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261  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Noirbits [NRB] to be merged with Noirshares [NRS] | Snapshot on 9/9/14 on: September 10, 2014, 02:49:58 AM
Please help me to understand, what should I do with my NRS now? I have 5600NRS in my wallet, you have merged NRB+NRS and now? They are not longer valid?

They are no longer supported by NG. You will be getting new NRS. Please don't go dump your old NRS on people that are unaware of this. We tried to have the exchanges lock the market but they didn't respond.

Let me see if I get this correctly...

Current holders of NRS / NRB have been included in the snapshot for the new chain, however, all major exchanges are still trading on the old chain / codebase because they "didn't respond"... Now users are being urged not to dump their existing coins because of... The good natured spirit of cryptocurrency? The way I understand it is; currently the amount of NRS has effectively doubled because of the dual chain issue. Someone with 500 coins, now has 1000 but in a even 50/50 split. They have 500 NRS 1.0 which is the only variant of NRS currently traded, and 500 NRS 2.0 for which there is no current means of use. Does anyone else see a problem here?  

Regarding Price - In the last two days there was talk here (which has been edited since) that stated the price of NRS was on the rise. I checked Poloinex and found that this was indeed true, but like many other things revolving around NRS, this was only half of the story. Overall daily volume for NRS was less than 1.5BTC, the daily volume before this had been much lower. Sell orders for NRS were low, so the orderbook was padded with trivial amounts of NRS all the way up. These were in turn, quickly bought up by "someone" which raised the price temporarily, but any real selling pressure would have sent the price into a tailspin. Now that the artificial buy pressure is no longer there, the price of NRS as of today's date has dropped 86.4%. It wouldn't have taken much BTC to shoot the price of NRS to 20-30K during this time, but to sustain that price you would need mutual outside / unrelated  parties willing to buy (and sell) at the same time to support those levels, and the real support for that simply wasn't there. These are my own personal opinions; perform your own research and come to your own conclusions regarding NRS.

Full Disclosure = Former NRS miner / holder. Sold out at 14k and not planning re-entry.

(edit's made to clean up post)


There aren't two variants of Noirshares. The old chain is no longer supported. What you are thinking of is more like how Protoshares did their snapshots, the users got X % of a new coin and kept their Protoshares, which still were used and supported. We are in a down time between chains right now. I wish that we could of waited for the exchanges to lock, but barwizi wants to get you features asap which I am fine with. Ideally I would hope our investors dont dump the old NRS knowing that they have no use, but I also know that in cryptoland anything that makes BTC goes. Unfortunate, but true.

As far as the price goes when snapshots happen prices tend to rise and then drop right after. In this case what happened after doesn't matter because of reasons I just explained. I honestly didnt notice a lot of buy support and like you are saying if someone was trying to manipulate they didn't do it very well.
262  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Noirbits [NRB] to be merged with Noirshares [NRS] | Snapshot on 9/9/14 on: September 10, 2014, 01:33:01 AM
All that was asked of you was to show proof of what had happened to all the NRS that you dumped.

That's it! only accounting responsibility records were asked yet you went around cutting corners never answering the questions.

How hard is it to show proof of what happened to the premine? what about the eligius project?

You never showed and even tried to prove anything.

It was asked of you several times before the information of what you had done was disclosed.

You were given many chances to prove yourself trustworthy, yet you decided to ignore it.

Barwizi, you could have avoided this whole ordeal.

With all the scams running in these forums, some of us have to stand up and protect naive investors from people like you.

I also never signed any contract stating that you could take my investment and turn it into a "donation" in the event of you being unhappy with my actions.

It was never even stated in your original post.

You stole from us.

You're mad because you were exposed and instead you decided to steal our BTC.

Also, I didn't lock the thread, talk to lajz99 about that.

All you did was try to misdirect the information there, he had proof of what you did while all you had was "numbers off the top of my head"

I'm done here, no point in talking to a wall.


The eligius project (mining op) is still running and in fact Milly6, a GF investor closer to Koontas than he is to Barwizi, is currently remotely accessing the miners to see if the mining op is real. It is. Any officer INCLUDING Koontas could have verified the op. They watched the miners.

The premine accounting will be done. Here is the problem, as you know I have been pissed about the low amount of effort and even lying done by the officers since February. When I asked for the accounting done by Logan over that period all I got was the GF ledger. That is it. Not good enough. I expect better for three months of pay. That leaves me with barwizi's premine accounting and mining op accounting. Now he and I know you want something that isnt just backed by his word. Definitely understandable. I asked Koontas for the mining addresses he was in charge of.....no reply. Odd from a guy that wants justice. I will give Logan three days to reply. Then I am doing it alone, which will just take longer because of how I plan to verify it.

But here is a suggestion. Cool it on the premine anger. I was just an investor for sixth months while getting strung along, if there is ANYTHING suspicious I will dig into it. From what I have seen so far everything is ok, so don't get worked up yet.

Koontas went above and beyond trolling. He is not being upfront with you. Did you see the pastebin I posted in his thread? Does that not make you second guess his motive? He acts like he had nothing to do with NG. Malicious FUD is never acceptable. I will happily review your actions and forgive you if they werent that bad or if you promise to shape up. I am telling you right now that if Koontas did his officer stunt/scandal and FUD/slandering in the real world he could go to jail. Don't act like that.
263  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Noirbits [NRB] to be merged with Noirshares [NRS] | Snapshot on 9/9/14 on: September 09, 2014, 08:50:29 PM
Please help me to understand, what should I do with my NRS now? I have 5600NRS in my wallet, you have merged NRB+NRS and now? They are not longer valid?

They are no longer supported by NG. You will be getting new NRS. Please don't go dump your old NRS on people that are unaware of this. We tried to have the exchanges lock the market but they didn't respond.
264  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Noirbits [NRB] to be merged with Noirshares [NRS] | Snapshot on 9/9/14 on: September 08, 2014, 05:34:36 PM
So will this Noirbits wallet work with my NRS wallet.dat?

I've not used NRS for months because wallet kept crashing on windows 8.1.

Here is the latest NRS wallet:

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwGL9FkcBurESEtVVUtuTFNmTWs/edit

See if that works.

No the NRB wallet won't work with your NRS wallet.dat. A snapshot will be taken of the NRB and NRS chain, and all coins will be move to a new NRS blockchain. So as long as you have your NRS on a local NRS wallet you are ok.
265  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]The Chain & LINKs | iOS/Android app | Referal Rewards | Free Coins on: September 08, 2014, 05:23:30 PM
Im in

https://twitter.com/chocobo56/status/509029141455597568
266  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Noirbits [NRB] to be merged with Noirshares [NRS] | Snapshot on 9/9/14 on: September 08, 2014, 06:36:16 AM
barwizi, can you elaborate the snapshot? So NRS will remain as like now and NRB will be merged into NRS?

Both will be merged into a new NRS codebase/blockchain, so you need to also have your NRS in a local wallet.
267  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Beware of NRS / NRB / NoirGroup (Barwizi) on: September 07, 2014, 08:06:40 PM
Just so everyone knows, lajz99 is Koontas. lajz99 was the COO of NG. Heres a chat I had with him two days ago. He admits it all here:

http://pastebin.com/MUSP5vq8

Want to know why NG had a horrible start? Officers like this. The more I look into what they 'did' for six months the worse it gets. The reason we haven't gotten accounting done is because the officers that have the addresses I need went MIA or are named Koontas and don't really want the accounting done.

I was an investor for the six months Koontas was a NG COO, and I was/am pissed about how this went down. I believe that this pastebin should end lajz99's tirade. If there is a problem in the accounting, if barwizi ended up with too much I will call him out believe me. So far everything looks ok, but I will get investors proof.  

You got me!  I admitted to taking the 9,000 NRS I was due for 3 months of work and dumped the fuck out of it!!  Glad I did too considering the price now.

This still doesn't answer any questions about NoirGroup financials!!!  Logan left because he didn't want to post information you provided that he knew was false!  Hard to figure that one out..

Still dancing around the questions and not providing any answers.  Where is the premine, Barwizi??



[9/5/2014 12:47:22 PM] Koontas: Nothing was done dummy!
[9/5/2014 12:47:41 PM] Chocobo: you dont feel bad for taking 9000 NRS to do nothing?
[9/5/2014 12:47:54 PM] Koontas: Nope!!   I dumped immediately too!!!
[9/5/2014 12:47:59 PM] Koontas: Good payout.
[9/5/2014 12:48:19 PM] Chocobo: so you just went along with the officer role to get a payout
[9/5/2014 12:48:33 PM] Koontas: Nah.  I put the pool up, then killed it.
[9/5/2014 12:48:44 PM] Chocobo: and you tell me I am taking advantage of investors
[9/5/2014 12:48:47 PM] Koontas: Well Barwizi killed it.
[9/5/2014 12:49:02 PM] Koontas: You aren't, you're just too dumb to notice Bariwzi is.
[9/5/2014 12:49:18 PM] Koontas: I was paid what I was due.
[9/5/2014 12:49:21 PM] Chocobo: you brought in arg and grnd to make a way outdated multipool
[9/5/2014 12:49:34 PM] Koontas: Hahaha yep and they got paid too!



^ Please explain
268  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Beware of NRS / NRB / NoirGroup (Barwizi) on: September 07, 2014, 07:50:47 PM
Just so everyone knows, lajz99 is Koontas. lajz99 was the COO of NG. Heres a chat I had with him two days ago. He admits it all here:

http://pastebin.com/MUSP5vq8

Want to know why NG had a horrible start? Officers like this. The more I look into what they 'did' for six months the worse it gets. The reason we haven't gotten accounting done is because the officers that have the addresses I need went MIA or are named Koontas and don't really want the accounting done.

I was an investor for the six months Koontas was a NG COO, and I was/am pissed about how this went down. I believe that this pastebin should end lajz99's tirade. If there is a problem in the accounting, if barwizi ended up with too much I will call him out believe me. So far everything looks ok, but I will get investors proof.  
269  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Noirbits [NRB] to be merged with Noirshares [NRS] | Snapshot on 9/9/14 on: September 06, 2014, 08:06:44 PM
Good luck on this, Barwizi. I was interested a bit initially when I saw it on Bitsharestalk but forgot all about it.

That's because it was a failure.  Read the old thread.

 Roll Eyes people who impose their opinions and try to present them as fact.  Roll Eyes

Until you have proven otherwise, you are guilty.  You've still refused to provide any accounting or provide any information on what is going on with the 5th/s mining operation.  Even your COO doesn't know what's going on with the 5th/s...that's sad.

The operation is still going. I told you that I don't know the old addresses you guys used. You were a big part of the "failure" you speak of, and it seems like a lot of officers were just in it to breeze by and collect a payment. That is different now. You will get your info once I am done cleaning up your mess.
270  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Noirbits [NRB] to be merged with Noirshares [NRS] | Snapshot on 9/9/14 on: September 05, 2014, 07:37:48 PM
I am going to lock this thread and repost under a group account so we can all maintain it.

new topic:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=770744.msg8690797#msg8690797
271  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Noirbits [NRB] to be merged with Noirshares [NRS] | Snapshot on 9/9/14 on: September 05, 2014, 07:09:35 PM
Hey guys,

I linked to the wrong NRB wallet. The new link should work. Sorry!
272  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NRS|NoirShares] POW ENDING at 50k | DACs | MANDATORY WALLET UPDATE 6/23/2014 on: September 05, 2014, 07:06:15 PM
Don't forget to move your NRS off of the exchanges!

Here is the latest wallet for NRS if you need to update before moving:

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwGL9FkcBurESEtVVUtuTFNmTWs/edit




We made a small announcement for NRB holders, so if you know any please send this link to them.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=770038.msg8681662#msg8681662


and chocobo you must post a NRB Wallet link of version 2.2.5.0

https://mega.co.nz/#!h0dzCQJT!H5D3HAmhYh06oeF-WlAW2ibF9VZFBfDOcwB35leFCH4

otherwise the people get no connections !! I have just tried it!

Thanks Mario! Will update.
273  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NRS|NoirShares] POW ENDING at 50k | DACs | MANDATORY WALLET UPDATE 6/23/2014 on: September 05, 2014, 07:03:20 PM
WHAT IS THE CURRENT STATUS OF THE 5TH/S MINING OPERATION?

GENERAL FUND HOLDERS HAVE NOT SEEN ANY PAYOUT OR INFORMATION ON THIS "VENTURE" IN QUITE SOME TIME NOW.

(AND, STILL NO ACCOUNTING...)


The operation is still active. I am gathering all addresses used for the operation to see how much BTC was mined, what it was spent on, and whats left.
274  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Noirbits [NRB] to be merged with Noirshares [NRS] | Snapshot on 9/9/14 on: September 05, 2014, 08:35:25 AM
what is the latest NRS-wallet?

i´m using v0.2.1.1-g99999-Barwizi and stuck @ Block 47998  Sad

maybe someone can post more nodes, please?!?

here is the latest NRS wallet:

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwGL9FkcBurESEtVVUtuTFNmTWs/edit
275  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Noirbits No Premine No Instamine on: September 05, 2014, 06:42:27 AM
Important info for Noirbits holders:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=770038.msg8681662#msg8681662
276  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Noirbits TAKEOVER ! Update v2.2.5.0 - fixes sync issue on: September 05, 2014, 06:41:53 AM
Important info for Noirbits holders:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=770038.msg8681662#msg8681662
277  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The Black Watch // NOIRBITS RE-VAMP THREAD!!!!!! (OP MANAGED) on: September 05, 2014, 06:41:30 AM
Important info for Noirbits holders:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=770038.msg8681662#msg8681662
278  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Noirbits Update required Improved algos !!!! on: September 05, 2014, 06:40:17 AM
Important info for Noirbits holders:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=770038.msg8681662#msg8681662
279  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Noirbits [NRB] to be merged with Noirshares [NRS] | Snapshot on 9/9/14 on: September 05, 2014, 06:28:19 AM
dev, what time is the launch? Please set the countdown, algo?
What are your plans? Best illustrated overviews, thank you!

Noirbits has been around for a year, but hasnt had an active dev for over six months. It will be merged with Noirshares (already launched and maintained by Noirgroup) in the next Noirshares update. Our plans involve DAC's and DAS's much like bitsharesx, but more focused on the cryptocurrency users/industry.

This thread will describe Noirshares well:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=565623.0

We will be launching our first DAC on top of the new merged Noirshares chain.
280  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NRS|NoirShares] POW ENDING at 50k | DACs | MANDATORY WALLET UPDATE 6/23/2014 on: September 05, 2014, 06:16:13 AM
Don't forget to move your NRS off of the exchanges!

Here is the latest wallet for NRS if you need to update before moving:

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwGL9FkcBurESEtVVUtuTFNmTWs/edit




We made a small announcement for NRB holders, so if you know any please send this link to them.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=770038.msg8681662#msg8681662
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