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261  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Green at coinmarketcap, bullish trend positive outlook! on: January 12, 2018, 06:57:30 AM
For the past four days I have seeing red in the price of bitcoin anytime I tried to visit the site but this morning I have started to notice green signal. I think we are about to resume bullish trend and the next resistance area may be $17,000. However, we may equally see a drop to $12,250. I will also like bitcoin to remain stable in other for retails shop to be able to used it.

This is likely just the calm before the storm, as usual with bitcoins. To be honest, if you check the charts of bitcoins you'll see that there is a trend with bitcoins and its prices. Usually when it does pump really big like what happened last December, it does go down quite a lot and it will resume after a few weeks or even months. This is the normal trend I see. Another factor to also consider is that if there is good news like in December about the bitcoin futures, prices pumps really hard. But if there are negative news like in I think September, prices will drop down by a lot. Right now, there is no good news yet so expect it to trade at these prices right now. Probably the best news for bitcoins would be a fork that would improve the problem with transaction speed and expensive fees.
262  Economy / Marketplace / Re: "Bitcoin mining is a Big no!" on: January 12, 2018, 06:15:11 AM
Moreover, you also need to have really high performing super computers which is not that much easy to buy.

Just by looking at the difficulty increases, it should be a clear indication that mining Bitcoin just isn't something you should be doing. People think that if you buy an Antminer you're all set and will quickly ROI, which isn't the case. Sure, eventually eventually you might break even and from that point generate pure income, but the earnings will be so insignificant, that it is barely worth the effort. If mining will be done anyway, then people are far better off building an altcoin rig than focusing solely on Bitcoin. Altcoin prices are peaking at insane levels, which is great for miners, but no one knows how long these prices will be maintained, so people buying hardware right now might not benefit from current levels for too long anymore....

That may be true, but seriously a miner compared to a real estate investment or a lot of investment opportunities in the real world, the miner will still win. Imagine, a miner could pay itself after a bout a year or maybe a year and a half. As compared to a regular investment in the real world that would ROI by about five to ten years! Also, if you invest for the future running cost of your miners then that means you will be able to take advantage of any price increase of the crypto you are mining. That is something that you can do.

Have you tried investing in a real estate?  You can never compare an appreciating value to the depreciating one.  You might have an advantage in the beginning with  mining but on the long run, investing in real estate will be proven to be a better one.  One reason for this is, mining having a depreciating return.  Meaning you get less and less every mining payout unless you upgrade your hashes,  another thing is your gadget malfunctioning. If bad thing came and your mining equipment got busted right before you got your ROI, what do you think will happen to your investment?

To be honest with you I have. I have an investment of about $40,000 for almost about two years now. It earned about $5,000 after taxes per year. I get your point about appreciating value but honestly it is indeed good for the long run, however if you perform a quick evaluation of each investment you'll still find that the mining rig will out weigh the benefits of appreciating value of the property.

REAL ESTATE
Cost of condominium unit = $40,000
Estimated yearly profit = $5,000

ROI in 8 year and I can sell the unit say at about 150% after 8 years or $60,000. At 8 years that nets me $60,000 + $40,000 = $100,000. That means I profited about 150% in 8 years from my initial investment of $40,000. Which means I profited a mere 18.75% per year.

MINERS
Assuming you have a miner, usually it pays itself after about 8 to 10 months time and you invest also on the operating cost of it for a year, this means you will only need to convert your mined crypto after a year. That will result to higher profits since you speculated that the price will increase.

Assuming the miners only pays itself after 12 months or 1 year. That means anything I profit after 1 year is already pure profits.

Let's further assume that I invest $30,000 in miners and $10,000 for operating costs for one year (electricity, internet, etc.).

First year I profited $40,000 in crypto but since I don't need to spend it yet, I speculate and the value of the mined crypto increased by 100% (which is super conservative, usually crypto goes as much as 400% per year). That would mean my first year of mining is already worth $80,000. That also means I ROI already by the first year and even profited 100% in just 1 year! Say the next year, the miner is somewhat obsolete and it does not mine as much as it had before and due to the difficulty increase it could only profit about $20,000 (less expenses this time since this is the 2nd year), then I still profited a lot by the 2nd year and had already exceeded what I would have profited from my real estate investment in 8 years!

263  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Exchanges that STILL accept new registrations on: January 12, 2018, 05:56:21 AM
Guess the better thread would be "Exchanges not anymore accepting new registration" because from your list there isn't really much that doesn't accept new registration hence the general rule is that exchanges still accept new registrants.

Although, from your list I would suggest you add something like "exchanges that require KYC/ID before registration". Because, for example, Poloniex requires you to present ID at registration or you won't be able to even deposit and trade, even though they still allow registration. That is quite different from accepting or not accepting new registration.

Another point though, since exchanges are getting stricter and stricter, this has now been a new business of people on the forum. They're now selling accounts on these exchanges. This was not possible back when registrations were all open and easy to do. I guess it will be big business soon enough since there are a lot of people wanting to get into crypto.
264  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do you get your BTC or ETH quick and with low fees? on: January 11, 2018, 11:59:07 PM
Best it to just buy it from the exchange directly, like if you can deposit on kraken and directly buy from them the bitcoins or ethereum. Not sure which other trading platform offers deposits in fiat, but Kraken is the one I know that accepts fiat deposits. If you are aiming to trade then that's your best bet. Or you can also use GDAX as they accept fiat deposits and keep your crypto in their platforms for trading. Just check if it is possible with the USA, my recommendation was based on a friends of mine that are in the EU area.
265  Economy / Marketplace / Re: "Bitcoin mining is a Big no!" on: January 11, 2018, 11:51:08 PM
Moreover, you also need to have really high performing super computers which is not that much easy to buy.

Just by looking at the difficulty increases, it should be a clear indication that mining Bitcoin just isn't something you should be doing. People think that if you buy an Antminer you're all set and will quickly ROI, which isn't the case. Sure, eventually eventually you might break even and from that point generate pure income, but the earnings will be so insignificant, that it is barely worth the effort. If mining will be done anyway, then people are far better off building an altcoin rig than focusing solely on Bitcoin. Altcoin prices are peaking at insane levels, which is great for miners, but no one knows how long these prices will be maintained, so people buying hardware right now might not benefit from current levels for too long anymore....

That may be true, but seriously a miner compared to a real estate investment or a lot of investment opportunities in the real world, the miner will still win. Imagine, a miner could pay itself after a bout a year or maybe a year and a half. As compared to a regular investment in the real world that would ROI by about five to ten years! Also, if you invest for the future running cost of your miners then that means you will be able to take advantage of any price increase of the crypto you are mining. That is something that you can do.
266  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: ATM card for withdraw BTC/ other crypto on: January 11, 2018, 11:36:51 PM
It's not worth it, don't use the ATM cards that offer this. It is a lot better to just sell your crypto for BTC or use the BTC to sell them in Localbitcoins. Usually those debit cards you find online has really high withdrawal fees unlike if you just use localbitcoins which only charges you the deposit fees and probably the fees you will pay for depending on the method you choose to withdraw your money. I believe those fees will be far less than using the debit cards.

Though I might be wrong because it will really depend on the fees of your method from localbitcoins compared to the debit card's fees. You should compare and contrast it yourself before you make a decision and also highlight the pros and cons of each. So far, based from my observation about it and with my country, it is way better to use localbitcoins.
267  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: Double your BTC in 6 hours - Most Trusted Bitcoin Doubler - BTC2double.com on: January 11, 2018, 11:13:26 PM
Hi michkima,

Its not out of the blue. Why wouldn't i promote this website if they were always perfect, gave me all payouts on the expected hours? The more people who invest more time will the website work, you know that. So, i'm just helping the website to get a little more popularity, although it has a lot of reputation on Asian forums. "They accept escrow now", why is that funny? Its an amazing option and unique in this type of services!

If you have any problem, you can PM me. Smiley

Regards,
Jason

LOL. "The more people who invest more time will the website work" that is exactly true!!! I cannot deny what you have said, because this is a PONZI SCHEME. Its a fucking scam and you are stupid enough to even be defending this kind of shit.

Escrow is stupid because who will escrow first and foremost? For sure they will? Then that would just be stupid. Then if I did escrow to a reputable one, then that means the site will not get a hold of the funds, which I don't think they (or you) will allow. If you don't have the money they how do will you be able to "double my money"? Seriously, you should cut the bullshit, this is a scam 100%. There is not even a value proposition on how the site is able to double the BTC in just a few hours. The only explanation is, they are just paying using the money of the new investors, that's what because it is a PONZI!
268  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: BITCOIN value is decreasing, ANY chance of rise in other Currency? on: January 11, 2018, 09:40:06 AM
ETH would be my best bet. It potentially can replace bitcoins if need be. Or you can also move to Bitcoin Cash since it has grown significantly in the past, probably it could be the a good alternative to bitcoins in case it does fail to adopt to the situation. Right now bitcoins are going down because of the recent network congestion and high transaction fees, which is really causing people to stray away from bitcoins and move to other altcoins.
269  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: Ledger nano S doesn't work read before you buy on: January 11, 2018, 09:05:38 AM
Got mine from their official reseller for Asia and never really had problems like yours. Once I plugged it in, the software automatically detects it. Even Electrum was able to detect it. It worked using Bitcoin, Bitcoin segwit enabled, bitcoin cash, ETH and all others. Never had a problem with any cryptocurrencies, even the other apps works.

Probably you haven't sent up the Ledger Nano S yet? I believe you have to set up the device first then after that, that is the only time the software will be able to detect it. Also make sure that on the device you are on the Bitcoin app if you are using it for Bitcoins.
270  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: Double your BTC in 6 hours - Most Trusted Bitcoin Doubler - BTC2double.com on: January 11, 2018, 08:33:36 AM
Hello,

I was looking for investment bitcoin websites that were paying and found this one: https://btc2double.com

The min investment is 0.02BTC , i gave it a try and got in few min!  Smiley

I'm very happy, i'm going to do it again soon when the transaction confirms.

Just sharing this site while its still paying, they have alot of users so it will be working for some time i think.

EDIT:

To avoid some questions, i will just leave a post i made on this thread:

"I will try to explain better. When you make a deposit, you will get 200% deposit back to that address.  As i said, it will use recent people coins to pay the older deposits. Of course there is a risk of not getting paid if you invest too much because there won't be that much coins to pay that deposit, and that can cause a shutdown of the service. So, as long there are many deposits it will work without problem.

I'm not saying this service will last forever, but as long as it lasts i will use it for sure! I'm already with over 7.1 BTC profit Smiley

Its your money, you decide if you want to risk it or not."

Admin is now accepting escrow, in investments over 1 BTC!

Website still paying on time!

OFFICIAL THREAD CAN BE FOUND HERE: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2488822.0

Funny that you profited 7.1 BTC and you just want to share your investment opportunity to everyone out of the blue, right? Also, what's also funny is the part of "Admin is now accepting escrow, in investments over 1 BTC!"

Another funny thing is "I'm not saying this service will last forever", directly implying that the service will someday just die. Just plain funny people trying to promote their hype site.
271  Economy / Gambling / Re: ▰ PARADICE.TO | Dice-Community | Invest/Jackpots/Rain/Tip/Staging Faucet/Ref. on: January 11, 2018, 06:38:28 AM
quote:
"If I were primedice I would have filed a case against these guys.
I do hope people do not support a site like this as this is indirectly support scammers."

Answer:
We have never scammed.
We also have nothing to do with phishing.
Our users coins was and are secure at any given time.

--

As you can see, Primedice-owners are/was targeting us in the moment our thread drove more and more traffic...
Also pd-owners are familiar with buying bitcointalk accounts (And also payn guys) to give themselve a positive feedback and maybe also to give their competitors negative feedback:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1099499
https://archive.fo/aG6ly#selection-823.2-823.73

I dont claim that they did this "phishing accussion" on purpose, but i can say that we have nothing to do with any phishing attempt.

We evolved from day 0 and we are steady working and making huge progress, you can see our thread in here and follow it step by step.

Paradice-Team also is responsible at any time if there are problems, just be kind and we try to solve your problems.

You can ask any tech guy here that the proof stunna provided can easily be created to target someone, and as this discussion is hard to solve without any evidence on both sides, its up to your trust.

And i absolutely understand the fact that PD is a well known and old trusted casino in here, so its getting hard to compete with this accussion, because of that we are not going to dig deeper into this. There are other sites then bitcointalk to promote our casino.

This is our last response on this phishing accussion.


www.Paradice.to

Wasn't it proved that you owned the website that seemingly looked like the URL "primedice.com"? And upon opening it it was seen that it was a clone of Primedice.com with an "investment" option added, which was never done by PD. I would say that this facts were undisputed at the time the accusation was done. Problem is paradice made use of the malicious domain name which mislead people, this fact is also undisputed. Your previous explanation was that you owned said domain for purposes of SEO which no one can hardly believe.

Though since paradice will never yield to these accusations, as seen from the fact it is still running up to this time, guess you will always carry with you this negative feedback.
272  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin Gambling Investments on: January 11, 2018, 05:58:46 AM

Based from your investment statistics, I am not sure if you just lost about 30 BTC or you withdrawn some of it based from the steemit post. I do hope you can also include the information about how much you have withdrawn from the casino investment to truly reflect your current standing. Although, based from what I saw, you have been in losses in the past weeks.

I've followed your thread before back when you started with just 4 BTC (if my memories serves me right) and back then you recorded a lot of profits, but when you increased your capital by a whole lot, seems you lost a lot more and you were not able to maintain the previous profits. I guess this is really because of the ICO coins you bought from Betking and Bitdice. Based from that fact, I think it was never a good idea to buy these coins and it was a lot better to just have kept the money at casino bankrolls. Just my observation.
273  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What do you think about Casino with 0% Edge? on: January 11, 2018, 05:43:59 AM
Yes it's true. I have no idea that theres a casino offer 0% edge  at this time. The question here is ,if the casino has  0% edge, how do they earn? Offering 0% house can actually be profitable? Or they may make it for promos or attract new player to visit their website. Anyway,whatever it is I hope it is not scam.

Its not a scam, its a reasonable way to gain market share which is not often an easy task to do in any industry.   If you observe something as mainstream as Amazon then they also run very close to zero profits seemingly at times, but also they have vastly achieved the task for gaining market share in not just USA but worldwide in quite a short period of time relatively.   

Nobody could say this close to the bone strategy is a failure then, the risk is that company must keep growing in order to justify such an aggressive approach and be extremely efficient and well supported by capital when required.   As no profits are building up they rely on the revenue of past expansion to allow them to continue, all growth must be valid and well chosen business or it would be two steps backwards.

Long term I dont suppose 0% edge is that feasible as the company must ensure security and other measures to operate, its not a factor which can be ignored so there is inherent costs to operation.   Scales of economy do also justify gaining custom as fast as possible though.

Who said that a 0% house edge will not be profitable? Indeed casinos earn a lot more if there is house edge since it would almost certainly improve their chances of winning against the gamblers, but that doesn't mean that with 0% house edge there would be no chance the casino will profit. Remember that there is still a chance that the gamblers could have a long losing streak and that would result to the casino profiting in the end. Also do keep in mind that there is still betting limits, which will prevent gamblers from doing a martin gale system with big capital since those gamblers still will hit that limit for sure.
274  Economy / Gambling / Re: ▰ PARADICE.TO | Dice-Community | Invest/Jackpots/Rain/Tip/Staging Faucet/Ref. on: January 11, 2018, 05:11:08 AM

PARADICE.TO - One step Ahead!





Good news everyone!

Night & Day mode available
Invest system & 2 different games (Dice and Wheel)
The more you wager, the more free-bitcoins you can claim from our faucet!

Every bet uses a completly random provable seed!
(unlike other casinos which allow you to use a custom seed for more then 1 bet, which lowers your win-chance)


Soon more features like 3 different jackpots, which you can win by hitting just a single number each!
The best ref-system in history..and future..
Also we are planning to make a Slot-Game and Quiz game, maybe a little PvP game as well.
Hourly rains, chat games. . .

We also have running promotions, like "make forum posts in paradice to receive some satoshis, up to ViP tags" and a ton of little features for forgetting the time:

Forum
Music
Users (get to know users from all around the world with ease, friendly community, messaging systems... you can also Poke people)
Polls (you can participate or even make your own)
User Profile (add information about yourself, or set it to private)

For what are you waiting, join now and benefit from early-user status!

www.Paradice.to


I think if you want your casino is survive. You need to do something about your red trust.

I know this is pointless but you can offer an apology to the destiniation phishing attempt and maybe issue some sort of repartation payments for their loss of income.

If you handle this situation professionally, then there is a chance you might recover.

I am even surprised that they are still operating after they have been found doing something like that. They probably even deserve an actual criminal case for doing it. What they have done is likely illegal in most jurisdiction for they have made an attempt to scam people which is a fraudulent act punishable by law. If I were primedice I would have filed a case against these guys.

I do hope people do not support a site like this as this is indirectly support scammers.
275  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Should I try to win back my loss? on: January 11, 2018, 04:25:19 AM
For me, it is not that good since you are trying to win back your loss which might reverse the effect and instead of taking back your loss, you will be giving another amount to be lost. It is good if you can just set an amount to be lost and if that level is reached, better stop it because you might add another loss on the list. Better lose something you can afford right?
It is not possible at all to win back your losses in gambling. Gambling is just made to lose money, not to win. Only the house is all the time in profit, rest all suffer. Indeed, he is going to lose more in order to win back what he had lost. This is the reason why I don’t like gambling because here you have no rules and regulations but all the time, you are dependent on your luck for winning some money. Stay away from this game.

That is one of the worst thing I've read on this forum.. There's no chance at all to win back losses in gambling you say? I've done it several times and others have done it too. Obviously the house is always in profit but certain individuals will win as well otherwise there'd be no business for them to be had.. It just wouldn't go around.

I would say it is quite possible as well, however the chances of profiting is a lot slimmer when you have to put into consideration that you need to win back the losses you have incurred. Nothing is really impossible even in gambling, but due to a lot of factors the odds are always against the gamblers. Although there are people, like Hhampuz, who have won back his losses. It's really just about luck and chances, even if the odds are against you there is still a chance to win.
276  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: gambling ends on: January 10, 2018, 03:54:26 PM
can this world stop in gambling?
someone who like to gamble hard to escape from the gambling trap. almost like a drug addict. Even after they went bankrupt still struggling to gamble by borrowing money for gambling. Actually what do they expect?

They are expecting that, that is the way to scape to the reality of life, so instead of working hard to earn some cash, they are doing game that can't guarantee them a return. And that thinking can lead to addiction. Expecting to something that don't have a solid foundation that all of the money that they are wasting will be paid off, instead they think that they are in a fairy tail where they will hit a very big jackpot and it will end in happily ever after.

You can't really expect gambling to stop though, even if you have a good point there. Gambling is already part of human DNA, I think. The reason is that we want to try our luck at profiting big time with little effort. It's human nature to take a gamble, because there is chance, even if it is quite small, that they can get out of poverty or their current situation in an split second. In gambling, you can go from zero to a rich millionaire in an instant, however there is also a greater chance that you would lose everything you deposit.
277  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Fair online casino? on: January 10, 2018, 03:49:10 PM
If you talking about trust, I'll bet no one here is trusting an online casino except they had the provably fair system.

Thing is that most of them claims that they have "provably fair system". Some actually do, but i think i've heard that some just say that because users still won't read about it, or even if they will, they won't understand anything.

I trust only popular casinos, some less popular ones might be better but i'd rather gamble in safe site than shady one.
I think you are saying a true fact as people are in too much hurry that they don’t even think to read the agreement at least once because they are coming up with the idea that gambling is the way to real success and for getting that success, they don’t take hurdles in accounts. PROVABLY FAIR SYSTEM is like a hurdle to them and they just ignore it in the hunger of success and getting more money.

Most new gamblers, and even a lot of the veterans would not even know what to check in a casino if it is indeed fair. Some casinos just throw the phrase "provably fair" so lightly that they're actually misleading people. The problem is there is really no standard for what truly is a "provably fair" casino. All there is are casinos just seemingly showing they are fair and not really having the proper mechanics to a truly fair one. I guess there is really much need for a main body that would regulate what provably fair is in the gambling industry.
278  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How many Bitcoins would it take for you to Quit Gambling Forever? on: January 09, 2018, 11:47:42 PM
I would say that I would quit already once I lose like about something worth $20,000. That might not be something big for a high roller, but that's like a life savings for small people. I guess that question should change it to dollars, as the BTC equivalent will always change through time and it would change drastically when prices change as well.
279  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I always lose all my tokens and btc on gambling~ on: January 09, 2018, 11:42:46 PM
The best idea to not lose every time and all tokens is to play at provably fair casinos, because when you lose every time something is probably odd. Years ago when I was playing at brick and mortar casinos, I had days when I lost, but I had also days when I won. And the house edge of online casinos is usually lower than at brick and mortar casinos, so you should definetely have days when you win.

I would like to ask, how do you propose to "not lose every time"? Because you are implying that there is a way not to lose in every gambling session. To be honest, there is now way you can be able to win every time. There would be times that win and more likely more times that you will lose. This is not just a statement, it is true and can even be proven mathematically. The reason why gambling sites and casinos are getting bigger and bigger is because the casinos never lose, why do you think they have already stood the test of time?
280  Economy / Gambling / Re: Game Rock-paper-scissors on Bitcoins.Game on: January 09, 2018, 11:36:33 PM
Great to see there is another game about rock-paper-scissors, though is this one versus against another player? I would say that 20% cut is a lot. In short the house edge is like about that much and this will be a huge turn off for some gamblers. I would suggest you lower your cut so you reduce the disadvantages of your gambling site. Good luck though.
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