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2541  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🚀 Sportsbet.io - Main Club Partner of Watford FC ⚽ Fun. 🏀 Fast. 🎾 Fair. 🏆 on: December 19, 2019, 09:29:04 AM
When do you go to Qatar my friend? Be sure you visit the LFC fan park pre match, wherever it is. Also don’t forget to add some pics of your trip in this thread Smiley

I fly out tomorrow my man! I managed to get the new blackout shirt, anything I had from before is too faded (too much love? haha) to make out, yeah I'm definitely going to try check out the fan park, it's on the last day itself too I just found out. Will be going with the sportsbet guys to the stadium so let me find out if they'll hang with the Flamengo fans first, I didn't see many pics online strangely (it's apparently the only place you can find a pint outside haha).

Def going to add pics to this thread -- if I can manage, on the days themselves, if not, from the hotel.

Excited about Monterrey today? Was worried for Flamengo when they ended the first half behind, but glad to see they won, Flamengo Liverpool final has got to be the only final worthy of the CWC=D

Pity about Villa last night. We were actually playing really bravely in attack but our academy boys have got a lot to learn from VVD...
Take off today mate? Just safe flight..

Liverpool almost didn't make it in yesterday match 1-2 against Monterrey... as usual late goal deliver them to the final  Grin
Let me see if I can catch up with you guys at doha Khalifa international stadium Grin ,



It's only 250 miles away from here though.
2542  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: December 19, 2019, 07:54:32 AM
There you go, what a way to start a racism campaign with a racist , the paintings itself are fvcking racist!
https://i.ibb.co/YLXnQGv/images-8.jpg
Yeah, I read about this, stupidest shit i've seen all week lol

On another note, Sampdoria vs Juventus later toda, and I have a feeling this will be a really tough game for Juventus. I've watched this Sampdoria under Ranieri a couple of times and even though they looked shaky on defence in some games, they're actually pretty decent when attacking. BTTS and/or Over 2.5 would've been my picks.
Such a sick campaign and in the end they apologized for these dumb campaign , completely a blunder.

Well well well Juventus won it by exactly 1-2 , how much that btts and over 2.5 combined? I usually use a 1x2 and both teams to score market , good odds especially it was away game.
Now the pressure are on inter milan.
Can they win over Genoa? They are on 19th, it should be easy and get back to the 1st place.

Juventus won it in struggle though, they always been ... recently.
2543  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2019/20 on: December 19, 2019, 06:48:43 AM
https://twitter.com/realmadrid/status/1207349188217823233

Isco and Bale are in the starting XI...Isco...'fatboy/cone Isco' is going to play today...WOW!

Well, we're about to get fucked by Barcelona today since we're gonna play with 10 men right from the get go. Thank you, Zizou  Smiley
Not really..

As far as I can see in the first half bale is a vital part on real madrid building attack, he and isco even successfully dominated the middle to front area .
I can smells that the match will ended draw or for real madrid, they have a lot of momentum to score rather than Barcelona.

Barcelona let Real Madrid play comfortably at camp nou by not making pressure all the time, that's a big mistake.

Real could have won the victory goal, but Benzema was not lucky today.Zidane knew the right way to dodge the goals tonight. I think Zidane will be vying for the title this season  Grin And also the Champions League will cross the city easily Wink
I think it's should be 1-1.

Sergio Ramos clearing of the line vs Pique clearing of the line Grin . That's the only great chance during the last night el classico. The rest is just the battle of the midfielders.
Besides of course that bale offside goal.
The fact that real madrid players put more threat to Barcelona defense ( barcelona fans please come and approve this Grin ) , no wonder people thinks real madrid deserve the 3 points.
I have the feeling it's gonna be a draw since I watched the first half game ... and it's happened.

I didn’t watch the game but as if it finished 0-0. All the attacking talent on show but still no goals, crazy. You would have got some nice odds if you’d bet on 0-0.

I've got no balls to place this bet on the pre-live not even a cent but I did it in tge second half @2.85 for under 0.5 goals , not bad odds though.
2544  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2019/20 on: December 18, 2019, 08:04:15 PM
https://twitter.com/realmadrid/status/1207349188217823233

Isco and Bale are in the starting XI...Isco...'fatboy/cone Isco' is going to play today...WOW!

Well, we're about to get fucked by Barcelona today since we're gonna play with 10 men right from the get go. Thank you, Zizou  Smiley
Not really..

As far as I can see in the first half bale is a vital part on real madrid building attack, he and isco even successfully dominated the middle to front area .
I can smells that the match will ended draw or for real madrid, they have a lot of momentum to score rather than Barcelona.

Barcelona let Real Madrid play comfortably at camp nou by not making pressure all the time, that's a big mistake.
2545  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ITO] WPP ENERGY TOKEN - TOKEN TO BE TIED TO THE VALUE OF H2 on: December 18, 2019, 11:00:33 AM
Well maybe the team did it on purpose for transparency sake, i mean when transactions are made anyone who cared to look will see which wallet is holding all funds or maybe not, and as for the price fall, this is temporary considering the amount of work the team are putting in to sustain the token long term, like i always say, project like wpp energy are long term and are meant for investors who have this set goal, otherwise, someone will get stressed out looking at the price at this early stage.
Well speaking about transparency... you can try talk , discuss about this matter on their telegram channel... I've seen yesterday someone got kicked out from the group for posting this stuff ... that's why I bring this matter to the forum as they can't do that here Grin .

All the way I'm backing WPP project, disagree at certain points is just fine isn't it?
2546  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: December 18, 2019, 10:31:04 AM
Broken players and disqualified players.

https://i.imgur.com/nUFFC9O.png
Didn't know this. Sounds to me like i'm going with an upset next Saturday, Genoa double chance at 3/1 odds? Not bad  Wink

Still we lost it due that crazy additional time , I'm so confident since the game started but things turned around on the injury time, two goals in 9 minutes added time ... noone expected that! Freakin 9 minutes!
Yep, the ref should've told the Cagliari players and the coach: "Look, i'm gonna add as much additional time as needed because I want Lazio to win tonight, so fuck you, ok? Ok"

Seriously, though, no injured players, no VAR check, only 5 substitutions, literally no reason to add +5 minutes. It's pretty obvious that the higher-ups in the Serie A board were behind the shitshow yesterday (with a quick phone call perhaps?), why? Because having Lazio just 3 pts behind the league leaders is what sells the product, not Cagliari in the top 4  Lips sealed *rant over*
That's serie A .

A league and people there is hard to understand, you know about the Serie A anti-racism campaign that went so controversial and got condemned by several parties...

Yes
There you go, what a way to start a racism campaign with a racist , the paintings itself are fvcking racist!


Serie A is a mess with football mafia and racism problem for centuries , so that irrational 9 minutes added time is just small part of the good, bad and strange serie A.
2547  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: December 18, 2019, 09:35:35 AM
Although Duncan ferguson deserves the permanent job as the players also feel comfortable under him with its passionate coaching style .
Everton board have to be honest that Ancelotti might could bring more hope to reach what club's target that has been set since the beginning of the season.

Everyone knew it , Ancelotti is far better option.
Nothing better than managed by the club legend who served the club for 10 years but it's just not his time.
This is very shocking news for me. I never thought Everton would take Ancelotti. It looks like they really want to build a solid team and can compete to get the English league title in the coming seasons. Everton are clearly one step ahead of Arsenal for now.Now Arsenal are the only former big team that always moves slowly to build their team.
More than that, rumored that he also interested to make a reunion with Ibrahimovic, although libra himself indicated that he will go to serie A (ac milan or inter milan)

Everton spend a lot to hire Ancelotti, I heard he'll get around  12 million pounds a year! It means he gonna be third highest manager paid in premier league   Shocked , they are really serious this time with Ancelotti .
Mikel arteta also has been in talk with arsenal since few days ago , looks like ljungberg will be in the coaching staff under his junior Grin interesting isn't it?
This is mad that epl top clubs nowadays managed by their club legend! A non (really) experienced  one , big bet here!
2548  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ITO] WPP ENERGY TOKEN - TOKEN TO BE TIED TO THE VALUE OF H2 on: December 18, 2019, 08:11:40 AM
I just make a simulation to buy the WPP product through https://store.wppenergy.com/ , tried to checkout 3 different products 3 different shipping addresses and I found that the payment address is the same

 0x5a7d211fb51d42ffbf16a0592d5f4d4d4e9122e0

for all of those three simulated orders.
I thought there would be an unique address generated for each order.
With this format I think everyone can 'spy' on who bought the product, everyone can see it right?
Is that part of the company policy? Or?

Let me get this right, if transactions are made with wpp tokens then how is this going to reveal anything or give access to everyone to spy on who bought the product? i think the only thing that someone can see is the addresses that made the transactions, other than that i don't think that will be possible considering the fact that the complete details of those who made any purchase are not attached to the wallet or displayed in public, maybe i don't fully understand what you mean by this.
Sorry I might a little bit exaggerated by using the word of 'spy' lol

What I mean yeah everyone can trace where the fund come and where they from easily with this payment scheme instead generating unique address for each transaction.

The price might fall 1000times from the ico price but if you think like this , by buying the same amount in $$$ now you might would recover all those 1000 times losses with 3 or 10 times easily in the coming weeks Wink
2549  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread on: December 18, 2019, 07:40:35 AM
Chelsea vs Bayern - I like to watch Lampard's Chelsea, but they aren't ready to eliminate Bayern yet
Everyone underestimate Chelsea under Lampard as not ready, one thing you should know that everytime you got underestimated.... there's a bigger motivation to prove that everyone wrong Grin , this is football though. 
A team with odds @5000 won the premier league in 2015-2016, leicester city.
A team with odds @50 to win UCL in 2012 , chelsea they did it underestimatedly.

What else could possibly turn unexpected?

Leipzig to win UCL? Why not?
This is the underdogs year!

And everybody prolly forgot the history between these two in the CL.  Remember when (and where) they faced each other during the 2011/12 final?  Lololol.
69 days to go till this match and so far the bookies set chelsea @3.8 to win at Stamford Bridge... damn this crazy good odds to bet now! while Bayern munich @2.1 , the risk is worth taking.
Besides the history says it all , look at both situations ... chelsea and Bayern munich both in not good form , Bayern munich rarely to lost 2 games in a row in Bundesliga and they even fall down to 5th position by now.
Chelsea also lost 2 games in a row in epl , nearly approached the second place they slipped to lost 9 points in 4 games.
2550  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread on: December 17, 2019, 11:03:46 AM
Chelsea vs Bayern - I like to watch Lampard's Chelsea, but they aren't ready to eliminate Bayern yet
Everyone underestimate Chelsea under Lampard as not ready, one thing you should know that everytime you got underestimated.... there's a bigger motivation to prove that everyone wrong Grin , this is football though. 
A team with odds @5000 won the premier league in 2015-2016, leicester city.
A team with odds @50 to win UCL in 2012 , chelsea they did it underestimatedly.

What else could possibly turn unexpected?

Leipzig to win UCL? Why not?
This is the underdogs year!
2551  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ITO] WPP ENERGY TOKEN - TOKEN TO BE TIED TO THE VALUE OF H2 on: December 17, 2019, 10:14:30 AM
I just make a simulation to buy the WPP product through https://store.wppenergy.com/ , tried to checkout 3 different products 3 different shipping addresses and I found that the payment address is the same

 0x5a7d211fb51d42ffbf16a0592d5f4d4d4e9122e0

for all of those three simulated orders.
I thought there would be an unique address generated for each order.
With this format I think everyone can 'spy' on who bought the product, everyone can see it right?
Is that part of the company policy? Or?
2552  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: December 17, 2019, 09:25:37 AM
Next game for Inter will be crucial IMHO, they will have 10 missing players
what?

And there you goooo ac milan did it again , another very frustrating game , goalless.
Yeah, but even though AC Milan couldn't win, it's still a big achievement that they're unbeaten in their last four games considering their awful form before Pioli arrived.

Anyways, last game of Matchweek 16 is Cagliari vs Lazio. I've added a Home win (@3.99) to my three team parlay.

I tried to leave the Cagliari fanboy in me some place else while i was making my picks, but i still chose Cagliari lol i feel like both teams are in their best form right now. Lazio with their 7 game win streak, and Cagliari with their unbeaten run (13 games, haven't lost a game in over 3 months). Home advantage was the deciding factor for me.
You've got slightly better odds than mine , I've got only @3.9 at the pre-live bet.

Still we lost it due that crazy additional time , I'm so confident since the game started but things turned around on the injury time, two goals in 9 minutes added time ... noone expected that! Freakin 9 minutes!

Well I usually bet on the opposite side when my favorite club playing Grin , when my bet lost at least I can have some smile watching a good football and my club won it and when my club lost that's okay it happens sometimes and you have your bet gives you a good money Grin
2553  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: December 17, 2019, 07:50:15 AM
^^
Another manager sacked this time for everton. Dont these clubs care for their families right before christmas? Sad

https://royalbluemersey.sbnation.com/2019/12/16/21024210/everton-power-struggle-must-cease-for-vicious-managerial-circle-moshiri-brands-kenwright-ferguson
Although Duncan ferguson deserves the permanent job as the players also feel comfortable under him with its passionate coaching style .
Everton board have to be honest that Ancelotti might could bring more hope to reach what club's target that has been set since the beginning of the season.

Everyone knew it , Ancelotti is far better option.
Nothing better than managed by the club legend who served the club for 10 years but it's just not his time.
2554  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sportsbet.io Betting discussion thread rev on: December 17, 2019, 07:10:05 AM
^^ @efialtis
Good thing I cashed out this bet. Roll Eyes
And congrats to ralle14 on making the BTTS cause they had 10 minutes of extra time at the end. Grin
Congrats to you as well and good decision on cashing it out during the 90th minute. That was the longest stoppage time i've seen I thought there's no way they'll get one during the extra time and they did it. The second goal was brutal for Cagliari and their fans they've led the entire match only to lose in the last minute. That must've felt nice to those who took Lazio.
@rdbase that's not sportsbet.io betslip I guess Grin

But well you did it , while I fucked .
I have cagliari to win @3.9 , they did leading for 80 minutes! I was too greedy to not cash the bet out while it last.
The next time I bet I'll consider to cash the bet out dammit.
@ralle14 The last time I see on the last 10 minutes lazio to win was @33  Shocked
2555  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: December 16, 2019, 02:32:45 PM
Double chance draw or away @2.4 looks sexy.
I decided to go with a all-english parlay with games starting at 14:00 GMT...But for Milan vs Sassuolo, and after reading your post, i would've gone with Sassuolo double chance, let's see if our prediction was right or not, game's about to start (:

For the 1st time, Juventus will start with very offensive squad on attack.
https://i.imgur.com/i7XFkaz.png
Looks like a pretty balanced squad. They honestly shouldn't have any problems getting the 3pts today.
And there you goooo ac milan did it again , another very frustrating game , goalless.

I knew it! Sassuolo can do better than just bring 1 point , the game quite open , no team that looks defending to get a safe point... both are really mean it to get the 3 points.
Mission accomplished for sassuolo, a lot of things must be fixed for ac milan especially the finishing was poor.

6 goals in six matches, that's something you can't be proud of.
Calhanoglu as always the only player that looks carrying ac milan play well along with bennacer and suso while i'm watching the fantastic and stunning pegolo keeping the goal clean for sassuolo.
2556  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2019/20 on: December 16, 2019, 11:52:06 AM
Holy shit guys! What a rollercoaster of emotions. Just came back from watching Valencia vs RM, and just wow! I went absolutely nuts after Benzema's goal, like a Spurs fans when Lucas scored the 2-3 vs Ajax last season, my laptop fell to the ground but fuck it!! This is gonna give us a massive boost in confidence ahead of El Clasico...This is why I love this sport, man, I went from absolute anger and dissapointment to euphoria and joy!!  Grin Cool

Courtois, absolute madman! Benzema, LEGEND!!!! Hala Madrid!!!

Edit:  Real doesn't look as dominant as they should be...
We dominated the 1st half but yeah, 2nd half was very underwhelming.

*EDIT
but it's not going be an easy fixture against Valencia.
Whenever Barca dropped points this season, RM also dropped points
FFS!  Cheesy
Thanks to the legend... benzema , I've got a bad weeks and with benzema equalizer at the very last seconds of the game at least I got something to hold for further betting .
The game too much played at the middle, Madrid several times failed to get through Valencia penalty box when Valencia looks easily get in theirs.

Superb performance from Valencia goalkeeper Jaume Doménech who several times make a crucial saves , as well as courtois who nearly scored that last seconds goal.

Now the el classico is in 3 days or 2 I guess , the odds for Barcelona to win this one is @1.8 , quite low as bookies see that real madrid missing several key players , eden hazard is the one who will miss his first el classico this time, Marcelo injury make it worse.

2557  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How long do you hold on a trade. on: December 16, 2019, 11:00:09 AM
i just curious to know if there is any sure way to this trading were by you hold on a trade.
Depend on trade duration. There is different kind of trade like short, middle and long term. Every traders playing different way. For me, if I wanna do short trade or day trade then I do not look for huge profits. Usually 10-20% enough for such as trade. So when a coin reach between that percentage then I sold that coins. If incase start dump my bought coin the usually I sold around 5 to 7% loss and wait to buy on more deep. So perhaps other peoples are doing other way. For middle time I look atleast more than 50% profits usually. So when go around 50% to 100% profit then sold middle terms coins. For long not below  3x to 10x profits. So you have to decide bu yourself how you wanna trade your coins. Because every single person have their own strategy.
Really? 10% to 20% a day? You must be rich by now if you did it perfectly everyday lol but I'm sure there ups and down... things went unexpectedly that makes your 10% or 20% profit gone in just a couple days after or worse within a couple hours.

Realistically I do scalping with 5% profit target at tops in a day, 10% profit average in a week and 20% profit monthly at the best performance.
But you know trading without good management (risk,money, time management etc) you'll never ended with profit.

That's why I prefer low realistic profit target instead a big one but busted in the end.

2558  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: December 16, 2019, 09:56:06 AM
I thought that Manchester United would continue to win because they got a lot of morale from winning the Manchester Derby game but it wasn’t so.I bet on Manchester United to win together with Real Madrid and Psg but both Manchester and Real did not win.
What I am learning is that you have more chances to win during week days rather than weekends.
Keep in mind that Manchester united can only win in the big matches against big teams.

That was a big game but against mediocre team , Everton did a very well job at the old Trafford... they could actually bring 3 points home but yeah the atmosphere at old trafford never become a venue that any team can win there easily. I must admit that United fans always go allin supporting their team.
A big 3 points for everton and another inconsistency shown by united , they did consistently lost against mediocre and the bottom teams, that's the irony.
2559  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sportsbet.io Betting discussion thread rev on: December 16, 2019, 09:22:07 AM
6-6 for me thus far (3-2 today, could have been a lot better if Man Utd made a full comeback in the second half and Wolfsburg didn't score in 91st minute, well i guess you can't have it all).

I could see the winner this week being with 8-9 correct picks, possibly multiple winners will split the 300mbtc reward due to some highly unexpected results.

edit; make it 6-7 City is trashing Arsenal at the half 0:3

edit2; finished with 8-7 thanks to 95+ minute goal by Benzema
Well that 90+1 goal by wolfsburg completed my unlucky days ... i pick gladbach to win in my multi master and pick the match draw in my single. it's been 2 weeks I've got super negative outcome causing my bankroll drained Sad

I've got 5/10 only on
Liverpool
Manchester city
PSG
Getafe
Feyenoord

5 draw
5 favorites won
2 big odds on the underdogs won it unexpectedly for Bournemouth and Parma

This shit requires super mega ultra luck! Grin
2560  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ITO] WPP ENERGY TOKEN - TOKEN TO BE TIED TO THE VALUE OF H2 on: December 15, 2019, 04:15:16 PM
I want a representative of this company to answer my question, if I ask him in a telegram I will be banned.

I decided to talk with the companies that they mentioned in their posts medium. I talked with jtengineering, which are located in Greece.
Medium post from WPP - https://medium.com/@wppcoin/first-hho-power-plant-conversion-test-deployment-in-athens-greece-2abf181e4a84

This company answered me - We spent a lot of money, we heard many promises from them, signed an agreement, but they did nothing

I also contacted with other companies, referred to in posts WPP and and waiting for an answer from them
In case you missed it ...

Take a look at this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4449273.msg52417090#msg52417090
I've made some follow up to investigate the project since they one , using my several contacts to do this too and I just can tell you that sooner or later things will get better...
Those people who fill up their bags with the super cheap token now would laugh at us in the few weeks ahead.

Speading doubtful thoughts will only causing more panic especially on the telegram no wonder any FUD comments / questions gets you banned.
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