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261  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Support, do not criticize. on: February 28, 2024, 08:48:18 PM
If you know anybody trying to stop the addiction of gambling to become better for themselves and their family, try and show them support by not criticizing them. If you observe that they experience some kind of relapse and go back to gamble even when they said they were not going to gamble, try to encourage them to remember why they wanted to stop gambling for the time. It is not an easy decision for some of them to make, and even imagining that they will never gamble again can make it worse for them, most of them need all the support they can get to help them maintain the decision to give gambling some time away. If you criticize and mock them, they may nurse in the heart the mindset that gambling is impossible to stop, or even stop trying to stop gambling because you have already made them feel like they can never do it.

Trying to gamble shame anyone is the least thing any serious person will engage into, it can happen to any person because no person is too big to be a victim and no small person that is too little to be affected by gambling, we are all potential victim until you lose some money to it and get out of your mind. I always tell beg my sprit to lead me well if one day gambling try to make a mess of me, I should have the sense and ways to go over it like it never even happened in the first place.

We should also be proactive than aftermath, there are many ways to never addicted to gambling but people don't want to lewrn, when they say gamble with the amount you can lose isn't like the phrase was coin from anywhere, it was done to protect the interest of gamblers but many chose to ignore. When advice not to chase after loss, it should be practice but people don't adhere to that, these are the little things that matters but we just turn blind eyes and do what we like and then cry later.
262  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A gambler takes his own life after a loss. on: February 28, 2024, 08:02:41 PM
Also your life doesn't belong to you, we all borrowed it for max of 100 years, when it's time, everyone will drop their life, to me it's not worth to take someone's life and it's also not worth taking your own life because of money, if this man is still alive today he would have recovered this amount already.

People need to be responsible when they are gambling, this act is an act of irresponsible, you feel easy to make money like it's just a straight up line, you don't think about you losing the money, the amount must have been the max he had in his account, why took such risk? It's sad.

You value life and anyone who value life are not moves by money or any materialistic things. But the guy is definitely dealing with other fears and depression which he must haven't share with anyone and then end it all when he loss everything. I even read somewhere he borrowed an additional money to his own to bet, didn't know what he was trying to achieve but it's better for him to use the money to buy food and eat, sleep and get querry by the lender of the money than do gambling and ended it all.

Those days when you only see middle age people worry of depression but Depression today is a real problem among the youths and adolescent people who are supposed to be facing higer education, skills, and other things that will be beneficial but they will rather watch Drake that has struggled his life to get where he is today but they want to be like him when they don't even have the means, this is where gambling comes from some people.
263  Economy / Economics / Re: Save money today so money would save you tomorrow. on: February 27, 2024, 10:09:27 PM
To cut the story short, I’m advising mostly the young people of our generation to save, avoid unnecessary spendings and save even if it’s so little, cause you might find yourself in a situation tomorrow and you wouldn’t want to call home or ask for help, cause you have a second choice, that means you are literally getting yourself out of a problem. So please it’s not too late to stop spending on things that doesn’t really matter, so basically the money you saved today could literally save you tomorrow.

I think the subject should be invest some money today, so your investment would save you tomorrow. Everyone obviously need investment and if you have the opportunity to do, take advantage of it because it's now easier to make first million but not many people knows how to adhere to that status for long, they make the money and then blow it like it's nothing and when they try to make another one again, the luck don't come to their side again and after that one finish, they blame their self later for wrong move and it's already late.

To avoid had I know, better do when you have the means. There are time for everything, just because you made enough money doesn't mean you should go get a car and just because you want to buy a care doesn't mean you should get a car that you can't maintain, these are the problems we don't discuss enough because a lot of young lads has been mislead by the society lifestyles and peer pressure.
264  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: When will Michael Saylor and MicroStrategy sell BTC? on: February 27, 2024, 09:45:28 PM
Whether he's going to sell $MSTR shares or actual Bitcoin, don't be gullible with his words and also with other known people that owns a company.

They'd come to an unknown time selling their stash for their own benefit. All of them have their reasons why they've been buying and just as us, they're there to make profit.

So, if he said that he's never going to buy, he's got that laser eyes and diamond hands. Possible that he's saying is true but I don't buy that, he's also like us that would like to have some profits.

All companies has there yearly or annual revenue report which means the board need breeding about where and how money is going and coming. He might be the CEO of the company but with obligations to let people know there profits and there share and even with this, there will be some faction in that company that wouldn't like this buying of bitcoin, Michael Saylor tellimg us he is not going to sell and continue to buy and then went ahead to validate that statement with 300k think people are that dumb, trust me may whales are familiar with his game, they will sell and live him be until SEC will come knocking on his door for doing one or two things that is against the descipline of financial system.

Who doesn't like profit, tell me. I might believe if it's coming from Bitcoin company but not from a software company that is profit base and not a non government organization, he really think people really care about his position in Bitcoin.
265  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Wins: Your Money Was Returned to You. on: February 27, 2024, 09:22:28 PM
what we win is the money we lose, I don't think so, I think when I win gambling it is someone else's money who loses and vice versa, and this cycle will continue to turn, and that is the reason why casinos very rarely go bankrupt because they pay out their winnings. which is greater than their income

Before a casino would be approved and licensed, there is this body that make sure that the company is insure before they commence operation, it's one of the safety guide to protect players and if that money is not available, they don't licnence the casino. However, I'm not sure if most of these casino do something like that before they commence operation but even at that, there must be money set aside huge enough to pay people that may luckily win big amount but on the long run, if there is more customers they should have increased in gross revenue.

When you lose, the money goes to the gambling and the casino becomes the real ownership of the gambling and when you lose, you didn't win money of others, it's the money of the casino, they are the one paying you from there money and not from the previous people that has lost due to change in ownership of the money.
266  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: February 27, 2024, 08:56:13 PM
I don't believe this rumor, Kevin still has quite good quality and there are still many top European teams who still want to recruit him.
The top players who want to move to the Saudi Arabian league because of money and also their age are no longer able to compete with young players so before ending their careers they look for more money there.
Of course, the Saudi Arabian league is very different from the top European leagues, so players who feel they are still worthy and still have quality will not feel at home there.

If Guardiola was asked about this question in an interview and he said he has no information about such news but he thinks it's possible but will love him to stay, then you can say that Kevin is such a valuable guy that every team would want to be included in their game. It doesn't make sense for Saudi to demand for him but they have the money isn't and football these days is all about what the player earned, people don't really care so much about the talent which is the reason we are were we are today, no too much skills players again.

It's left for him to decide, he is not too young and not too old, he is already almost at the peak of his career but the fact that he is no 3 in the last concluded Balon D'or could work out these time between him and Haaland most especially if they win the Champions League and the Premier League, it's nothing new to them, it's what they can achieve with the current squad of Manchester City.
267  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling for fun and not a way of making money on: February 27, 2024, 08:40:26 PM
In fact, the meaning of gambling is entertainment but wondering how it changed and became known as a money-maker. This is probably because of these gambling influencers who always say -multiply your money through gambling which changed the mindset of most gamblers, especially beginners. The strategy is quite working so well and many people are encouraged to gamble after seeing some players win the jackpot and become rich instantly. It sticks in their mind and that also gives them a reason why they are gambling already. We even see a lot of poor people gambling hoping to win big time and change their life.

I doubt if the meaning of gambling is entertainment as you said! Just to be clear, here is the meaning to gambling:

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gambling, the betting or staking of something of value, with consciousness of risk and hope of gain, on the outcome of a game, a contest, or an uncertain event whose result may be determined by chance or accident or have an unexpected result by reason of the bettor's miscalculation
Source: https://www.britannica.com/topic/gambling

That's said.

Gambling has never been generalized as entertainment, the streets sees and do it as a way to make more fortune when you risk a fortune or something worthy. However, because betting platforms want to make it socially and inviting for people without looking at it as "gambling", they put it as reward for passion or place for fun but deep down, it's more than that, money are made from gambling and money are lost in gambling, no 2 ways about it.

Gambling is a business transaction, you deposit and try your luck and you win and you get paid or you risk again and lose and they take it from you. If you are good and has a bright head, you can make something and if you are  not, you make nothing, fun or no fun these must happen.
268  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: When will Michael Saylor and MicroStrategy sell BTC? on: February 26, 2024, 05:43:48 PM
I don’t know when they will sell some but at some stage I assume they will & be handsomely in profit. There is nothing to worry about when they do sell some though. Adoption is growing all the time, there is always a buyer & a seller, it doesn’t matter who is what. There will be a lot more institutional demand now that we have Spot ETFs. Don’t worry about what Saylor & Microstrategy do.

The sell will definitely shake the market, they were holding $10b worth of Bitcoin before this and they have been the catalyst behind this pump, they just bought an additional 3k to their reserve and that should be an additional bitcoin. Remember, last 2 years they were about to be liquidated if Bitcoin price should reach $12k and they immediately borrowed fund to further reduce their liquidation price, they had the opportunity before the FTX disasters and they didn't sell, I'm not sure they will take such risk again, they will sell when they want.

 Now imagine when they want move such amount to the market or if they decide to move some part of it, recall that it was $3b worth of bitcoin Luna protocol dump that made bitcoin crash first when they were trying to defend USTC coin, how much damage do you think this one will do if micheal saylor move $2b even if they announce to sell, a crash of plummet will come because the market is not trusting anyone yet but if he refused to sell, it will help the market in the long run.
269  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC above $53k on: February 26, 2024, 05:25:36 PM
I have read often times that price of BTC usually dump before the halving and pick up after halving but it's looking as if there is going to be an exception to this rule this year now that Bitcoin ETF has already been approved and lots of instructional buying going on.

With BTC constantly going up and as we approach March I'm just few days? Do you think we are going to see any major corrections before the halving?

This was after it was announced that Microstrategy bought an additional 3000btc and Trump green flag on bitcoin comment. While I may accept that Microstrategy is indeed doing there own part and buying all the bitcoin they could, it's makings it centralized because they had about 190,000btc now in their custody but it's better than what politicians are doing, believe Trump or any US candidate when they say good stuff about Bitcoin at your own peril, they turn deaf and dump when the get into that office.

Bitcoin don't dump when halving is approaching, it's like 2-3 weeks before it dump and right now we are 2 month and some weeks away from the new Bitcoin halving. I expect to see us touch the previous all time high before any correction but don't be surprised if whales keep the bitcoin in that level and used halving to break the resistance, anything is possible. You should be anticipating for new price though, not dumping all the time.
270  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A lot of gambling sites are scams ! on: February 26, 2024, 05:03:29 PM
Online betting has become the main concern for the majority of young people, as players flock to casinos forcefully to obtain the largest possible amount of money. There are those who invest thousands and millions of dollars, but there is a serious problem as the majority of sites provide facilities to ensure players’ participation and entice them with large sums of money. Then they steal every cent directly. There are sites that do not target young players, as their victims are those with large amounts of money. Other sites initially deal transparently and seek to gain the trust of the players until they obtain a large audience. Then they begin their hellish plans. So , the majority of gambling sites are unsafe and it's hard to trust them .

Winning money from casino is as good as losing money in casino and when players lose, they lose 3 times or even more than the amount they win from the casino, so I don't understand your take where you said young players forcefully take money from the casino; if you met all the conditions before your games, there is nothing bad in winning all the money casino has in their reserves because they take more than that amount from players.

I will be disappointed in myself if any new casino can pop up and then I will deposit 5 figure when I'm not enchanted with some spiritual portion. There are virtual many other casino that has standout test of time and they are still in existence, I don't get excited by these bonuses or any promotion, that alone can save you from greed around casino money.

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How can I choose the best betting site that provides me with a safe betting experience?
Does this site provide a high level of safety for its players?
I need help from those with experience in this field

Do you have any gambling account with all the casinos in these forum? I don't there are many of scam casinos here but you can give some a chance here, some of them are here for more than 9 years and are still strong and reputed than ever, give their service a chance but you should limit the deposit for now until after your experience.
271  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: An Unusual Story that Reflects the Current Gambling Addiction Reality on: February 26, 2024, 04:49:45 PM
In this group a person shared a story of how a married reached out to her for medical assistance to support his wife terminal illness treatment. Instead of providing his wife's account details as requested, he offered his own. Concerned that the funds might be misused, particularly for gambling, the person offering assistance insisted on the wife's account details. However, the conversation ended there, with no further response from the man.

he stranger offering aid had no prior acquaintance with the husband. Why then was there apprehension that the funds might fuel gambling rather than support the wife's medical needs?

This short story reflects the current reality we live in.

Who knows, she might be familiar with such tactics gamblers used in begging money from her and it could be that another person has made her not to trust people again that beg money especially people that beg for money with a pity situation. I think the woman has the right to send the money through any means, let's even say that the man really need the money to take care of his wife, what's the big deal in sending money to the wife accounts, need moments aren't meant for solution.

This addictions tactics to get money from people will a lot of chances for people that need help, if these pattern continues, a time will come when ordinary people will need help from a fellow women, perhaps money to eat but they will assume they are fellow gamblers who need money to gamble even though they provide their wife account for money to be sent.
272  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: February 26, 2024, 04:38:47 PM
Congratulations to Liverpool, Kloop is still proving he doesn't seem to be tired. But his departure seems to have other problems. With the current state of performance of course if I am the owner of Liverpool then I want him to stay and not leave. Liverpool's victory in the Carabao Cup may be the first title of the season there is a chance to add to the EPL champions. In addition they also have the opportunity to win the Europa League. So Kloop seems to want to give a beautiful impression when he leaves.

Do you think the owners didn't consider that before coming to that conclusion? What if it was Klopp that want to live and not the club that is sending him away. If Klopp could publicly announce his departure even before the league end of the league in a manner that sound vexing, then I don't think it's something we can understand but with time, when he lives the club he is going to have to full obligations to tell us what's happening. Remember how they treated Mane when indeed they need him to support their winger but their greed cost them and why they couldn't make it to the Champions League this season.

If they settle their misunderstanding, it help the club because this form is great, he used the remaining squad to achieved what he did yesterday despite when most of the big players were injured, Salah was offline, Darwin Nunez was in the field as well and many more but they pulled that performance on Chelsea, with this he is still doing great in Premier League, they will lose so much if Klopp lives the club for real.
273  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: February 25, 2024, 09:15:45 PM
I think it's too soon to speculate about Kevin De Bruyne's future and his potential to play for one of the Saudi Pro League teams, he still on the golden age and want to spent his career with top European teams exactly under Pep Guardiola he still become regular players with Manchester City. Indeed he has decision one day later will play with Cristiano Ronaldo but its less possibilities during Ronaldo have been 38 years old and Kevin possibilities moving to Saudi Pro League clubs exactly three or four years later.

Not really small with payment salary receiving from Manchester City, although Saudi Pro League teams will give more bigger payment I don't sure make excited for De Bruyne will play there and he needs right time before leaving top European teams.

I think a lot of people here say things they want to say because of engagement and how to fill the signature post. Why you even imagine that Kevin De Bruyne will leave for Saudi professional league. Not like his salary was small or he doesn't get comfort on how he play, he has won Champions League and Premier league title as well, if there is no better to do at Premier League, it's better for him to go to Seria A his Role model help rain, even Haaland wouldn't be desperate to make such kind of loves not to talk more of Kevin.

It's very sad that some players are hiding under the influences of Ronaldo but we all can agreed that he moved got good reason, Erik Ten Hag was pushing him to the walls and man was happy to leave but these players we are talking about doesn't look like they are been push by Guardiola(he doesn't have that time) and I don't think some of these players are cool going to a country to play for just because there is much money invest in players but soon all these candies will be dropped off.
274  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: February 25, 2024, 08:40:54 PM
Mauricio Pochettino needs to be sack because there's no evidence of the coach's progress. They're reluctant in one's position, they're failing to make the big moves. I'm Chelsea fan and I'm sad because my team is finished. There's nothing good about the team this current season, you can't tell me they can handle Liverpool B team at wembley. This was one of the worst game for the Blues this season, they missed out good chances of goal opportunities but turning to Liverpool B team, they made everyone proud with their stellar performance against Blues.

Jurgen Klopp is an intellectual coach, I will keep saying it because he beats every Chelsea coach he meets, either in league or in grand finals. Jurgen Klopp can easily win Chelsea because he knows the weaknesses of the club, no relenting efforts but grab the important points, his player, Van Dijk was present where they needed him at appropriate time. Liverpool goalkeeper, Caoimhin Kelleher saved the day with his brilliant saves, he denied the Blues numerous chances of goal scoring, so he deserves his flowers. I'm highly dissapointed in the Blues, they should ensure they made rights for their wrongs.

Let's do away with the hate that everyone push on coaches, Pochettino did his best today and the players as well perform excellently, both teams did there best but best is not enough until one team lose and the other team win and that's what happened today. Check each team short on target, they did well, there was a time each of the team will play defensively and also play offensively but why it was even more difficult for the team to lose in this match in normal time was because Dorde Petrovic and Kelleher were good goalkeepers.

Pochettino was been careful of substituting players and that's because the players were doing fine, there was sometime they were playing Liverpool with their max pressure but all Van Dijk spoil the fun in the end and that goal was a reflection because Van Dijk was very tall, no defenders in Chelsea that is as tall as him and that's what he did even in the first goal that was canceled as a result of the offside Endo did but all cool, it's a game after and Chelsea are not lucky to win this one but it's this failures are putting him in bad record.
275  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Withdrawing profits from Coinbase? on: February 22, 2024, 04:23:58 PM
Bull run is heating up and I want to have a plan in place for when it comes to selling and withdrawing profits back to my bank later this year.

I mainly use Coinbase and I haven't cashed out any profits up till now so want to be prepared.

Is there a way of paying less fees when withdrawing?

Why are you holding the coins on an exchange? It's not norm to to keep coins on exchanges, not about the centralized reputation or what they claim, it's always better when you are done buying your crypto, the fees shouldn't be a workload for your to bear. Learn to send your coins to external wallet when you are done buying the coin.

To sell back, use the same exchange and send your coins on the exchange and sell on spot trading, it's as simple as that and you can also covert to USD and the select the available bank on your country.

You didn't specify which of the country you want to use so people can give you specific answer. You can also use the exchange P2P for fast sale to your bank just incase.
276  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling between the past and nowadays on: February 22, 2024, 04:12:24 PM
We have all noticed the changes that have occurred in gambling over the past years, as gambling in 1990 or before is not the same as it is today due to several factors, including:
-Ease of playing and more casinos.
-Inventing new tools and methods of playing.
-Online gambling and the emergence of easy-to-use applications that support all games.
-The method of advertising has changed, becoming more effective and attracting more players.
-The presence of liquidity due to the increase in the amounts that players bet.
-Provides more profit opportunities..

In your opinion, what are the factors that brought  change in the field of gambling? What is your outlook on it in the future?

Put it this way, the internet has changed and revolutionize a lot of things as we more updates comes, it keeps getting better. You can't compare 2G with 3G, you can't compare 4G with 5G, I'm very sure another generation of internet speed is coming soon and with this technological advancement, things will continue to be better and so does web pages that are very heavy to load faster.

Now a days, Casino cmpanies don't do much with games design and to make it easy for players, just like bookmarkers, they partnership with this companies to make experience better. The companies integrate these games into the casino after reaching an agreement and then the management handle the rest of the financial aspects and they get commission on every of the games played, this makes the workload even better and faster because you will see a casino with over 400 games and you will wonder how the manage the games, it's through partnership this works better.
277  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling for fun and not a way of making money on: February 22, 2024, 04:03:52 PM
Gambling has many meaning to people but if you ask me what gambling is about, I will say it's risk people take to win something and that thing they anticipate to win is money, the only thing that keep gambling running, the reason why we have increased in the number of people that gamble are motivated by the money but I must also admit that we have some people that gamble for fun, they don't really care about the money but then again, the amount they put is always way below the amount they can afford to lose, you don't expect someone to risk big amount of money in thousands and millions to gamble unless they are trying to do money laundering.

If Gambling is really existing because of the fun, we will have less number. If there is even a casino where money is not even, like they open it free for everyone, trust me when I say people will not patronize them, they will rather go to where money is involved and where the can win something that's why I don't take people serious when they say they are gambling for fun yet you are been careful when you stake and get sad when you lose, that's not way to be fun.
278  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: CORRECT AND NOT ATTACK on: February 21, 2024, 05:53:37 PM
                 WHAT IS NEWBIES
newbies is a person who just started a  particular activity without having full knowledge. Newbies are also called novice, newcomer, beginner.

You think so of you know so? Not all newbies that has newbie name are actually newbie, not everyone in this forum care about rank or merit, they prefer to have trust than anything related to their account. There are some newbies in reputation that are attack people because they are afraid to lose their main account and such can't be justify with your definition, some newbie are created for trolling and not necessarily for ranking but your definition is cool.

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IMPORTANT OF TOP RANK MEMBERS
Before you are been named or given a rank I believe you have pass through many challenges, obstacles before reaching the level you are now. I believe there is a reason why you are at that level. they are vital importance of being a top rank members
1: To guide and not to judge
2: To support
3: To Teach and so many more

I believe that Bitcoin talk forum is a home of knowledge and knowledge is acquired and distributed.
 

You see this forum, be thick and strong then you will know that these you highlighted doesn't need to be here, do your thing and rank up, learn about anything shared here, about Bitcoin and also make sure that you abide by the rules common rules and regulations. I'm general, please don't plagiarize, don't cheat and don't manipulate, that's the easiest way what you wrote above will not work.
279  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Start preparing for the next bear run. on: February 21, 2024, 05:34:30 PM
From my little experience with the Bitcoin Investment system, the best time to buy the coin if you are targeting to make a profit in the bull run is during the bear run. The price is cheaper and you can make a good profit within the four-year circle. At this period you don't need to rush to buy because of FOMO but you can comfortably buy at your own pace using the DCA or other strategy that suits you.

There is no trust in Bitcoin market else bear market shouldn't come now but it's when you don't expect shit to happen, that's when it do happen. I was reading some news yesterday and I came across Michael Saylor statement yesterday when asked about how he intended to sell his bitcoin and he responded that he doesn't plan to sell, he will continue to buy and then I remembered the last bullrun how Elon was gingering everyone only to go sell more than half of his Bitcoin before the dump.

What is the message I'm trying to pass, this centralized investors are buying all the bitcoin and encouraging everyone to hold and not sell but deep down, I know they are going to sell and give some excuses like saying his company is about to liquidated and needed some cash flow to keep it alive and this will bring another bear market.

Halving is here already and that's what is keeping this price, once it's done, expect some sell pressure, I have my plans on me but I will advice, there is nothing bad in selling if you are in profit or sell half and hold half.
280  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you feel excited while gambling on: February 21, 2024, 05:15:43 PM
From my little activeness over here in the forum and my involvement in gambling I have been seeing some changes in me and it's gradually beginning not to please me anymore I don't know If I will say I am becoming too emotional with my funds but sometimes it's very painful to place a bet for about 2 to 5 consecutive times no winning and this is what is beginning to me make feels sad. I know is a game of luck but sometimes whatever we do and not feels happy we should try to quit it.

I'm not sure there is a place where it says you have to bet and bet even when you are winning. I don't know for other bets but sports in particular sometimes favour you in the sense that you will get a chance to win back to back and you also lose back to back. When I lose consistently, I take a break and perhaps for the whole week and try again when I see that teams are in good form, that's how I bet comfortably without throwing money around just to win, you should learn to take a break when things are not okay.

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I just have to bring this to know the category of people who belong to this sets that always feels bad or are emotionally touched due to their games has been constantly bursting without winning. I don't know how to channel it but at least gambler should be happy most times i will noticed that only 1 games do take me away from winning and most times there will be option to cash out I will have the full confident that all will be successfully played without knowing games change even at dying minutes.

Cut 1, cut 2 is normal in gambling, sometimes I feel like these thing is done by betting companies to make someone lose intentionally but they are just normal outcome of our bets, the way we bet to win is the same thing that happened when we lose. It's normal to lose and it can be painful though but I see it as normal thing in gambling, I'm now at the point where loss don't mean any harm to me because it's the fund I can afford to lose and I'm sure even that amount will be made another day with one win.
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