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261  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Quad XC6SLX150 Board - Initial Price £400/$640/520€ on: July 26, 2012, 05:37:11 PM
Im getting the same exact results with cgminer an glasswalkers bitstream. I suppose this is the point where I  need to learn how to compile crainsmoreworker... there isnt a windows build out there, right ?

I'm fairly certain Baud rate needs to be changed somehow in Cgminer to make the Glasswalker Bitstream work in Cgminer I know there are a couple files you can change to do it If Kano is still reading maybe he can give us a tip.

I'm getting 500 ave mhash in MPBM with glasshwalkers bitstream, and 1 of the FPGA's doesn't work which I think is a known problem.
262  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Quad XC6SLX150 Board - Initial Price £400/$640/520€ on: July 26, 2012, 05:21:35 PM
The dip switch settings were posted a page or two back by Yohan. I believe Switch3 needs to be off, all other on, to program. For "normal operation" it's ALL switches in the "ON" position.

As for that error, I hadn't seen that error on mine. It sounds like a baudrate isn't being specified. If it isn't defaulting one, use 57600 for it, that's the rate this bitstream talks at.

Check that and let me know. If that still causes an error, take a screenshot of exactly what the web UI looks like when you get the error (ie: what stage of the UI this error gets thrown, upon clicking new worker, when filling in the form, when saving the worker, or whatever).

I figured it out the switch settings by accident, I also got MPBm working by creating a normal Icarus miner and changing the Baud rate to 57600. I get that error for the cainsmore the moment I click create new worker and select Cairnsmore from the drop down menu. I have 3 of 4 FPGA hashing away at about 180 it says.

I can give you a screenshot however everything runs perfectly in MPBM except creating that one miner type from the dropdown like i said so im not sure how much it will help, but ill post it in a few here anyhow.
263  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Quad XC6SLX150 Board - Initial Price £400/$640/520€ on: July 26, 2012, 04:53:01 PM

- Use enterpoint commandlines to flash the 4x matrix chips (from original document) using the .bit file I posted (in the zip).

"No JTAG Chain found"

Im stuck here.

If you are using the new controller check the new dip switches usage.


Yohan - What about the bitstream that goes along with the controller update?

This is for the bitstream that will come from glasswalker.
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What switch Settings should we be using for Programing the Glasswalker bitstream, and what switch settings are for Normal Operation. I know the switch settings for SW 1, and 6, However what are they for 2, 3, 4, 5 when programming and normal operation to be as clear as I can.

Also whenever I try to create Cairnsmore worker from MPBM I get this error.

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/home/doff/bin/Modular-Python-Bitcoin-Miner/modules/theseven/webui/api/workereditor.py", line 45, in createworker
    worker = workerclass(core)
  File "/home/doff/bin/Modular-Python-Bitcoin-Miner/modules/theseven/cairnsmore/cairnsmoreworker.py", line 55, in __init__
    super(CairnsmoreWorker, self).__init__(core, state)
  File "/home/doff/bin/Modular-Python-Bitcoin-Miner/core/baseworker.py", line 48, in __init__
    Inflatable.__init__(self, core, state)
  File "/home/doff/bin/Modular-Python-Bitcoin-Miner/core/inflatable.py", line 52, in __init__
    self.apply_settings()
  File "/home/doff/bin/Modular-Python-Bitcoin-Miner/modules/theseven/cairnsmore/cairnsmoreworker.py", line 73, in apply_settings
    if self.started and self.settings.port != self.port or self.settings.baudrate != self.baudrate: self.async_restart()
AttributeError: 'CairnsmoreWorker' object has no attribute 'baudrate'

No clue what that means Maybe you know Glasswalker?

264  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Quad XC6SLX150 Board - Initial Price £400/$640/520€ on: July 25, 2012, 09:15:06 PM
Cairnsmore controller for Glasswalker2 build is noe available on http://www.enterpoint.co.uk/cairnsmore/cairnsmore1_support_materials.html. This is only for the Glasswalker build and won't work with any other bitstream. Currently only properly supporting 3 FPGAs with 4th running very poorly. Expect a U of about 7.5 from what we have seen and power usage less than 30W.





Where do we get the bitstream itself? or are you posting it later? I see the controller, but no bitstream in the zip.

Thanks,

Doff
265  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Quad XC6SLX150 Board - Initial Price £400/$640/520€ on: July 16, 2012, 09:51:56 PM
Better yet, how about switching the priority to MPBM?

Which was intended from the beginning to be FPGA rather than GPU oriented.

We will look at other options but we don't really want to do that in a hurry unless we can't solve the CGminer? issues. To do so could open up a pile more of support issues to deal with and that would slow progress on all the new things we are working on and want to bring for you all to use. I think we will try CGminer 3.5.0 first and see where that takes us.

I think he meant 2.4.3, and 2.5.0 the current release on the cgminer thread is 2.5.0.
266  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Quad XC6SLX150 Board - Initial Price £400/$640/520€ on: July 16, 2012, 06:27:40 PM
Ive been using Cgminer 2.5.0 for the last 3 days and have had a consistent 2.6 U on each fpga for the last 3 days without interruption. ...

Uh, what does that statement actually mean, please?

There are four FPGAs on the board. Are you getting 10.4 U (cgminer U) per board? Or are you getting 2.6 U per board? Or some other permutation?

Im getting 5.2 U combined on ave for the Twin_test Bitstream which is about = to 1 Icarus board. In Cgminer it would look like 2 Icarus units running at 2.6 U. Thats about the best you get currently for 1 Cairnsmore until they get their Bitstream out to us.
267  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Quad XC6SLX150 Board - Initial Price £400/$640/520€ on: July 16, 2012, 06:13:34 PM
Possible CGminer Bug


We have got an intermittant internet today and we are having short periods when basically data isn't pass and we get timeouts. We have seen that in our big mining test reg, running on the same internet connection, that after such an outage that CGminer (V2.3.4) appears to stop scheduling work correctly to some or all of the stack of boards. It does continue to intermittantly schedule work and is not a total stoppage but hash rates appear to fall to less that half that expected. This does appear to be a  problem that a number of rig, and in particularly the bigger ones, are reporting. Once this happens there doen't seen to be any way to recover CGminer other than a complete restart.


Yohan,

you're using an "old" version of cgminer, please build one of the lastest 2.4.x or even 2.5.0 (I'm not sure 2.5.0 is as stable as 2.4.x) but 2.4.3 as a minimum version.

See also https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=78239.msg968533#msg968533

I'm using 2.4.3 (though on linux and with not so many boards) and I've never had the problem you're reporting.

spiccioli


Ive been using Cgminer 2.5.0 for the last 3 days and have had a consistent 2.6 U on each fpga for the last 3 days without interruption. I was having a problem with 2.4.3 where my Actual Icarus unit would shut off after about 12 hours, 2.5.0 seemed to fix that as well.
268  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Quad XC6SLX150 Board - Initial Price £400/$640/520€ on: July 16, 2012, 06:00:35 PM
Will there be any plan to work with the Con, or Kano to get the Cairnsmore supported in Cgminer instead of it showing as an icarus unit? I'm a bit against the Modular miner mainly because it seems like its not being worked on as much anymore. It would be nice if it showed up as a Cairnsmore in Cgminer and was specifically supported for the new bitstream.
269  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Quad XC6SLX150 Board - Initial Price £400/$640/520€ on: July 10, 2012, 08:53:35 PM
Ok, that clarifies it, thank you Yohan.
270  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Quad XC6SLX150 Board - Initial Price £400/$640/520€ on: July 10, 2012, 08:31:20 PM
All I need to know is if I have the  unmarked SW's  correct when programing the controller. SW 1 and 6 are marked, if you could quickly tell me if they are all on or all off for SW,2, 3, 4, and 5 I would be set.

Or if someone has successfully updated theirs could tell what position they had theirs in that would help too. The board we suspect is broken anyhow always stated the update was successful although I have my doubts.
Twin_test bitstream running settings on the swiches not indicated in the picture worked for me.

So you had SW 2, 3, 4, and 5 set to on?
271  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Quad XC6SLX150 Board - Initial Price £400/$640/520€ on: July 10, 2012, 08:21:01 PM
All I need to know is if I have the  unmarked SW's  correct when programing the controller. SW 1 and 6 are marked, if you could quickly tell me if they are all on or all off for SW,2, 3, 4, and 5 I would be set.

Or if someone has successfully updated theirs could tell what position they had theirs in that would help too. The board we suspect is broken anyhow always stated the update was successful although I have my doubts.
272  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Quad XC6SLX150 Board - Initial Price £400/$640/520€ on: July 09, 2012, 06:10:39 PM

Yohan,

could you maybe provide some information about the changes this controller update contains? When you say it is for the underperforming devices, does this include those that do not generate valid shares at all and/or those failing the golden nonce test?

I'd need to setup a Windows machine (VM is too unstable for that) for programming the controller and I'd at least need to know that it has some potential improvement for the failures I see most.


Thanks, Zefir

Ok we don't know if this will fully fixes all problems because as yet we don't setups here that show the same problems some of you have and that is why we need work on each problem individually. We do need each board that you have a problem with to be reported to the bitcoin support email with the full circumstances. Not everyone on the team has the time to wade through the forum and they don't unless they stop work on new features or support work so that means problems can be missed. I will try to patch the gaps but I also have a limit in what I can find time to do. It's much better if the information arrives at the correct place and several people get to see it. It also acts as a log we can go back through then also.

Ok what we do know is that this build appears to improve the clocking at 100MHz i.e. that used for the Twin build. We do have some more tests to check this out and that is why it is beta. What we don't know is whether the clocking is the problem failure of the golden nonce test. I wasn't aware of that issue and that is much more likely to be a setup, software or firmware issue. We think that the FPGA DCMs lose lock sometimes and we already have fixes for this also in the working FPGA end which will be available in our own bitstream design that we can't do to the Twin which basically isn't our design.

We also think a few rigs may be suffering from power surge issues particularly at start up. This a problem in several parts including the host power supply quality, wiring quality, and even the Cairnsmore1 itself. This might explain some of the USBs not enumerating but there are also other possibilities for that including faulty USB cables that we did have a few problem ones of. Rev 1.2 has power startup sequencing so that we power each of the 4 power sections in a sequence over 4 seconds and that switch on sequence will be very obvious when you power the boards. This softens the surge on the board and we will extend this rig wide when the up/down becomes functional. One the things that is different with Cairnsmore1 is that there are several large rigs using Cairnsmore1 the size of which have not been seen before in Bitcoin mining. These bring new design challenges in things like power and cooling and we have designed Cairnsmore1 to cope with these extra challenges. Cairnsmore2 when we do that will take the concept to a much bigger level again.

We have also phased on board clocks in the new controller build to reduce "beat" cycles on the power supply. Every FPGA doing exactly the same thing at the same time is a very good way to cause beat surges on the PSU so if we can move those slightly apart then that is good thing to do and make life easier for the power supply.




Can you clarify the directions on the loader.pdf for the controller switch positions when programming the controller?  I can clearly see SW1, and SW6 Directions however, I just assumed that SW 2, 3, 4, and 5 were all off., is that correct?

I tried the update on the broken board but same results with it not being able to mine.

Wrong For the Controller I don't thing you need to change dip switches from normal settings but I will check that.

Look in document xc3s50an_loader_v1.1.bit that is in the zip for the 1.1 update for the dip switch settings.



Ok, now I'm even more confused, that's exactly where I got the info from. The problem with the loader PDF document in that zip is it doesn't show you what SW  2, 3, 4, and 5 are supposed to be set to, so I assumed they should all be off. Maybe that's why I never got the last one working.

Can you look at that document and make give me the exact switch settings for the controller update? Id like to try one more time on the broken board. I'm going to drop it off for shipment back to you guys tomorrow as well.

Also I'm using Linux currently and the new board you sent seems to be working great with the FTDI drivers and Cgminer 2.4.3 without any modifications.

Thanks,

Doff
273  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Quad XC6SLX150 Board - Initial Price £400/$640/520€ on: July 09, 2012, 12:04:47 AM
An update (Rev 1.2) to the controller is available on http://www.enterpoint.co.uk/cairnsmore/cairnsmore1_support_materials.html. I would not update your board to this unless you have a unit that is underperforming with the twin bitstream. As with all controller updates please be careful that you understand the instructions (Rev 1.1 update) fully before starting and ensure that your power is unlikely to be interrupted. If a controller update goes wrong it is likely that a programming cable will be necessary to perform a unit recovery but do take note of the first line recovery method if first attempt goes wrong another go is possible if unit remains powered.

We will do some more testing and work on the controller this week and there may be further updates.

Whatever revision 1.2+ we reach in the next few days will remain available to support 3rd party bitstream providers longterm but is then likely to be frozen when our own original bitstream becomes available. At this point the controller get a major update to Rev 2.0 signifying the major changes in functionality and all development will be on this branch.

Can you clarify the directions on the loader.pdf for the controller switch positions when programming the controller?  I can clearly see SW1, and SW6 Directions however, I just assumed that SW 2, 3, 4, and 5 were all off., is that correct?

I tried the update on the broken board but same results with it not being able to mine.
274  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Quad XC6SLX150 Board - Initial Price £400/$640/520€ on: July 06, 2012, 04:14:23 PM
I can not believe that the differences are so great with 50 boards. Enterpoint stated that the problem is the controller firmware but why these differences?
Most probably it is a controller issue, or it could even be on SW side and solvable with cgminer updates.

Since boards were tested in shipping-test mode at Enterpoint before delivery, I should re-program my batch and repeat the test. But since this will eat up one additional weekend, I prefer to wait for a better bitstream (hoping for the next week).


Crap I hope my 23 boards work when they arrive. On the other hand I'm sure enterpoint will take back the non working boards and send you new ones.
I guess only those 3 boards that fail to get detected might need to be RMAd, while all the other should be fixable with new FW. No doubt defunct units will get replaced, like already happened in this thread.


Can you send as much information into the bitcoin support email so that everyone relevant gets to see the problem. Outside what's already been mentioned on the forum, and thanks to all that have already forwarded into our support, we have not had any reports like this come in. So as yet we don't have a big statistical base to work on. We also haven't had a faulty unit arrive back to us yet to analyse. One I think is on it's way. So bear with us for a few days whilst we get enough information to give us a clue where to look. Probably the first thing to do is to try and create a model setup as similar to Zefir's as we can. We do think there is more than one aspect here and elements of software and firmware are probably the main place to look. However we can't rule out a hardware failure so that also needs to be part of the analysis. From what we have seen here on the line USB failures are very low and all down real identifable things like solder shorts.





I'm sending mine back as soon as I can, I just got the email today with the information to get that going. Id love to know what was wrong with it as well, since it will find 1-2 shares then stop hashing altogether. Ive tried everything and reprogrammed it a good 50 times with no luck.

The new one you sent me has been working at 370mhash for the last 3 nights without any problems. Thats running on the latest cgminer in Linux.

Doff
275  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Quad XC6SLX150 Board - Initial Price £400/$640/520€ on: July 04, 2012, 01:19:20 AM
Hashing away at full twin_test speeds with the replacement board Enterpoint sent. Thank you very much that was truly an amazing turnaround and terrific customer service.

I'm very happy with the board and patiently waiting for any new bitstream updates.

Thanks again,

Doff
276  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Quad XC6SLX150 Board - Initial Price £400/$640/520€ on: June 30, 2012, 06:38:36 PM
Ok at this point I'm just completely frustrated. I re-flashed the controller update just in case, then tried adding the twin test to SPI a few time, it works just fine. Then I go to mine and it finds one share and dies.

Only p0 works anyhow, p3 just errors out in Cgminer, so only 1 FPGA is even attempting to hash. Ive tried the switch 6 on and off trick and it does nothing for me unfortunately.

The question is how to I go back to the shipping_test.bit when I try to change it to load it to spi it errors out each time with verify failure.

Ok I think we should send you out another unit pre-loaded with the twin bitstream and latest controller for you to try and we will retest your existing unit. It's more likely to be a software issue than hardware but let's eliminate as much as we can by the hardware re-test.

Wow, yes that would be great. I really wasn't angry with the Hardware, I was I guess more just frustrated that everyone else was having some success with the twin bitstream and mine well just doesn't seem to like it Smiley

I'm sure its just software as well, but since I don't have the full picture I just don't know what else try.

Do I need to resend any of my info to you for that, or are you all set?

Thank you for the awesome customer service Yohan.


You are nearly in Canada if I pulled up the right record. If I am wrong let me know. Hopefully we can get it there for Tuesday.

But let's work out what the problem is. No point being frustrated if we can do something about it. It might be that you have a board that has a real fault. It is very unusual for one of our standard boards to fail in the field having been though one of our tests. I think it's about 2-3 boards in the last 9 years but it's still always a possibility.

We are still at the stage of being bit of rough and ready in terms of documentation, software and bitstreams and we will do our best to get you all past that bit as fast as we can. Hopefully this coming week will see the next major step forward and we will meet at least some of the expectations out there.

I am nearly finshed the document that will hopefully make this simplier for Windows users and that will have dip switch settings. 90% of that will still be useful to you as a Linux user so you could try and follow that. It some be available tonight or early tomorrow. I will have some more dip switch setting pictures that I am doing for that now and I will try and post those here shortly as a short term help.

Yeah, I'm not to far from the Canadian border, so that sounds correct.

Ive tried programing with the exact settings you have listed as well with no Luck maybe I did get the 1 off board. Ive spent a few hours on it this morning and decided to put it aside, I may give it a go later but I don't think its going to change much.

Thank you again for the prompt response.

Doff
277  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Quad XC6SLX150 Board - Initial Price £400/$640/520€ on: June 30, 2012, 05:32:46 PM
One thing I have noticed Yohan when I program the Twin test my SW 3-4 seem to have the wrong program on them. The reason I say this is because one stays on with a blue/red/amber light on the whole time and the other just has amber/red, no clue what they should be. If I could somehow get the right program on those switches it may save you the trouble of shipping a new unit.
278  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Quad XC6SLX150 Board - Initial Price £400/$640/520€ on: June 30, 2012, 05:22:24 PM
Ok at this point I'm just completely frustrated. I re-flashed the controller update just in case, then tried adding the twin test to SPI a few time, it works just fine. Then I go to mine and it finds one share and dies.

Only p0 works anyhow, p3 just errors out in Cgminer, so only 1 FPGA is even attempting to hash. Ive tried the switch 6 on and off trick and it does nothing for me unfortunately.

The question is how to I go back to the shipping_test.bit when I try to change it to load it to spi it errors out each time with verify failure.

Ok I think we should send you out another unit pre-loaded with the twin bitstream and latest controller for you to try and we will retest your existing unit. It's more likely to be a software issue than hardware but let's eliminate as much as we can by the hardware re-test.

Wow, yes that would be great. I really wasn't angry with the Hardware, I was I guess more just frustrated that everyone else was having some success with the twin bitstream and mine well just doesn't seem to like it Smiley

I'm sure its just software as well, but since I don't have the full picture I just don't know what else try.

Do I need to resend any of my info to you for that, or are you all set?

Thank you for the awesome customer service Yohan.
279  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Quad XC6SLX150 Board - Initial Price £400/$640/520€ on: June 30, 2012, 04:17:16 PM
Ok at this point I'm just completely frustrated. I re-flashed the controller update just in case, then tried adding the twin test to SPI a few time, it works just fine. Then I go to mine and it finds one share and dies.

Only p0 works anyhow, p3 just errors out in Cgminer, so only 1 FPGA is even attempting to hash. Ive tried the switch 6 on and off trick and it does nothing for me unfortunately.

The question is how to I go back to the shipping_test.bit when I try to change it to load it to spi it errors out each time with verify failure.
280  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Quad XC6SLX150 Board - Initial Price £400/$640/520€ on: June 30, 2012, 03:32:29 PM
... I'm guessing this will load the SPI with the twin_flash.bit? So it won't need to be reprogrammed everytime I power off.

Yep! And it's working  Cheesy

ebereon if you get that error where it cuts out after about 14 hours you might look at BFGminer, its a fork of cgminer and in his patch notes a while back it mentioned fixing that error in his build of cgminer. So it may have nothing to do with the cairnsmore programing.
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