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261  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][KMD][dPoW] Komodo ICO - Zcash Zero Knowledge Privacy Secured by Bitcoin on: October 10, 2016, 11:54:24 AM
Did the dev team ever consider using Zcoin over Zcash?
you must be kidding.

why would we choose an obsolete 3 year old libzerocoin implementation that has significant bloat issues?

it would be like choosing an Intel 8080 CPU over Xeon

so no, never considered zcoin

I was thinking more of how parameter generation happens in both, I just read this comparison,

http://blog.zcoin.tech/zcoin-and-zcash/
You mean "Zcoin uses parameters generated 25 years ago from the RSA Factoring Challenge." those "secure" parameters??

If you would rather trust parameters generated by a single entity that has been caught putting backdoors into encryption, then that is your choice. Keep in mind that if anybody in the 25 years has gotten a hold of the RSA factoring parameters, it is compromised. What assurance is there that it hasnt been compromised?

As opposed to zcash which will use a carefully thought out parallel oblivious transfer method with a peer reviewed research paper where all participants need to be compromised.

We might as well compare zcash to ring signatures.

There is a lot of FUD against zcash parameters, but nobody has described to me how all the zcash parameter creation participants will be fooled into running the mystery laptop gift that just arrived in the mail. Or that they can all be bought. Or all their systems can be compromised.

It is not that any one of them can be compromised to compromise the parameters. ALL participants need to be compromised.

Good points, I'm still trying to get my mind around things. Which organisation created the Zcoin parameters 25 years ago? That is the key 'trust' point in Zcoin
262  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][KMD][dPoW] Komodo ICO - Zcash Zero Knowledge Privacy Secured by Bitcoin on: October 10, 2016, 11:14:28 AM
Did the dev team ever consider using Zcoin over Zcash?
you must be kidding.

why would we choose an obsolete 3 year old libzerocoin implementation that has significant bloat issues?

it would be like choosing an Intel 8080 CPU over Xeon

so no, never considered zcoin

I was thinking more of how parameter generation happens in both, I just read this comparison,

http://blog.zcoin.tech/zcoin-and-zcash/
263  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Announcing Jelurida! on: October 10, 2016, 05:36:15 AM
Announcing Jelurida!

The Nxt development team, creators of the advanced and feature-rich blockchain Nxt, and designers of the upcoming and ground-breaking Ardor platform, are excited to announce the incorporation of Jelurida BV, a new start-up headquartered in the Netherlands.

Jelurida BV has been incorporated to protect the Intellectual Property rights of the Nxt Core Development team with respect to the Nxt, and, soon, Ardor, code.

Jelurida BV, as holder of the intellectual property rights for the Nxt software and the Ardor platform, aims to create a sustainable and thriving business around the Nxt ecosystem by providing software licenses, maintenance, and services to a new breed of blockchain-based applications. By establishing Jelurida BV, we simplify this process by allowing the company to act on behalf of the core developers.
 
The incorporation of Jelurida BV addresses a growing need of the blockchain industry to provide solutions for use in corporate environments and is targeted at creating a sustainable business model which will benefit the Nxt community in various ways such as a brand identification as well as a further statement to the integrity of the code. This will further encourage projects to consider using the Nxt and Ardor blockchains for their needs and thus increase their overall usage.

Jelurida will continue to release the Nxt software under the open source GPLv2 license, making it available for free use and modifications as long as any derived software is published under this same open source license.

Press contact: Bas Wisselink (info@jelurida.com)

https://nxt.org/introducing-jelurida/

So nxt became a religion now, Jelurohovida Witnesses?
264  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Zcoin - The Zerocoin cryptocurrency, guaranteeing financial privacy on: October 10, 2016, 05:10:33 AM
Did Zcoin have a premine or mining tax?
265  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][KMD][dPoW] Komodo ICO - Zcash Zero Knowledge Privacy Secured by Bitcoin on: October 10, 2016, 04:55:34 AM
Did the dev team ever consider using Zcoin over Zcash?
266  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: October 10, 2016, 04:16:01 AM
Will snapshot be in october?
267  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][KMD][dPoW] Komodo ICO - Zcash Zero Knowledge Privacy Secured by Bitcoin on: October 09, 2016, 05:14:55 AM
Minimum for investment.
Please provide:
CEO/Founder or Co-Founders with bio
CTO or Technical lead with bio
Marketing Executive in charge with bio
Subject Matter Expert or adviser with bio

Thanks

Things are different in the cryptosphere, bitcoin had/has none of those public positions. You might be better investing in the BIOsphere
268  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: October 08, 2016, 10:49:25 AM
Lokgically, it doesn't make sense to say that it's ok to use mymonero.com, as long as you only store small amounts there.
The site's unsafe whether you keep a dollar or a hundred thousand dollars there.
But the attacker or attackers go after the big accounts and leave the small ones untouched.


How many reports of mymonero hacks have there been? If there's been a lot, and they're mostly large balances, then that's cause for concern, and the statement posted on the fake site is raising serious allegations, so it would be good to catalogue all these mymonero hacks in an attempt to find out the scale of what's exactly happened, and how it happened.

Edit: has anyone reported the fake mymonero site to any law enforcement?
269  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: October 08, 2016, 02:57:58 AM
Coin and project looks great. Sadly the distribution is not the best. If exchanges don't agree to distribute the bbs to their userbase then the project is doomed before it starts. Imagine the exchanges all holding huge bags and manipulating the markets they essentially already make.


Also the coins should be available for a very short time after the snapshot. Hopefully the super rich super whales won't pay any attention until it's too late to claim their huge stakes they seem entitled too just for already being super rich.

The claim of wanting wide involvement but essentially leaving out huge swathes of the crypto community with LTC and DOGE like clams did does not seem like a good plan either. I don't see that people will switch back to btc for the snapshot and if they did in any great numbers it would cause havoc for those alts.

The article essentially asks this and the answer is i want to reward early adopters of BTC? that is the only logical explanation. Wanting a wider distribution is not a reasonable explanation for not using other large alt communities and getting them involved.

In all honesty a well advertised ICO could be seen as way fairer.

New projects require committed early adopters. Most bitcoin early adopters learnt enough, and made enough money to follow crypto semi full time,  and they are most likely people to get a new coin off the ground. An army of privates will never win a war, there must be sergeants,  captains,  lieutenants,  majors, colonels above, and then a few generals. Without a few whales a coin has no generals. It is the painful truth, rich guys have more incentive to 'act' than small hobbyists
270  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: October 08, 2016, 02:43:58 AM
Somebody told me to go to mymonero.co and look at the message there.  I have copied and pasted it, with some light formatting of the line wraps to make it more readable.  Otherwise it is completely unedited.  You can ignore the part about rescuing the dogs.  It's a link in the original, which you can go click on if you're interested in that kind of thing.

We know mymonero com was founded by /u/fluffyponyza, a good guy. And we know at least 4 people lost millions this year because they used that site.
Look at this one
https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/52sw9r/9830_xmr_stolen_from_my_mymonerocom_wallet_be/
fluffyponyza gave us some plausible explanations, but after reading all those comments, I strongly believe it's mymonero com itself keeps stealing people's money.
Not so called "keyloger" "phisher" "microsoft"... ridiculous.
We have more information than ordinary people. For instance, we know 99.99% people hold less than 500 xmr on mymonero.
So it's extremely abnormal if we consider the fact that nearly no victim in this kind of crime reported the loss of small amount.
The example that fluffyponyza provided is belonging to us so it can't be take into account and we never got any account with balance of more than 600.
fluffyponyza told us there was a guy who bought data from DNM voluntarily warned them and blamed "botnet keylogger".
No it's nearly not possible and I don't even understand why he said it seriously. It's a ridiculous joke.
Let alone "those victims did not lose any other thing but xmr." The probability would be extremely low.
And we know myetherwallet has a similar business mode, and no user has lost 1 eth because of so called "keylogger dump".
Statistically, you can't swipe so many accounts with large amount unless you have at least 1 fifth of the whole database.
The only possible reason is this GENUINE mymonero web wallet itself or who can access their database as many times as he wants steals customers' money.
Clearly, although We still believe Fluffypony is a good guy, it's obvious his friend is the thief behind those thefts.
And I don't think Fluffypony knew nothing about this.  And the more frustrating fact is that nearly every web wallet site, such as myetherwallet com,
steals money from users account and claims to be "hacked" or "phished".   We have many evidences.
We sent emails to myetherwallet to urge them to return it to victims, and we will report to their local police office if nothing happens in proper time range.  
Human beings can update source code if they want. And if your account has substantial xmr and that bad guy periodically check with viewkey manually,
and one day the traffic from your ip will be redirected to a temporarily existed special version which only could be visited from specific ip --- your ip.
It's easily be recorded through javascript even if you are cautious.
Again, as for me, fluffyponyza is good guy. But good guy always has bad intimate friend. BTW, you could help us resque the dogs

The text isn't well written, but it has some interesting and useful content.
Those of you who follow this thread may recall that I lost a little more than 7000 xmr on Mr. Spagni's website.  This zhalox claims to have lost even more, not that I have much energy to devote to feeling sorry for him, considering my own straitened circumstances.  I am of retirement age, legally disabled, I have expensive medical needs, and insurance doesn't cover the treatments.  Whatever.  I deal with life's shit sandwiches on my own time.  I'm not asking anybody to feel sorry for me.  I'm putting out what information or analysis I can find regarding mymonero.com.  Let the reader decide.

How many credible mymonero hack cases have been reported? Are people investigating these claims?
271  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] OPAIR | Decentralized Debit Cards | OCaml | New Blockchain Platform on: October 08, 2016, 02:08:39 AM
So let me get this straight.. if Wass comes out with the OCaml...will all the fudding stop  Huh

Yes, I'd say release of ocaml wallet and proof-of-life for frank kills 99% of doubts
272  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] OPAIR | Decentralized Debit Cards | OCaml | New Blockchain Platform on: October 07, 2016, 12:48:45 PM
Guys, I definitely would like someone to find wasserman and pressure him into returning the ico funds he scammed, I just think using the opair distribution for another coin gives the ico investors the best chance to get something out of this. zcash is launching in a few weeks, so why not make opair the first fairly launched zcash clone? Crazier things happen in the cryptoshere everyday

I'm not sure how many people truly understand the zcash protocol. better off forking another coin for now.

Good point, but the 9% premine might attract someone with sufficient skills.
I have skills but i wont take over this Scam project and i dont think any decent dev will even want to touch this.
Never invest in a ICO that start without an Escrow and has many chills puppets account cheering the Project.
And also a ICO that has a Moderated thread right from start.

Just think along these lines: zcash has great tech, but people are generally not happy about the overly generous deal for the founders. Now, this is very similar to bytecoin, the original cryptonote coin, and look what happened there. The average crypto guy wont touch bytecoin, but look at monero now, and it started out as a 'fairly launched' clone. So the question then becomes what was the key ingredient that made monero take off back in may 2014? It wasn't new devs adding new features, they're still working on those to this day. The key ingredient with monero was the community of people who worked together to launch a clone of bytecoin, and kept it going, the
New devs appeared later. So ... what do the opair ico guys have? Nothing, except an established connection, and a desire to have some stake in a viable coin. That doesn't sound like much, but it's actually more than monero had in the first few weeks of its existence as they had no connection at the start

Zcash is great tech, but its distribution stinks. Opair distribution was instigated for a scam, but as long as wasserman's accounts are blocked, the distro itself was 'fair', and it's far better than the current zcash premine and mining tax. With zOpair we just replace the zcash premine amount with the opair ico distribution, then use wasserman's 9% to pay a dev to clone zcash and manage a zOpair mining pool for 6 months. Hey presto, an established community of 100 or so founders of a fairly launched zcash clone. Zcash is very vulnerable to a fairly launched clone, but whoever launches a zcash clone first wont have any community at the start, and will obviously be suspected of running a dodgy pump & dump. Well, opair victims are already 'bonded' together, and obviously not part of an elaborate zcash long con.

Plus, what a way to give two fingers to wasserman!

I agree this opinion - 100% ... More than 100 people, working wallet and nodes ... Yobit - exchange alreade is  .... Need idea ...

Thanks for the support! Really, it can't hurt to workshop this idea for a few days. There are other possible coins to make a straight vanilla clone from (iota, byteball, monero, dash, nxt), but zcash does have vulnerabilities over its distribution. The zcash founder mining tax doesn't pass the sniff test, so combined with the best in class anon tech it seems the obvious candidate.

What else is left guys ... I got more hope in zOpair than frank ever delivering anything. If he just posted 5-6 times the ico would have made x3 more, so I conclude wasserman realised as a non english speaking native that he couldn't write like another person, so he decided to limit his scam takings, but not risk the whole thing falling over before he got something.

I think - we need wait to end October ... If beta wallet OCALM OPAIR no , then we will go our way ... Wasserman say - second half October - need wait ...

I might be wrong, so by all means lets wait and see if the ocaml wallet is released, but having a plan B worked out makes sense too. Odds are wasserman is just trying to get one pump out of opair before he disappears, so the timeline of end of october fits in nicely with zcash launch anyway. Either way the first zcash clone might be the one that survives, zcash original looks very vulnerable

Edit: for those interested, this is the zcash funding model https://z.cash/blog/funding.html  zOpair could do exactly the same with the 4 year 20% mine tax, or just have a 10% premine.
273  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] OPAIR | Decentralized Debit Cards | OCaml | New Blockchain Platform on: October 07, 2016, 12:35:41 PM
Guys, I definitely would like someone to find wasserman and pressure him into returning the ico funds he scammed, I just think using the opair distribution for another coin gives the ico investors the best chance to get something out of this. zcash is launching in a few weeks, so why not make opair the first fairly launched zcash clone? Crazier things happen in the cryptoshere everyday

I'm not sure how many people truly understand the zcash protocol. better off forking another coin for now.

Good point, but the 9% premine might attract someone with sufficient skills.
I have skills but i wont take over this Scam project and i dont think any decent dev will even want to touch this.
Never invest in a ICO that start without an Escrow and has many chills puppets account cheering the Project.
And also a ICO that has a Moderated thread right from start.

Just think along these lines: zcash has great tech, but people are generally not happy about the overly generous deal for the founders. Now, this is very similar to bytecoin, the original cryptonote coin, and look what happened there. The average crypto guy wont touch bytecoin, but look at monero now, and it started out as a 'fairly launched' clone. So the question then becomes what was the key ingredient that made monero take off back in may 2014? It wasn't new devs adding new features, they're still working on those to this day. The key ingredient with monero was the community of people who worked together to launch a clone of bytecoin, and kept it going, the
New devs appeared later. So ... what do the opair ico guys have? Nothing, except an established connection, and a desire to have some stake in a viable coin. That doesn't sound like much, but it's actually more than monero had in the first few weeks of its existence as they had no connection at the start

Zcash is great tech, but its distribution stinks. Opair distribution was instigated for a scam, but as long as wasserman's accounts are blocked, the distro itself was 'fair', and it's far better than the current zcash premine and mining tax. With zOpair we just replace the zcash premine amount with the opair ico distribution, then use wasserman's 9% to pay a dev to clone zcash and manage a zOpair mining pool for 6 months. Hey presto, an established community of 100 or so founders of a fairly launched zcash clone. Zcash is very vulnerable to a fairly launched clone, but whoever launches a zcash clone first wont have any community at the start, and will obviously be suspected of running a dodgy pump & dump. Well, opair victims are already 'bonded' together, and obviously not part of an elaborate zcash long con.

Plus, what a way to give two fingers to wasserman!

I agree this opinion - 100% ... More than 100 people, working wallet and nodes ... Yobit - exchange alreade is  .... Need idea ...

Thanks for the support! Really, it can't hurt to workshop this idea for a few days. There are other possible coins to make a straight vanilla clone from (iota, byteball, monero, dash, nxt), but zcash does have vulnerabilities over its distribution. The zcash founder mining tax doesn't pass the sniff test, so combined with the best in class anon tech it seems the obvious candidate.

What else is left guys ... I got more hope in zOpair than frank ever delivering anything. If he just posted 5-6 times the ico would have made x3 more, so I conclude wasserman realised as a non english speaking native that he couldn't write like another person, so he decided to limit his scam takings, but not risk the whole thing falling over before he got something.
274  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] OPAIR | Decentralized Debit Cards | OCaml | New Blockchain Platform on: October 07, 2016, 12:10:43 PM
Guys, I definitely would like someone to find wasserman and pressure him into returning the ico funds he scammed, I just think using the opair distribution for another coin gives the ico investors the best chance to get something out of this. zcash is launching in a few weeks, so why not make opair the first fairly launched zcash clone? Crazier things happen in the cryptoshere everyday

I'm not sure how many people truly understand the zcash protocol. better off forking another coin for now.

Good point, but the 9% premine might attract someone with sufficient skills.
I have skills but i wont take over this Scam project and i dont think any decent dev will even want to touch this.
Never invest in a ICO that start without an Escrow and has many chills puppets account cheering the Project.
And also a ICO that has a Moderated thread right from start.

Just think along these lines: zcash has great tech, but people are generally not happy about the overly generous deal for the founders. Now, this is very similar to bytecoin, the original cryptonote coin, and look what happened there. The average crypto guy wont touch bytecoin, but look at monero now, and it started out as a 'fairly launched' clone. So the question then becomes what was the key ingredient that made monero take off back in may 2014? It wasn't new devs adding new features, they're still working on those to this day. The key ingredient with monero was the community of people who worked together to launch a clone of bytecoin, and kept it going, the
New devs appeared later. So ... what do the opair ico guys have? Nothing, except an established connection, and a desire to have some stake in a viable coin. That doesn't sound like much, but it's actually more than monero had in the first few weeks of its existence as they had no connection at the start

Zcash is great tech, but its distribution stinks. Opair distribution was instigated for a scam, but as long as wasserman's accounts are blocked, the distro itself was 'fair', and it's far better than the current zcash premine and mining tax. With zOpair we just replace the zcash premine amount with the opair ico distribution, then use wasserman's 9% to pay a dev to clone zcash and manage a zOpair mining pool for 6 months. Hey presto, an established community of 100 or so founders of a fairly launched zcash clone. Zcash is very vulnerable to a fairly launched clone, but whoever launches a zcash clone first wont have any community at the start, and will obviously be suspected of running a dodgy pump & dump. Well, opair victims are already 'bonded' together, and obviously not part of an elaborate zcash long con.

Plus, what a way to give two fingers to wasserman!
275  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] OPAIR | Decentralized Debit Cards | OCaml | New Blockchain Platform on: October 07, 2016, 12:22:03 AM
Guys, I definitely would like someone to find wasserman and pressure him into returning the ico funds he scammed, I just think using the opair distribution for another coin gives the ico investors the best chance to get something out of this. zcash is launching in a few weeks, so why not make opair the first fairly launched zcash clone? Crazier things happen in the cryptoshere everyday

I'm not sure how many people truly understand the zcash protocol. better off forking another coin for now.

Good point, but the 9% premine might attract someone with sufficient skills.
276  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] OPAIR | Decentralized Debit Cards | OCaml | New Blockchain Platform on: October 07, 2016, 12:15:03 AM
Guys, I definitely would like someone to find wasserman and pressure him into returning the ico funds he scammed, I just think using the opair distribution for another coin gives the ico investors the best chance to get something out of this. zcash is launching in a few weeks, so why not make opair the first fairly launched zcash clone? Crazier things happen in the cryptoshere everyday
277  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] OPAIR | Decentralized Debit Cards | OCaml | New Blockchain Platform on: October 06, 2016, 11:34:35 PM
I doubt wasserman is even following this thread anymore. this coin was a complete scam, we said so a hundred times but were called fudders.
He didn't deserve a single bitcoin to be invested in this project, a few LinkedIn accounts and two BTCtalk accounts cost pennies compared to what he scammed. but people preferred that SJ will forward the bitcoins to wasserman's hands. He played the nice guy until he got all the bitcoins from escrow. now all that's left is a cloned wallet he copied from github.

He's gonna run all the bitcoin's through bitmixer, and enjoy the free money. and people are happy the coin is listen on YOBIT. they list, literally, every coin.
To those of you looking to find his real identity, the first step would be to find the person who made the voiceover for the Opair video.

It's going to be hard finding his real identity. The voiceover is your best hope.. As he used anonymous domain, hosting, email etc.

No point finding wasserman, what crime did he commit?  He's obviously a dishonest guy who never intended to fulfil his stated roadmap, but people voluntarily sent him money, and no prosecutor would ever charge him, what jurisdiction?. He got away with 100k usd, nobody will take expensive legal action for that amount. Maybe someone finds him and chops off a finger, but then does anyone expect that guy to refund all the ico victims? Comon guys, this was a successful scam, move on

Best outcome for victims is an NFD styled reboot, probably have 7-10 days to organise before everyone moves on. Use the Opair distribution with wasserman 9% to pay a new dev. Zcash seems obvious choice, but could be many others too. It's the best hope to get some return from this sorry situation
278  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] OPAIR | Decentralized Debit Cards | OCaml | New Blockchain Platform on: October 06, 2016, 11:15:43 PM
So what's the deal with this coin? Did it turn out to be legit? I saw in the deClouds thread that deClouds copied the Opair linken profile texts.

99.9% a scam
279  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] OPAIR | Decentralized Debit Cards | OCaml | New Blockchain Platform on: October 06, 2016, 11:04:27 PM
Best option is to use the opair distribution for a new coin, Iike a zCash clone.
Zopair
280  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: | STRATIS | The first blockchain developed for businesses |Full POS on: September 26, 2016, 04:44:35 AM
What happened to blitz?
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