What are you talking about you troll. You're the type of person to overpay on 1080s just because its trending. FFS, you wanted to buy a 500 dollar metal case that supports an 8 GPU rig LUL, talk about not doing your research..
... tch tch I guess if you half ass everything its normal to miss minor details like how the case is actually a case including a 1600W PSU, cooling, motherboard, ram, ssd, cpu and cables, incredible value when one needs to scale up rapidly. But I guess you wouldn't know what scaling up is on minimum wage. You do realize the market can crash, decline or change direction. GPU mining might become obsolete/ inefficient phased out by new mining methods like Anteaters (the same way mining changed from cpu->gpu). Yea, I do worry about em anteaters all the time .... they keep me up all night. I want to assure that my capital investment gives me the largest ROIs possible with the least amount of risk. I'm doing a lot of research actually, that's why I made this thread to get information and opinions from elite miners that know their shit( you don't fall in this category D: ). Buying 500 dollar metal cases that could be worthless in resale value, over investing in capital that can crash and drop in price from 1k to 200, you are a smart business man. Thanks for your input, ill make sure to whipe my ass with it.
Good to know im helping u keep your ass end clean, since that's where you do most of your talking through anyways. Learn to spell while you're at it. This is the big boys club, your balls drop or you go home. Yes it was a loaded question, and no I wasn't expecting one person to have all this information since as I've stated there's contradicting information and it is scattered. This is a forum with thousands of people the whole point of it is to come together as a collective to make informed decisions. I am doing my research that's why I asked to be linked to credible info sources or articles pertaining to mining.
because learning to use google is just too damn hard .... the whole point of this forum is for functioning members to help each other when/where they get stuck, not to help on-board lazy bottom feeders. Maybe its my fault for not being as direct with my question.
Does the manufacturer brand matter; Is EVGA better than Gigabyte, or should I get MSI? Is it a good idea to compare the clock speeds of different cards as a way to gauge how strong of a hash rate the card can produce. Will a 4GB card have a significant improvement on the hash rate compared to its 2GB counterpart. Lastly, a lot of cards have suffixes like superclocked / TI / ssc is there a specific type of card I should look for and/or stay away from?
While this qualifies as a question, it highlights your absolute lack of research. This is the issue that made me post this thread in the first place. Should I go mainly off the clock speed and expect it to closely resemble its performance when comparing these cards? And yes, I am aware that the 2GB cards can no longer mine Etherium (soon, possibly already, the 3GB cards wont either according to an article I read.)
see what I mean about half assing it ... read more articles, not just one, you don't want an opinion, you want an understanding. The power supply question is not a huge concern to me. I just want to be as efficient with my rig as possible. I posted it also because I've heard different opinions on the issue; as I've said, one miner suggests to have you PSU at 60-70% output, while your curry eating ass says 80-90%. I was just looking for the input of other miners to see if it can vouch the information I have seen online. This isn't the most tech advanced stuff I know, but everyone has a starting point and I'm just trying to make sure I've got the right "form" (sprinting reference). Thanks again to anyone who actually takes their time to try to help me.
Again collate multiple opinions and see what the majority of people are recommending, then go with that. People recommend what works from them from experience generally. Oh and also, I am eating curry as I type this, how did you know  |
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Hello I'm trying to find information on the different hash rates of Nvidia GeFroce GTX cards. Does anyone have a source of information that lists and compares hash rates of different GTX series like 960 vs 970 vs 980 and 1050 vs 1060 vs 1070 etc(even 700s). All the information I have been able to find about hash rates on these cards is very sporadic, which makes it very difficult to compare.
Does the manufacturer brand matter; Is EVGA better than Gigabyte, or should I get MSI? Is it a good idea to compare the clock speeds of different cards as a way to gauge how strong of a hash rate the card can produce. Will a 4GB card have a significant improvement on the hash rate compared to its 2GB counterpart. Lastly, a lot of cards have suffixes like superclocked / TI / ssc is there a specific type of card I should look for and/or stay away from? (ex. Will a superclocked 1060 have better performance compared to the base model but an ssc card will not?)
Also how would I go about calculating how much wattage my rig would require. For example; the ZOTAC GeForce® GTX 1050 Low Profile has these power specs:
Recommended Power Supply 300W
Power Consumption 75W
Does this mean each card will only require 75 Watts to run while mining? If my system uses 275 Watts excluding GPUs, and I'm planning on installing 4 of these cards. Would I require 575 Watts output from my power supply (275 + 4 x 75 = 575 Watts) is this calculation correct? Would a 750 Watt PSU run this well, I've heard from one miner that you want your PSU to be at 60% so with a 575W load under that condition I would need a 1000W PSU. Is this true or would the 750W PSU perform just as well. Finally is it more efficient electricity wise to have one strong PSU or could I build my rig with 2-3 weaker PSUs without raising my electric bill?
This will be my first build. My goal is to set something up that will have a strong hash rate and not cost a fortune in parts. I am not overly concerned about having a great J/MH efficiency. If you guys have any suggestions about parts (I was going to order off Amazon) let me know, I'm from Canada in the GTA. I was also considering going with AMD over Nvidia but I am more familiar with Nvidia.
Sorry if the questions have already been posted/answered. There's so much different content about bit mining and some of it is contradicting itself. I'm new to this and would appreciate any useful information I could read, which pitfalls to avoid, or just general advice from an expert would be greatly reassuring. Thanks for reading my post, any advice is highly appreciated. Cheers.
So instead of searching for all this info on forums, threads, watching videos etc you want someone to compile all this information and spoon feed it to you? Nice. Spend the time and effort needed, and ask for help when you are ACTUALLY stuck somewhere, and this community will answer all your questions, but no one here is going to help someone who is just too lazy to do any research by himself. Also, with that attitude, let me tell you straight up, mining wouldn't be suitable for you. |
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You sure we can install both AMD and NVIDIA GPU at one motherboard?
How about driver? Not crash?
Example i want use 2xRX 570 + 2xGTX1060 at same motherboard, is work?
Yes, is work for sure. |
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1060 will last longer than 580, but 580 is more profitable for mining.
But can you mix them? Yes, you can, actually it's the only way to use 19 GPUs in the mining mobo.Hi is there a guide/tutorial on how to create custom timing straps? thanks
There are some tips only... you can find almost everything here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1758267.0some files are outdated there... You cant get 19 by mixing just 580s and 1060s, you need atleast 6 P106 mining cards on those motherboards. |
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Is there a program that can switch my rig off and on e every day or 2?
Well you could get a simple rig resetter. See SMOS website, they sell rig resetters. Or you could build your own, its not that complicated. Or you could have a switched PDU. Why such expensive options? Just add the following to your claymore batch file at the end: -r 1440 1440 is time in minutes, it will restart your system after 1440 minutes ( 60 x 24 ) of continuous run. |
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Ive been offered a B5 Plus in stock for $1550 is this worthwhile?
Does anybody know if the RX 460 in the B5 Plus are 4GB or 8GB?
1550 is not a bad price, but consider the warranty issues that people have been having as well. Also there are no 8gb 460's, only 4gb. |
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Hi,
Is small-scale/home-based mining at the verge of 2017 still profitable or that's like missing the boat? [KW/h ($)= ~ 0.14]
Optimism: New/prospective altcoins
Pessimism: Monopoly of couple of top altcoins
Regards,
Rizwan
14 cent power should be okay for a rig or two. Especially if you lower heating costs with the rigs Thank you, philipma1957. Can you please elaborate a bit on lowering heating costs with the rigs. Thanking you in anticipation. Use mining rigs as a room heater, save on costs there. |
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24 @ $799 $19176 MSI GeForce GTX 1080 Ti DirectX 12 GTX 1080 Ti SEA HAWK X 11GB 352-Bit GDDR5X PCI Express 3.0 x16 - Are 770 actually ( https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137113) 6 @ $297 $ 1782 LEPA G1600-MA ATX12V 1600W Gold PSU - Is 262 actually ( https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA1UH3YG329) 1 @ $229 $ 229 ASUS B250 MINING EXPERT LGA 1151 Intel B250 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 ATX Intel Motherboard - Is 140 actually ( https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813119028) 1 @ $262 $ 262 Intel Core i5-6600K 6M Skylake Quad-Core 3.5 GHz LGA 1151 91W BX80662I56600K Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 530 - Correctly Priced 1 @ $212 $ 212 G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3000 (PC4 24000) - Are 154 actually ( https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231878) 1 @ $149 $ 149 SAMSUNG 850 EVO 2.5" 500GB SATA III 3D NAND Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) - Is 140 actually ( https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147373) 4 @ $ 47 $ 188 6-Pack MintCell VER 008S Multi-Power 16x to 1x Powered Riser Adapter Card 60cm USB 3.0 Extension Cable - Correctly Priced 1 @ $ 17 $ 17 PCI-E to PCI-E Adapter 1 Turn 4 PCI-E Slot 1-4 USB 3.0 Mining Special Riser Card - Correctly Priced 2 @ $180 $ 360 Aluminum Open Frame (T Slot) Mining Frame 9 @ $ 2 $ 18 SODIAL 5Pcs N52 Disc Magnets Neodymium Rare Earth Magnet Magnetic 20x3mm with Hole 5mm 2 @ $ 38 $ 72 ABS Platic Sheets (Exterior, used in conjuction with magnets to just pop all panels on/off with no screws) 1 @ $ 99 $ 99 Windows Home OS 1 @ $ 25 $ 25 Orange Pi Controller with custom software (provides system info and control remotely through smartphone or website) 1 @ $103 $ 103 US 7" HDMI HD 1024x600 LED Screen Display Module - Is 50 actually ( https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIABNJ57K3957) - Lower if i looked at places other than newegg, but lets stick to newegg for now 6 @ $ 22 $ 66 Custom build 120V/30A Relays (Used by Controller) 1 @ $ 10 $ 10 Push-On/Push-Off Power switch (turns on Controller which takes over complete control) 1 @ $ 80 $ 80 Triple wall heavy duty shipping box 1 @ $ 52 $ 52 Custom form packing Foam to fit system/box 1 @ $ 90 $ 90 Leather Document Holder - Medium - Saddleback Leather - Black (hold all Discs, Manuals, benchmarks, etc. Attached to back panel) 1 @ $475 $ 475 UPS Freight shipping (USA only)- Approximate, depends on destination zip. Also no insurance added as I have not shipped one yet - I could ship a Bike at that price, but lets assume its true for basic calcs --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Total: $23,465 Excluding US Employee labor costs Total(Revised) $22,488 Based on a basic price check of some of the components, at full retail pricing this ofcource excludes all the entries beyond the core components, and ignores any potential discounts when you are building 500 units Labor: $ 1,040 ~$210/day Hr rate, plus, withholding taxes and insurance Cost: $24,505 Cost for us to build Dev Cost : $ 1,661 Development cost, dedicated server, administrator and 3 support techs - added this in based on your footnote Profit: $ 5,494 Profit from consumer buying 1 each (lower for more units per order) Operation: $ 2,018 Since manufacturing these will be 1/3 of our business revenue, calculate in 1/3 of the operation costs (calculated to 5 day period) Net Profit: $ 1,815 Dev cost actually needs to be split between Labor and Operation, it shouldn't be a separate line item based on how its defined Whats not calculated in here? All small hardware, ties, misc cables/adapters, etc. bought in bulk. Entire frame, panels are custom made from source materials for each system - mentioned in the BOM Each Controller is custom built for each system - mentioned in the BOM Goal is Quality, Performance and Lifespan. So there you go. System exists and is stable. Build it yourself if you want - or don't. [EDIT] Was wondering why it was coming up with $3.5k profit and the spreadsheet says ~$1800. The current in-house system does not have have the Orange Pi with display/relays that provides the remote control and system information. Developers started work on that in October and will not be done until end of January. I split the development cost, dedicated server, administrator and 3 support techs of evenly between 500 units. Net profit is $1815 USD. Ok Enjoy. Did a quick price check on some of the components, it appears this BOM isnt from your previous research because it looks hastily hashed together - picks up the higher prices from quick searches to support your "high" costs. Not too far off though, just overcharging by a 1000$ if we consider full retail prices for all components. Transparency is a good thing, but the people on this forum (most of em) arent Idiots so please dont assume as such. List out an accurate bulk pricing BOM, and add in 5,000$ (or whatever) profit straight up, I would appreciate that more - nobody works for charity, and people understand that you have to pay for good workmanship. While this looks like an interesting project, we need pictures of a unit/prototype and/or a video of it in action. A picture is more impactful than a wall of text, especially with that kinda pricetag. Unfortunately all you have shared thus far point to this being an Idea that exists on paper only. Here is why : - The BOM looks hastily put together, and mentions full retail prices (mostly higher that whats available) for unit qtys, we all know bulk prices are markedly different.
- No pictures, links, videos of anything working, not even a sketchup or an illustration to support the idea.
- You do not understand mining well enough to know why Nvidia or why not AMD, how mid range GPU's give you a much lower ROI period and thus a much higher return.
- Your Miners are set to Nicehash by default, thats the best your research and development team could narrow down upon? No miner worth his salt uses the Nicehash miner, you wouldn't either if you had ANY real world mining experience
- You try to sell "Cloud AI, Smart Cities, Self Driving cars. You could sell Computer power to schools or anyone else that is looking to push their CUDA code" as use cases. Are any of those buying hashpower yet? Please share a link where we could sell hashpower to any of those buyers, im sure people would be very interested. Because I "Could" use my "Cuda" cores to develop Skynet and end the world some day.
- And ... get ready for this, this is a BIG one You CAN NOT run 24 x GTX 1080Ti on the Asus B250 Motherboards.You can not run more than 13 actually, there is a BIOS limitation that Asus themselves haven't been able to work out yet. The only GPU that will currently get you past the 13 card Hard limit are the P106 mining cards. And even with the Mining P106 cards, there's another hard limit of a total of 21 cards. If you had "Built" even 1 prototype of the system that you are trying to gauge interest for, you would know this.
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Cast does not work with x70 cards.
Erm ... my RX 470's give me 830-850 on cast ... |
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Hi everybody ! I have seen that somes of you reach 1400H/s with a vega56  I get 1000H/s max (default firmware, no OC...) I use AMD n°23.20.782.259 drivers. Could you explain me how to have the same results ? Which Drivers do you use ? Which Firmware ? Which software to configure it ? Which parameters in Claymore ? Thanks by advance ! Step 1 : Dont use Claymore's miner for Vega (use xmr stak miner or cast miner) Step 2 : Google HDCC Activator, set it up to enable disable the Vega cards on each boot Step 3 : Enjoy 1900h/s |
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So it turns out these boards only like certain risers. Version 6 i believe. This is why my board only saw 3of6 gpu.
Swapping risers solved my mobo's identifying issues
My ASUS boards like ALL risers, the Biostar boards are choosy though. |
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Really want to sell my house, move back into my parents place. Plow £156,000 into GPU mining rigs and see what happens... Im sure the wife will be fine...
RIP DarrenJC |
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Most video cards only need 1 8 pin conector for mining, you don't need plug both, the key is underclock and undervolt the videocard so it use only 150-160 watts. With the riser power and 1 8 pin conector you have a teorical 75 watts+ 150 watts= 225 watts, that's enough for mining.
Vega needs both plugged in to run. |
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Got my Onda D8P to post. Not sure if I needed to connect all the Sata and Molex connectors for my quick smoke test, but decided to do it anyway. I ran a dedicated Perif/Sata cable to each plug, using up all 6 plugs on my EVGA 1200 P2. I'm running a G3930 CPU and a DDR4 SODIMM. It it will take DDR3 as well, that's great as I can probably pull some from one of my older laptops. Next up will be booting from a SSD with nvOC installed and throw a 1050Ti on it to see if it will mine at the default BIOS settings. Awesome It would be great if you could test that board with 8 Nvidia cards and then with 8 AMD cards and let us know, im still waiting on my sample |
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Hey guys, I've got a problem.
Till 2 days ago, I was mining with 6x RX580 on a Windows 10 system with the H110 Pro BTC+ motherboard. We decided to buy 4 more cards since that motherboard supports up to 13 cards. Then the problems started. Windows could recognize up to 8 RX580, but with the 9th it started crashing (using the AMD Beta drivers for Blockchain). So then, I decided to try ethOS. Apparently ethOS recognizes the 10 cards, but using 10 would cause the system to hang on bootup. If I use just 9 cards it boots up, but then only 7 out of the 9 cards are working properly when mining, the other 2 just give 0 MH/s...
What am I doing wrong? Did anyone set up a system like this?
Using 4GB of RAM and an Intel Celeron G3900. The ethos is installed on a USB3.0 Stick of 32GB.
Use Windows Fall Creators Update + AMD Drivers 17.11.1 = upto 13 cards supported. |
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Just saying.. It's not "that" hard.. Cheers! Been a while Heliox what have you been upto? |
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PSU is EVGA 1000GQ. running 24/7.
Ignore all the naysayers, a 1000W PSU is BUILT to be run AT 1000W Output and the warranty covers any failures - most PSUs that high end come with 5+ years of warranty. What you measure as 930-960 is at the wall or INPUT, so the output is most likely 930x0.9 or~840W - a perfectly safe number. There are ofcource some other considerations like temperature (most PSU ratings are at 45-50C) and the input voltage - on 110v most PSU's get like 80% of peak rated power output. SO if youre running on 110v or in a very hot room with no cooling, better get a 1200-1300W PSU, otherwise a 1000W is just fine. |
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Hi all,
I have plans investing max. 100K in mining hardware. Because of the relatively high Kwh price in our country (Netherlands), I'm looking for a way to mine with green power to cut the costs.
To the point, I would like to ask you for some advice about which crypto would be the most profitable and stable. Maybe it's even a good idea to mine multiple ones..
My thoughts go to Bitcoin, Ethereum, Monero and Waves. What do you guys think? I would also like to know what kind of hardware I should use, because the pascal and volta cards are coming, maybe i'm better off waiting for them instead of buying (for example) a bunch of 1080's.
I'm fairly new in the crypto world, I do research a lot but I would like to know what other people have to say.
Thanks.
Two pieces of advice to start with : Never buy the most expensive cards (like 1080's or the new volta pascals etc) buy the ones that offer good performance/$ like the GTX 1060 or the RX570, that gets you to ROI faster. Never mine multiple coins, mine ONLY whatever is the most profitable AT THAT TIME and exchange it for other coins if you think they will go up more in the future. |
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I have a small rig with 3 Asus geforce 1080ti, Win 10 64 bit pro, Maximux7 mainboard.
I start mining and after a while one of my GPU's stops. As far as i know
i'm doing everything : 16 gb virtual memory, gen 2 ...
But i could't figure the problem. I have reinstalled the windows, reinstalled the driver but nothing..
Any advice please..or any link that explains solutions will be great..thank you
What overclocks are you using? What powerlimits? Share all details and we may be able to help you. |
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