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261  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: April 13, 2024, 02:08:20 PM
Manchester City have two main tasks for the match with Luton Town. Beat the opponent and get three points, the first task. A second task, avoid injuries on their players and if possible, give their main players resting time. They need best players with as best fitness as possible for a second leg quarter final match with Real Madrid in Champions League.

Even Manchester City will not use their best players for this match, I believe Luton Town will not get any point from Manchester City. They know how and have enough star players to beat Luton Town even just with a minimal won result.

I don't think Luton Town is a threat to Manchester City, I don't underestimate them, but I believe Manchester City can win when the whistle signals the start of the match. With Manchester City's current performance being strong, I believe they can win, although as you said they will probably rest their best players to face the match with Real Madrid which is indeed a big match and the one they are playing against is a strong team in their league.

But even so, I don't think Manchester City should underestimate Luton Town, because in the current season there are lots of surprises happening, which is feared that Luton Town will also give surprises, especially if Manchester City won't field their best players in this match against Luton Town. They still have to be alert, lest Luton Town give a surprise that will surprise many City fans. although there is no doubt about Manchester City's strong performance.
What a surprise as Manchester city scored their first goal on the first minutes of the match, due to the pressure that they started the game with. Haaland was the player that took the shot which was save first by the goalkeeper of Luton, and lastly the ball came back to Haaland which he took a powerful shot that was deflected by Luton player into the back net of the post.

It was just their first pass that gave them the lead, I believe that was what Luton was like preventing not to conced an early goal. The match look more easier for Manchester city than I expected. The host is on the lead with 1-0.

Manchester city is now first on the table, until when Liverpool wins their match.
262  Economy / Services / Re: [CFNP] Duelbits.com | Signature Campaign ~ Full Members+ | Up to $70/Week on: April 13, 2024, 09:38:13 AM
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263  Economy / Speculation / Re: Satoshi forces the price of bitcoin to continue to rise over time on: April 12, 2024, 06:24:07 PM
Satoshi never planned for the future of bitcoin to reach this price, but he knows that it might be possible or not. This is because Satoshi himself said that in 20 yrs time bitcoin price might reach a high amount or turn to zero. I am sorry I cannot find this quote here. So as you can see it is just his good work that brought bitcoin price to this amount.

The halving only help to trigger the bull run, because the law of demand and supply is what controls the price of bitcoin, and when people see the price of bitcoin shooting up, due to limited supply after the halving they buy because they don't want to miss out, believing that the price will keep pumping.
264  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: April 12, 2024, 04:17:18 PM
Barcelona experience in the UCL is very large and this experience gives the players a high level of confidence to be able to beat opponents who are considered equal like PSG even though they have star players like Mbappe, but in fact Mbappe could not provide anything in the first leg match.
from yesterday's match I decided to continue to think that PSG will never be successful in the UCL as long as they don't have the right coach who can improve the players mentality.
It is certain that this season Barcelona will qualify for the semi finals even though it is too early and too confident, but I always doubt PSG in the UCL.
Barcelona taught PSG an important lesson, winning the UCL trophy is not as easy as imagined even though they have the power of money, PSG is able to bring in quality players with the financial power they have, but money cannot buy history without player unity and a winning mentality. Barcelona success in beating PSG was due to a very compact team collaboration, Mbappe, who Luis Enrique relied on to break into Barcelona goal, was unable to pose a threat because Barcelona defenders did not provide the slightest space for Mbappe.

In fact, PSG already has a coach who is experienced in all competitions, Luis Enrique has also won many trophies including the UCL trophy when he was still coach of Barcelona. PSG weakness is because they are in less competitive leagues such as EPL, La Liga and Serie A. PSG can win League 1 easily because there is no team capable of providing competition in the title race. Maybe it is for this reason that until now PSG has never managed to win the UCL trophy even though their squad is filled with great players.
PSG can be the best in League 1,but not in UCL. This is because the UCL comprises of so many strong clubs from different leagues, which makes it very competitive, and if you think that you are the strongest in your domestic league, a club that is not that dominating their league can win you out of the competition.

Barcelona is well organized in their game pattern and the way they distribute the ball, and any club that wants to play them must understand this, and come up with a pattern that will not give them that chance to hold the ball too long, otherwise, there will be a goal. This is because they will create a good chance of netting the post.
265  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: April 12, 2024, 03:10:18 PM
This season in the European League we are considering Liverpool as the favorite team as much as Bayer Leverkusen. In our discussion it emerged that Liverpool and Bayer Leverkusen will qualify for this Europa League final. The Europa League quarter-final matches won't be as exciting because of how predictable the results are when a weak side is pitted against a strong opponent. Even if people don't watch the quarter-final games that way, all the semi-final games will be interesting and people will try to follow more European leagues from the semi-finals. Expect Liverpool and Bayer Leverkusen to qualify for the Europa League final this season and Liverpool to win the title by defeating Bayer Leverkusen in the final match.

However, if you look at the results in the first leg, where Liverpool lost 0-3, even though they were playing at home. I think Liverpool no longer has a big chance of qualifying for the semifinals or even more so the final. Their opportunities are not yet completely exhausted but it is clear that it will be a very tough struggle for Liverpool. Recently, Atalanta has not been playing well enough in Serie A but they still tend to be dangerous when playing at home.

Meanwhile, for Bayer Leverkusen, it looks like they will have it easy path to making it to the final because their performance is truly promising. Whoever the enemy is, it is likely that Leverkusen will always be ready to face their opponent.

Liverpool losing to Atlanta 0-3 on Anfield is one of the most surprising result of this year. Liverpool was supposed to dominate Europa league along with Leverkusen. But seems like Leverkusen would not likely meet Liverpool now. Having a 3 goal advantage and playing next leg on Italy, Atlanta would go on full defense and qualify for the semis.
On another surprise, AC Milan vs Roma played in Milan leading to 1 goal advantage to Roma may lead to Roma being qualified for the semis.
You know that these Italian clubs are more into defensive play pattern, and that is what will happen when Liverpool will face them in Italy. It will be a difficult task for Liverpool and I don't see anything good coming out from that match for Liverpool.

The reason is that they could not tale advantage of the chance of playing at home yesterday, and utilize that opportunity, but rather Klopp gambled with it by using players on the bench to start the match. I have no pity for them, as they deserved what they got.
266  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: What is the dark side of the currency circle that you must understand? on: April 12, 2024, 10:01:22 AM
Investing on the right coin as a beginner matters a lot and do your own research on that coin to know more about the coin. Bitcoin is the king of it all, and if you must invest in bitcoin, let it be in a long term. Don't see bitcoin as a get rich quick scheme.

Only invest with the amount of money that you will not be needing for a very long time. Don't store your coins in an exchange but use a noncustodial wallet that only you have the keys. Don't trade if you don't have the proper knowledge, because trading is very risky than investing and hodling for long-term.
267  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: April 11, 2024, 09:58:23 PM
I'm not surprised by this result, as I told you that the favorites don't always win. Atalanta may have caused many people to lose their bet slips today, but they did a great job. Liverpool can now focus on the Premier League rather than thinking about the Europa League. They're done here. They cannot turn around in Italy from 3-0. Good luck to Atalanta in the semi-finals. With Scamacca's two goals and Pasalic, Atalanta achieved a victory at Anfield Road that they will never forget for many years to come. Klopp's substitutions didn't yield results, Gasperini won the match without even making a change.

I'm really glad that Liverpool lost woefully and that Atalanta netted us one of our biggest losses in Europe. At least Klopp will have a rethink the next time he tries to make experiments in crucial games like today's. Players like Gakpo, Tsimikas and Elliot don't even start on regular basis yet he choose to start players that usually play from the bench in a crucial tie. The game was lost long before he made those second half sub to try and remedy the situation.

The dream of a quadruple is over now. Well played to the Liverpool lads. My team lost and I lost some of my recent wins on BcGame  Smiley
Liverpool have put a lot of gamblers at great loss, because no one expected so see such malfunction in Liverpool team today. I lost some funds but I am OK with it, since I saw the laxity and weakness in Liverpool, which was an advantage for their opponents.

Liverpool defence is weak, and when they concentrate on s c oring, they forget to think about the other side, which is what if Atalanta gets a counter. I couldn't believe that Atalanta took the game very easy and free compare to Liverpool. You will see it in their game pattern and how they scored the three goals, not with shot but the calmness. No club should be underestimated in European competitions.
268  Local / Nigeria (Naija) / Re: Never assume things, always Validate on: April 11, 2024, 01:36:34 PM
Assumption is very bad and have high negative effects. Just imagine say something happen, and you confirm the fact, you just rush take action. OP, wetin you talk na true talk, a lot of things don go wrong and most we no go fit correct am because of say we no validate the information before we act.

I know so many people wey go win but something wey dey important to them for market, when them price am na last two months but when them come ready to buy am, instead of them to confirm the price again, them go carry that particular amount of money go market, and when them reach market, the price change, e go come discourage them from buying the thing. Validation is important before we make conclusions, so that we will always be on the right track, and make the right decisions.
269  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: April 11, 2024, 12:42:42 PM
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Playing a draw at home is not always considered bad if Arsenal can provide a better game in the second leg (away match). Of course, Bayern Munich will likely be the favorite at home, but Arsenal is a good team who will most likely also win the second leg.

Manchester City and Arsenal both ended the first leg of the Champions League quarter-finals with a draw. They have good form to hope for a ticket to the semifinals, but Real Madrid and Bayern Munich also have the same chance in the second leg. This match will be very interesting of course, that's because all four teams still have a chance.
From this match it was clear that Arsenal dominated the game and they also managed to score the first score. Actually, if we look at Arsenal's performance then victory is in sight. Luckily, Bayern Munich got a penalty kick so they managed to make the result end in a draw. If Bayern Munich didn't managed to take advantage of this opportunity, Arsenal emerged as the winners. I am sure that in the second leg Arsenal will use their full strength to snatch victory from Bayern Munich.
I doubt that Arsenal can win this round, indeed both teams still have the same chance, but in the next match Arsenal will face Munich away, of course this will make Arsenal feel pressured and I'm not sure that even if Arsenal uses all their strength, Munich will also do the same thing, let alone competing at home will make Munich more confident to win.
We have seen Munich lost at home several times this season due to their poor form, and that is why Arsenal might be luck to win them at home for this reason. Apart from that, I don't think that it would have been possible for Arsenal to think of winning Bayern Munich in Germany.

Arsenal should see this match as a big challenge for them to use and advance to the semifinals and make record again, because it has been a very long time since Arsenal have qualified to the semifinals. It is a big challenge for them to meet up with maintaining their first position in EPL, and also going to win Bayern in Germany.
270  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: You will lose more if you DCA without knowledge on: April 11, 2024, 11:47:04 AM
so I say newbies should stay away from DCA until they have the knowledge of the risk and approach to DCA.
DCA strategy in accumulating bitcoin does not have any risk if it is done properly. It is the best method that a beginner or low coiner can use to accumulate bitcoin without stress, because he assign a certain amount of money that he can use to buy bitcoin regularly either weekly or monthly. DCA strategy is used to grow your bitcoin investment portfolio bit by bit until you have reached 70% of your bitcoin target.

The only risk in using DCA is if you do not have an emergency funds for back up or your are DCAing over aggressively, that is when it is risky, because when an emergency arises, you will go and sell your bitcoin that you have being accumulating when it is not of your own will. Why I said that DCA is easy is because, those people that are used to saving some certain amount from their income in the bank or somewhere so that they can use it to achieve something great in future will be easy to DCA because they are used to saving. Instead of saving cash in the bank or somewhere just use that money to buy bitcoin regularly.

No knowledge is needed for DCA, only the basic knowledge of bitcoin. Bitcoin investment should be for a long term.
271  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: How important is BTC hodl for a mining company? on: April 10, 2024, 04:12:23 PM
Since miners are into business, when they get their bitcoin reward, they pile them up till the bull run, and sell some fractions when it is needed to be be sold to cover operational expenses.

Majority of workers will love to be paid in bitcoin and that will help them a share to get paid. Miners knows how valuable bitcoin is which will make them always having the ones that they must hodli, and they will keep on stashing up their bags, because as time passes on the reward is reduced by halve.
272  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Recovering Litecoin wallet on: April 10, 2024, 02:22:35 PM
What i see here is default_wallet file (electrum doesn’t have a wallet.dat file only bitcoin core does) for a watch only wallet and also a public key that which is why you are seeing view only wallet when you import them. There is no way to actually get a private key from a watch only wallet file. And also the remembering of the password wouldn’t solve issue, you need to basically find where you kept the seed phrase or brute force it if you have a clue on the words on it.
I don't think that OP even knows 6 words from his seed phrase, and that is why brute force will be hard for OP. He should take his time and look for where he kept the wallet seed phrase, to enable him access his wallet.

OP, since you said that you did not add passphrase to your seed phrase, knowing where your seed phrase is, is the best option.
273  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do you feel when you experience violence while gambling on: April 10, 2024, 09:22:04 AM
The guy is not a matured gambler, and shoukd not gamble if he takes the advantage of one-on-one betting for granted. Assuming it was in a big casino would he make any noise, I guess not. I don't gamble with strangers that I meet anywhere, if I must gamble on land casinos, I don't do that because it is very dangerous, and can lead to such scenario that was mentioned by the OP.

Online casinos are the best to stake your bet based on privacy, and to avoid an uncomfortable environment. This is among one of the reasons why online casinos are more unique, because if you win, you get paid without complain or troubles,but this is only on trusted casinos with good reputation. This is one of the problem that we encounter when we gamble with the funds that we cannot afford to lose.
274  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: April 09, 2024, 08:36:15 PM
Bayern got a penalty in the 36th minute and Harry Kane stepped up to take it for sure, you just have to know his going to convert and he did as expected, the game is now Arsenal 1:2 Bayern Munich. Obviously the first half is going to be a loss yo Arsenal as I don’t see them coming back from this even with them being the better side. They would need to go in the dressing room for some tactical and morale boost talk from the manager and spring back to grab 2 goals in the second half, they just have to. This game is supposed to end in a win to Arsenal, it ain’t a game to end in a draw.

Real Madrid happens to be leading in their fixture against Manchester City as I hoped. Manchester City haven’t been in the best of form and that is what we are seeing here in the UCL.

So far the match is going well for Real Madrid favour, although is very tough for the both teams because there performance are also good, however I'm surprised to see that Manchester City is not too consistent on this match because they had the privilege of scoring the first goal but could not maintain it, although after they score the goal it was as if they woke the lion on Real Madrid because it was not upto 15 minutes they had already equalize and was leading Manchester City with 2-1.

Although I had already imagine the outcome of the match to be like this because real Madrid has been considered to be more experience than Manchester City in terms of champions league and perhaps that is exactly what they are using against them on this match, however Manchester City seem to have been dominating on this early minutes of this second half, however let's see if Manchester City will retaliate on this second half.
It is not over yet for Manchester city as Foden have brought hope back to the club by equizing the second goal with a beautiful finish on the 66th minutes to make it 2-2.

Gvardiol have scored with a powerful shot to put Manchester city on the lead on the 72nd mins. The game is 3-2 against Real Madrid.

On the other hand Arsenal have also equalized their goal with a by Trossad with a wonderful finish on the 76th minutes, and it is 2-2.
275  Economy / Speculation / Re: Buy the DIP, and HODL! on: April 09, 2024, 06:06:53 PM


You seem to have a misunderstanding of the DCA strategy in total.

The DCA strategy is not for poor people or for those with little income, it has nothing to do with how much you are earning the DCA strategy is simply dividing your capital into parts and investing or buying at intervals and this is done for some reason which is to.reduce the impact of volatility on yoir portfolio, you know that bitcoin is still a very volatile asset and to avoid situations where by you buy at a price and then the price dips and you portfolio would be at lose, but with the DCA method you get to buy at every intervals and price points so those fluctuations in price would not affect you, and why it is recommended here is beach it sis more beginners friendly and you don't need much knowledge other than to know how to buy and hold to get started with the DCA unlike the buying the dip strategy that involves some level of timing the market and more knowledge to be very successful at it. So yeah there is no barrier in using the DCA strategy.
So if you think you need to be rich before you invest in bitcoin then am afraid you are delaying your HODLing journey.
Yes, people don't need to be rich before they can start investing in bitcoin, but they need a good income source that can cover their expenses so they can accumulate bitcoin without finding it hard to solve their unforeseen financial problems. This will allow them to hold their bitcoin for the expected year they want to sell it. 

While going through you all comments on this thread, I had a thought may be one of a genius not to hype myself about it but what do you all think about Incorporating both the Dip and hold with the DCA strategies.

To further elaborate further, what if you only apply the DCA strategy when it’s a bear market that way you’re constantly buying BITCOIN at a low rate you can simply set a stop price in your head of when to stop buying more BITCOIN and simply hold till it’s next bear market, This would aid you in accumulating a lot more through this what do you guys think is it all craziness Huh
This is the worst of all strategy to use DCA only during bear market, and after the dip is over, you stop and wait for another circle to see another bear market. Poor investment idea on bitcoin compounding profit power, and poor bitcoin accumulation strategy. As a newbie like you who just want to start his/her bitcoin journey, all you need to do is to figure out the amount of money that you can set aside to buy bitcoin that will not affect your monthly needs. Maybe 10% shoukd be cool, so that you can also have your emergency funds ready, so that whatever emergency that arises would not be a problem to you on your continuous bitcoin accumulation.

After that, the next is to use Dollar Cost Average DCA, to enable you use that 10% of your income to buy bitcoin regularly either monthly or weekly, so that your bitcoin portfolio will keep on growing gradually as you keep on buying. You should understand that people that have no bitcoin or little bitcoin in their portfolio don't need to wait for a week without buying since they focus is to build your bitcoin investment to reach your bitcoin target. You should also know that the lowest price that you will buy bitcoin this bear market will not be the same price in the next bear market, because bitcoin price keeps increasing overtime.

This is why DCA is the best approach so that during the whole of one circle, you are busy accumulating regularly with DCA, and before you know it, you would have acquired a good fraction of bitcoin than when you are waiting to buy only during the bear market. That is why it is dangerous to wait because, time waits for no man, and your futire is drawing nearer. As long as you are on consistent DCA, you will buy bit2both during the bear market, when the market is sideways and in the bull market.
276  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Lottery Fever. What are your range of thoughts in response to Lucky Winners? on: April 09, 2024, 04:57:16 PM
Maybe I was hopeful to win a lottery ticket far back in time not now. Maybe I have become more knowledgeable and wiser to know such winning is not for everybody so I have to treat it with some unseriousness and don't keep my hope on it

In my jurisdiction, there has also been allegation of manipulation of the numbers that will become the winning numbers for the jackpot. Although this has not been proven but it is making the customers have some doubts in their mind.
I have not tried out any lottery game, because people that get those lottery tickets ends up not winning. I have only tried out the American visa lottery, but still I didn't win it. So I believe that lottery isn't my thing.

A friend of mine was lucky to hit the jackpot, and he invested the money into a business. He is doing well now and is successful. I believe that we all have our various time for us to be lucky, and not it is not compulsory that our luck most come from gamble.
277  Economy / Speculation / Re: Fulfill your dreams from Bitcoin, on: April 09, 2024, 03:38:05 PM
~snip
If you were a little patient and invested money from your family ($670) in bitcoin and kept your $500 in bitcoin, you could buy 2 computers. Smiley Halving hasn't even started yet, and you're already cashing out with a bitcoin sale and start shopping season. Don't you think we were a little hasty? Bitcoin will probably overcome the $100k mark within a year, and maybe even reach the level of $120-150k. You left the BTC-investor distance too early.

For the right BTC-investors, their dreams should come true when bitcoin reach new ATH. Smiley

By the way, what amount (the initial investment at that moment) brought you a profit of $500? I would like to know how many dollars it cost you, in fact, half of the computer.
Yea, you are right. OP, was in a rush, or maybe he did not think it this way, that if he was a little bit patient, he would have more profit from if bitcoin investment after the halving, instead of selling now.

I see that he is new in bitcoin, and might not know what the future of bitcoin would be like after the halving. He will start investing again, and buying bitcoin when the price is high, what he shoukd have waited, and see his bitcoin price increase in value. He would be able to buy his laptop, and still have some part of his bitcoin investment.
278  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: April 08, 2024, 03:33:33 PM
Heidenheim was able to score their third goal on the 79th minutes by T. Kleindienst to give them victory over Bayern Munich, as they failed to equalize the goal and share points. The point gap between Munich and Leverkusen is increasing, as it has increased to 16 points, making it impossible for Bayern Munich to close the points gap.

I don't know what is happening to Bayern Munich currently, as they have become inconsistent, and losing to smaller clubs. It might be a big problem for them when they clash with Arsenal in the Champions League. If Bayern Munich is not careful VfB Stuttgart might overtake them.
Bayern Munich seems to have lost their best playing form and they even seem to be very weak in the defensive area. Bayern Munich's defeat in that match made them even further behind Leverkusen, so it is certain that this season's title race is increasingly closed for them. This will be a bad season for Bayern Munich because despite having great players they fail to dominate.

I think the coach's ability is the problem because previously Bayern Munich did not play as badly as this season. The coach is much more responsible because he is the one who determines the strategy in playing so that good and bad results will be determined by the coach's strategy, although the players are also responsible for some of the bad results they get.
The problem with Bayern Munich this season seems to be the head coach and the Bayern Munich players, because anytime Bayern Munich is playing an away match, they always find it hard to beat their opponents, even though it is a small club. With the situation at Bayern Munich, no club is afraid of playing against Bayern Munich because they know Bayern Munich is a weak club now. 
It means that Tuchel should be sacked because he does not know how to coach the players, and come up with a game pattern that would be favorable to them. Bayern Munich was not like this before, but is like after the arrival of Tuchel, the club have lost its quality.

I hope that Bayern Munich will be able to bring in a professional coach that will bring back the club strength to the way it was before. I would not be surprised, if they don't advance to the semifinals. Tomorrow is not far, and we will see what Bayern Munich will play against Arsenal in the Champions League.
279  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you believe in gambling experts predictions? on: April 08, 2024, 02:51:58 PM
How can you believe someone's illusion? Is he a magician? If you want to play gamble or bet please play and don't depends on someone imagination and play and if you lose you won't blame him that he was the one who asked you to play the game through his prediction. Though I have seen friends doing those kind of prediction among themselves but for fun. And I have seen it for Lotto games players. They would just come and say, play this number and you will win. Op even if you win that bet, it is not because of your friend prediction and it is because of your luck.
And to your question, I don't believe gambling expert prediction, though some people would look at the team squad to predict but Chelsea that were losing everytime, won sometimes so nobody is an expert in sport (football) prediction.
It is better you don't gamble if you are depending on predictions from people, because you will not enjoy the fun in gambling. The reason why I said so is that, making your own research and coming out with a prediction that you stake on is another means of learning, and when you win the game, you will be proud that you made the right conclusions from your research.

Whoever, depends on results from people before they gamble, should not gamble, because it shows that they are after profit, and don't know what they are doing. It is better to make your own predictions and don't depend on others, so that you don't miss your luck.
280  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin the HERO we never knew we needed on: April 08, 2024, 01:04:50 PM
Since the inception of digital currency’s starting with the creation of Bitcoin by Sensei Satochi in January 2009.

Bitcoin was created Satoshi Nakamoto and not Sensei Satochi

My question to us right now do you think Bitcoin will eventually erase the commercial banking sector???
It is not possible for bitcoin to erase commercial banking sector, because that was not what bitcoin was created for. Bitcoin was created to be an alternative currency to fiat, and not to take over fiat. The volatile nature of bitcoin and the limited supply makes bitcoin not capable to take over from fiat. However, bitcoin is decentralized in nature, making it impossible for government to accept it and get rid of their fiat currency. Fiat is centralized and been controlled by the government, they print more money when they feel like, and use it to manipulate the system.

Bitcoin can only become the number one most profitable investment in future, and investors will see it as safe haven.
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