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261  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [200 GH] MaxBTC.com Pool - 5% Bonus, Zero Fee, DGM, LP, API, SSL, AWE, SOM, BBQ on: March 25, 2012, 10:23:57 PM
It was round 41 block 172375, before you made the fix. Got so disappointed that I dropped out for a few rounds, happily not for good!

looks like you picked a good time to take a break.

well, i was present all of block #47 and was issued .54 bitcoins for 4911 shares, the person right above me received .61 for 1685.

i first started in block #46, reached 5,901 shares, and received .38 bitcoins.  some fellow named NoodlesMcGee received .41 for for 5,499.. fair enough, since it seems like he's been around for a while.  in block 47, he received .32 for 1039 shares, vs (as mentioned earlier) .54 for 4911.  miners were running the whole time.  

i shifted some off after  seeing that, seems a bit extreme.  

the only time I came out ahead on a pool with a similar system was after I stopped mining

With block #47, we don't know what that person above you contributed in prior rounds.  You have to look at how many shares it takes to solve the block too.  You will have some earnings that carry over to the next round as well, as you pointed out.
262  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [200 GH] MaxBTC.com Pool - 5% Bonus, Zero Fee, DGM, LP, API, SSL, AWE, SOM, BBQ on: March 25, 2012, 02:19:48 PM
actually, c is way too low, giving a disproportionately large value to shares submitted near the end of the round.
That is truly fucked up. I received 0.00000025 BTC for my avg 222 MH /sec, whereas someone mining 10x less shares got 10,000x more reward that round. Even if you adjust the parameters I cannot see how it would be more profitable than deepbit for anyone who mines intermittently.

Oh, btw the pool rewards graph is one day early. Unless it's March 26th somewhere already...?

Which block was this on?  c being too low was fixed as of round 43, and the adjustment to the parameters was actually huge, despite the numbers looking small.  Round 45 was extremely long.. 4.8m shares, though we did end up paying out 57 BTC for it.  The further from the end you dropped out, the further reduced your rewards would be.  Also, it may take a few rounds of mining most of the time for your score to stabilize.  This is the nature of DGM.  If you're just mining for 10 minutes at a time here and there, a DGM pool is probably not the best option for you but you'll have to try it out and see.  Another feature of DGM is cross-round leakage.  As an example, GigaVPS stopped mining hours before round 45 was over but still got 0.67 BTC at 329k shares, and he hasn't mined at all yet on round 46 but if the round ended now he'd receive 0.31 BTC for it.

I believe that the graph will show anything mined on the current day UTC as belonging to the following day.
263  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [250 GH] MaxBTC.com Pool - 4% Bonus, Zero Fee, DGM, LP, API, SSL, AWE, SOM, BBQ on: March 24, 2012, 12:34:18 AM
So if I mine with the 3.50% there is still technically a -2% fee with the 4% bonus ('Cause of invalids counting).

Good idea making special features require people to donate, I haven't personally seen that before.

Oh and I love the website's stats pages, they are very organized and easy to read.

Thanks Smiley  It'd be a -0.88% fee (0.88% bonus).  The bonus is applied first and then donations are taken out.
264  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [200 GH] MaxBTC.com Pool - 5% Bonus, Zero Fee, DGM, LP, API, SSL, AWE, SOM, BBQ on: March 22, 2012, 09:40:19 PM
Just came over to the pool last night. Site looks great.

Submitted 270k shares in the last round and got paid .06 BTC because I left before the round what over.  Undecided

What kind of DGM settings do have have to decay shares so quickly and why?

Thanks for giving it a whirl.  You must have left pretty early in the round, which required 2.2m shares.  The values can all be seen here:  https://www.maxbtc.com/work-payouts?w=41

currently: f = 0.0505, c = 0.01, o = 0.8

edit:  actually, c is way too low, giving a disproportionately large value to shares submitted near the end of the round.

starting round 43, the values will be:  f = -0.1555, c = 0.1, o = 0.8
bonus is reduced to 4%

I'm open to suggestions, discussion on what those values should be.


I notice you plan to process payouts via moneybookers, just be cautious since they refuse to deal with any bitcoin-related trading.

I have another business that does 1000+ txns/day.  I was planning on funneling the Bitcoin withdrawals through that account.  Technically, withdrawing to MB or PayPal isn't really the same as selling Bitcoin.  We already have the Bitcoin.. we'd just be paying you for your hashing contribution with dollars instead but it's probably best to obfuscate the transaction just in case.
265  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [120 GH] MaxBTC.com Pool - 5% Bonus, Zero Fee, DGM, LP, API, SSL, AWE, SOM, BBQ on: March 20, 2012, 11:05:52 AM
Just joined. You might want to make the auto-payout feature dependent on the user inputting a wallet address first. I don't know how your system is designed to handle sending payouts to nothing.

Thanks for joining, and for the suggestion.  Currently, if you don't have a wallet address and you enable auto payouts, no payments will be sent but I do agree that we should probably just disable the auto payouts option (and direct users to enter a wallet address to enable it) for users who don't have a wallet address set yet.

edit:  this is now implemented.

I've been mining here since the beta.  It's been amazingly stable.  btcx has been very responsive to suggestions to improve the pool.  Plus, he's just a nice guy (which sadly can't be said about some other pool ops).

I give the pool 9 thumbs up!

Thanks, rando Smiley  Your suggestions and help with testing have been great.  Also, your mining operation is awesome!
266  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [120 GH] MaxBTC.com Pool - 5% Bonus, Zero Fee, DGM, LP, API, SSL, AWE, SOM, BBQ on: March 17, 2012, 05:31:53 AM
it's in the work payouts and somewhat in the mining activity under average fee.verage fee.

I joined today!  Nice pool, eta on namecoin?

BTW, Your stats are the best I've seen.

Thanks and welcome aboard Smiley  Shooting for merged mining with Namecoin to launch at the end of next week.  I'll keep you posted.
267  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [120 GH] MaxBTC.com Pool - 5% Bonus, Zero Fee, DGM, LP, API, SSL, AWE, SOM, BBQ on: March 15, 2012, 07:03:53 PM
it's in the work payouts and somewhat in the mining activity under average fee.
268  Bitcoin / Pools / [CLOSED] MaxBTC.com Pool - Closed Indefinitely Aug 3rd 2013 on: March 14, 2012, 06:37:34 AM
UPDATE 03/Aug/2013:  MaxBTC.com Pool has closed indefinitely.  Payouts will be processed within the next 48 hours.  Big thanks to all our miners!  Hopefully, we can continue our relationship over at Kraken.com

Hey guys, we've just opened our Bitcoin mining pool up to the public.  I hope you give it a test run and let us know what you think!

https://www.maxbtc.com

Features:
Merged mining with NameCoin
Zero Fees
Double Geometric Payout Method
Long Polling
Automatic & Manual Payouts to 8 Decimal Places
Configurable Idle Miner Notification
Email & Wallet Locking/Unlocking
Mining on Ports 8332 & 80
SSL
API
Two-Factor Authentication with Yubikey and Google Authenticator (HOTP and TOTP)
Support Ticket System & Community Forums
Awesome Stats & Graphs
Direct & Instant Payouts to Ogrr.com


Coming Soon:
Withdrawal to PayPal & Moneybookers
269  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Selling $100k+ 50ghs+ Bitcoin Mining Operation w/ 104x 6990s [CLOSED] on: February 24, 2012, 03:34:35 AM
I think the HAF X would have been easier, yes.  I don't remember why we didn't get those.. maybe they weren't available at the time.  Temps stayed lower with the cases closed, and temps will depend a lot on what your external temps are.  I don't remember what those temps were.

I've managed to work out a deal with someone on the forums to take all these rigs off my hands.  Thanks everyone for your interest.

Btw, we could use some help testing our our DGM pool, which is currently at 47gh and paying a 5% bonus:  https://ogrr.com/viewtopic.php?f=373&t=1042
270  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Selling $100k+ 50ghs+ Bitcoin Mining Operation w/ 104x 6990s on: February 23, 2012, 01:48:55 AM
why do you have 1200W AND 850W ?

You could run those on a 1200 easily.

measured pull is up to 1600w
271  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Selling $100k+ 50ghs+ Bitcoin Mining Operation w/ 104x 6990s on: February 22, 2012, 08:28:27 AM
Some people have been asking for exact specs so here it goes.  Also, updated offer at the bottom.


Case (1):
1 x ($125) COOLER MASTER HAF 932 Advanced RC-932-KKN5-GP Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case with USB 3.0, Black Interior and Four Fans-1x 230mm front RED LED, 1x 140mm rear, 1x 230mm top, and 1x 230mm side
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119160


PSU (3):
1 x ($220) Antec TPQ-1200 1200W Continuous Power with PowerCache Technology SLI Ready CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371032
AND
1 x ($135) OCZ OCZ-ZX850W ZX Series Modular Power Supply - 850W, 80 Plus Gold, 140mm Fan, Active PFC, SLI & CrossFire Ready
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7213993
AND
1 x ($15) Bitspower X-Station Multi-PSU Active Module (Color - Various)
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=23350
(note that this device did not work as intended.. I'm told that a newer version does.  We ended up using it just to jump the 2nd PSU to always-on, plus lights look cool).


Motherboard (1):
1 x ($180) MSI 890FXA-GD70 AM3+ AMD 890FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130274


CPU (2):
1 x ($60) AMD HD700EOCK3DGI Phenom II X3 700e Processor - Triple Core, 6MB L3 Cache, 1.5MB L2 Cache, 2.40 GHz, Socket AM3, 65W, No Fan, OEM
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=186118
AND
1 x ($20) COOLER MASTER Hyper TX3 RR-910-HTX3-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" 92mm CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103064


Memory (2)
1 x ($28) G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-10600CL8D-2GBHK
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231134
OR
1 x ($27) Kingston 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model KVR1333D3K2/2GR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820134788


Video Card (3):
3 x ($735) MSI R6990-4PD4GD5 Radeon HD 6990 4GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127574
OR
3 x ($740) GIGABYTE GV-R699D5-4GD-B Radeon HD 6990 4GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card with Eyefinity
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125370
OR
3 x ($725) XFX HD-699A-ENF9 Radeon HD 6990 4GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card with Eyefinity
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=55285


Storage (1):
1 x ($6) Team Color Turn 4GB USB 2.0 Flash Drive (Purple) Model TG004GE902V
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313060
OR
1 x ($6) Kingston DataTraveler 100 Generation 2 4GB USB 2.0 Flash Drive Model DT100G2/4GBZ
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820139291


Extra Stuff (3):
1 x ($10) Arctic Silver ACN-60ML (2-PC-SET) Thermal material Remover & Surface Purifier - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835100010
AND
1 x ($13) ARCTIC COOLING Arctic Cooling MX-4 AC-MX4 4 gram (g) All-Around Thermal Compound
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186038
AND
1 x ($7) Gardner Bender 11 In. Natural Nylon Cable Ties (Pkg. Of 100)
http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-100015143/h_d2/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10053

Estimated total cost of each machine, not counting time/labor/shipping/tax:  $2963.00

25 machines x $2963 = $74075, discount @ 25% = $55,556 = $2200 each.
29 extra 6990s x $725 = $21025, discount @ 25% = $15,769 = $540 each.
Total = $71,000.
Take it all and I deliver within US for $65,000.
Take it all and pick it up in Tennessee for $60,000.
I will consider a payment plan of up to 6 months for trusted individuals who wish to take it all.
I will consider a reward split maintenance agreement for some one with power <= $0.06 kwh.
272  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Selling $100k+ 50ghs+ Bitcoin Mining Operation w/ 104x 6990s on: February 20, 2012, 03:27:26 AM
Yeah... I guess it isn't so much about density, as it is about convincing the owner of the location to rent me the space and pay for the power at a decent rate. I'll have to sit on this one for a bit and run some numbers.

Unless you can find a former data center or something, getting the concentration of power you need could prove difficult.  Sure, if you've got a giant house, you could put one machine in each room but then you have to deal with cooling and ventilation and trip hazards for the entire house.  Ideally, you can get 400 amps coming off of one wall, where you can box them all up, cool them without cooling your entire building, and shoot the exhaust outside.  Really, this probably won't make sense for anyone spending > $0.07/kwh.
273  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Selling $100k+ 50ghs+ Bitcoin Mining Operation w/ 104x 6990s on: February 20, 2012, 03:20:06 AM
I have the funds to take a lot off your hands if you decide to use multiple buyers at 25K or so but in that other thread you quoted 6990s at about $200 above market price for singles so not sure what your expectations really are.. In any case if you decide to split into a couple of large shipments I'll be standing by..

You're right.. I can't find any 6990s for sale at retail but I think the last price I paid was $700 a piece.  I don't know if there is still a premium for them but 104 cards * $700 = $72.8k.  So, there are really 2 components to this:  25 rigs, 29 extra 6990s + other hardware.  The 29 cards might not be that hard to flip for $20k.  In determining whether and how to split up the rigs, I'm considering how much of a hassle it's going to be to get them to the new owners.  They're all in Tennessee now.  Where are you?
274  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Selling $100k+ 50ghs+ Bitcoin Mining Operation w/ 104x 6990s on: February 20, 2012, 01:10:10 AM
Unfortunately, the pic you saw of them all stacked together in the garage is a pic of them in their current form.  They're all offline and will not be reassembled in to their mining form.  If you could do a setup like the guy in the above video, they won't take up that much space.  It all comes down to your available power density, cooling/ventilation setup.
275  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Selling $100k+ 50ghs+ Bitcoin Mining Operation w/ 104x 6990s on: February 19, 2012, 06:48:35 PM
yeah, sorry.. these should be about 12.5-13.5 amps each, 120v @ 1500-1600w.  I think we were getting around 2.4 ghs per machine @ ~1600w.

What your overhead will be will depend a lot on your space/setup.  These guys have a pretty good one:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5f_e4P6gMA



276  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Selling $100k+ 50ghs+ Bitcoin Mining Operation w/ 104x 6990s on: February 19, 2012, 06:16:56 PM
You are going to need about 400 amps to handle these 25 machines @ ~16 amps each.
277  Economy / Marketplace / Selling $100k+ 50ghs+ Bitcoin Mining Operation w/ 104x 6990s [CLOSED] on: February 19, 2012, 06:00:21 PM
I have 25 complete, built and running 3x 6990 mining rigs (about 2100 mhs each), and another 29 loose/new 6990s, as well as some other bits that could probably make 5 more complete rigs. Well over $100,000.00 USD put in to this operation. All are located in Tennessee but I'm willing to have them delivered just about anywhere in the US/Canada. I'm seeking one, or a combination, of two options:

1. Sell all the gear outright for something in the area of $75,000.00 USD. Willing to do payments over time for a trusted party.
2. Find someone with the knowledge, time, infrastructure and cheap power (< $0.10/kwh) to run and maintain these systems. Willing to split a share of the mining rewards.

I might be willing to break the sale of the systems up but probably wouldn't do less than 3x $25k.

If you have any interest, please post here or PM me on this forum or over at Ogrr.com

Original post w/ pics:  https://ogrr.com/viewtopic.php?f=74&t=1139
278  Bitcoin / Pools / Need Feedback and Help Testing New Pool - Rewards Offered on: February 19, 2012, 02:10:54 PM
Not expecting to find any blocks while hashrate is low (though if we do, they'll be paid) so we're offering some guaranteed rewards to help test the pool for at least the next few days.

Instructions here:
https://ogrr.com/viewtopic.php?t=1042

Any help testing or feedback is much appreciated!
279  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Proposal: Bitcoin Conference San Francisco - March 3rd-4th 2012 on: February 18, 2012, 08:25:59 AM
I might be able to make this actually.

Any ideas where it would be held? Who would be speaking? What can we expect out of the conference?

Good questions.  This idea just came up within the last hour so we don't have much of a plan yet.  The last Silicon Valley Meetup had quite a few people at it, a lot working on interesting stuff.  It's now 12:20am Saturday morning in California so we may not have anything concrete to offer for a few days.  I'll spend the weekend getting in touch with local academics, venture capitalists, attorneys, entrepreneurs, all the Bitcoiner engineers at Google, Facebook, etc who might have anything to share.  Hopefully, by Wednesday we can have at least a rough idea of what things will look like.

There was also some talk of chartering a giant bus to drive a brigade of Bitcoiners from SF to SXSW sometime March 7th-9th.
280  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Proposal: Bitcoin Conference San Francisco - March 3rd-4th 2012 on: February 18, 2012, 07:54:53 AM
First, nobody I've spoken with has been able to confirm that the San Antonio conference is actually happening.

I realize it's short notice for 2012 but a bunch of guys were already planning on meeting in San Francisco early March so we figured why not make a conference out of it.  Who knows if we can put anything legit together in a matter of 2 weeks but at least we'll set some precedent for next year.

Here's why March 3rd-4th:

Nice weather.
Game Developer's Conference in San Francisco happens March 5th-9th.
SXSW happens in Austin, Texas Marth 9th-18th, which many people we'd like to have attend our SF conference will be at.
This puts it 5-6 months apart from the NYC conference, if that is to happen again.

So, in doing in the weekend of March 3rd-4th, we potentially grab some GDC early birds, and we can catch local guys before they take off for SXSW.  And, if you want to stay a few days beyond the Bitcoin conference, you can stand around outside the Moscone Center and drop Bitcoin propaganda on the GDC attendees.

Thoughts?
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