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261  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Chess + Crypto on: April 03, 2014, 01:26:41 PM
* 6) Mining is based on proving you played a unique chess game, (proof-of-play?).

[...], and maybe through mining we can solve the chess game-tree. Estimated at roughly 10^123.
I'm not sure what you're aiming for. Getting a computer to enumerate possible chess games isn't hard; the problem is that there are so many of them. In particular, to prove that a given game is unique will, in general, require storing all the previous unique games, which will be prohibitively expensive.

If you are aiming for a proof-of-work scheme that involves humans doing the work, then that's quite an interesting idea, but chess isn't suitable because computers can do it better than humans can. Also, to resolve conflicts in a distributable system, you need a way to measure which block-chain has the largest proof-of-work, which means assessing how much effort went into the chess games.

As an aside, in John Varley's Titan SF trilogy, long-distance communication is done by singing to a special plant, that will relay the song to distant plants that will also sing it, provided the plants consider the song to be beautiful enough to repeat. With those plants you could maybe create a crypto-currency based around proof-of-beauty, that would be hard to forge because creating beauty is hard.
262  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin's 21million total coin supply hinders it immensely on: April 03, 2014, 01:09:44 PM
simply put, on a rarity scale compared to gold. 1 bitcoin is the equivalent to roughly £200k/$300k (rounded numbers so don't knit-pick)
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which makes it harder to transmit under 20p (30c).
Doesn't that valuation mean 1 satoshi is worth £2*10^5 / 1*10^8 = £2*10^-3, or £0.002 or 0.2p ? I think you missed a factor of 100.

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so i agree "Bitcoin's 21million total coin supply hinders it immensely"
If it becomes a problem, a soft-fork can add more precision. (There are 12 spare bits due to the 21 million BTC limit being smaller than what will fit in a 64-bit integer, and we can add more bits if we have to.)

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when £1 ($1.50) is worth 5sat due to being as widely or more accepted than gold, we would be talking about decades not weeks. and at that time 1 loaf of bread, 2 litres of milk will cost in fiat terms over £$10 due to government fit printing (inflation), making under 20p/30c fiat amounts useless where nothing can be bought that cheap.
Inflation of fiat is irrelevant here. If a loaf of bread cost 2 satoshi, that would be a problem for Bitcoin even if 2 satoshi happened to be £500.
263  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [poll] Longest most impressive VANITY on: April 02, 2014, 07:45:02 PM
I own 1BrangfWu2YGJ8W6xNM7u66K4YNj2mie3t. Only 5 letters because it was generated on my offline machine, which is very slow and has no GPU. I'm not going to bother proving I own it.
264  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: So BIP-38 Encrypted Paper Wallet = Most Secure? on: April 02, 2014, 07:32:51 PM
Just wanted to add, the same thing would apply to a 2nd Cold offline computer right?

1) Install Bitcoin on your future cold computer
2) Generate a wallet/address on your future cold computer
3) Disconnect your computer from the internet and keep it disconnected permanently.
4) Using Blockchain, your Hot Computer, or whatever computer that has funds, send Bitcoins to your cold computer's address
5) Check/Watch the balance on the blockchain to see that you have the funds on the new address for your cold computer
You can install wallet software from a USB drive, so there's no need for the cold computer to ever be connected to the internet. Buy a cheap laptop, format it, install a free Linux-based O/S from USB, install Armory from USB, create a wallet, export it as a "watching" wallet (ie, without private keys), import it into a wallet on a second, online, computer. You can check the balance from the online computer. There's no need to use Blockchain.

You can even spend the funds without the offline computer going online. You have the online computer generate unsigned transactions, move them across the air gap to the offline computer, sign them there, move the transactions back, publish them from the online computer. Armory generates new addresses in a deterministic way, so you avoid reusing addresses and the offline wallet still only needs to be backed up once.

This is what Armory is all about.

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6) Encrypt the cold computer wallet, make backups flash drives/paper copies with BIP-38, and/or hide the computer for more security
I'm not sure what BIP-38 gains you in this scenario, over just encrypting the wallet and then making copies of that. I trust my encryption enough to store a copy on DropBox.

Of course you have to make sure your heirs can get the necessary passphrase after your death, but nowadays most of us have a lot of passphrases so this is nothing new or special. I use a password manager. If my heir can get into that, they can find all the others, and the procedure can be documented once in my will.
265  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Ecology and Bitcoin: Is Bitcoin green ? on: April 02, 2014, 07:12:09 PM
I agree that Primecoin is not the answer.

I'm not sure that power spent on mining altcoins would be better spent on mining Bitcoin. I suspect that switching wouldn't benefit Bitcoin significantly. More important is whether the altcoin has any social value. If it doesn't, and is just a ponzi scheme, then that's the reason not to mine it, and the power argument doesn't matter.

I suspect the real answer is proof-of-stake. Sure, the value of Bitcoin is such that we can justify the resources of mining it, but a good POS altcoin could have the same value and be hugely cheaper to mine.
266  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Sexy Question on: April 02, 2014, 06:55:04 PM
Prostitution is illegal
Not in the UK. Lots of activities around it are illegal, such as kerb-crawling and soliciting. The law is mostly geared around protecting women from being forced into prostitution, and protecting non-prostitutes from being hassled, and protection of minors. (It's not always ideal for achieving those goals.)

As an aside, one problem with Bitcoin for websites is that it doesn't have a good subscription model. There isn't infrastructure to make monthly recurring payments.
267  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Africa - promised land of Bitcoin? on: April 02, 2014, 06:42:08 PM
I thought my statement was pretty clear, but to clarify - the people of africa benefits if they adapt bitcoin as a currency, but bitcoin benefits very little from adaption in africa, for the simple fact they just dont matter in the big picture of the world economy. Not to be mean, just stating the obvious.
There would be benefits in PR. It would make for better media stories than the Silk Road did. Also, it would create a market for Bitcoin-related services and a proving-ground for Bitcoin-related technologies.

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USA, China, and EU is what matters to bitcoins.
Those are the countries that need Bitcoin least, where it is likely to be least important, because they already have a good financial infrastructure.
268  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Could WalMart go for a cryptocurrency. on: April 01, 2014, 07:50:58 AM
Which begs the question...do people want Walmart to start accepting Bitcoin so that they can start spending their bitcoin there?

Or do they want this just so the price will go up?
I want to reach the tipping point where a company can use bitcoin to pay its suppliers and employees. I see that as meaning lots of places taking bitcoin transparently, rather than going through a third party like Gyft.

I have some coin so I will benefit from the price going up, but I also believe in Bitcoin and want it to be available for me to use in future; it's not just a stock investment.
269  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Why a fixed transaction fee? on: March 31, 2014, 08:35:18 PM
Thus my question: why a fixed transaction fee? Shouldn't it at least scale up with the actual sum you're sending?
No. I'm sorry to be the one to break it to you, but Bitcoin is not designed for micro-transactions. The minimum fee is deliberate policy to stop people using Bitcoin to send trifling amounts. They are seen as spam at best, and a denial of service attack at worst. If it were possible to sent 0.00000001 BTC with a 0.00000001 fee, then some villain could broadcast millions of them for almost no dollar cost, and then they'd clog the block-chain forever.

(There are ways to use Bitcoin for micro-transactions, but they are built on top of the raw protocol. They are supposed to use block-chain space efficiently.)

As it happens, the fee does scale, but in accord with the size (in bytes) rather than the value. See the Bitcoin Wiki for details.
270  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Can't send to multiple addresses on: March 31, 2014, 08:15:42 PM
I just failed to send some coin to three addresses. It got as far as asking for my password, but when I clicked Unlock it returned to the "Sending from Wallet" dialog. There was no error message. I'm pretty sure I had the right password (and if I hadn't, I'd expect a helpful error message saying as much). I tried again after deleting the last address, and that failed the same way. I then deleted another address, so that only one was left, and that succeeded as expected.

(This was all on my desktop; no offline signing shenanigans involved.)
271  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: [BOUNTY] Help test next major release of Armory! [0.01 BTC per bug!] on: March 31, 2014, 07:01:23 PM
Can you try clicking on "Download Info" and copy the URL into your browser and see if it downloads it?
That downloaded OK. That URL seems to be the same as in the first post in the download thread.

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Package Information
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Download information for <b>ArmoryTesting version 0.90.99.5:</b> <br> <ul> <li><u><b>Operating System</b></u>:</li> <ul> <li>Windows 8 64-bit</li> </ul> <li><u><b>Installer Filename</b></u>:</li> <ul> <li>armory_0.90.99.5-testing_winAll.exe</li> </ul> <li><u><b>Download URL</b></u>:</li> <ul> <li>https://s3.amazonaws.com/bitcoinarmory-testing/armory_0.90.99.5-testing_winAll.exe</li> </ul> <li><u><b>Verified sha256sum</b></u>:</li> <ul> <li>9b5a76cdb28b7cb8f5bd3446646f018d30394994330a995fd979db9b4e72c1bc</li> </ul> </ul>
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272  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Review Offline Transaction on: March 31, 2014, 06:51:00 PM
Should "Review Offline Transaction" show more information?

I've now created an offline wallet, sent some coins to it, created a transaction on my desktop, signed it with the offline machine, and broadcast it with the online machine. It all seems to work OK. However, I noticed that the dialog to review the transaction before signing or broadcasting seems to be missing information. There's nothing for the "Wallet:" or even the "Transaction Amount:", although those should surely be known. Also, clicking for "more information about this transaction" did nothing. The dialog after "Sign" or "Broadcast" did show some information, including the transaction amount.

273  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: [BOUNTY] Help test next major release of Armory! [0.01 BTC per bug!] on: March 31, 2014, 06:35:01 PM
Not sure what's up with the download links.  I just tested it on my system and can download Windows installers fine.  Can you make sure you have the latest announcments by clicking the "Check for Updates" button on the "Announcements" tab?
Yep. "Check for Updates" says they are up to date, but Secure Downloader still says "There was a failure downloading this file: 0" when I try "Armory testing (unstable)"

Also I note there are no release notes for it.
274  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: [BOUNTY] Help test next major release of Armory! [0.01 BTC per bug!] on: March 31, 2014, 03:59:26 PM
(1) The scroll bars on the dashboard message have a problem. When I try to scroll down, it jumps back up. I think it wants to keep the "Armory is offline" message visible at the top.

This is on WinXP - it installs and works there now. My screen on that machine is only 600 pixels high, so without the scroll bars I can't read the rest of the message. My Win8.1 install doesn't have this issue, not even if I make the Dashboard window small. However, it is online, so it's displaying a different message.

(2) My Win8.1 Armory thinks it is online despite not having an internet connection - is that correct? It is running Bitcoin Core and has synchronised blocks etc, but won't be seeing new transactions and probably won't be broadcasting them either, because I've disabled my network adaptor. I can't access Google. I guess that the internet part is done by Bitcoin Core, so Armory doesn't know its status, but it's a bit confusing to be told it is online when it isn't.
275  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: [BOUNTY] Help test next major release of Armory! [0.01 BTC per bug!] on: March 31, 2014, 02:59:00 PM
It was actually a bad filename.  I just updated the post on the testing thread with the correct link.
It's also wrong in the Secure Downloader for Windows, I think.

I got an announcement in Armory itself, which led to the Help/Update Armory dialog. 0.90.99.5 is listed for WinXP, Vista, Win7 and Win8, both 32-bit and 64-bit, but none of them actually work. It's not listed at all for Win8.1.

Edit: I've now downloaded manually from the link. I notice that the installer defaulted to C:, rather than the location I the previous Armory is at, which is D:. Is that intentional?
276  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Bitcoin Is Property Not Currency on: March 30, 2014, 02:04:59 PM
Get receipts for your face to face transactions. Problem solved.
If you spend some coin face to face and don't have a receipt, and instead you set the value from what the main bitcoin exchanges were using as the rate, would the IRS accept that? If you got, and reported, a higher value, wouldn't the IRS be even less likely to dispute it?
277  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 'Manic miner' aims to mine 10 percent of all bitcoins on: March 30, 2014, 01:44:04 PM
So he gets 360 bitcoins a day that don't seem right?
Why not? The maths seems right. Morally, he risked $5m of his money, so deserves some reward.
278  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A question on "double spend race attacks" on: March 30, 2014, 01:37:39 PM
Currently 10% of the network would require 4,000 TH/s, and with modern rigs, you would pay around $3000 per TH/s.   Evil miner would need $12 million of equipment to provide this service if I did my math right. 
The rig should pay for itself in honest transaction fees and block rewards. Revenue from dishonest double-spending attempts would be a bonus.

The miner risks getting a reputation for dishonesty. I don't know what the consequences of that would be. Do miners get blacklisted?

As for $12m, that figure appears to be in the right ballpark. This Ars Technica article talks of a rig costing $3-5m that has around 5.6%. He reckons it has paid for itself many times over. I'm guessing he, personally, would not approve of his gear being used for dishonest transactions, but I suppose he might eventually have company employees junior enough to be bribed or coerced into it, yet senior enough to get it done. The main problem is that it's not worth it for a few low-value transactions, and high-value ones can usually wait for confirmations and/or know their customers.

Getting 51% would only cost $60m, so it's within reach for a great many people and institutions.
279  Other / Politics & Society / Re: VISA & MASTERCARD blocked Russians from accessing their money on: March 30, 2014, 12:16:51 PM
It would be logical to assume that Visa/MasterCard are against Bitcoin because is it a competing payment system that would cut into their profits.   They are going to fight it, or find a way to adapt and live with it, such as proving bitcoin to Visa/MasterCard gateways.
At least some of the value they offer comes from consumer protection. The charge-backs that vendors hate are beneficial to customers, and since it is customers who have the money there may well still be a market for credit card-like consumer protection in Bitcoin.
280  Bitcoin / Armory / Re: Please Help Test Armory 0.91-beta! on: March 30, 2014, 12:10:37 PM
Still cleaning up a few things with this build, but will have 0.90.99.5 soon.  Will also add a bug bounty to it!  Besides OSX, we've had pretty solid feedback about this version, so we're pretty excited that this might be the last testing version before release!
Besides OSX and WinXP.

Sorry to go on about it, and I may be the only tester planning to use XP, but the original post listed WinXP support as one of the bolded new features. I hope someone checks that 0.90.99.5 at least runs up on it. Running a cold storage wallet on a cheap, low-end notebook is a valuable feature for Armory, and XP is often the only version of Windows those machines can handle.
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