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261  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 1st POS Masternodes | Dark Assets | I2P | Market =Embrace The Dark= on: June 16, 2015, 12:41:33 PM
Still can't sync the wallet either, plus I don't want to download some possibly tampered blockchain data from someone.

Can't import bootstrap.dat either.

Hoping for fix soon.
262  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SLING | Fully Working DECENTRALIZED MARKET in Wallet | SLINGROAD LIVE on: June 16, 2015, 04:28:28 AM
Good to see some suggestions coming in for rebranding / renaming, not sure there is anything that sticks so far, i.e I think there are some better names or themes we could come up with.

I was looking into a way to allow for all image extensions to be allowed for our market but it might not be the best thing to prioritise, atm it will allow .pngs which should be fine.

Perhaps I'll look at setting up static / fixed categories unless there are other things that people think are more important.

Outside actual development I think it's a case of us needing some nice branding and a gradual but consistent marketing effort.




The categories might be nice,  marketing would help..  
I hope some other people come up with some logo's / graphics for rebranding ideas, and maybe we could vote on something?




263  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SLING | Fully Working DECENTRALIZED MARKET in Wallet | SLINGROAD LIVE on: June 15, 2015, 10:53:05 PM
Good to see some suggestions coming in for rebranding / renaming, not sure there is anything that sticks so far, i.e I think there are some better names or themes we could come up with.

I was looking into a way to allow for all image extensions to be allowed for our market but it might not be the best thing to prioritise, atm it will allow .pngs which should be fine.

Perhaps I'll look at setting up static / fixed categories unless there are other things that people think are more important.

Outside actual development I think it's a case of us needing some nice branding and a gradual but consistent marketing effort.



Thanks for the update..!!
I'm just using SYN for now in my signature because I like it, but will change to whatever you guys want !

I think coins with a "touch of dark" or a hint of a dark theme, tend to do a little better Wink

Wow someone sold off 30k+  coins..  maybe some cheaper prices soon!

264  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A major flaw with Bitcoin on: June 15, 2015, 05:00:24 PM
Hmm.. my bank account balance and statements don't smell either.

Neither does my credit card (well a little like plastic but not much.)

Those seem to survive
265  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: FIRST EVER GALLERY EXHIBITION TO ACCEPT BITCOIN! on: June 15, 2015, 04:10:32 PM
Great idea,  have fun with the exhibition!
266  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: OpenBazaar - decentralized eBay on: June 15, 2015, 04:06:25 PM
Arbiters... blehhh

2 Party escrow is working just fine with the network being the trusting point.

267  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: anyone read this article: The scam called Bitcoin? on: June 15, 2015, 04:04:13 PM
In my opinion its a commodity like precious metals. 

Not really a stock, because there is no central company.

The article isn't that great.

268  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 1st POS Masternodes | Dark Assets | I2P | Market =Embrace The Dark= on: June 15, 2015, 03:40:45 AM
These were reasons another coin didn't want to choose 3rd party:

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Choice of Two Party Escrow
To appreciate the value of the two party escrow system and why it is so important for secure, private and middle men free exchange, it is worth considering problems with the traditional approach of using a 3rd party escrow agent.

In a third party escrow system the buyer and seller ask a third trusted party (an escrow agent) to receive payment from the buyer before the item is delivered and to then release the payment to the seller after the item is delivered. If there is a dispute about the quality of the item or whether it was delivered, the third party acts as a mediator and decides whether to send the payment or refund the buyer. Some of the problems with this model include:

  •    Unless escrow agent receives the item before forwarding it to the buyer and has the expertise to verify the quality of the item, they have no means of fairly mediating a dispute. This problem becomes much worse when services are being exchanged. Proof of package delivery doesn't verify what was delivered or it's quality and photos from the buyer could be of another item, etc.
  •    Credit cards and centralized marketplaces seem like existence proofs of working escrow agents but they are non-anonymous, do not resolve disputes fairly (as most small merchants can tell you) and are known to break in markets with high fraud potential (e.g. third world countries, porn, etc).
  •    Untrustworthy escrow agents who may steal escrow, fail to release escrow or collude with (or be) one of the parties.
  •    Escrow agents with strong reputation may be doing a long con to take off with or extort a large payment or group of payments.
  •    Escrow agent expenses in the form of labor and risk are passed on to the buyer and seller.
  •    Finding a trustworthy agent requires a reputation system and building reputation systems in anonymous networks remains an unsolved problem.

Fortunately, two party escrow made possible by (another coin) multi-signature transactions can solve all of these problems.

It does bring up another point I forgot,  what if the marketplace owner is also the seller (pretending to be separate parties!) ... hmm that would not be good.
I guess, I just agree with most of those reasons.  
I think some of those same things *could*, in different ways, happen also in a 2 party system though.

Just my opinions... I own both coins so whatever turns out to be more popular is fine with me.



269  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 1st POS Masternodes | Dark Assets | I2P | Market =Embrace The Dark= on: June 15, 2015, 03:25:39 AM

Anyway I'm not worried as much because I believe ICM said in his system there will be no instances of a marketplace owner having access to the cash where he can just run off with the reserves. I think they just handle disputes and collect a fee after.

Yeah, but if a SELLER AND MARKETPLACE OWNER collude,  then they can take your money.  
Plus if they have known reputation - again in the long run - they can scam a lot of people!

I get the feeling some of you don't understand how long cons work.

Problem is, this could happen in a 2 party system too.. so I guess any system is not 100% foolproof.



270  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 1st POS Masternodes | Dark Assets | I2P | Market =Embrace The Dark= on: June 15, 2015, 01:58:38 AM
I like your screenshots !  Nice  Grin

271  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 1st POS Masternodes | Dark Assets | I2P | Market =Embrace The Dark= on: June 14, 2015, 10:22:51 PM
The updates sound good,  I still don't like 3 party escrow but I guess I could live with it
- you don't need a human 3rd party when you can have a trustless system controlling (multi-sig escrow & network can be "3rd party".)   Undecided



Well, what is the backup plan than? For example, the shipped item is damaged, used but listed as non-used etc. Who's gonna save the buyers ass?


In a two party trustless system it works like this:
If the buyer does not receive the good/service or finds them unsatisfactory, they can request a refund from the seller. The refund request constructs a transaction which sends the deposits to their respective parties but returns the payment to the buyer. If the seller approves the refund, the transaction is completed in a similar process to how the escrow was locked.

The seller would have no motivation to rip off the buyer and hurt his ratings.  

A 3 party, human reliant system can set up people for long cons and other scams when sellers and the 3rd party collude.



That's funny. Why would a vendor or a market would want to crush his ratings in 3rd party system? I would request a payback and simply don't ship the item. Can computer solve my problem? No.

Have you ever heard of the "long con" ?   Certain names come to mind, like moolah.
Now that I think of it, this is also akin to how some eBay sellers with huge ratings will operate too.


272  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 1st POS Masternodes | Dark Assets | I2P | Market =Embrace The Dark= on: June 14, 2015, 10:14:48 PM
Any update on the fix for sync'ing the blockchain and/or importing a bootstrap.dat? 

Or do we still need to rely on downloading whole blockchain data that could be tampered with?


273  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 1st POS Masternodes | Dark Assets | I2P | Market =Embrace The Dark= on: June 14, 2015, 10:10:25 PM
Maybe in theory, but in practice 2 party just doesn't work that cleanly.

I think they both have flaws,  humans are subject to greed and error..  I don't necessarily trust that as a third party.

274  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 1st POS Masternodes | Dark Assets | I2P | Market =Embrace The Dark= on: June 14, 2015, 09:57:45 PM
The updates sound good,  I still don't like 3 party escrow but I guess I could live with it
- you don't need a human 3rd party when you can have a trustless system controlling (multi-sig escrow & network can be "3rd party".)   Undecided



Well, what is the backup plan than? For example, the shipped item is damaged, used but listed as non-used etc. Who's gonna save the buyers ass?


In a two party trustless system it works like this:
If the buyer does not receive the good/service or finds them unsatisfactory, they can request a refund from the seller. The refund request constructs a transaction which sends the deposits to their respective parties but returns the payment to the buyer. If the seller approves the refund, the transaction is completed in a similar process to how the escrow was locked.

The seller would have no motivation to rip off the buyer and hurt his ratings.  

A 3 party, human reliant system can set up people for long cons and other scams when sellers and the 3rd party collude.

275  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 1st POS Masternodes | Dark Assets | I2P | Market =Embrace The Dark= on: June 14, 2015, 09:38:14 PM
The updates sound good,  I still don't like 3 party escrow but I guess I could live with it
- you don't need a human 3rd party when you can have a trustless system controlling (multi-sig escrow & network can be "3rd party".)   Undecided

276  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 1st POS Masternodes | Dark Assets | I2P | Market =Embrace The Dark= on: June 14, 2015, 02:06:30 PM
Is that email @mycrave.org somehow protected or encrypted ?
Or just some plain email system?

277  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 1st POS Masternodes | Dark Assets | I2P | Market =Embrace The Dark= on: June 14, 2015, 03:22:14 AM

The Treasury Department suggested that the use of virtual currencies by criminals looking to launder illicit gains may serve as an example for terrorism funders. The report outlined how "the U.S. Secret Service has observed that criminals are looking for and finding virtual currencies that offer anonymity for both users and transactions".


They might as well ban their anonymous "cash" currency too !   Roll Eyes
278  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 1st POS Masternodes | Dark Assets | I2P | Market =Embrace The Dark= on: June 14, 2015, 03:17:23 AM
Someone told here how to connect using i2p few weeks ago.

Yeah, that was probably in a guide I quoted.. if I can find the post, I'll link it.
(Its actually very similar to connecting in the Sling guide - I actually quoted both guides from another coin's guide)

I wanted to know how many are actually connecting lol Smiley

279  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 1st POS Masternodes | Dark Assets | I2P | Market =Embrace The Dark= on: June 13, 2015, 09:50:00 PM
Are a bunch of you connected with I2P ?  
Just wondering if there are a lot of I2P connections so I can connect easy..  thanks.

Or is there some command that would list the amount of I2P connections?
280  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SLING | Fully Working DECENTRALIZED MARKET in Wallet | SLINGROAD LIVE on: June 12, 2015, 11:32:26 PM
Or something more generic...

        
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