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261  Economy / Economics / Re: Possible effect of potential billionaire investor? on: April 07, 2018, 03:56:48 PM
Maybe if this is indeed George Soros to invest billions of dollars, but for me it will not be a big spike, where bitcoin is now more money withdrawal, maybe for bigger spikes take a long time but very good for the future. but was very surprised that someone who spread the negative news but invested in cryptocurrency, maybe he was not aware of the true bitcoin strength, fed up with such people.
262  Economy / Economics / Re: US proposes tariffs on 1,300 Chinese goods on: April 06, 2018, 12:51:06 PM
No way! Stop joking! The current trade war, a lot of impacts on the decline in the cost of imports and exports, especially in the rapid decline of gold, a lot of selfishness that is happening now only raises prestige, it should not happen there should be an immediate solution where there will be news worse in the future.
263  Economy / Economics / Re: My Advice on Investing in Crypto on: April 06, 2018, 11:35:51 AM
There are how many people see and are motivated by what you give in this thread. I really like everything and catch my attention, deserve samples and do what people want to do in the crypto world.
264  Economy / Economics / Re: Good news or bad news... on: April 05, 2018, 01:03:45 PM
Japanese Ministry of Finance is going to prepare rules for cross-border transfers of digital money

The Ministry of Finance of Japan is going to prepare in the near future rules for the foreign transfer of digital money.

According to the report of the newspaper Nihon Keizai on April 5, the Ministry of Finance plans to introduce rules under which notice to the authorities should be strictly mandatory if the cost of transferring money for a foreign transfer is more than 30 million yen.

It is said that the decision of the Ministry of Finance will facilitate the consideration of the real situation with operations abroad and is designed to curb money laundering operations.
Source: Alpari
Surely this is good news for cryptocurrency, there is the japanese certainty that japan is one that strongly supports cryptocurrency especially for bitcoin, very positive for the future if this is real news is not just a hoax.
265  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC will PRICE UP ? on: April 04, 2018, 02:28:48 PM
That's all a lot of people who throw their bitcoin for free or it could be better to lose than to experience a deeper decline, instead they sell bitcoin then the wound deepens, it's all because of their panic I can not blame them all it's their own will, some sources to keep holding it but it is not a guarantee for them to survive, you should do what it should, if I will hold it as long as bitcoin exists, and believe it will succeed in the future.

Nearly a month that we saw bitcoin make a wave of motion from going up and down, And I can say that this have cause a lot of panic in the community and strike the fear of nearly a lot of investors and they are thinking that the price will not return to normal again, But I really think that this can sure stop when whales don't have anymore to sell the value of bitcoin can sure return.
I also assume so, definitely bitcoin finds a very bright point, but if the circulation of people who like to sell and buy arbitrarily just to get a profit or on the basis of panic it a little inconvenient bitcoin to pump back, where the percentage between holders loyal to hold bitcoin and those who want to sell as much as they like more than hold back, add fuel to the fire.
266  Economy / Speculation / Re: What’s the % of BTC owners and users in the world? - Here’s my take on it! on: April 04, 2018, 01:57:06 PM

I get your point, but on the other hand, while it may sound a bit harsh, what Satoshi designed Bitcoin for doesn't matter anymore. It's a market just like any other market, where money moves mountains. Whether we like it or not, nothing prevents wealthy individuals or central banks attempt to buy up every coin in circulation to either inflate the price for their financial gain, or to disrupt Bitcoin's progress.

At the end of the day, no one is obliged to use Bitcoin in a specific way, and I'm glad it is like that. I personally don't see it as currency at all, and never have. It may change in the future if Bitcoin actually becomes usable on a wider field as such, but till that time, I use it as store of value and to hold a large portion of my wealth outside the current governmental and banking system. Bitcoin is freedom, so you have to accept even the sort of use you personally may not like. At the end of the day, the price plays an important role for everyone here. People saying not are just hypocrites.


First of all we don't know what the true intentions of satoshi were, he talked both about currency and digital gold/store of value properties, and also it doesn't really matter what he wanted, Bitcoin is what it is and it's a store of value before it is a currency, since being censorship resistant is it's #1 feature, and if you don't care about that then well, then just use fiat.

Also anyone is free to invest or not right now, and average joes naturally will be the last guys to enter, what satoshi wanted is irrelevant to this fact.. The guys that have more money will typically be smarter and get there first. There are a lot of idiots with a lot of money out there tho.



We are going in OT here,but I will only say that there are two types of people involved with cryptocurrency.First want to BTC succeed in the intention of his creator(and I believe Satoshi consider BTC first as currency) so we can avoid current financial system(banks) and that first time in history people get decentralized currency.

Second type of people have only one intention,sell at the highest price and forget that BTC has ever existed.For this to happen in the near future they need "a lot of idiots with a lot of money" to push price up,and we all see what happen last year when so-called idiots start to buy BTC-it lost more then 50% of value in few months.

If the future of BTC is in the hand of such idiots then tens years from now there will be few hundred individuals who will play with all available BTC.Even Satoshi say that in 20 years(from 2009),there will be very large transaction volume,or no volume.
That is a very wrong thought, just thinking of big profits and buying back at a low price that sells a high price, no mistake if bitcoin has increased and decreased very deep because of such a turnaround, when this situation everyone feels the same in nature . indeed they are very idiots in this regard.
267  Economy / Economics / Re: Panic selling can contribute to bitcoin price going down? on: April 04, 2018, 01:24:29 PM
That's the problem of all the problems, the negative problem just bridging the panic, nobody can find a solution with this where the difference heads and different content, I can not convince people to stay 100% until prices soar because their money I can not manage the rights -they're just giving advice, not to sell it if you want to be successful in the future, with you holding it so mean that bitcoin is pumping again.
So a very sharp decline is currently a huge sale, even any negative news will not change the bitcoin price when all its users are consistent to hold it to the future.
268  Economy / Economics / Re: Inheriting Cryptos on: April 04, 2018, 01:13:36 PM
There is nothing wrong with me giving a personal key to a loved one (family), but at the right time not for now, your family is encouraged to know what you have so far, if we do not have time to tell our family. then already know how valuable everything you have, maybe they need more needs, than the coins you let until no longer shaped.
269  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Will bitcoin disappear in the future? on: April 03, 2018, 01:35:59 PM
Not because bitcoin is currently experiencing a very high decline is not a reason for bitcoin to be lost, indeed I realize the current decline allows a very slow increase, but I'm sure bitcoin will last a long time now, many people assume that with the tragedy that happens today.
270  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC will PRICE UP ? on: April 03, 2018, 01:18:55 PM
That's all a lot of people who throw their bitcoin for free or it could be better to lose than to experience a deeper decline, instead they sell bitcoin then the wound deepens, it's all because of their panic I can not blame them all it's their own will, some sources to keep holding it but it is not a guarantee for them to survive, you should do what it should, if I will hold it as long as bitcoin exists, and believe it will succeed in the future.
271  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin contribution to World' income on: April 03, 2018, 01:09:06 PM
Bitcoin not only contributes to the world economy but greatly contributes to the economy of society, I do not see that bitcoin really helps the country's economy, but many other countries do not see the benefits of bitcoin at the moment but see many risks, deeply regrets if not managed well now, so 100% bitcoin has not contributed more to the world because it is restricted by everyone in the world....
272  Economy / Economics / Re: [ASK] How are you going to handle too much debt? on: April 03, 2018, 05:38:19 AM
what would you do if you had so much debt and that your income was not enough to repay your debt installment?
how will you deal with it?
how to solve it?
Lies if people earn small, if they want to try to earn a big enough income, better set aside money or pay debts before bad things will happen in the future, if have a family or children and those who become victims.
273  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin downtrend is limited. Here's why. on: April 03, 2018, 04:43:03 AM
that's not how market psychology works. you're being far too rational. irrational despair and exuberance dominate markets, and emotions dominate traders.

so here's what usually happens: those people who bought at $15k? they think rationally like you for quite some time. but the price drops and drops and eventually, they start to wonder if the price will ever recover. then the crash accelerates. panic ensues. these once rational hodlers who were so strong at $8000 are suddenly so much weaker at $5000 and below.

these are the bulls that sell the bottom on high volume in bitcoin's classic v-bottoms. then they provide lots of buying power on the way up when they want to recover their coins. you should only devote yourself to hodling if you can actually keep your cool during crashes and avoid selling into bottoms.
Am I seeing this wrong or not? I see the article created there are very similar similarities as above can be called copy paste, forgive me if I have an error here.
274  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin is useless on: April 03, 2018, 04:32:42 AM
It turns out many facts, that it is not useful not just bitcoin sometimes humans is also useless because it always think below the standard of thinking, even for me bitcoin more useful that can be profitable in economy, this all changed a lot of people who actually use bitcoin well and thoroughly, many opportunities also to be rich today, take it or leave it!
275  Economy / Speculation / Re: BITCOIN BACK AS THAT WAS on: April 03, 2018, 03:51:31 AM
If everyone believes that bitcoin will be great toward the moon by the end of 2018 or the future, perhaps most users take advantage of this situation by buying it for a low price, The more, the merrier, that's a bit of help to return bitcoins and to the price they want, not an easy thing to bitcoin itself, many challenges await also in the future.
276  Economy / Speculation / Re: I think we have to see 35000 usd in 2018 according to this table on: April 02, 2018, 03:03:31 PM
It does not guarantee that this is a sudden reality, but unforeseen events can also come suddenly, that's what makes everyone's prediction always wrong, not ruining the possibility that there will be a huge boost by the end of 2018.
277  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is bitcoin still in a strong downtrend ? on: April 02, 2018, 01:53:09 PM
For now there is a tendency for me to be a descendant that for me will not be too deep, it's hard for bitcoin to show improvement because bitcoin has lost a lot of money today, buy it now and maybe it will help bitcoin to pump again for later this year .
278  Economy / Speculation / Re: April fools day fact: The market keep bleeding hard on: April 02, 2018, 01:16:12 PM
Blood of the market doesn't seem to stop bleeding today, BTC is at $69xx , ETH $3xx. Market cap $263M+ Where does the money go? and When will it be back? Probably to have a "moon" days the market need to bleed more. Everyone be cool!  Cool
When bitcoin is in a falling position those who do not understand anything often think negatively about it but still expect profit and increment it's unfair to bitcoin users like that, i keep calm in crypto keep buying or investing may be the way i keep buying and investing can reduce bleeding, not worsen with all the anxiety and spread riots in this forum.
279  Economy / Economics / Re: Does the bank glad to support cryptocurrency trade? on: April 02, 2018, 01:00:47 PM
Many banks fear for years about bitcoin development, the bank's concerns about bitcoin because they see so much potential for bitcoin for the future so they think about how to ban bitcoin from loyal users is too risky, but otherwise they are at a very bitcoin risk of changing the economy of society . the bitcoin bank fears will replace it.
280  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Betting in bitcoin is legal or illegal? on: April 02, 2018, 12:46:14 PM
As long as gambling is still easily accessible, I think they will do it or become illegal or legal, not the rule of law in every country, sometimes they like to ignore it for online gambling and profit. transactions using bitcoin will disguise them, as there is no personal data that does billing online bitcoin gambling and becomes a boon for them.
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