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2581  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: wallets that work with bet365 on: January 03, 2023, 10:30:09 PM
I understand. Is it possible to make a debit card just for gambling? It is usually free. Of course it is not the best decision, but if you often gamble bet365 and often deposit/withdraw money it can solve the problem.
I use mostly debit cards and didn`t test credit cards and don`t have such a problem.
In my country, credit card issued by bank is for withdrawal and deposit, so if I should use a card for it, it would be a credit card, but just that bet365 did not put the option of credit card or any card as withdrawal. Debit card in my country is for only withdrawing and not for depositing money.
2582  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin can be banned or stopped by governments on: January 03, 2023, 04:35:40 PM
Indian government (maybe other also)  say that " to ban cryptocurrency we need global help"
Good luck with that.
India tax crypto. That means crypto is legal in India. But Indian Central Bank is the problem, they hate crypto. If the news is true, it would be the central bank that says something like that, not Indian government. They are failing in their own country about crypto, how will they win in the world.
2583  Other / Off-topic / Re: Does money bring you security ? on: January 03, 2023, 02:57:17 PM
Who said that people who are insecure on earth are poor people who have no money. Depends on what point of view you look at it. is it just because with your money you can build huge towering fortresses and build bunkers so feel the safest?
You are living good is the reason you do not know what to be poor is, poor people are not secure. Some people are not really poor but you may think they are poor by looking at the life they are living, but that is not what poor is. Poor people are people that can not live up to expectations, suffering from poverty. I have some people you can look down on in my area, but if you know them, they plan their life very well and before you know, the send their children to school, they build houses and live a good live and praying for anyone in their family not to fall sick to the extent huge amount of money they can not afford would be required. But to be poor and not living up to expectations is even insecurity on its own.

For some reason talking about the social and financial status of the rich as if we are avoiding "reality" and aligning ourselves with economically stable people. In fact, the lives of the rich are far more at risk because there will be a source or center of attention. This also applies to poor people whose lives are uncertain, who die from hunger, live in places full of threats, and are often seen as victims of injustice.
Rich people are wise, they do what makes them to be secured, they are careful. If they know their money loud them that the whole world know that that are rich, they get body guards and do more things that makes them secure.
2584  Other / Off-topic / Re: Does money bring you security ? on: January 03, 2023, 09:38:24 AM
The most insecure people on earth are those that do not have money, the more the money someone is having the more the sense of security. Rich people have more opportunities to avoid the common bad happenings in life that do occur to insecure people and also have the money that will provide them the security they need in life. Even if someone is not having money, they do accept that they are not secure enough compared to rich people.
2585  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: wallets that work with bet365 on: January 02, 2023, 06:50:44 AM
It strange for me.
The way it works for me is that I am able to deposit using master card but not able to withdraw. My master card is not a debit one, but a credit master card that can also accept money to be paid into my bank account, but bet365 do not give the option of master card for withdrawal, only wire transfer.
2586  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: January 02, 2023, 06:30:27 AM
After this defeat, it seems that it will be increasingly difficult for Spurs to reach the top 4 positions. Will Spurs have the same fate as Chelsea this season? We know that both of them are almost confused about their opponents this season and their performances are increasingly unstable. Of course this opportunity will be put to good use by Manchester United and Newcastle, both of whom have the opportunity to secure the UCL zone next season if they can survive well in the EPL this season.
Just 16th and 17th makes has been played, they are going to 38 matches, which means that it still remain 21 or 22 matches to be played, the first four clubs that will be at the top position can not be predicted, though people can predict that Arsenal and Man City would be among but there is a lot of points that can be added and some clubs can at any point can perform exceptionally excellent and different from other clubs.
2587  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: December 31 Soccer predictions on: December 31, 2022, 11:24:41 AM
There is no need of creating another thread for this, we have English premier league thread already which I believe you know about very well, put all your prediction there and let us enjoy discussing there about what is related to English premier league.

Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023
2588  Economy / Speculation / Re: I think that we will see 13500 Dollars In 2022 on: December 31, 2022, 07:25:20 AM
you are day before the 2022 ends yet 13500 isn't there , maybe in early 2023 mate but this year it looks like impossible to happen  Grin  so basically this value will not come any time this day or tomorrow .
Even less than $15000 may be unlikely to be bitcoin price in 2023, nobody can guess bitcoin price very well or accurately, but if history repeats itself, $15000 may be the bottom. What I am expecting in 2023 is that bitcoin price will increase, decrease again but not get below $15000. But I am expecting bitcoin to increase above $30000.
2589  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you have 1 bitcoin? on: December 30, 2022, 07:58:55 PM
You do not need to have worth of 1 bitcoin in fiat before you can be able to buy bitcoin, you can have $100 or lesser amount to buy bitcoin, the value will increase and the ROI would be in accordance to the amount invested.

If bitcoin price has already dropped and some people sold their coins, they are making a mistake that they will realize when the market is more volatile and bitcoin price is moving to the up direction, this may happen soon.
2590  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: when did you receive your first bitcoin? on: December 30, 2022, 07:46:17 PM
I joined this forum and I know the reason why to buy bitcoin, but I do not buy bitcoin, I earn little from the signature campaign on this forum which I believe will accumulate over time and become something big. $100 dollar worth of bitcoin today can become $1000 worth in the next bull run. Most altcoins are shit, you can invest in them and they become a failed coin.
2591  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Where is your bitcoin balance at the end of the year? on: December 30, 2022, 08:52:56 AM
Holding bitcoins through a single year might not be enough to have profit. It should be years.
What if I bought bitcoin 2020 at $5000 and sold it in 2021 for $50000? Is that not enough? It is good to hold the coin for a long time just like microstrategy CEO said, but if the price is well speculated, even 6 months can be enough to have profitable investment. I like people that can buy bitcoin and hold it for years, I like those people that can hold it for lifetime. If someone buy bitcoin at a high price, those kind of people can be adviced to hold it for years to be able to profit from it.
2592  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: December 30, 2022, 08:35:01 AM
I really don't expect Liverpool to lose only to Leicester because the opponent this time is not much different from the previous opponent, namely Aston Villa, Liverpool must be able to close this year with a sweet win at Anfield, one defeat will make them further away from the UCL zone and not a thing which is expected to see them not playing in the UCL next season.
Liverpool aren't playing bad, just that this season is not for them as Mane left the club which was a mistake for Liverpool management to let such a good player to leave the club, but they are still playing good and would be difficult for many clubs in premier league to win them. Leicester is not a good club like before in a particular year, and they are not playing that good in this season, if they compare the club and Liverpool, Liverpool would likely win.
2593  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: What advice can you give to newbie here? on: December 30, 2022, 08:11:06 AM
Many links have been given you, but let me add, make sure you go beyond this forum, read news and crypto related articles too. Do not fear to bring discussion up on this forum, if you do not understand something very well, ask memebers on this forum that will have idea. Be careful of altcoins, some are good but most are bad, the coin that you can have trust in is bitcoin because it is decentralized. Do not save coin on exchanges, go for self custody, cold wallet is safest. Do not rush, take it easy and learn.
2594  Economy / Speculation / Re: I think that we will see 13500 Dollars In 2022 on: December 30, 2022, 07:09:22 AM
It remains just one day away to 2023. 2022 was not a good year for bitcoin. Bitcoin lowest price in this year 2022 is $15500. The market is bearish now but bitcoin price has not been going below $16400. For me this is indicating that next year January may be a bull month, but bitcoin can not fall below $16000 again this year. Nothing like $13500. Many analysts predicted bitcoin price to fall below $14000, but this is an indication again that they can predict wrong. If not for FTX bad news, bitcoin lowest price this year may not even go below $17500.
2595  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin December price on: December 30, 2022, 07:02:03 AM
The 20k and 30k targets are really not too hard targets for bitcoin, but if this is bull season, then I will agree with you. But now we are still in the bear season, 20% or 30% price increase is also becoming difficult, so the expectation of doubling is very likely. I'm surprised that people are so optimistic about bitcoin in 2023, but actually, I think the opposite, and I still expect bitcoin to find a lower bottom in 2023, I see it as an opportunity.
It is very possible that we are going to see bitcoin get beyond $30000 in 2023, it is a year with 12 months which is long enough, bitcoin can never stay at close range price. What people are speculating is that the price is not likely to fall than it is likely to increase, there would be a time $30000 price is going to be seen and might even be above the price.

People are optimistic because the price of bitcoin has fallen significantly already.
2596  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will Bitcoin Die or Pump Up in 2023? on: December 30, 2022, 06:54:30 AM
Elon became an influence on crypto because he always mentions bitcoin and Dogecoin on his twitter, and this is also supported by a very large number of twitter followers.
Elon Musk is an influencer not because he do mention bitcoin, doge or any other cryptocurrency, it is because it has large number of twitter followers, even having follower than any of his companies like Tesla. We know what most people are, they just like to follow someone that is known to them, that people know so well in the community.

And what if Btc does not meet the price you were expecting? You're gonna leave the market? Lol.
We should be positive about bitcoin for not to remain discouraged, to be able to invest at the appropriate time. The bear market period could be long, but there would be a time all-time-high is certain and it is getting closer day by day.
2597  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: December 29, 2022, 09:24:38 PM
Manchester City clearly has the advantage in this situation because they have 1 match in hand, but still Manchester City must fight to win it. Their next opponent will be Everton, I know Manchester City is the favorite but Everton, who is trying to create a distance from the relegation zone, of course cannot be underestimated. I believe Manchester City has a better chance of winning than Everton, superiority and home games will play an important role in this match. Meanwhile, Newcastle also looks very likely to continue its positive trend as Leeds are not in their best form.

If Manchester City manages to win full points in the match against Everton, then that means Arsenal must force themselves to win away at Brighton. It's going to be a very competitive race, but I expect Arsenal to trend down a bit this week.
Everton is losing away matches or they draw it than they win, Manchester City only had one loss and won seven. This would not be a hard match for Manchester City to win. I understand that Everton could be tough and able to win any club, that is premier league, but Manchester City are very good at home.

Brighton player may try their best but Arsenal has the best away performance yet, although I do prefer to go for over 2.5 odd for this type of matches, but if I should guess who to win, I will prefer going for Arsenal though, but let us see a game played with Gabriel Jesus, Arsenal really surprised me in the last home match.
2598  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit gambling today and lesson i learnt (lost 2000 usd today) on: December 29, 2022, 09:12:55 PM
Gambling is very simple because we only need to prepare money and play immediately.
But gambling also requires control because they and we should have seen the many bad experiences we have had.
Gambling is not a way to make a quick buck so they have to think twice about trying it because it won't always work.
Gambling is simple for those that have control and that do not spend much but only spend little on it, but for those that can not control the amount and time they spend on gambling, it is not easy for such people.

it is difficult to stop gambling addicts, if they run out of money they will find ways to be able to play. by becoming a thief or other crime that will become more dangerous. only by going to jail is it possible to be able to heal mental and negative thoughts. This incident of losing everything will think of self-introspection
If someone is addicted to gambling, it is difficult to stop just because the person do not have the mind to stop, but the day the person will have the mind to stop will be the beginning of the possibility that he may stop gambling addiction, but this do occur after they have lost so big and almost all they have if not all they have, but in the process, some people will turn to become thieves.
2599  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What would be an ideal KYC solution? on: December 29, 2022, 09:03:53 PM
Many people afraid about their document selling trough acquired when registering on some gambling casino, I don't think have easy procedure about KYC or document ID from casino gambling will sell in dark market, they have securing and regulation before adapting KYC procedure.
That is why it is good to avoid fake or scam gambling sites, after they will try to scam many users, some users can be scammed while their identity documents can be sold in the black market. A good gambling site will try to protect their customers identity documents but what if it is hacked? Also that you should not trust any company if you do not want to feel disappointed while your data has been leaked.

Don't be serious with KYC procedure adopted at several casino gambling because several casino is free for joining without have submit KYC, but have disadvantage with limited withdrawing without submit KYC and preparing later if account get trouble have to use KYC. Have been habit with uploading document, all exchange cryptocurrency market make necessary with uploading document ID and take selfie.
What I have noticed is that deposit is easy and it requires no KYC, but if you win and want to withdraw, or you want to withdraw from the gambling site, that is when you will know that they will request for KYC before you will be able to withdraw minimum withdraw amount.
2600  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: wallets that work with bet365 on: December 29, 2022, 08:48:23 AM
Other members are given already listed supported with bet365 but of course, you need to consider at the same time with the bank if they are allowing the use of the cryptocurrency direct to their bank because some of them don't allow this kind of transaction and makes a question with it to prevent at the same time freezing those assets in some instances they ask their users regarding with the transaction if this is a legit and clean because we know the cryptocurrency yet not too much accepted by the banks.
Bet365 is a gambling site, but not a crypto gambling site, all they accept are fiat. If you have crypto and want to gambling on the site, you will have to first convert it to fiat and then deposit fiat on the gambling site. Only what I just know is that if gambling is not seen as illegal, or if foreign gambling site not seen as illegal, or bet365 is not seen as illegal in his country, he should be able to withdraw using wire transfer.
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