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2581  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [FACTS] Secrets To Altcoin Adoption on: January 19, 2017, 08:31:04 PM
Bitcoin has almost no adoption either.  The $1000,- like price comes from greater-fool-game players, but that is not adoption, simply a speculative bubble.  For how much goods and services do you buy in bitcoin every month ?  That's adoption.  There's almost none.  The "adoption" price of bitcoin must be at most a few tens of $.

But you are right about the distribution.  That is because bitcoin was not serious and a toy thing for the first few years, and it got distributed as it wasn't worth anything.  This is why alts should fork off bitcoin instead of making a new genesis block.


WOW you are a broken record Dino.
Who is talking about Bitcoin and how it's as bad as Altcoins ?
Jesus you guys play that card non stop harping and harping and harping endlessly how Bitcoin is ohhhh so bad.
..in defense of some fucking retarded WORSE shitcoins (that came out afterwards ripping off open source bitcoin code)
FOR PROFITS ROFL

Gimme a break.  Roll Eyes

And if it is being used as a currency then it is in fact adopted Dino.
For example The Pirate Bay has a donation address on every web page.
That is adoption and no other coin has that.
BTC has more adoption than altcoins combined.

If your little goal is to pretend Altcoins are close adoption wise then you FAIL hard.

They have done fuck all.



EDIT:

@Dino
I said earlier.. the obvious.
BTC has a high price compared to Altcoins and the majority use it as the measuring stick.
So you show up trying to pick at BTC denying it.

BTC is better.
BTC does have better adoption.

So i have no bloody clue what you thought you were arguing here when you posted.
Can you name 1 Altcoin that can contest Bitcoin in ANY area ?
2582  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [Poll] Do you feel part of a crypto community ? on: January 19, 2017, 08:24:56 PM
You think Bitcoin's community is where it is today because of anarchists ideology ?

LOL i think not.. it's called greed.  Cheesy

I get a kick out of the fact some of you have this little illusion in your head this shit exists to pander to your childish "stick it to the man" beliefs.

Why would anarchists be making a currency ?
Clearly to have no laws or regulation then right ?
Call the cops or join a class action law suit when Cryptsy or GOX stole your money ?

hyyyyyyypoooooooooooocrites

..hand over your picture ID for anon coin profits.. hypocrites LOL

You guys are full of shit big time.
2583  Other / Off-topic / Re: What are great delicacies in your country? on: January 19, 2017, 11:27:55 AM
In Canada it's "Beaver"



We have various things like Beaver Burgers in restaurants and Beaver-Tacos.
I even tried Beaver Pizza before..

My favorite though is Beaver Wine.
It has a low alcohol volume but it has a really balanced taste not too sweet or sour.
2584  Other / Off-topic / Re: I spend too much time on bitcointalk on: January 19, 2017, 11:21:34 AM
Some say they are leaving.. but they never do  Cheesy
Once you get here, you are here for life !

One of us.. one of us.. one of us..

oh and what is "the discussion" section ? ANN ?
2585  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [FACTS] Secrets To Altcoin Adoption on: January 19, 2017, 11:14:05 AM
Still at it.. why don't you spend your time actually building something and taking a chance to make an actual impact?

I have made more of an impact that anyone in the Altcoin scene.
And you said you left way back.. change your mind ?

And what would i "make".

The only work to be done is a possible improvement on initial distribution and adoption.
Hence the topic..

No one had found a better way to distribute coins than Bitcoin.
yet the popular way to do it is with scammy ICO's ?

Make something ? i will get right on that.. ANN topic 6,001 coming up !  Cheesy

PS:
I had made shit before.. a slew of different miners for example.
Forget about my JPC miner Spots ?
You ? Want me to go there ? LOL

Some of you are just jealous i am a household name and you are NOT.  Cool

I am the only one here talking honestly with out having a financial agenda hiding bags behind my back and a long history of making shitcoins.
2586  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Can you trust ICONOMI if ICONOMI depends on ETH? on: January 19, 2017, 11:02:51 AM
ICONOMI is independent of Ethereum and can port their platform to another project like RSk in future. I think if people don't trust the team they won't collect more than $17 million from investors

$17 million ? HOLY FUCK I THINK I AM GOING TO BE SICK  Roll Eyes

And to that other nooby..
It's "Exchange" not.. "exchanger"
2587  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / [FACTS] Secrets To Altcoin Adoption on: January 19, 2017, 07:40:22 AM
Lets have a stab at this issue.. adoption of Altcoins.

What is the measuring stick of all Altcoins with the majority ? BITCOIN !

What got BTC popular and up to a $1,000 per coin ?
Well we have to look at what type of user base was involved..

BTC's user base was traditionally the more advanced tech nerd on the web like myself.
Bitcoin did not get to 1k because of my Grandma.
It was ex-Financial world guys.. Silk Road guys and various web nerds and coders etc.
Anything but the average person out there !

So now we have Altcoins..
They all want to achieve adoption levels but they target a different demographic most of the time.
Superficial Twitter or Facebook campaigns or posting silly shallow nonsense on Bitcointalk etc.

To me i don't see the Altcoin world appealing to the intelligent of the world.
They are appealing to naive gullible and greedy Millennial kids usually.
Hoping to hit the trendy crowd with a Doge meme or something.

And if it does WORK ? look what you get !
I recall clearly seeing the fans of Doge coin running across the internet spamming like idiots about Doge coin in "Doge speak" (on non-crypto sites) like idiots claiming it would over take Bitcoin's market cap etc real soon.
In other words lying their ass off and spamming the web like brats.

Did it work ?

Nope, all it did was lure in a few more STUPID greedy useless worthless brats.

And you may be one of them i am talking to hear but you all can change Wink
You don't HAVE to be dumb LOL

You all hope one day the Grandma's and Grandpa's will be using Monero ?
Well what do we see in the computer tech world ?

Pandering !
Everything from OS GUI's to web sites and services are dumbed down to the point where they are crippled.
Is creating a fancy wallet Ui going to get people involved ?
Attract trendy millennial hipsters on purpose ?

I don't know but i hope i can get you all thinking in a new direction.
I hope 2017 is a year of change.
I hope it's a year where we take stock and re-asses where we are going.

I think it's time to look at what we have been doing for years and be honest and decide if it's really working.
If NOT ?
Then maybe's it's time for change.

A currency not adopted and used is.. not a currency.

PS:
This is not a self-moderated censored topic like ALL the ANN's here so say what you want.

And what got me thinking about this ?
The 1 line comment by Qwizzie saying no fighting over the 3 year Dash b-day cake picture he posted.
I was thinking history is what it is..
User showing up smart or dumb will see it all.. all the past drama & fighting etc.

So the TECH itself better be solid (and the initial distribution better be rock solid)
And what new user showing up would care to even check ? Smart people not kids buying what ever 3 letter codes on Poloniex fer the ROI'z.

It may very well be many of these coins you all love to support so damn much here are utterly doomed to failure forever.

We are all a Crypto family here and it's not about winning fights but simply moving forward.. together.
2588  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / SPOETNIK RANT #10,619 - MaidSafeCoin + Accountability on: January 19, 2017, 07:08:31 AM
"Please note, this is the ALTCOIN section"

"GTFO out of my scene"

"Feel free to speak up"

Arguing with you? Why would anyone with half a brain do that? I'm sure you have heard the expression... "thicker than a BC pine"?
Spoetard, BTC is controlled by a dozen PEOPLE, who are controlled by a few dozen more PEOPLE. I highlighted the PEOPLE thing, because as a Libertarian you obviously believe in FREE SPEECH, and DECENTRALISATION, and appreciate PEOPLE fuck things up. Especially good ideas with good intentions. BTC being one of them.

What is Spoetnik?

A Libertarian who allows different points of view? Of course not. See above.
A crypto crusader who despises centralisation? Of course not. See below.

"BTC miner centralization have anything to do with my incessant harping"

Awesome. We both agree that BTC is centralised. Seriously dude. You are a contradiction of biblical proportions. Lol!
Maybe you are not a Libertarian, and just a profiteer? Then just say you are, instead of hiding behind this facade of Crytpo-Crusader. Nobody is buying it.  So, what is Spoetnik?

"Spoetalk?"

"You bet your god damn fucking ass"

Soon. There will be just you. Which is your true motive. Support centralized BTC, and trash anything else. Your buddy Himmler would be proud of you.  Wink

Well i am amused by the reaction i got here.. apparently you think you got me  Cheesy
First off my TX records and trade history ARE available.
I never once tried to bend the truth about any financial activity ever.
In the last 2 years i have done virtually nothing.
I put my money where my mouth is when Cryptsy started taking Picture ID's
I backed my mouth up with my ideology when the rest of you did not !

It's all about having ideals but being realistic and practical about them.
For example i have no problem at all with the idea of having an anonymous digital currency.
I have said that lots before.. what i have a problem with is the CURRENT implementations and the claims etc that come along with that right NOW.

Support centralized BTC ?
See ?
You missed the point again..
I am aware it has a problem.
i simply keep pointing out that just because BTC has problems does not make your shitcoins legit.
For example, i point out a flaw in some coin and i get told.. well, BTC is worse and you are a BTC maximalist.
A weak defense or excuse for bad coin dev behavior around here.
You all play that card as your go to default defense retort every day.

Accountability ?
Who am i being lipped off by ? No one knows.. just another random account.
Most likely someone who already has a bee in his bonnet about me for some other scam coin shenanigans before.
This place is full of hiding cowards throwing rocks from the shadows.
While i have used one account.. being ACCOUNTABLE.

Which is what i posted here about on this topic.. ACCOUNTABILITY.

What do you expect with a project released as an ICO ?
Was the Maidsafe guys putting it in writing ?
How do you all hand over money with an open ended deadline ?
Was there a max amount of money to be given or just keep shoveling it in for as long as it takes ?

You do not hold these dev's accountable people.
They post a grand idea then you hand over tons of *BITCOIN* ...yeah the one with big problems mentioned earlier
Then you let them run off with it spending it with no over sight how ever they want.
Then if anyone raise concerns you show up with NOOB accounts mouthing them off calling them a TROLL posting FUD.

So..

Where can we see the contract for Maidsafe ?
As an investor there must be some form of accountability here for all the money right ?
How does it work ? What are the RULES ?
None ? You just are expected to buy "One Day" tokens in the hopes it one day amounts to something ?
Really ? is that it ?

It's an ICO and it's open-ended.

How many bought because they are greedy hoping to get ROI's ?
Ok fine but did you ask questions ? Did you hold them accountable ?
Did you demand the dev put limits on funding and milestones / deadlines and so on ?
No ? You all mean you just shoveled money at them and said nothing ?
And now years have gone by ?

If that is what you all want to KEEP doing then be my guest, it is your prerogative.
I won't try and stop you but i might post some "FUD" mocking you for it.
..because it's deserved.

The lack of ACCOUNTABILITY is the key reason i refuse to support any ICO of any kind ever.
Because there isn't any !

And that has little to do with me personally here or which coin projects are worse.

PS:
I have no interest in slinging political labels back & forth.. it's childish and stupid.
Common sense would tell you people can have ideals that span any and all parties.
These is no need for discriminatory type casting etc.
Want to insult me or discredit me then use your brain.

PPS:
And yes you guys did show up AFTER me and ruin this crypto stuff.. lowering the bar more & more.
If Maidsafe does an ICO then the others think it's ok too now..
2589  Other / Off-topic / Re: I spend too much time on bitcointalk on: January 19, 2017, 06:45:16 AM
Does pleasuring a man with a sock foot once mean you are gay ?
hmmm these are the questions !

I know that was off-topic but the Seinfeld reference earlier got me goin'

177 days ?
Ok he's leading us to Rehab not me LOL  Cheesy
Or maybe even The Gamow  Shocked

"You gotta teach me Mr Spoernik" ?
I love all the variations on my name i have gotten here over the years hahhaha
And all topics are about me here.. i know because a guy said this was "Spoetalk.org" yesterday.
So i will rant on Wink
I keep looking around on the web to see a sighting of a white + red object and find literally no others.
I repeat i think it was anything but an alien spaceship but ya never know.
Prob some type of human activity / craft of some kind.. or maybe what i was hoping was some cool celestial type thing.

"must admit though this place is slowly dying"

I have to agree a bit on that.. over time most older guys have wandered off.
I see new accounts 90% of the time talking.. usually a few weeks old etc.

And you can tell i have been doing it wrong.
My time logged in is greater than some peoples but they have a far higher activity number.
I stick to 1 or 2 sections.
In other words i am not diverse in where i post / visit or.. gaming the forum ranking system.
There was a formula posted here i seen years ago on how to pad your stats.. but i can't be bothered with that crap.

Summary:
The FREEDOM is what is addicting here.
To be able to make a digital currency or speak freely (more so than most places online)
Is what has got me here all the time.

When i started heavily on the web back around 2000 (on a daily basis)
it was common to be able to swear etc.. anywhere.
NOW ?
Excessive moderation etc.
I have had people flip out because they think i have a tone now these days on other forums.
The internet / WEW has morphed into a giant snow flake pussy whipped PC / SJW little bitch fest of crying Troll.
A new generation that never got hit by the parents for being dumb has taken over.

Bitcointalk = Freedom (abused or not)
A last bastion of free speech and open communication etc.
A fucking strong hold where the last of us are hanging on to what we have left off the web !

These days i get a message from my ISP saying hey we got a piracy alert..
They say you need to scan your PC for malware searching for Torrent clients etc.
Oh yeah ? I put it there dumb fuck ROFL

Whether it's Bitcoin or Bitorrent or saying "you posted fucking garbage".. it's about freedom !
2590  Other / Off-topic / Re: How to prepare myself for World War 3 on: January 19, 2017, 01:42:10 AM
I think it is funny how people think they are going to be completely destroyed in WW3. Maybe that is a common thought process for Europeans, since they are always the ones in the middle. The truth is that most governments realize the need for civilians, even in a country they are fighting. Unless we have another Hitler or Stalin at the helm I don't think it will be as bad as you think. There is more precision in battle now. No one just drops bombs on major cities in hopes of crushing the enemy.

But in the off chance of the worst case scenario, there are two options. Move to the rural areas. Or, move to Africa or South America. Don't move to northern Africa, it is too close. Move to central or south Africa. All of South America is pretty much the safest continent in a WW3 scenario. You only have to map out the possible areas where war will occur and stay away. If you are European and do not wish to move that far, I would also suggest Iceland. Beautiful place and has no enemies.

Places to avoid in WW3:

All of Europe, Russia, China, The Coasts of the United States, India, Pakistan, Korea, Japan, The Middle East. Most think of Europe, but all of these regions will see land grabs while the main powers of the world are distracted.

doomsday-10.ways.the.world.will.end.part.4.nuclear.war.hdtv.x264-w4f.mkv
Check out that video online Wink

..has a US govt expert adviser explaining how HUNDREDS of nukes would be raining down.

NOT ONE or TWO !

The reality is the sun would be blocked out and crops would be dead.
The power infrastructure and food supplies would be gone in a couple weeks..
..long AFTER pure anarchy and Marshall-Law has taken over.

Key strategic points would be hit first then secondary targets and so on.
Which means the US might get hit first but the Canadian's would be probably hit as well as other nuclear allies like France who have their own Nuclear weapons / subs etc.

Experts say a nuke would be set off higher up over the USA because it would set off an EMP attack blast
which would decimate the power across the country.. paralyzing defenses.
THEN they would start hitting targets and each one would be pounded by probably a dozen of them.

All that would start what experts have always warned us about.. a nuclear winter.
Such as what happened about 500 years ago.. when humans reported that the sun went away for about a year and a half.. which triggered dead crops, famine and a million+ dead.

Most of the planet would be dead.. there would be very few survivors.

And the risk is higher than you would think too !
All it takes is 1 accidental launch and the other side would retaliate.
Then we would have a long lasting Nuclear Winter and pure anarchy to contend with.
..if you lived past the nuke's themselves.
Good luck finding any food.
2591  Other / Off-topic / Re: Hook Up with MicroGuy on LinkedIn? on: January 19, 2017, 01:32:56 AM
Well i wish you luck.. you always came across as a legit guy.
And i hope to post interesting things ..no many guys on the web are painfully boring.
AND.. yeah i know i lay the FUD on a bit thick.
..I'm working on it (honest  Cheesy  Cool)
2592  Other / Off-topic / Re: I spend too much time on bitcointalk on: January 19, 2017, 01:30:23 AM
Spoetnik <---- Total time logged in: 76 days, 13 hours and 21 minutes.

We go to Rehab now everyone  Shocked
2593  Other / Meta / Re: [FACTS] NEW Scam Coin Section on: January 18, 2017, 11:33:35 PM
@bathrobehero
With ETH, mining was tacked on later after the fact when it was getting insulted for being an "ICO"

And it could be simple.. mined and not-mined.

I suggested this long ago and was shot down by the community.
I don't know about anyone else but my interest is gone when i hear the word.. ICO ..yet again.
And most are not a currency.. Ethereum ? Steem ?
What we see 75% of the time is schemes designed to capitalize on the popularity of past released mined digital currencies (posted now within the old section used for currencies)

You all need to listen to me.. I KNOW THINGS !

Hell i jumped over the flag pole on Super Mario Bro's mutha fuckers  Shocked
2594  Other / Meta / [FACTS] NEW Scam Coin Section on: January 18, 2017, 11:09:19 PM
If CoinMarketCap keeps them separate then why are they all lumped into one here ?
I have for years been harping on you all that we need these split up into coins & non-coins.

Ethereum for example is not even a currency.. it's an ICO token app's platform thingy.

Doesn't make any sense when the whole world admits these are VERY different yet they allow posting anything here.
It doesn't have to even exist or have a block-chain or anything.

vs.

Mined* Digital Currencies

Most of the bullshit we see are nothing buy ICO PONZI / PYRAMID schemes.
Some bullshit ICO token thingy with a gimmick of some sort tacked onto it.
For profit.. by noob accounts signing up here with SIG campaigns etc.

We need new sections in a proper order.. this has turned into a vulgar / obscene mess.
2595  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: PRE-ANN: CENTZ CROWDSALE - Trillion dollar giftcard industry on the blockchain on: January 18, 2017, 11:02:54 PM
Larry Christopher Bates wrote the decentralized conglomerate theory on which CCEDK is based, but then Ronny will try to act like i did nothing...

I created the theoretical foundation that saved your ass from committing securities fraud ronny...you can't run from that

Posting 5 times in a row saying pretty much nothing is lending you a hell of a lot of credibility  Cheesy

You know the staff can ban you for that right ? ..it's happened a lot before to even the biggest members here.

Oh and nice ICO scam you got going here.
My favorite part is using the word "CENT" yet again.
It's a classic used before.. scammers just love using the word cent in anything they can.

And the rest of you ?
Go broke quicker.. you deserve what you get.
2596  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why the world needs Ripple XRP - Whitepaper on: January 18, 2017, 05:49:24 PM
Was that meant to be a defense of Ripple dumping 333 million XRP on the markets with no warning or explanation as quoted by the guy before you ?

If so.. you FAILED  Cheesy
2597  Other / Off-topic / Re: How to prepare myself for World War 3 on: January 18, 2017, 09:15:31 AM
It will be a pile of bumbling fools trying to learn how to hunt.. shooting each other in the woods.
While the wild life is damn near extinct from being hunted to death for food.

Many men will be murdered over a dead squirrel.

It's really just a matter of living a little longer than the next guy.. no matter what you are fucked.

PS:
A solar powered house will be raided by armed gangs. (mostly for the solar panels)

There are parts of the US etc with great fields of solar panels.. steal them and go off into the wild !
2598  Other / Off-topic / Re: Cube Earth on: January 18, 2017, 09:12:22 AM
naw.. Gamow's
I think it's a Triangle like in the old game Qubert.

2599  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: XLTH LITHIUM is a SCAM !!!|"Dev" keeps digging his hole deeper with his replies| on: January 18, 2017, 09:06:12 AM
Congrats JimmyRecard you have been here 1 month now  Grin
So..
What have you learned ?

..asking questions means you are a Troll FUD'ing.

So don't do it anymore.
They do not have to be held accountable or exercise transparency or even answer questions.
Simply smile, be quiet and give them your BTC !
2600  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: What is the Most Promising AltCoin this 2017? on: January 18, 2017, 09:02:26 AM
In other words which coin will be pumped hard luring in the greedy ?
..i have no idea nor do i care  Roll Eyes

I have no interest in speculating on scammy garbage here.
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