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2561  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Cryptocoinbank.eu is launched on: September 28, 2015, 09:00:52 AM
...We are extremely trustworthy and have a large number of repeat clients.

Regards

Paul

Glad to hear it, if you are legit then good luck with your new business.
My point was, seeing as you are easily dox'able, why not make a plus out of that and be as transparent as possible?
That may bring a few problems and won't actually prove anything about your long term prospects, but it will stand you out from the crowd, and be a good basis for trading relationships with clients who aren't comfortable with complete anonymity.
2562  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: should i subscribe signature campaign in newbie account? on: September 28, 2015, 07:12:07 AM
i wanna earn more so i though to join signature campaign. so is this good to join signature campaign in newbi account?

What I suggest you do is stop posting and go and get a job.

We need guide from the one who expert about this. We also want to earn something from this.  Undecided

I don't give a fuck what you want.
This forum is full of illiterate spam from kids signed up to signature campaigns for a few satoshis.
Why should it be encouraged just because you want?
2563  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Scrypt.CC | Scrypt Cloud Mining on: September 25, 2015, 08:31:36 AM
something very wrong there

2564  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: A LYIP Possible Ponzi but please give me your thoughts if you would be so kind. on: September 24, 2015, 09:39:53 AM
If this scheme stopped dead in its tracks now, who would benefit most and who would lose out?
Those that benefit would be at the top of the matrix, i.e. the promoter and associates, that's where the upline money eventually ends up.
Who would lose out? Depending on the size of the scam, hundreds or thousands of $1 wannabes who make up the bottom tier of the 'matrix' or by its real name, the pyramid.

My "self respect" comment wasn't meant as a personal cheap shot at you, but in a wider sense, so if you'll forgive me, a bit of context.
We need money so that we can support ourselves in a society that uses it as a medium of exchange. The theory goes, you do or make something of wider benefit and are rewarded with fiat tokens, which you spend on stuff you need.
This started when humans began cooperating and trading with each other, in the common good i.e. where both parties to a deal derived benefit.
This is called civilization.
We no longer needed to prey on the weak, because we could derive personal benefit from mutually beneficial activity, essentially differentiating ourselves from animals and the predator/prey relationship.
Civilization has brought huge pluses, allowed the development of the most beautiful things in life, like art, literature and music, as well as enabling members at all levels of capability to find safety and a chance of happiness.

Ponzi schemes and similar scams return us to the jungle. We only look after Number One, seeking advancement from a direct cost to another human.

You seem like an intelligent, young? guy who can contribute to society as well as reap rewards from it (as you do every day in countless small ways).
There is nothing more satisfying than working hard at something which you also take pleasure from doing, in creating something of relevance and value that enhances other people's lives as well as your own. And getting paid for it. Smiley

Get rich quick scams and schemes eat huge amounts of energy and time but create nothing but a transient personal benefit at someone else's cost.
And it's not just a dollar that's lost, the fabric of our society is minutely damaged every time lies succeed, we become more atomized, less trusting, and everyone loses in the long term.

I'm aware that this philosophy is outmoded in these libertarian days of "greed is good" and dog eat dog, but that's how I see it.

Apologies if this comes across as a lecture, it is not meant to be, just a summary of how I see these damaging schemes, as a considerably older and maybe a tiny bit wiser contributor than some on here.
2565  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: A LYIP Possible Ponzi but please give me your thoughts if you would be so kind. on: September 23, 2015, 09:45:08 PM
Ok so I joined :

RIIAB Feeder Matrix – A Top of the Line Internet Marketing Opportunity
<snip>
Would anyone join this and if not why?


Residual Income In A Box (RIIAB) is what is known as a 'cash gifting' scheme.
It has no products, no business for its affiliate members to do other than selling affiliate membership, and the person they sell it to sells it to....
Think about that at the same time as you think about making money from it.
Where does that money come from?

How can no-one lose?

Of course, that's impossible.
If no product is being sold, no value added, then every profit is someone's loss.
The losses occur when new people stop joining and the matrix grinds to a halt, stopping payments between participants.
The organizer of the scheme then exits with the money trapped in the matrix positions.

It's a scam and by falling for the "it's only a dollar" line, you actively help keep serial scammers like Randy Garard in hookers and blow.
Don't do it, have some self respect.
2566  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [SCAM ALERT] Cryptoconomist.biz is a ponzi site !! on: September 23, 2015, 08:18:02 PM
Not only it's a scam but they also clearly did a corporate identity theft, by looking at companies house!

Why do you say that? It's very easy and cheap to register a limited company in the UK and they don't check any details.

OP
You might want to call Mr. Saleh of R.U.B. Exchange on  00 44 20 8452 9189 and ask him if he knows Eller Otte. Probably a waste of a call, but Saleh is registered as running a business from the Cricklewood Broadway address and Otte is supposedly the company secretary/director of Cryptwhatsit.

Or you could spam their FB along with other unhappy "investors". https://www.facebook.com/Cryptoconomist-Limited-640436376100681/timeline/

Not much sympathy though. What are you stupid, greedy, or both?
2567  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scam alert : Do NOT INVEST in Genesis Mining on: September 23, 2015, 04:01:44 PM
“We are here for the long term and remain bullish on the future of cryptocurrencies. As the market turns back into a bull market it will quickly become a huge rush on mining hardware again since it would then be an opportunity to still acquire discounted Bitcoins while the price is increasing in value. I can say with great confidence that people who already have the hashpower by that time enjoy a strong position while others desperately try to buy mostly sold out mining products,” says Streng.

Striking a positive note on the future of an industry which has been in turmoil over recent months, Streng claims that his company is currently in a “favourable position”. They could keep operating even if the price of btc were to fall as low as $100 USD.

This from last January. A hundred bucks, right. Now even fairly recent contracts are becoming worthless at $230.

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/cloud-mining-will-profit-bitcoin-price-rise-says-genesis-ceo/

But then there's a Streng quote from another media puff piece a month ago
http://uk.businessinsider.com/photos-iceland-bitcoin-mine-genesis-mining-cloud-2015-8

Quote
Assuming you're getting a good deal on electricity — and ignoring all other costs — Streng says one bitcoin currently costs about $60 to mine. For reference, one bitcoin is currently worth $235. But, when you factor in hardware, production costs, staffing, and more, "one is able to mine a Bitcoin for about 20% less than its current price."   

Which implies a cost base for Genesis, a month ago, of ~ $190. Go figure.
2568  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: I speculate that 21 Inc. is insane with their preorder momputer for $400 on: September 22, 2015, 04:09:09 PM
Hopefully they eventually sell the general public some bigger miners. 

Why?
There's absurd amounts of hashpower out there now, burning power like crazy, why is the mantra always MOAR MOAR MOAR?

As we could use more selling big miners to public.   A lot of miners will not ever make it to general public, notice that before you jump on it.

I would like it not just being bitmain supplying home miners.  One company having all control is not a good thing.

I understand where you are coming from, but the arms race mentality that is developing here doesn't usually bode well for small players, if anything, it hastens concentration of power in the hands of a few. This 21 gambit is a short term money grabbing irrelevance imo.
2569  Other / Off-topic / Re: Post your Total time logged into Bitcointalk on: September 22, 2015, 12:11:11 PM
 Cheesy


2570  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scam alert : Do NOT INVEST in Genesis Mining on: September 22, 2015, 11:58:05 AM
too bad, I thought they were legit to some degree. I guess you can say that 99.9% of cloudminers are scam.

This looks like just another ponzi collapse though...

Even if a cloudminer is legit in as far as they are really mining, the way contracts are worded means that any 'investment' made is actually a loan where the amount of return/interest repayable is decided by the borrower.
Crayzeee.....
2571  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: I speculate that 21 Inc. is insane with their preorder momputer for $400 on: September 22, 2015, 08:46:06 AM
Hopefully they eventually sell the general public some bigger miners. 

Why?
There's absurd amounts of hashpower out there now, burning power like crazy, why is the mantra always MOAR MOAR MOAR?
2572  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Cloud Mining - Please help a newbie on: September 22, 2015, 08:31:42 AM
Sir to make sure that the website still paying.... try go to here www . allhyipmonitors . com
less risk if you review the investment site

Bad, stupid advice.

HYIP monitors are part of the industry of scam and are the first place ponzi admins go to sign up.
The 'investment' supposedly made in the scheme that the monitor is supposedly neutrally reporting on is usually paid by the site in question, and they obviously make sure that the monitor keeps getting its Sats ROI to keep the scam going, even when real investors victims payments are reduced to zero/near zero..
 
2573  Other / Meta / Re: Should people who promote ponzis in their signature be given a negative trust? on: September 22, 2015, 08:26:39 AM
It's very simple, you can leave negative feedback if

Quote
You were scammed or you strongly believe that this person is a scammer.

If you don't, don't.

Simple.
2574  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: CloudMining.website | Starting from 1 GHs @ 0.0008 BTC | Since November 2014 on: September 21, 2015, 01:02:44 PM
I'm getting normal payment. Just received today's payout. It is already confirmed!
https://blockchain.info/tx/04656d6cbeb8f548568816190cd0a7ab59e88919e6661c3e6dea61b4a001c8b0

As a matter of interest, especially to the 'investors' who are getting paid next to nothing, would you like to share the details of your holding, i.e. size, date purchased etc.

I did this few times in this thread..

Yeah, I saw your sad story, just thought it would be interesting to compare your "investment" to LoveU's "normal payment" investment to see the differences.

The rationale excuse bullshit seems to be that your early money was allocated to miners that are no longer profitable, but later incoming funds buy access to more profitable/efficient/newer equipment, despite there being no explanation for the differentiation.
2575  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: CloudMining.website | Starting from 1 GHs @ 0.0008 BTC | Since November 2014 on: September 21, 2015, 11:11:43 AM
I'm getting normal payment. Just received today's payout. It is already confirmed!
https://blockchain.info/tx/04656d6cbeb8f548568816190cd0a7ab59e88919e6661c3e6dea61b4a001c8b0

As a matter of interest, especially to the 'investors' who are getting paid next to nothing, would you like to share the details of your holding, i.e. size, date purchased etc.
2576  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: should i subscribe signature campaign in newbie account? on: September 19, 2015, 11:55:38 AM
i wanna earn more so i though to join signature campaign. so is this good to join signature campaign in newbi account?

What I suggest you do is stop posting and go and get a job.
Many people over here are student and participate in sig campaigns to earn extra money. Moreover, there is no job in every corner of the earth.

Who said it was the function of this forum to provide 'students' pocket money by encouraging illiterate, irrelevant spam to be posted in order to advertise shit sites like yours?

So, what I suggest you is to stop poking your nose in every fucking discussion.

Thanks for the suggestion, I'll bear it in mind.
2577  Other / Meta / Re: Should people who promote ponzis in their signature be given a negative trust? on: September 19, 2015, 10:16:21 AM
Some people on this planet only look out for themselves.

Sure, but that doesn't mean I should trust them.

Greed is....
2578  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: should i subscribe signature campaign in newbie account? on: September 19, 2015, 09:39:53 AM
i wanna earn more so i though to join signature campaign. so is this good to join signature campaign in newbi account?

What I suggest you do is stop posting and go and get a job.
2579  Other / Meta / Re: Should people who promote ponzis in their signature be given a negative trust? on: September 19, 2015, 08:51:13 AM
I voted no as well. There are many desperate people who will advertise anything in their signature for bitcoins, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they are affiliated for that site. They just want the money; nothing more, nothing less. They could be perfectly trustworthy people.

If they are that desperate for money that they will promote something which they know is probably a scam just for "..the money, nothing more, nothing less", then there is the likelihood that that desperation will make them likely to scam if given the opportunity to do so, hence they should not be trusted.
2580  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Cloudmining on bitcause.org on: September 18, 2015, 08:50:45 PM
From FAQ's

Quote
Are you really a cloud mining firm?
Yes, we are a cloud mining firm based in Thailand.
Can you prove that?
Our hardware supplier can vouch for us for having bought the miners and we have several pictures of the miners.

Where? Who? When?


Edit: great typo

"All daily payouts and weekly withdraws are calculated automagically"
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