to put forth any argument against it.

Not boycotting every single digital shitcoin and insisting people use physical silver and gold instead will be the biggest mistake of your life.  These are nothing but government empowerment systems and systems of tracking and control.  Every single day there's a new psychopath saying "wow, we need to force everyone to use this blockchain shit to enslave them":

https://cointelegraph.com/news/german-federal-economic-ministry-wants-to-combat-tax-fraud-with-blockchain

Physical metals = freedom.  Digital shitcoins = guaranteed dystopia and they all have to be boycotted.  Some people are morons and will see that link and say, "oh, nothing wrong with fighting tax fraud", but that's not what it is.  If the govt raises taxes to 90% to try and fund their dystopia, they will never be able to collect by having henchmen walk around trying to steal people's metals.  If they can force you into a digital system, they will just deduct the shit straight out of your account so there will be no governor on communism at all.

Best case scenario you will be forced to atomic swap your bitcoin into their govt enslavement system.  Worst case they release their govt coin and ban yours.  That's why you have to never let them get their foot in the door with digital anything in the first place.  Just tell them fuck off anything digital is not money, only silver and gold is.

Anonymint brought up this topic once, that Caucasian intelligence seems to have a wider bell curve while Asian bell curve is narrower.  This means whites have more geniuses, but also more stupid people, while many other groups there is not much difference from one person to another.  Not sure what else you can draw from this apparent fact.  

It might mean groups like whites have adopted specialization more than others, where, for instance, there might be generations of stupid people that act as soldiers and have low IQ, while there's been generations of architects building stuff since before the Roman days that don't fight any wars at all.  This also relates to the Jew stereotype (which is probably true) that they never do things like work the land and are always attempting to insert themselves in as predatory middlemen, slumlords, or whatever.  The higher verbal IQ testing they achieved was from generations of always being haggling merchants, bookkeepers, etc.

It's 100% true, and Last of the V8's probably knows I'm right since he's part of the Popescu cult.  Then unrelated to that, a bunch of people also turned against Antonopolous when he started shilling for Ethereum and other bs.

I know this stupid comment was directed at me.  Ever heard of the phrase "the road to hell is paved with good intentions"?  You're all clueless SJWs in this thread that make believe trying to force everyone on the planet to use digital craptocurrency is somehow a good thing, when in reality, the endgame will be an exact replica of the Chinese social credit score system.  None of them are decentralized and it's 100% impossible to create a decentralized digital currency in the first place.

On a long enough timeline it's 100% guaranteed every one of these pieces of shit will be fully regulated and controlled by govts as permissioned ledgers with blacklists.  If the govt doesn't like you, your money is turned off and you no longer exist just like Aaron Russo predicted.  Transaction validators are designed to centralize and there will probably only be like 2-10 mega pools forever - enormous govt attack vectors.  So you pretend I'm the enemy, but really, YOU are the enemy who is attempting to fuck over everyone else on the planet.  Physical metals = freedom and digital shitcoins are guaranteed dystopia and slavery in the end.

Antonopolous is NOT respected by any technically capable people that even work on bitcoin (but I won't name names), and neither is he respected by people like me for his constant lies and shilling about "decentralization" that doesn't exist, so I do not approve.  I'd also be interested in knowing who has been funding this guy for his years of shilling (probably someone like Larry Summers. maybe Roger Ver?), but I've never got around to investigating the money trail.

Then it's probably because you're a gigantic, short-sighted, delusional fool.  Nothing has changed in thousands of years.  It's just a bunch of monkey tribes trying to invade, rape, and pillage everything from other tribes like the Mel Gibson movie Apocalypto.  Have fun being raped, murdered, and tortured by armies of infinite brown zombies, but it's not gonna be me.  They just noticed you have some shit they want so they've decided to come and take it.  Enjoy your demise.

Let's make a deal.  I will stay in Nazi-land:



And you can move to un-Nazi land:

I actually stared at the screen while laughing earlier after figuring out the single entity that controls the worldwide bitcoin price through fraud on Bitfinex since it was $200 is Bitmain.  I had previously thought it could be someone like the ESF or Goldman Sachs instead.  But now that I know 100% it's Bitmain, it's essentially the equivalent of a Chinese federal reserve.  

The US federal reserve ships out worthless dollars to other countries in exchange for real world goods (the equivalent of an enormous seigniorage fee tax).  So Bitmain artificially pumping up the price of bitcoin while having a monopoly on mining is almost the exact same financial scam the federal reserve is running.

Zerohedge housing market update: