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2541  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Imagine the condition of people today if they had invested on Bitcoin in 2015 on: November 27, 2022, 09:43:10 AM
every time we experience these crypto winters we should mainly remember that bitcoin was created to be a currency.
So it must be spent at a certain point, it should be managed carefully, but it must be used precisely because it can be used to create value not only in a passive way
(even if hodl Grin it sure pays off, and isn't like hodl FIAT currency).

I think that the lesson is to use actively, likewise to make investments, create the economy etc etc.

If everyone hodl, the main feature of a coin would be missing.
Ok we would have a "scarce" monetary supply, but if you can't use it to pay/spend/exchange, and you have difficulty finding it on the market, it would have practically no advantage, no real usage.
2542  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Can you access the FTX site ? Scammed ? on: November 27, 2022, 09:15:39 AM
....

Does this mean that FTX site is down and they have officially scammed its users? The people funds saved in FTX are gone forever and there is no hope of getting them back  Cry


this is a well known news, that is also appeared in main stream press, and not only in the specialized one of the crypto sector. Roll Eyes

what users can hope (a bit like what happened in other cases such as mtgox or cryptopia) is to wait for funds to be identified/seized and hope that they are at least partially returned to users.

it's a long process, full of uncertainties, and which will never give back 100% of the investment, but I think it's the only thing you can rely on.
2543  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tennis League All Thread on: November 26, 2022, 10:31:31 PM
Italy was really unlucky in the doubles match against Canada Sad
I followed the match live and unfortunately there were a number of crucial mistakes in the last game Sad

Italy team has not been able to reach the final since 1998! and he won the title only once in 1976!...
this year it seemed like it could make a difference since there are several top-players Sad but nothing, sadly the winning shot didn't come this year either Sad
2544  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Take money $170,000 on: November 26, 2022, 09:57:14 PM
unfortunately it's really easy to fall victim to such a scam also because any user will think... that it will ever be risking a few dollars when I can receive such big amount?
in general, rule of thumb, when an opportunity seems too good to be true, it's simply a scam / rip off, there are never any surprises about it.

it would be enough to look up the address online and find out that it is a scam but people are not using search engine to avoid scams Sad
2545  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can you still win with free spins? on: November 26, 2022, 08:31:37 PM
Is it possible to stick with free spins on online casinos and still be able to make some good reward?

I am looking into the free side of things, no risk at all with free spins but the question is has anyone ever make something out of free spins before? Something reasonable at?

The last time I earned something free from gambling websites was when BTC has very low value and many faucets still run, that's couple of years back.

first of all you need to define what is meant by "good reward" Grin
Maybe for some users it can be "a couple of bucks" for others is much much more Wink
by the way with free spins I don't think you can earn more than 100 dollars in a year since its a "free promotions", at most a few tens of dollars but nothing more.
But it's also logical after all, why shouldn't a site pay a user who is not profitable?
2546  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: bookmakers on: November 26, 2022, 08:27:16 PM
...

this list taken from stake is for certain casino games (and providers of that kind of games). For what I know it's not not applicable if you want play only sportsbook or maybe stake in-house games.

@OP
check this topic https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5319239.0 with a full list of crypto bookmakers/promotion and more.
ready always their terms of subscriptions. and check any reference online (name of the site + scam).
have a look also in their topic here in bitcointalk Wink
2547  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: [Voting 2022] Bitcointalk Community Awards 🏆 [Topic Discussione in Italiano] on: November 26, 2022, 02:55:18 PM
Ravviviamo la discussione, ultimamente sembra che questa sezione locale sia piombata in pieno inverno Roll Eyes

ecco la mia lista!
senza troppi sforzi sono davvero contento di aver potuto segnalare anche alcuni utenti attivi nella board Italiana nonostante siamo davvero pochi quelli attivi..

  • Hero of Good: DdmrDdmr, krogothmanhattan
  • Golden Feather: gbianchi, Plutosky, fillippone
  • Bitcointalk Ninja: TryNinja, LoyceV
  • Bitcoin Geek: gmaxwell, yogg, babo
  • Event of the Year: Bitcoin Pizza Contest / Bitcointalk Community Award, Pumpkin Contest
  • Fail of the Year: CEX Scam (FTX)
  • Discovery of the Year: n0nce
  • Best SpamBuster: lovesmayfamilis, TimeLord2067, Ratimov
  • Best ScamBuster: icopress, examplens
  • Craft Master: giammangiato, fillippone, krogothmanhattan
  • AntiHero: --
  • Miss Bitcointalk: --

In attesa di vedere le vostre votazioni Smiley . Se avete suggerimenti / candidature scrivetele pure!
2548  Other / Meta / Re: [Voting 2022] Bitcointalk Community Awards 🏆 on: November 26, 2022, 02:51:52 PM
  • Hero of Good: DdmrDdmr, krogothmanhattan
  • Golden Feather: gbianchi, Plutosky, fillippone
  • Bitcointalk Ninja: TryNinja, LoyceV
  • Bitcoin Geek: gmaxwell, yogg, babo
  • Event of the Year: Bitcoin Pizza Contest / Bitcointalk Community Award, Pumpkin Contest
  • Fail of the Year: CEX Scam (FTX)
  • Discovery of the Year: n0nce
  • Best SpamBuster: lovesmayfamilis, TimeLord2067, Ratimov
  • Best ScamBuster: icopress, examplens
  • Craft Master: giammangiato, fillippone, krogothmanhattan
  • AntiHero: --
  • Miss Bitcointalk: --
2549  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: MEME su Bitcoin e altre cryptovalute on: November 26, 2022, 09:38:58 AM
Postate e commentate uno alla volta senza creare tutti questi casini altrimenti non si capisce nulla Roll Eyes ....
Scherzi a parte, in attesa di altri partecipanti a questo topic "divertente" ... ecco il contributo giornaliero Tongue



Old but good !
Cit. Stockmemes (South Park Stagione 13 episodio 3)
2550  Economy / Gambling / Re: Blackjack.fun | Live tables | Baccarat |Slots| InstantWithraw on: November 25, 2022, 11:45:14 PM
here is mine!

1 I suggest creating a sort of "olympiad" or a "decathlon" of games.
users compete on different activities, blackjack, roulette, slots, video poker, mines etc and the winner is chosen from those who are able to achieve certain triggers in all games in the shortest time possible!

2 trivia! general knowledge questions / bitcoin theme give bonuses to players who are active in chat and provide the right question.

3 happy hour. at a certain random moment of the day, the possibility of playing some games with cashback/loss back promotions is offered.

4 insert a "points" system . every mbtc played allows you to get points that can be redeemed for cash prizes or physical prizes (gadgets / amazon vouchers etc)

5 head to head game. why gamble/play against bj admin? create match between players. it would be fun have a blackjack game between two random players (of course a percentage from each game is provided to admin...)
2551  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Wintomato.com CONFISCATED 1.8 BTC balance (29K USD)!!!! on: November 25, 2022, 11:33:34 PM
@wintomato
Is it possible to know with what criterion the "value bets" are counted?
what does the bookmaker do to realize this data? what algorithm does it use?
for example, if the same odds occur on betfair.com (exchange markets), also in this case we can speak of value bets (regardless given that the odds are still wrong by the bookmaker??)
2552  Economy / Collectibles / Re: 2022 Holiday Giveaway - 2 chip MMLLC set on: November 25, 2022, 10:56:07 PM
88 bitbollo
thank you!
2553  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does MMA Have A Gambling Problem? on: November 25, 2022, 10:52:37 PM
wherever there is money and the possibility of stealing it will create the possibility of having a scam or someone will try to steal it. it's the nature of the humans.
especially on minor matches it is very probable that there will be rigged match attempts. i
n the end we have seen these happenings in any sport and more or less at any level.
I don't think MMA is excluded from this kind of issues Sad
2554  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: BITCOIN PUMP! on: November 25, 2022, 10:06:49 PM

Probabile Greyscale non possa fornire questi address perché sono in "custodia" a coinbase.
È alquanto curioso che un tale quantitativo di Bitcoin sia in mano a terzi... Proprio l'opposto di quello che si può/dovrebbe fare con Bitcoin ... Roll Eyes

Beh, il fatto che i Bitcoin siano in custodia a terzi è invece una “garanzia” che quei Bitcoin esistano davvero invece. Difatti guarda cosa succede da una parte nel mondo tradizionale dove la “banca depositaria” non è mai quella che invece gestisce il fondo. E difatti, nel mondo crypto, dove c’era confusione tra chi gestiva e chi custodiva i fondi, alla fine i fondi se li sono fregati.

Ci sono tre interlocutori a larghe linee...
Utente che investe in Greyscale comprando le quote. Il fondo .... che tieni i btc su coinbase.
Almeno uno dei tre secondo me non può mettere la mano sul fuoco riguardo a questi btc. Roll Eyes

Quanti sono, dove sono etc etc ... Dont trust ... Verify!
Siamo in un forum di bitcoiner non credo devo aggiungere altro.

in compenso ...
https://it.cointelegraph.com/news/independent-research-verifies-gbtc-s-633k-bitcoin-so-why-won-t-grayscale
2555  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: BITCOIN PUMP! on: November 25, 2022, 05:28:53 PM
Mi viene in mente quella volta in cui Faketoshi ha mostrato una lista di address come prova (figurati che prova) che lui aveva minato btc negli early days. Tutto molto bello, soprattutto quando uno di questi indirizzi firmò un messaggio per sbugiardarlo in pubblico.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5144781.msg51115875#msg51115875

Probabile Greyscale non possa fornire questi address perché sono in "custodia" a coinbase.
È alquanto curioso che un tale quantitativo di Bitcoin sia in mano a terzi... Proprio l'opposto di quello che si può/dovrebbe fare con Bitcoin ... Roll Eyes
2556  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: MEME su Bitcoin e altre cryptovalute on: November 25, 2022, 02:46:45 PM


A proposito di black Friday
Cit. Memeing Bitcoin
2557  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: MEME su Bitcoin e altre cryptovalute on: November 24, 2022, 08:33:35 PM


BREAKING: #Bitcoin chart shows historic buy signal
Cit. Memeing Bitcoin
2558  Local / Italiano (Italian) / MEME su Bitcoin e altre cryptovalute on: November 24, 2022, 08:32:49 PM
Ciao a tutti,
Ho notato che non abbiamo un topic dove raccogliere i vari meme a tema Bitcoin e crypto valute, quindi, pongo subito rimedio e creo questa discussione. Grin
Questo è un topic riservato a pochi eletti. Siamo pochissimi a riuscire a cogliere una certa ironia per cui contributi sono sempre preziosi e ben accetti
Ok Meme a tema, no spam please Smiley , indicate la fonte originale, e buon divertimento Wink
2559  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: [Voting 2022] Bitcointalk Community Awards 🏆 [Topic Discussione in Italiano] on: November 24, 2022, 06:53:37 PM
Ciao creep_o , ottima domanda... Grazie per il tuo contributo Wink
Si, puoi lasciare delle sezioni vuote e nel caso puoi sempre aggiornarle in un secondo momento...magari trovi ispirazione nel voto degli altri utenti. Roll Eyes
2560  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Satoshi likes Pokemon and possibly where the pseudonymous is derived from on: November 24, 2022, 11:33:46 AM
we are in the field of pure speculation.
 it is possible that his name has this origin but I find it rather unlikely for several reasons... Otherwise we dont know of he was really japanese ... Roll Eyes
I don't think we'll ever know why he chose this name, he's one of those mysteries that will probably stay with us for life Sad
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