And a nice 33 Block day...with 20 minutes to go...
Those 13 second blocks make me smile. why? unless you have a huge amount of hash on a pplns pool quick blocks will hardly pay you anything. Right. Where are you mining? |
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And a nice 33 Block day...with 20 minutes to go...
Those 13 second blocks make me smile. |
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The Antminer S5/S4 will keep the pool shown as Alive using #xnsub on the old URL (new url does not work with #xnsub on all of my miners).
If the price is not met, the pool stays Alive, but does no work and submits no work, and will not failover to the 2nd pool.
SP20 does not have this problem.
I am using Wed Jan 7 14:05:02 CST 2015 Firmware on the S5.
Also tried Wed Apr 15 15:17:03 CST 2015 on the S5.
Tried all Firmware on the S4, same issue.
Leaving them without the #xnsub on the old or new URL works properly and fails over to 2nd pool when price is not met, but no extra nonce subscribe of course.
Thanks for the attention to this issue! Love your site.
Anyone else have this issue for Antminer S4/S5? If not, how did you fix it? For the S4 I set up a stratum proxy on a raspberry PI. The S4 does not like when Nicehash drops below the profit. The S4 will drop or lock up. So the fix is create a Stratum proxy in your network -point your machines at it. Then out to Nicehash. Full instruction can be found here https://github.com/Stratehm/stratum-proxyThis is a solid technique--I struggled with the same issue. Kudos! |
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Ah...
So its saying in 24 hours I've mined:
0.02159271 + 0.02327526 = 0.04486797 btc
And Maintenance took 0.02327526 leaving me earning 0.02159271 for 1, 24 hour period?
I believe so, yes. Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. |
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I dont fully get this.
IF I log onto HashNest the first screen is my kinda overall summery:
I have 4x S5's so 4620GH/s
Now it says:
24 Hours Earnings
฿ 0.02159271
24 Hours Maintenance
฿ 0.02327526 + $ 0.0
It seems I am paying more in Maintenance per 24 hours than I am earning.
Am I missing something?
But if I go into my S5's it says:
Payout Total(BTC)
0.14590107
Maintenance(BTC)
0.06915057
So I dont really know how much I've made/making with HashNest?!
I'm under the impression that the 24 hour earnings are after maintenance fees. It is slightly confusing, however, as the individual unit page (S4, S5, etc) show your total payout before maintenance fees. |
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Well i bought 200Ghs on Hashnest today to give it a try, was considering gathering some friends to buy some 3-5 S5 units, but do i get any advantage buy buying them on the shop (it currently has a higher price than market) or if i just buy on market to complete 1155Ghs i will have the same bennefits (i think hardware redeem is all of it)?
Buying the equivalent GH as an S5 from the market has the same benefits (e.g. you can redeem them when they become unprofitable to host) as buying an entire unit. You did the math right--the market price is currently cheaper than the unit price. |
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Then you should know antpool sucks.
Then why are you still here? Why don't you go find a pool that doesn't suck or are you just one of those that has a chronic need to complain on forums about everything you can't control? Expectations are usually too high when it comes to mining and every little blip sends people like you into an angry panic which then leads to a series of questionable posts. But hey, keep the posts coming; the comic relief is awesome! I have tried other pools but over the long haul the AntPool has outperformed them all for me. I am happy with the results I'm getting here but it's just from my personal observations I agree. Antpool is far more stable than most pools I've tried, and it's luck is exactly the average that it should be. I don't understand the problem people have understanding averages. I would also like to point out that switching pools when luck is down will cost you money. If you switch with every touch of bad luck, you're never at the pool long enough to see it average out, and are doing nothing more than shortchanging yourself. If that's what you want to do, feel free. I'll take your slice of the pie when the luck averages back up. |
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Good luck I say to you then, I hope we all make a profit. I will try to get my spreadsheet into google docs and clean it up a bit later.
Right on, man. I'm not so proud that I can't admit if I'm wrong. I look forward to your spreadsheet. |
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I doubt S4s will become unprofitable in the short term. Its maintenances fees are not even at 90% yet
Agreed. It's currently the most profitable option on Hashnest, and is sitting at a ... 68% maintenance fee. It will be a while before it gets phased out, unless BTC prices drop significantly. Care to show why its more profitable than the S5? because I would have to disagree with your statement. It s more less the same in terms of profitability. The only issue is which of these two will be impacted more when S6 gets out in terms of price. In order words, which miner ll suffer more price reduction. not really, there is a pretty clear winner no matter what difficulty adjustments are. Its the S5 in case anyone is wondering. I am sure when the S6 comes out there will be a temporary decrease in price, but it will jump back to the level it should be at quickly since the price of the other offerings don't really rely on the price of any other offering. The S5 is more efficient, and therefore more profitable, only if you are are personally hosting the miners. If, however, you are purchasing the GH from Hashnest, the S4 is more profitable because the price per GH and the cost of maintenance is currently less than that of the S5. You can feel free to disagree, but the neat thing about Bitcoin is that its reality is dictated by math and nothing else. ;-) If you feel renting S5 hashrate makes you feel fancier, have at it. When it becomes more profitable to use S5s on Hashnet, I'll move my holdings to that column. Until then, it's the S4 ( and the math) that adds up for me. Actually, I ran all the numbers based on the current price and maintenance charges for various difficulty percent changes, and every single time the S5 had higher payouts in the long run. So you are right, the math tells the correct tail. By your logic btw, the S3 is better than the S4 based on current price and maintenance fee. Also, I asked for you to show your math on why the S4 is more profitable, but you haven't, if your only basing it off of the fact that the maintenance fee is not off in the same proportion as the price, then you are not capturing the whole picture and will not make as much money as you can in the long run. I linked to the math, above. I'll do it again in longer form: http://nextdifficulty.com/#roi. Difficulty has zero bearing in this, as we're working with the cost of each GH unit, which will mine exactly the same coin regardless of which chip you are using. The important factors are the market price per GH of both machines, the cost of electricity (maintenance fees) and the take home after we remove the maintenance fees (which are converted from USD, so you have to take the conversion into account as well, it obviously changes daily). The S4 will return (based on current market price and maintenance fees) your original investment sooner than the same math on the S5. You're paying a premium to use the latest gear, which doesn't make sense to me in a cloud mining environment. In the long run the maintenance fee will knock the S4 off the curve, but currently it's the best bang per GH at the current market price. If the fees increase because BTC drops, or if the market price increases substantially, then the S4 doesn't makes sense. That is not the case right now. Either way, you do you. My ego can handle it, I promise.  |
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Same boat here actually... I want to get a heatsink for my gaming rig at home from newegg, and I have a $5 off coupon that just makes it stretch to doable that expires tonight at midnight PST... All I need is 0.01 bitcoin too, lol...
i use the nepton 140XL for one of my gaming rigs.. the other one has a frio extreme.. Was looking at a Noctua NH-U14S myself, it's ideal for tall ram stack Socket LGA2011 systems... but we're off topic now lol. Yes, still no payout here either... Mine has been payed out--the timestamp looks like it was sent at the same time as others, but I was positive that it happened in the evening in the States. Maybe I just wasn't paying close enough attention. |
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Anyone else missed their payout today? Is it just late or...?
It's MIA for me, too. Sometimes thing break over the weekend a take a little time to fix. Any thoughts on this, Bitmain? |
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Yay! This thread's page count made it to my birth year. (I never thought the GAW craziness would go on this long)
You're an old-ass bastard ... ... as am I! How does it feel like to be one year past (assuming you've had your birthday this year) the prime demographic? My Facebook adverts started trying to sell me new glasses and vitamins. Sucks. |
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I doubt S4s will become unprofitable in the short term. Its maintenances fees are not even at 90% yet
Agreed. It's currently the most profitable option on Hashnest, and is sitting at a ... 68% maintenance fee. It will be a while before it gets phased out, unless BTC prices drop significantly. Care to show why its more profitable than the S5? because I would have to disagree with your statement. It s more less the same in terms of profitability. The only issue is which of these two will be impacted more when S6 gets out in terms of price. In order words, which miner ll suffer more price reduction. not really, there is a pretty clear winner no matter what difficulty adjustments are. Its the S5 in case anyone is wondering. I am sure when the S6 comes out there will be a temporary decrease in price, but it will jump back to the level it should be at quickly since the price of the other offerings don't really rely on the price of any other offering. The S5 is more efficient, and therefore more profitable, only if you are are personally hosting the miners. If, however, you are purchasing the GH from Hashnest, the S4 is more profitable because the price per GH and the cost of maintenance is currently less than that of the S5. You can feel free to disagree, but the neat thing about Bitcoin is that its reality is dictated by math and nothing else. ;-) If you feel renting S5 hashrate makes you feel fancier, have at it. When it becomes more profitable to use S5s on Hashnet, I'll move my holdings to that column. Until then, it's the S4 ( and the math) that adds up for me. |
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I doubt S4s will become unprofitable in the short term. Its maintenances fees are not even at 90% yet
Agreed. It's currently the most profitable option on Hashnest, and is sitting at a ... 68% maintenance fee. It will be a while before it gets phased out, unless BTC prices drop significantly. |
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Hellow!
Tell me please how can I buy a used S4 on the cloud and order its delivery to Russia ?
You will need to purchase 2000 GH of S4 cloud mining in order to be able to receive a used unit. Once the device is no longer profitable as a cloud miner, you will have 15 days to request miner redemption--you'll need to pay a $50 USD handling fee as well as the shipping costs to your location. Miner Redemption
1. If due to falling bitcoin exchange rate or increase in mining difficulty, the electricity fee is greater than 90% of mining revenues, mining contracts on Hashnest will enter a “redemption waiting period”.
2. As we do our best to keep mining contracts profitable, during this waiting period, revenues will be paid out according to the PPS method.
3. If owing to a rising exchange rate, the ratio of electricity fees to PPS payout is lower than 90% for a period of ten continuous days, then mining contracts will revert back to the PPLNS method.
4. During this waiting period, if electricity fees are greater than revenues for a sustained period of ten continuous days, Hashnest reserves the right to retire the machines. When machines are retired, a user’s contract will then enter into the “hardware redemption period”.
5. Prior to a machine entering into this hardware redemption period, Hashnest will not accept any requests for hardware redemption.
6. During the hardware redemption period, users are given a period of fifteen days during which requests for hardware redemption must be made.
7. Customers holding enough GH/s to constitute an entire machine of the associated type (e.g., 1155 GH/s of Antminer S5) are eligible to convert that amount of GH/s into the used unit of the associated type. If a user does not have enough GH/s of the associated kind to exchange for actual hardware, then this user is not eligible for hardware redemption. |
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Still doing this GB?
I believe the interest has died down, unfortunately. If people are still interested, I'm in a position to fund and distribute. You guys let me know. |
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Has the market been fixed?
It appeared to be working last night, but this morning it's not matching orders again. *shrug* It appears to be matching now--I may have had a shady connection.... |
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Has the market been fixed?
It appeared to be working last night, but this morning it's not matching orders again. *shrug* |
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Looks like things are working again--let the bot wrangling begin!
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Bots are great and you can make some easy money.
Some are well written, but some look like class projects.
Push the bot to see the buy and sell limits and what quantity the order must be to get the bot to act.
When you get that information, just trade accordingly....
need to get rid of some hash? put a bid up to the bots limit on the buy side then sell when he one ups your bid...
Same on the buy side, want to buy some hash? Put a sell order to the limit of the bot on the sell side then just buy everything he gives you....
I made a lot of easy money on cex and cryptsy doing this....
Yes, trade bots are annoying but the best way to handle them is to use them to make yourself money at their loss.
Good luck....
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