NAP = Someone steps on my property, I defend myself
Democracy = Someone tells me they must step on my property, if I protest, they attack me
Hmmm... Typical democracy: Someone steps on my land, I defend myself NAP: He with the most guns wins In a typical democracy the one with the most guns (govt and by extension it's cronies) are the big winners as far as I can see. If you are friendly with (or buy off) politicians you are a winner. Please answer the question posed in my last post. |
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Ever since I said that the Matrix theory was older than Pilgrims, I wanted to prove it.
When I was like 14, I was into Gnosticism and Archons and I ran into a page on Wikipedia. According to my memory, it was about the middle ages, and demons called "Flyers" that create an illusionary world for us to believe in, while they farm us like in the Matrix (aka we die).
But I can't find the article. I've tried all variations of: Flyers, Gliders, Demons, Middle Ages, Illusion, False Reality, Matrix
And I can't find it...
The Matrix put nothing new in my head, nor did it affect me in any deep way, either emotionally, or in a cerebral way. Watch my movie selections. Trust me. I mean, it put new stuff in my head, but I was 5 when I saw it, so most of the stuff in the Matrix was new to me. But I was on mushrooms with some friends once, and they were all talking about the Matrix, and I was just kinda sitting there silently thinking about all their words. And I finally decided to speak, and I said: "Its just like, a movie about having all the cheat codes in a video game". And they all felt really stupid for talking about it like it was such an important movie. Even the difference between being "in" and "out" of the matrix. It's just like a gamer contrasting his own shitty reality (living in his mom's basement) to the game (being a awesome murder hero). And he's even a hacker, he just "mods" life. And the programmers (people like mouse, Morpheus, etc) are all amazed because they have to go through shit tons of code, and still can't make things like that happen in the game. "Video Game Jesus". The Matrix just isn't deep. Period. Watch Edward Yang's Yi Yi, and you'll realize there is a higher level of cinema. A random Google search yielded this review linked below. I don't necessarily want you to read it all the way through, as there may be spoilers, but you might read the first paragraph or so to get an idea of the greatness of the film. See review: http://www.reverseshot.com/article/13_yi_yi |
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Which is deeper?
And how can I get deeper still, I wish to explore.
My asshole is deeper than those movies. The Matrix theory has been around since before Pilgrims, and Inception was just like "Let's go six layers in, but not actually get into any real world dream science." Pretty much agreed. I'll keep repeating myself until someone gets it. Watch these instead: 2001: A Space Odyssey: Humanity's place in the Universe The Face of Another: Psychological study of identity and its meaning Pale Flower: Nihilism and self destruction Yi Yi: Affirmation of being human The Human Condition: Being defiant within a war machine Woman in the Dunes: Another muse on identity and its role in society Sansho the Bailiff: I don't know where to begin 2046: A meditation on love and longing In the Mood for Love: same as above Days of Being Wild: same as above Definitely will check them out. Have you seen I Heart Huckabees? I have not. I don't even think I've heard of it. I'll look it up. Now, in regard to deepness, my selections, although most are unheard of to the crowd here, are rather famous (2001 being obvious), but the other selections are major, just not to Joe Sixpack and Soccer Mom Sally. I think most of those picks are on the top 100 films of all time, on several polls, and picks of critics and film festivals worldwide. In other words, I'm not just naming some obscure favorites of mine - I'm naming cinematic treasures. They are deep, profound, beautiful, thought provoking, and emotionally affecting. But you've got to be willing to watch subtitles, and in some cases, black and white. If that puts you off, then you're just not choosing to walk through that door which leads to other cultural riches of cinema. Are you going to step through that door? I didn't just list a movie I liked either, it's a crazy movie about coincidence, and will power, and giving in to the flow. Or not giving in. It may not be a classic or a "cinematic gem", but it's an awesome movie about human nature and the universe. I'm down to read subtitles, once I get into a movie, I don't even realize I'm reading. You've just been handed gold. And I will take a look at your suggestion. Thank you. |
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Ever since I said that the Matrix theory was older than Pilgrims, I wanted to prove it.
When I was like 14, I was into Gnosticism and Archons and I ran into a page on Wikipedia. According to my memory, it was about the middle ages, and demons called "Flyers" that create an illusionary world for us to believe in, while they farm us like in the Matrix (aka we die).
But I can't find the article. I've tried all variations of: Flyers, Gliders, Demons, Middle Ages, Illusion, False Reality, Matrix
And I can't find it...
The Matrix put nothing new in my head, nor did it affect me in any deep way, either emotionally, or in a cerebral way. Watch my movie selections. Trust me. |
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Which is deeper?
And how can I get deeper still, I wish to explore.
My asshole is deeper than those movies. The Matrix theory has been around since before Pilgrims, and Inception was just like "Let's go six layers in, but not actually get into any real world dream science." Pretty much agreed. I'll keep repeating myself until someone gets it. Watch these instead: 2001: A Space Odyssey: Humanity's place in the Universe The Face of Another: Psychological study of identity and its meaning Pale Flower: Nihilism and self destruction Yi Yi: Affirmation of being human The Human Condition: Being defiant within a war machine Woman in the Dunes: Another muse on identity and its role in society Sansho the Bailiff: I don't know where to begin 2046: A meditation on love and longing In the Mood for Love: same as above Days of Being Wild: same as above Definitely will check them out. Have you seen I Heart Huckabees? I have not. I don't even think I've heard of it. I'll look it up. Now, in regard to deepness, my selections, although most are unheard of to the crowd here, are rather famous (2001 being obvious), but the other selections are major, just not to Joe Sixpack and Soccer Mom Sally. I think most of those picks are on the top 100 films of all time, on several polls, and picks of critics and film festivals worldwide. In other words, I'm not just naming some obscure favorites of mine - I'm naming cinematic treasures. They are deep, profound, beautiful, thought provoking, and emotionally affecting. But you've got to be willing to watch subtitles, and in some cases, black and white. If that puts you off, then you're just not choosing to walk through that door which leads to other cultural riches of cinema. Are you going to step through that door? |
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Which is deeper?
And how can I get deeper still, I wish to explore.
My asshole is deeper than those movies. The Matrix theory has been around since before Pilgrims, and Inception was just like "Let's go six layers in, but not actually get into any real world dream science." Pretty much agreed. I'll keep repeating myself until someone gets it. Watch these instead: 2001: A Space Odyssey: Humanity's place in the Universe The Face of Another: Psychological study of identity and its meaning Pale Flower: Nihilism and self destruction Yi Yi: Affirmation of being human The Human Condition: Being defiant within a war machine Woman in the Dunes: Another muse on identity and its role in society Sansho the Bailiff: I don't know where to begin 2046: A meditation on love and longing In the Mood for Love: same as above Days of Being Wild: same as above |
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Key words: trophic cascades, riparian zones, ungulates, water supply, wolves, ecosystem services.
Also: symbiotic relationships, companionship.
Answer: kill the family. Save the canines.
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"Self-defense for a group of people"?
WTF are you talking about? An innocent pilot shooting a terrorist trying to commandeer his plane to kill the passengers and people on the ground?
The pilot's act is a lawful killing, and not murder, not an act of aggression, only defense of innocent life. Stop redefining murder to make some convoluted point.
Who judges these cases? |
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Title says it all. And please, don't hesitate to discuss, disagree, and converse. Nothing is more boring than lack of dialog. Shall I start? I think not. I'll chime in after the ball is rolling.
And if you can't think of ten directors, that's fine. List five. Or three. Or seven.
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NAP = Someone steps on my property, I defend myself
Democracy = Someone tells me they must step on my property, if I protest, they attack me
Hmmm... Typical democracy: Someone steps on my land, I defend myself NAP: He with the most guns wins |
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Who has watched some films from the Taiwanese New Wave or the Taiwanese Second Wave?
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It will have to be In the Mood for Love
Can you elaborate, as if you were actually a fan of the movie, or Wong's work? |
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The Eagle Shooting Heroes was produced by Wong though. He didn't direct it. Same with Chinese Odyssey 2.
Really I didn't know that but I like both of them still. I have read the books, so it is good to see it in movie. Wong Kar-Wai is an auteur. His style is very recognizable. Which Wong Kar-Wai film(s) do you like the best, not including The Grandmaster? |
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I have seen:
The Grandmaster
In the Mood for Love
2046
Chungking Express
My Blueberry Nights
Ashes of Time
Days of Being Wild
Fallen Angels
The Eagle Shooting Heros <-- Actually I like this one a lot
Chinese Odyssey 2002
Ahh. A comprehensive list. More than me. I see that Eros and As Tears Go By are missing from your list. I have seen: Days of Being Wild Ashes of Time Redux Chungking Express In the Mood for Love 2046 I have the Blu-ray for Fallen Angels and expect to watch it soon. I'm going to take a pass on My Blueberry Nights, given what I've heard of it. As for the ones I've seen, I've seen them two to four times each. I love Wong Kar-Wai. The Eagle Shooting Heroes was produced by Wong though. He didn't direct it. Same with Chinese Odyssey 2. |
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Are you familiar with Tony Leung in his most famous roles - notably in Wong Kar-Wai films? Also, he was in Ang Lee's Lust, Caution, which I really want to see, and Tran Anh Hung's Cyclo, which I really want to see. I actually met Tony Leung in person, once when I was a little kid. He just started to get famous. Most of Tony Leung's film is quite good. Have you seen his newest film? The Grandmaster http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1462900/. Ziyi Zhang is also in it, too. I have not seen Wong Kar-Wai's latest, but I definitely want to. I'm torn, because the American cut is in the theaters, yet the Chinese cut is the one that most reflects Wong Kar-Wai's muse. Which Wong Kar-Wai films have you seen? Which ones did you like? I think you should watch the Chinese Cut. The ending in the American cut should be different. Actually I think his latest The Grandmaster is the best. Sounds good. My suspicions are that the Chinese Cut is the one to watch. But you didn't answer my other question. Which Wong Kar-Wai films have you seen? |
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So I watched Mikio Naruse's Mother last night, starring Kinuyo Tanaka. So that now makes ten Naruse films for me!
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The Notebook
27 Dresses
Atonement
The Vow
50 First Dates
A Walk to remember
10 Things I Hate About You
I think Joe Wright's Pride & Prejudice surpasses his Atonement, but I did like Atonement. |
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Matrix > Inception > Matrix 2 > A poke in the eye with a blunt stick > Matrix 3
Saying something is greater than a poke in the eye with a blunt stick isn't saying much. And by extension, saying something is greater than something that is greater than a poke in the eye with a blunt stick isn't saying much. And by extension, saying something is greater than something that is greater than something that is greater than a poke in the eye with a blunt stick isn't saying much. And thus we can't truly conclude that The Matrix is anything great at all. And by extension, we can't conclude that Inception is anything great at all. And by further extension, we can't conclude that Matrix 2 is anything great at all. This is troubling for those seeking whether such films might be enriching. Alternatively, I have offered some film recommendations that are not only greater than a poke in the eye with a blunt stick, but just plain great. Maybe I should have broken it up into two statements: - Matrix > Inception > Matrix 2
- A poke in the eye with a blunt stick > Matrix 3
I am sure that there may be some debate as to whether the first statement is in the correct order. But I doubt that there would be many people who would disagree with the second statement  This doesn't change anything. We still don't really know if The Matrix is better than getting crapped on by an elephant. Even that's not saying much of anything either. Is The Matrix better than eating green eggs and ham in a box with a fox? Is it better than eating green eggs and ham in house with a mouse? We don't know these things. I truly doubt it's as mentally stimulating and mind bending as The Face of Another though. Nor do I believe it's as profound as Yi Yi. |
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Matrix > Inception > Matrix 2 > A poke in the eye with a blunt stick > Matrix 3
Saying something is greater than a poke in the eye with a blunt stick isn't saying much. And by extension, saying something is greater than something that is greater than a poke in the eye with a blunt stick isn't saying much. And by extension, saying something is greater than something that is greater than something that is greater than a poke in the eye with a blunt stick isn't saying much. And thus we can't truly conclude that The Matrix is anything great at all. And by extension, we can't conclude that Inception is anything great at all. And by further extension, we can't conclude that Matrix 2 is anything great at all. This is troubling for those seeking whether such films might be enriching. Alternatively, I have offered some film recommendations that are not only greater than a poke in the eye with a blunt stick, but just plain great. |
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