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2561  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 31, 2014, 01:20:44 AM

View from the Bund (of Pudong)

Gotta love Shanghai.
2562  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 31, 2014, 01:06:50 AM
2563  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 30, 2014, 10:54:30 PM
How do we know drew is Mr 16k?  (just curious as not following)
2564  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 30, 2014, 07:13:51 PM
Interesting.
2565  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 30, 2014, 12:31:56 PM
I wonder now what this place will be like at $240....

Hmmmm let me think 95% full of troll shit?
2566  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 30, 2014, 12:20:02 PM
Christ.

Let's leave Adam and his family the fuck out of it.

Get a fucking grip.


2567  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 30, 2014, 10:52:37 AM
Out in force today.

Hilarious.

(I wonder, oh I wonder why)

Price tanks--bullish!
Yearlong decline--going up up up!

No shit it's hilarious.

Yes dear.

Hilarious indeed.

You are hilarious and so transparent.

As I said out in force today.

Enjoy.

2568  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 30, 2014, 10:42:21 AM
Out in force today.

Hilarious.

(I wonder, oh I wonder why)
2569  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 30, 2014, 02:59:00 AM
When in doubt

Buy some bitcoin

Angry beaver.




2570  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 30, 2014, 02:38:37 AM
The carlyle group is up there with goldman sachs in terms of blood sucking parasites on the face of this earths financial systems.

they'll either destroy it or turn it into a massive fortune

No shit.

They are going to go for option B, B for Bitcoin, they will not destroy it,  they will profit from it, and... what they will do probably already are doing is milk every gullible noob for every satoshi they hold, before they (and others) launch this thing into the stratosphere up out of manys reach.


2571  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 30, 2014, 02:11:21 AM

Good bloody lord, Levitt is a heavyweight, not to mention his career at the SEC but Levitt, a Bitcoin bull, wow... well I never.....

I think once and for all this should dispell any remaining doubt any of you may have had, that wall street are all over this like flies on shit.

 Levitt is a senior advisor for the Carlyle group, one the the largest private equity firms in the world, and he also works for/advises Goldman, never realised about the bloomberg relationship though, you learn something new everyday.

Having worked in private equity, I can tell you Carlyle are players, and also quite a fcking scary shady firm.

Swimming with the sharks.

God help you all.

(Trish is such a corporate whore puppet, quite hot if you like that sort of thing but you can almost see Bloombergs hand moving her mouth, and todays letter is B for Bitcoin and also for BAD)

2572  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 29, 2014, 08:22:20 PM
I see trolls (95%) with agendas.

2573  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 29, 2014, 06:14:11 PM
blah blah shit gargling twaddle

Yawnn.

Yes dear.

(no more now dear, bored of you, begone now, shush)

2574  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 29, 2014, 06:10:52 PM
Window licking dribble

Yes dear.

(that is a nice little dream you have got there, don't worry dear it is just a dream)
2575  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 29, 2014, 06:09:32 PM

Or Bullshit

(they will have no choice, when they take a good look down the barrel)
2576  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 29, 2014, 06:03:06 PM

Look closely, that's a fake beartrap. Made in China?  Grin

I get the feeling that they trap more bears in China, than anywhere in the world nowadays... and then skin them and remove their bones and bile and organs and use them for medicine and skipping ropes and the like.



i believe there is more panda than bear in china, and panda is endangered species. go figure...

Unfortunately in China they trap all sorts of bears and it is not just the Pandas that are endangered, they also trap other bears for all sorts of "reasons" i.e  Sun bear, Moon bear and Asiatic Black bear etc... all of the uses are pretty fucked up... none more so than the collection of bile from live bears trapped in tiny cages, they keep them alive like this for decades. Fubar.
2577  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 29, 2014, 05:57:55 PM
ebola of thought

yes dear.

hint: Try Twitter, less words dear.
2578  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 29, 2014, 05:45:57 PM

Look closely, that's a fake beartrap. Made in China?  Grin

I get the feeling that they trap more bears in China, than anywhere in the world nowadays... and then skin them and remove their bones and bile and organs and use them for medicine and skipping ropes and the like.

2579  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 29, 2014, 05:40:47 PM
It should be noted also that no one should expect a balanced view of the market/Bitcoin from people who define their identity on Bitcoin being a failure either. Someone who claims they have no stake in the game, and is skeptical of Bitcoin (to the point of having it included in every post) should be viewed in the same light you are projecting on the these "salesmen". That is all.

Touché.  However, the stakes are very different...

Draper invested 18 M$ to buy the 30'000 BTC at 600$/BTC or so.  On paper, he lost at least 4 M$ so far.  SMBIT may have sold almost 100 M$ in shares (at the then-current price) and therefore earned at least 2 M$ in fees, but has sold very little for the last 6 months.  For them (and other bitcoin investors and entrepreneurs), convincing people that bitcoin will go to the moon means millions of dollars.  They  will spend hundreds of thousands of dollars in BloombergTV and advertorials in Forbes to push that view.

On the other hand, skeptics like me, Krugman, "Prof Bitcorn", and millions others out there will not earn or lose a dime, whetever happens to bitcoin.  (Actually, IIRC, Prof Bitcorn said that he does own some BTC.)  We will only have to deal with bruised egos (but economists like Krugman and Bitcorn are quite used to being wrong).  Apart from that, skeptics have no reason to try to influence the price; and they will not spend even 10$ to have their opinion published.

By the way, while I belive that bitcoin will not survive in the long term, I would not risk any prediction for the price in middle term.  It may even go back to the 1000$ range or more, who knows.  All I will risk saying is that, unless and until a large new market opens, the price will probably keep falling towards the pre-bubble level of ~120$ (or even ~20$, if the Feb/2013 bubble too was made in China).



Tim Draper and Marc Andreesen et al have got nothing better to do than waste their time , their effort and their reputation and money on something like Bitcoin. I mean after the failure they have made of everything in their lives, maybe they should just stick to selling cut and shut cars?  did you see how those guys have been attached to every scam going on the internets for the past twenty years,  I even got a 419 scam letter that came from Tim Draper, or as he called himself "Masta Tim"

I am assuming they are putting their money, time, effort into Bitcoin because they think it is a bad idea and that it will never go anywhere and because they think it will fail, and well they were bored, an what the heck lets give this Bitcoin a shot,  as that is how they and businssmen generally conduct themselves.

I bet what they thought was:

" I know!! my career and reputation mean nothing to me , nor my money or time, so what I want to do is invest my hard earned money and my time, on something that I think is a terrible idea, has no future, and that will never work, that provides no benefit, and that I think people will hate! Nevermind that I could enter many many forms of industry on the planet and make fortunes with less risk."

and then they probably thought

 "what I will do is get involved in a scam that I do not believe in, and maybe con a load of stupid people... hmm I will set it up so it only works for a few months a year top and then retire because I dont care about anything but a few meazely bucks I can make scamming a few people for a few months. If only I could just retire and earn more money than most people make in a lifetime from my current investments and just the interest on the money I already hold"

I am sure that the Lawskys and the George Osbornes of the world are only looking for attention too, and are wasting their departments and their own time and effort and money and resources that could be better used elsewhere, making plans for regulations for something that is not ever going anywhere.

Hint for Jorge:
"actions speak louder than words"
"putting their money where their mouth is"

Also hint for Jorge: that new market you are talking about, it is the whole world (at least it does have the potential to be)

In essence I think that these guys, have far more options at hand to them to make more money than they could with Bitcoin, and with less risk/less exposure. To paint these guys as out to make a quick buck from some noobs is a little weak in my opinion, it does not hold up to inspection. Sure they are talking their book, as you point out, but what businessman in the world worth their salt would not? none, nowhere.

ps: Richard Branson assures me that Virgin Galactic will not blow up, I am not sure though, I think he is saying that just to sell tickets, because salesman.
2580  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 29, 2014, 12:16:21 AM
I am really surprised that some of you still give a shit about what shroomskit posts here, I thought it was obvious that the guy is the biggest troll around.




Where/when exactly did you see anyone caring?

Seems to me he has just gotten heaps of abuse today.
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