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261  Economy / Speculation / Re: On whales and their impact on: March 25, 2019, 10:43:42 PM
I'm strongly inclined to think that much of the market manipulation we see these days is caused by cryptocurrency exchanges alone.
This is the strong point of your thread that I am strongly agree with although your all point alsmot true. Exchange themselves are involve with manipulation. They can manipulate easily if they want. Actually whales are not only manipulate but also play pump dump. To be honest whales will not sell on loss. They buy on dip and start manipulate or pump when they need to sell. Exchanges and whales both are playing with our money. They will never lose, because they are player and they are umpire. So obviously they are winner always.

These whales will do great and eventually manipulate the price when they seen how their profit will go a long way. But for the current price movements right now, I don't we'll be experiencing back fast increasing crypto price. I agree their all winners at the same time, but as we played with them cleverly you'll be able to benefit from their end as they pumped up the price by buying more assets. Being smart is always the key to earn good profit as bull run initiates because of whales, and the smaller fish like us ate small portion of food that eventually brought us sustainable earnings by the time price hits the bullseye.
262  Economy / Speculation / Re: what will make bitcoin price to brake its all time high on: March 25, 2019, 10:16:01 PM
Not only adoption in payment and transactions but also acceptance of bitcoin by authorities is crucial for seeing a higher price than its ATH. Manipulators are actually making this process slow down for their short term interest.

Bitcoin has been all time high since last 2017 and with early 2018 without the acceptance of authority yet. This has been ultimately gaining good price increase that time but unfortunately it went down drastically. Even though there's no prescence of government regulation, bitcoin could rise back to it's peak price more than last bull run. We should wait for the right time to commence in, and patience is really needed in order to survive towards future success and better choose longer terms trading strategy.
263  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you think you are a gambling expert? on: March 25, 2019, 08:53:55 PM
I have never been a gambling expert. I played it for fun, some time i won but as i progressed i lost everything. I don't understand how you can be a gambling expert, its just a lucky thing.

Nobody can admit to be gambling expert as long as you been into operation of betting site, and you're running a casino then finally we're to be considered as expert to that field of gambling. However, winning lucky prizes in a particular betting games is a lucky day for us and I don't think it's a continuous process. Because everything is always a good chance and not permanent thing on gambling.
264  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How gambling sites can cheat you on: March 25, 2019, 08:09:31 AM
Those are hypothetical situations... Not everyone thinks on scamming their Users that way.
Let's face it, if someone would want to do that they would be negating any profitable user in their end.
If an High Roller gets to be hit with that sort of cheat, they will eventually leave the Casino.

But its more profitable for them to selective scam customers that deposit large amounts.  They can't make enough noise to warn other players.   Scam casinos do things like changing your address, deleting your account, running indefinite KYC check, calling you a cheater and voiding your play.
This should be understood that not all the gambling sites are legit and genuine. There are different way in which the costumers and users in the gambling sites are cheated and manipulated. Not all of them are cheaters. But yeah those who want to make money in gambling should know the ABC of gambling. Without enough knowledge, I believe you bets could be risky.

Even with non gambling investments, risk is there all the time and we can't be excempted to that. The probability of getting involved to those other scam gambling sites which isn't legit, will always making innocent people be on their traps. Cheaters will try to deceive you by false promises like winning bigger amount of prices, so always be careful and don't get attracted by brilliant gambling site adds. Know how their site works and by the time you'll gain such full knowledge about the gambling site's system, then trust in you will be built.
265  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The problem of getting bitcoin in the future on: March 24, 2019, 10:52:03 PM
Why are you even thinking about those things? bitcoin is already applied to many services, merchants, stores and other stuffs that we can use and exchange together with real products. It's not really a problem if you ever think about what you have said.

There's already a true use case for bitcoin and the gov't is even the one that wants to integrate with it. Bitcoin isn't even forcing itself to get attached with gov'ts but the gov'ts are the ones that are pushing themselves to it, why? because bitcoin is usable and has a large market cap that they can take advantage.


Indeed, that's agreeable mate and when government has been successfully engage cryptocurrency to their system they'll fully can control it. I think that's our biggest problem in the future when that happens, which isn't good for us who holds crypto. There will be a possible crash of price, due to more holder cannot withstand against such regulations imposted by government leaders. I can't say it in general but there might be possibilities, some leaders will be greed enough to make the situation be overpowered by them. Our financial freedom will not be as free as what we're experiencing today, and certain circumstances might arise if crypto becomes controllable by government authorities.
266  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you find Success in Gambling? on: March 24, 2019, 10:30:28 PM
Success means at the end we can get the profit but a lots of people including me will not get the success at the end because overconfidence without investment is made the confident to a negative way of investment it definitely leads to getting lost only at the end.
So far everyone here has talked about loss and how much they have lost in gambling etc. Why in the first place do you guys enter the gambling if you cannot make money in it? It is a big industry and is valued around 530 billion dollars but if it is how the industry makes money, do not be a part of it. But there are people who are making big profits out of gambling industry so better work on the way things happen. DO not just rely on luck.
Luck is just a motivations that every person was bounded to take in mindset, to which they most thought about winning be relied on. Other people expects they will earn a lot of money from gambling but in reality, as they go further success didn't come to commence. However, as good shots hit the target on gambling probably the winning day is yours and not by luck because that's your game of chance which everyone of us is worthy of.
267  Economy / Gambling / Re: ♨️🎲 WINDICE.io 🎲 Choose your lucky number 🔰 Progressive Faucet💰 Jackpots 🎁❤ on: March 22, 2019, 02:08:46 PM
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It good to hear an awesome feedback from you buddy. Although, almost windice users would have know by now how committed windice is in terms of fulfilling their promises and providing their customers the necessary services need but your feedback make things more better.
It's the most important thing that we should need to know from the betting sites, because of the assurance which most gamblers wanted due to lucky profit. Most importantly if windice had given their customers an achievements behind that promises, then more new opportunities will come over which soon become a growing demand. New bettors could initiate further, so we're able to see potential profit happens.
268  Economy / Economics / Re: Who are benefited with cryptocurrency? on: March 21, 2019, 10:41:10 PM
There is no way to know who controls the market, I believe that the level we are today would have to be a joint action in order to have some influence on the flow of btc.
who benefit from cryptocurrency are all of us investors. because business people who use crypto will definitely enjoy the benefits by being given convenience in every trade, so crypto is for anyone and for all who want, so no one group can control the market all will have a share in crypto.
All of us we can manipulate the crypto market if we really want to do that, because we are not only user we are also a investor that can cause for the bitcoin to rise and dump. Everyone will get benefits once the market rise because they will sell their bitcoin if they want.
But if you are billionaire maybe you can control your market but only a little flow only because if you have big shares once you sell it price decreaswe but better to invest more instead of selling.
Probably we could do that if we're like those whales who had that huge profit to used for manipulation, but if we don't just closely monitor the market and be silent about it. The big whales can do whatever they can as long as the market remained actively driven towards trading capacity. I think we've been benefited by cryptocurrency once they've been taking over the market price increase so all of us who had small asset grabbed the opportunity, while those whales definitely took the command for price increase manipulation. We're just small fish, and it not possible to take in effect to which we buy some portion which the bigger ones will have.
269  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: risk in hodling and trading strategy on: March 21, 2019, 10:21:04 PM
trading does have a very high risk, but with such a high risk I prefer trading compared to just holding.
holding not thinking too much about the strategy, they just wait for the price to go up to sell the tokens they have.

Traders are scared of the risk involved in trading and prefer to keep hodling till the positive movement that will prompt them to sell. Personally, my hodling ability is more stronger than my trading because i lost more when i trade and nothing when i hodl. Actually, there is always a positive result when you HODL.

So they cannot make a profit if they are scared to trade because if they dare to trade and they are willing to learn more in trading, then I am sure that they have a chance to get the profit. Besides that, trading will be the way for them to increase the number of every coin they have and not just holding for a long time. With making a trading strategy, we could find a good time to buy and sell, and the best is we could use the chance to make a profit.

I guess that's day trading strategy, but I don't think it can help sustain the price of bitcoin to increase that fast. I may take long terms to wait and hold your asset is the best ways to grow your asset, so keep going and don't give up your funds. Make it as your main source of other income, and in order to survive you should learn self control. It's very important because once you have that with you, you will gain self confidence and determinations towards achieving your entire goals in life as well as managing your holdings.
270  Economy / Speculation / Re: btc's possible next moves on: March 21, 2019, 09:34:46 PM
Once BTC touches the $4800 levels as speculated by you, I don’t see it getting anything below $4k levels again, it might be possible for us to see the $4k line because many people with smaller coins may sell their coin thereby forcing the price drop a bit but not to the extent of going below $4k because the major players are not willing to dance to the tune of $4k trend but rather aiming at $10k trend and above before creating any form of action on their holdings.

I am very much sure about big rally in coming months. But, we cannot be sure about any immediate movement as of now. Bitcoin market may enter into direct bull rally from here or may dip up to $3.8k levels before getting ready for bull markets. It will be a slight fluctuations hence we can make use of any dips if occurs.

Yes that would be possible to happen, so we will be expecting more fluctuating price in the next coming days. Price these days started to swing a little bit high but unfortunately it didn't sustain and sadly it fall back down. However, even though it was worst to see but many of us hope for the best that will going to happen. These move cannot be predicted compared to what previous years been through, and this really surprised everybody once bulls really commence randomly.
271  Economy / Speculation / Re: This has happened in the past! on: March 21, 2019, 08:07:32 AM
I find it remarkable that people are depressed about Bitcoin being $4K USD. I remember when BTC was $60. I remember when it was $120. I remember when it was $225. I regret ever selling any BTC I have ever owned from the $60 price point and up. HODL. 

Regrets won't help us recover what we've lost, and instead of putting off stressful life because of that reasons don't give up. We still have bigger chances since Bitcoin price nowadays remained fluctuating, and cheaper price can be acquired once you purchase btc from any trading sites. For I remember those days that btc was profitably at $20k, I was given great times earning brilliant amount of money. I was even comparing it from my job income which cannot be achieved even though working so hard 24 hours a day.
272  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ‘Bitcoin Is Not Money’ Because We Cannot Print It – Banks on: March 21, 2019, 02:42:55 AM
Central banks are trying to put bitcoin in their definition of money and it doesn't work and will never work.
Their definition of money is stuck in the 20th century. We shouldn't worry about it and move on and the definitions will have to be changed in time. When people were travelling on horses and shooting bows there were many laws that later changed or became forgotten when they didn't do those things anymore.

It's more than money even other people thought it didn't work. This has been proven for years and it sustained a strong foundation despite of fud and fake news circulating, which competition tried to pull btc down. Bitcoin is a form of digital money and not in a physical form, which you can use it though web network. It can only be appreciated through modern gadgets like phones and computers, you can use this asset using this technology gadgets.
273  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Kid should start earning bitcoin as young as kindlegarden on: March 20, 2019, 10:27:44 PM
This is against children's right, at a very tender age they will not understand a thing about Bitcoin and blockchain, let them think and act like a kid and learn stuff in their own way, there is a time for everything, you can teach them when they are in high school, at that time they will know the value of money and investing.
I agree on that point mate, children has to find time learning more for their childhood and I don't think young children could appreciate bitcoin compared to what adult does. Probably of there's an app for educational games that will earn satoshi points they'll able to learn those stuff. But earning money wise cannot totally brought up a child's imagination, and become their main interests. Secondary education should be implemented with cryptocurrency subject like bitcoin, which I think the right time for a young people to study about digital currency. With that, the possible knowledge to be driven out for the youth will be strong and I knew someday that would be brilliant for new generation; to gain more effort in spreading about what bitcoin will do for the future.
274  Economy / Speculation / Re: Let's prepare for the worst on: March 20, 2019, 11:09:11 AM
I think we should really prepared for the wost and keep faith with the market in investing.  Many people has abandoned the cryptocurrency market and that is why it is good that we the enthusiast should keep investing and promote bitcoin and cryptocurrencies market.
On a funny note, i would like to know how much you have invested to stabilize the price of bitcoin Tongue . People have not abandoned the crypto market, the riders who ride the market when there is a rally might have abandoned the market and they might come back when there is yet another bull run, other than that the transactions per day remains almost the same like before and there is no dip in that either, the market is showing signs of recovery and it is a positive sign for investors who are looking to make profit.

Well a lot of those riders probably have exited at a loss anyways during 2018 lol. And there's nothing to lose if you prepare for worst days to come. I know that we've probably bottomed out already but there are times when the market just wouldn't give is a good shot, and being prepared for anything that can happen is the best thing anyone can do.

Being prepared for those negative situations which may arise is the best ways to have these days, and looking forward to what will be the outcome is. Hoping for the best can be in opposite for that, and probably that what everybody is seeing right now. Most of the traders this time were like wolves whose hunting for their preys, so don't be alarmed those time that we seem to observe some price fluctuations getting much worst due to panic holders.
275  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin investors are coming back ! on: March 20, 2019, 06:56:19 AM
It is a bit to early to say that. We didn't really get far from the value of $3,5k if we look closely. The volume just increased and that's it. Bitcoin investors are sure waiting for a bit higher value than that before they really come back.
There is a specific price that they are waiting, and once they will see that, they will jump right away.
Sometimes because of the big price uptrend it will cause a FOMO and hopefully we will about to see that soon.

We will see what the future may bring for all of us in sooner time, and hopefully it won't take so long. Many traders awaited for those any possible price spikes to happen, and I with that it could probably trigger good signs to initiate more investors to come back after a long time hibernation. If this will create FOMO, I don't think it caused price to downfall again rather it will skyrocket due to possible panic buying.
276  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How long do you think this BEAR MARKET will LAST? on: March 20, 2019, 02:36:04 AM
Usually bear market running period as per last bear market season we may expect it to be more than 2 years so we already passed one year so within this year we can expect positive development and by year we may end up with bull market
I have the same prediction, minimum two years, more or less. Yes, one year is already behind us, so just one more year from now and things will look much better. For me it`s the same when will it come, I think this period suits to all real crypto lovers, we need more time to earn more coins. People need to be patient, to work more and talk less, it will come when it comes, use that time for something useful, like earning more before it comes.
The first year was 2018, and per observations this 2019 was still at bearish trend because bitcoin price isn't yet changing a good effect on pumping trend. We had no choice but to be patient despite of the struggles we've been through this time. Surviving during hardships is really hard, but through hardwork and dedications everything will be surpassed as long as we have courage to face certain challenges. Don't give up, and instead of expecting quicker recovery just wait and for the right time market will be in full recovery.
277  Economy / Economics / Re: Technology improves we work more. on: March 19, 2019, 10:39:27 PM
The goal of technology was for everyone to have easier lives and work less. Well todays generations have it much tougher.  They are working for much lower wages and longer hours.  Its next to impossible for millenials to purchase a house on their own.  Something here itsn't right, Capitalism?

I think you've got a wrong point here. Technology is created to inspire us to work more, yes sometimes it may help our work to make it easier but that doesn't mean that millenials will not gonna reach their dream because of that. We can not blame capitalism, if we are going to set goals in life, we and the millenials can still  afford to buy assets.
but with this technology, shouldn't it make our work lighter? of course, by utilizing its function more effectively or efficiently than before, this technology will be acceptable
For sure it is very important to work according to the time, if time is faster we will have to work faster, new technologies should be acceptable and try to get the advantage of it, if we will work to our extent level we will obtain the real benefit of the specific technology, in crypto we can take the time on right, buy at time of red and sell at low.

Very few give importance to it as an advantageous one, while majority indicate it's decentralized usage and usage on crime as a reason to stay away. With bitcoin only if experimented the truth will be understood. Technology keep things advanced, to grow through the same it is our responsibility to travel along with it.

As we grow more mature the technology kepts developing more new upgrades, and we were able to become part of that long journey as we live. Another new discovery begun to be revealed so we become more fascinated on the debugging stages, which we as subscribers acquire such basic knowledge and used it for our daily lives. Bitcoin started to become more stronger, behind the barriers of price increase and to think of incoming demand to help it gain a good price. New technologies could help this goals become achievable, and for sure bitcoin again commences a great value once second bull run will happen.
278  Economy / Economics / Re: The myth of crypto revolution on: March 19, 2019, 10:18:08 PM
I dont think there is a problem for using it as both.

Dont you see people keeping USD like a commodity in other countries? Why? Their own currency value is getting lower and that is why they prefer to still keep USD rather than their own.

It is also a currency. The new age had began for so long and we really need something new that would change the payment system specially the online world.
Credit cards and banking system should stay in land. Let bitcoin be the online currency and nothing else.

The advantages will do more changes as long as all nation adopt cryptocurrency as their main spending currency. Bitcoin will always be a good diversion towards digital money, and cashless type is the best alternative to prevent physical money robbery which could prevent crimes. Although it's prone to cyber security breaches, I don't think it's easy to be penetrated when you're equipped with strong firewall security. Talking about the myth, it's now turning to reality so far.
279  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 10 Real places where you can spend your Bitcoins today on: March 19, 2019, 09:30:17 PM
Currently there are so many places both online and physical where one can spend his or her bitcoin as so many companies,  businesses and even individuals today are accepting bitcoin as a means of payment. Bitcoin usage is on the increase so also are platforms which accepts it for payment.
The growth has gone to the extreme level with funeral services accepting bitcoin. This is limited, majority of the locations hasn't got even a small store accepting bitcoin. I don't find the acceptance to be high in my country as other users mentioned. As of now I've seen more online services accepting bitcoin and apart from the same I prefer using it within friends.

Not all countries were able to spend bitcoin as above mentioned in this thread, but some of those points like using it on buying stuff like goods. In my country I was spending my bitcoin on paying on my debts like the electricity and internet bills. It provided me a better comfort and opportunity, that's why I was able to have more opportunities compared with traditional fiat money spending. Although I still needed fiat money to transact locally, but choosing bitcoin as digital form of payment I can guarantee it's definitely an awesome thing and wise choose to have so far.
280  Economy / Speculation / Re: When Will Bitcoin Be Back To $20,000 ? on: March 19, 2019, 02:41:51 AM
It is becoming less and less clear what direction crypto will take.

We need the market to boost but the price is stuck with no real sign of it going up.
Halving will boost the price dude, be patient I am sure the news about halving will make many people interested in buying, of course many people will definitely see the previous halving influence that makes bitcoin skyrocket and many people will not waste that opportunity.

That's great it will happen, but I wonder when will we see that boosted price expected. The idea of halving is good enough to create more demands to come and purchase crypto as an asset for growing numbers of holders. Always bare in mind not to ignore those best options prior we experience another market spikes, which could become phenomenal just like the old days. Every chance is our perfect target for the future market profitable journey, which soon increase at awesome price undertaking.
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