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Yoda and Suzuki, I don't find it civil to troll official sale threads.
I understand your frustration, but this is not the place for degeneration into emotion.
We are men of means, cryptography and class.
Let a man's commerce flow fourth unperturbed.
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1. I do not think the theorized narrative that Smoothie is "too lazy to lookup an address" is a good narrative. It fails to understand the proposed technicalities involved.
2. I doubt the proposed $100 per address lookup paid to Smoothie would even raise an eyebrow. I don't consider his motives fueled by money. There is something more behind his efforts then solely the motivation for capital.
3. Security, security, security. One small leak sinks great ships. Breaking protocol a single time can often result in the collapse of an entire operation. In this case you are assuming he does not have in place some protocol or internal rule when it comes to public address distribution.
4. When going hyper private, hyper secure and securing other people's cyber currency. There is no room for error. Error results in the collapse of an entire empire.
Casasscius went public and did everything in the open, Smoothie went private and choose to do everything in secret.
Two different ways to address the same problem. Two different strategies to approach the secure storage of cyber money.
Neither is better than the other.
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I am very happy to announce that we have a scammer stealing our pictures and impersonating us on eBay (again). $3500 Cas coins are a scam for those who are curious. The scam works by getting you off eBay onto telegram. Once on telegram it generally goes downhill from there. This scammer I have dealt with in the past, he is rather convincing. If you want to lose your fiat and bitcoin, make sure to buy from eclipsepayments1.    The Cas the scammer is claiming to be selling is from a previous auction on the auction platform Scarce City.  |
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  Looking at the die design, I suddenly realized... yogg is the living embodiment of the soyjack meme. |
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Thanks for all your interesting ideas... It must be fun... I will do 40 coins at least. If we have less than 40 interested people, I or mj will keep the coins in a vault... or auction them later. A generous forum member offers us these nice holo for the "Scam Coin" serie 2.   Being able to access the original holos is another scam in itself. Makers generally guard their holos to the death. mint yogg's goofy bearded face in glimmering .999. |
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 "Smoothie, where is my full public address." |
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I will say this - getting the full address would be like getting the card number sure - but to get the pin - that would be like getting the private key and no one here is asking smoothie or the seller of any coin to give up the private key in addition to the address.
Exactly.. if he’s got the private keys to give out, we gonna have to get a new scam coin made! Backwards B’s galore 🤣 “Uh hello, is this Satoshi’s widow?” “Yes, who is this?” “I have all your late husbands public addys & I’d like the private keys so I can retire w/ a lot of hookers & coke” “You dunbass, his laptop is encrypted & you’ll never get the keys until quantum computing makes a major advance in the next decade or so. What do you think this is? A fuckin debit card scam operation?!” Full disk encryption can be cracked with plain old GPUs. We don't even need quantum for that |
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I will say this - getting the full address would be like getting the card number sure - but to get the pin - that would be like getting the private key and no one here is asking smoothie or the seller of any coin to give up the private key in addition to the address.
"Hello, can you please provide the corresponding private key for that public address" Just imagine the chaos. |
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There’s literally a thread on this board with 1,000’s of public addys. This particular thread is about finding Zuki’s addy for his paper weight & smoothie not giving a single fuck about his customers after the sale is made… errors at no charge!
Hello Smoothie Klaus?? 🤣
Ok, this is a funny way to put it. Haha.  |
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If I have the initial few digits to your debit card, should I be able to ring-up your issuing bank and retrieve the full number?
Teller: "Hello, my name is Amy from chase bank on a recorded line how may I help you today?"
Hacker: "Hello, I forgot the primary account number to my debit card, but I have the first few digits"
Teller: "Sure thing! Please just read off whatever you've got, and I will locate your account for you."
Hacker: "Fantastic! You are so helpful! The first few digits to my number are 3049... "
Teller: " I located your account no problem. Here is your full account number."
Hacker: "Real quick, before you go, can I please get the pin for that, I forgot that also"
Teller: "Sure thing!"
Real companies have real data privacy provisions. The situation I outlined above is outrageous, but it illustrates the same concept we are debating.
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I argue it is on the individual to secure his own full public keys.
Public keys are valuable pieces of data that must be stored properly by the new owner.
These are cryptographic technologies, to keep pace you need to develop proper infosec around them.
For example, what if I was a hacker who knows the first bits of your coins public key.
If I am able to contact the manufacturer and retrieve the full public key by impersonation it would void the security and confidentiality of the product.
Hackers could gain access to the full public keys of coins owned by individuals they were targeting to determine their funding status.
If someone stole a picture of one of my coins and contacted the manufacturer like "Hey, can you please give me the full public key of this coin. I lost the address a few years ago." And the manufacturer provided the full public key, it would be a breach in security.
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Bump.
Who was the last owner, do you know who you bought the coin from? |
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I have posted an auction for a set of 2016 LEALANA Monero (XMR) gilt set. I know it's held through the imperialistic auction platform eBay, but I have to list these for auction somewhere. Bids in fiat. instruments are in absolutely fantastic condition, should grade PCGS MS67 - MS69 (If desired). Auction ends Sunday, so mark your calendars. Interested parties may bid at their sole discretion here: https://www.ebay.com/itm/355056756897  |
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Absolutely ferocious bidding at the end there, thankyou everyone for your participation.
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I am in (if coins are still available)
thankyou
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I have initiated a three-day flash auction for an original 2013 .999 silver .10BTC PCGS LEALANA (bf). Serial 1807, primary bits 18SsVxa7. Widely considered to be one article of only 80 bf black variety in circulation since distribution at the end of 2013. Preoperationally secured and provisioned to be fully topped with the international cyber money bitcoin if so desired. Full public cryptographic key available upon victory, released from my private cyber repository. Impervious to hackers, cyber criminals and governments alike. Interested parties may bid at their sole discretion here: https://www.ebay.com/itm/355050579405 Instrument and holder are dually in impeccable and spotless condition. May the smartest prevail. 
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3% of the outstanding supply of the 2019 CRYPTO IMPERATOR Magic Internet Money Token has been added to the eclipse portfolio. PCGS authenticated and slabbed (never raw). Purchase here: https://www.eclipsepayments.com/product/Magic-Internet-MoneyDebit, credit as well as Gods' money (bitcoin) enabled.  Sameday shipping |
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