Are you fucking retarded. You can't even remember that I already pointed out that Nick tweeted that he is not Satoshi.

Fuck man what the hell is wrong with your brain. Too much drugs.

Yup that is my point. You don't care.

Read the post where it is explained that Szabo apparently doesn't even fully understand the technology in some cases.

You are a clueless n00b so you idolize someone who is marginally smart but not the crypto god you think he is.

A day is not enough to fully understand even just 1000 lines of code in most cases. And I assume he has more than 1000 lines, since a crypto currency can't be programmed in 1000 lines of code.


The point is that Bitcoin has man-years of top notch developers. Bitcoin isn't perfect, but it isn't one guy who can't write complete specifications, stealing code without attribution, and releasing coins for sale with half-assed R&D and hype BS on anonymity and zerotime.


What I wrote is they didn't hide it and instead endeavored to apply man-years of high quality developers on studying every line of code.


That is the pitch John tells you. I will agree only on one point, which is that Monero is not user adoption focused. But neither is VNL (nor all the other alt-coins).

Monero is developed slower than a Manhattan Project, because the developers are volunteers. There is no Steve Jobs/Bill Gates coming into their offices to crack the whip.

I suppose John has told his flock that he can develop faster. Well so far he has failed, because he can't write complete specifications.

These projects take a lot of time to R&D. I am actually trying to find a shortcut (and I don't know if I will succeed to), in that I will try to go directly to user adoption so I don't have to try to convince any of you of anything. In that case, you won't be able to attack me if I didn't release a specification, because I won't be selling anything here in this forum. Of course I will still be doing my best to make sure my technology is correct, but knowing full well that as only 1 man, I can't get it all perfectly correct. So I can only hope to get it correct enough, attain adoption, then from there fund more developers. That is my strategy.

What I see of John's strategy is he using deception and providing coins to speculators. So therefor he is going to be subject to this sort of skepticism.

Bottom line is his Zerotime won't work and his anonymity is BS. If he thinks otherwise, then produce a complete specification.


Not necessarily. Zcash at least has issues about the funding model. This is an open question still being sorted out.

Also Zcash has the issue around trust of setup.

Also Zcash is not yet available and will need man-years of development to make sure the code is production level quality (bulletproof).

Perhaps Zooko can do a great job especially with adequate funding. We have to see how this will all play out.

For John to throw his hat into the anonymity arena at this point, is laughable. I even invented ZKT (similar and maybe better than RingCT), but I realized I have no future competing with Monero and Zcash. I either join them or move on to other opportunities. I so far have chosen the latter. I told Shen-Noether that if I knew he was researching RingCT, I would have never expended June/July 2015 researching and inventing ZKT. I hate to waste my effort on duplication. And that is what John is doing at the very best and at worst it is a scam.


Nah, I think americanpegasus really believes that Monero/Aeon will become world dominant. He drinks his KoolAid.


Ah on a mobile phone. I forget that many do that. I am always on a 24" monitor.

He is not releasing complete specifications. Cryptonote white paper is a complete specification of the one-time ring signatures. The Shazam encryption function specification I released this week is a complete specification. Period! Damn it! Don't make me write it again.

I haven't even released any coins into the market, yet my Shazam specification (which is mostly work I did in 2013!) on a minor component is more thorough than John's white papers on the larger scope of Zerotime and the new anonymity BS he is hyping.

You continue to twist and spin the facts to try to obfuscate what we are saying.

Don't say he didn't try to hide it. It has been proven by smooth and gmaxwell that he ran the plagiarized code through an obfuscation reformatter.

Also his refusal to release complete specifications means he can hide what the code (even the parts he didn't copy from Bitcoin and obfuscate) is intended to do specifically. No one has time to figure out what his code does without a specification to guide the study.

He exemplifies all the patterns of a huskster by releasing codes into the market without making complete specifications (and also the product not even developed to the point of being ready to be released to users), then on top of that even plagiarizing code, failing to give attribution as the copyright license on Bitcoin code requires, and then running through an obfuscation preformatter to try to hide his theft mentality.

That you align yourself with someone of his reputation is going to drag your reputation into the sewer as well.

Thanks guys. Apologies but I feel I need to STFU and do some coding. I am trying to finish my points about alt-coins in general on this forum, and I hope today.

I will catch up with you guys once I get my head back into programmer mode instead of foruming mode. Thanks.

I already explained in great detail why MaidSafe (and all other decentralized file projects such as Storj, Sia, Synereo, etc.) can't work.

I also already explained in great detail why Ethereum or any general purpose programmable scripting on block chains can't work. Read this entire thread.

They are hype that take advantage of the technological and philosophical ignorance of speculators.

I hope you realize that for an alt-coin that is serious and not just hype to take money from you, then it is not "fun" but instead a hell of a lot of pendantic, arduous, painstaking work (which is sort of fun for a young developer due to the challenge of it but I guarantee you it gets exhausting and not always fun if one sticks it through to the nitty gritty end).

So if you award $millions to the those who sell hype and nothing to those who work very hard, then you will get only a cesspool of hype/fraud.

I came to conclusion that the only way to rise above all of this, would be to make a project that was so clearly superior in terms of real user adoption, that there would not require any hype nor discussion whatsoever.

The bolded statement is egregiously incorrect.

I already refuted the other sentence in my prior post.

Hahaha The Pharmacist.  You made my day with that. 


P.S. I of course make mistakes too, but they are often of the more convulted technological/marketing interactions that I missed.

You are an obfuscation machine same as your leader. Not all alt-coins have code run through an obfuscation reformatter. Many instead use the bitcoin code exclusively with only very slight modications and don't try to hide it. Thus the code can be more or less relied upon.

Monero for example doesn't try to hide that it is using the Bytecoin code, and they have also undertaken a long-term plan of reviewing every line of code. Afaik, a lot of code of has been rewritten. Meaning they understand all the code and have the resources to study every single line of code. As well, Monero is based on Cryptonote which has a very complete specification on the one-time ring signatures (well not for the PoW hash, but Monero put a lot of effort into the hash function as well).

Monero has numerous developers contributing. Many eyeballs. John Conner is off by himself trying to do it all. In some ways, you could compare my efforts to Johns in that respect. But the distinction is I didn't try to hype coins into the market before my shit was ready.

Exactly what is turning the alt-coin arena into a cesspool:

I didn't call Zcash, Monero, or Aeon scams for example.

I have argued that Zcash may be superior to Cryptonote/RingCT, but this is still an open question. Even right now I am invited to private discussion with Zooko to find out what their legal interpretations are hopefully, but I may be restricted from sharing it (I don't know yet). I have also questioned whether anonymity can gain significant adoption in the mass market. Hey but also remember we are likely headed into capital controls by 2017, so there it is all open to question at this point. I had been thinking maybe it is wiser to target anonymity for corporations on public block chains (since permissioned block chains seems to remove any point of block chains), but also realizing that programmable scripting on block chains doesn't work, causes me to pause to think about the implications.

And thanks for posting from a newbie sock puppet account.

Yesterday when the OP was written there was a double-top. It has since declined and is trying to find support at a lower level.

It seems many speculators are still not understanding that Ethereum can't ever work. Ever. And thus it is going back to $0. But until the speculators realize they are handing Vitalik more $millions to waste by keeping the price high so he can sell more ETH, then the con game can continue.

Also it seems many speculators such as yourself don't give a rat's ass about the future of Ethereum and alt-coins, and instead you only care if the pump can be sustained and you can mine your fellow speculator taking some of his money from him, while Vitalik takes some money from you all and proceeds to waste it anew.

No one said he can't write some code.

Smooth's point is that if he is cutting corners and even trying to obscure that fact that he did, by running the plagiarized code through a reformatter, and on top of that is my point that he hasn't released detailed specifications, then it at the minimum exemplifies that he doesn't have enough resources and is attempting to hide that reality. In the worse case, it is evidence of unethical foundation.

Thus when you all shrill and hype that which is not ready for prime time, and the fact that VNL is trading now even though it is not ready for prime time, then we have every right to point that out.

If John had first completed all the necessary work before providing coins to trade on the market, then we'd perhaps be less inclined to doubt his ethics and scammerness.

Show me one thread where you have ever analyzed any technological issue?

All I see you writing about is what speculators should P&D next. And using lies such as claiming that Nick Szabo is Satoshi, when in fact Nick has tweeted that he is not Satoshi.

And I am sure we will analyze it if he does. Until then, all you have is hype.

A dog will fuck anything, even a tree stump.

You didn't address our point. Which is that he refuses to provide detailed specifications. Please STFU until complete and detailed specifications have been released.