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261  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Fifth alt coin thread last four got too big. on: August 23, 2017, 04:41:51 AM
Nice to see XMR rising towards $100! If that keeps up, may extend the useful life of my 24 470's lol.

Was actually considering changing over my 2 rigs that can't dual mine to XMR but it's been so freaking long since I mined it, I couldn't remember the sweet spot for strap-1500 modded 470s... as far as core clock/memory clock settings go.

Something like 1200/1900 rings a bell, but can't remember for sure.  Anyone have any suggestions for this scenario?

XMR doesnt need much memory and I remember the ETH rigs used up to 30% less watts compared to ETH mining. Reduced power or heat are 2 good reasons alone for going to XMR -- post life after ETH and ZEC.


For XFX 470s, at least, copy the 1625 strap upwards (not the 1500).  Core: 1256  Mem: 1600/1650 - you don't have to go any higher to get 850/860 H/s and that's very stable.
262  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Fifth alt coin thread last four got too big. on: August 22, 2017, 02:45:19 AM

Can the 1080ti go on beast mode with Monero and deliver better profits than ZEC?

1080ti isn't a particularly good Monero mining card. It's EFFICIENT, but the hashrate doesn't justify the price (a BIOS-modded RX 470 can almost match the hashrate at similar power usage).

Sweet spot there seems to be a modded good-overclocking RX 470/570 or some of the lower-end Pascal NVidia cards (or the GTX 750ti for low-cost rigs still does well at 250 hash/s or so on 50 watts or so power draw in my fairly limited testing that probably was NOT optimised).


Hell, no fancy bios mod required.  An XFX RX 470 with the 1625 strap copied upwards will get you 860+ hashes on Monero and draw not much power.
263  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Denarius [DNR] - NEW "Tribus" PoW Algo >> PoW/PoS Hybrid >> Satoshi Core on: August 21, 2017, 02:31:46 AM
just wanted to let people know that hashbag.cc is back to normal after all the drama. we are still running 0% fees for DNR

it would be nice if you could come across to us from yiimp.ccminer.org as ccminer has got over 50% of the hashrate again.. you will not be losing out on coins and it will get more and more constant as the hash rate increases. generally we are finding 10 blocks an hour at the moment (it was 20+ before ccminer got a huge bump again) so the payments are pretty reliable already - small pools get erratic on payments when they don't find a block within the payment time, however we have not had that happen since the first days of the pool, even through all the dramas.

all you need to do to change from ccminer is to change the stratum address - it's the same pool software so everything works the same

stratum url:
auto-select: stratum+tcp://pool.hashbag.cc:8688
germany: stratum+tcp://de.hashbag.cc:8688
netherlands: stratum+tcp://nl.hashbag.cc:8688

Just switched.  Working well so far.  Thank you.
264  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN [NETKO][NETKO] PoW/PoS | NO PREMINE | BLAKE2S | 8.MARCH 2017 on: August 19, 2017, 04:32:46 AM

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You really have zero clue on the ammount of work i have right now. I dont wanna be an ahole but talking shizz here on forum is easy.

Please tell me what have you done in the last 8 years for cryptocurrency or the cryptocurrency community.

Cmon.  Wanna be me for 7 days? 8th day you are admited to a nuthouse i guarantee!

Btw Žiga is actually working on website as i type and i am organizing one of the biggest Crypto Picnic parties as i type so please go somewhere else where this kind of trolling actually means something.

For the rest of the community. CryptoLove form Slovenia and thank you for sticking around. We are here, we aint going nowhere and we will never abandon our projects.
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Crypto picnic party?  I never laugh so hard in my life.  This must mean you take all the money you got by wasting people's time and you buy champagne and good things to eat and you laugh and laugh while you party and picnic.

8 days till you go to nuthouse?

No, you went there after day 3.

Strange thing:  I do not recall Satoshi having cyrpto party picnic.  Odd.  Very odd.
265  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Anyone can test these 6 Pcie slots Ryzen mobos? on: August 19, 2017, 04:05:22 AM
Being excited about 5 cards working, I tried connecting the 6th and going to safe mode to install drivers.

All 6 cards are shown in safe mode with no cards needing drivers.  Yet booting windows normally fails. 

Not even sure what to try now.

What build version of Windows 10?  1607?  1703?

Go to PC Settings:System:About  to find this information.

6 works with build 1511.
266  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Anyone can test these 6 Pcie slots Ryzen mobos? on: August 19, 2017, 04:02:03 AM


Romi,
That’s awesome information, thank you sir! I also have the MSI X370 Gaming Pro. I tried with BIOS E7A33AMS.430 and the new E7A33AMS.440. The new BIOS has the option for cryptominig however, it doesn’t seem to affect anything except it no longer displays POST and you can’t seem to get back into the BIOS without clearing CMOS.

Anyway, can you please explain how you are installing the drivers exactly. I have followed your instructions and I can get Windows to recognize the 6th finally after running DDU. I then tried to install via the nvidia package (v385.28) in normal (not safe) mode.  It seemed to install but when I rebooted windows puked and entered a reboot loop and tried to repair itself. Any ideas?

BTW, the slot that sends windows into the repair boot loop is the very bottom PCIe 4x slot.

Thanks!
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Sure, here is how I do it:  I launch the Nvidia installer and let it go through the part where it checks my system, then I hit the "agree" to all the licensing restrictions.  THEN I QUIT OUT OF THE INSTALLER.

At this point, there is an "Nvidia" folder created on my C: drive.  You may want to rename it to something like "XNvidia."

I then go into windows Device Manager (after running DDU to wipe out all prior drivers) and manually update the driver for one of the generic Microsoft Display Adapters.  After I update one card, after a few minutes, Windows tends to update the rest and I am good to go.

Pictures on what I mean by "manually' update the driver in Device Manager:

http://imgur.com/a/KHFoD

1. Browse to the "Nvidia" folder on your C:/drive.

2. Go to the version/international/driver/display.driver/  

3. then click on the file "nvaci" and hit "Okay"

But make sure you are using Windows 10 build 1511.  If you are on build 1703, this probably won't work.  I have no idea why, I'm just telling you what worked for me.

Good luck.
267  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: New Rosewill Server Mining Case UPDATE 2 and we have more pics. on: August 18, 2017, 04:58:43 PM
Bought one of these yesterday  Grin just waiting for it to arrive. Will post pictures when it does!

Too bad I don't have good enough PSU for a bunch of 1080ti. Thinking of going with server PSU for this case in addition to one regular one.

Someone was asking about dimensions for the Hewlett Packard 1500 watt common slot power supplies + X-adapter breakout boards.  Conclusion: two of these will just barely fit back to back in this case but that means the cards in front of psu's will need to be GTX 1070's or smaller due to length restrictions.

Dimenstions with the X-adapter board attached:  exactly 12 inches in length; width is 4 and 1/4 inches because the breakout board is just slightly wider than the HP 1500 psu itself; height is about 1 and 3/4 inches but that is deceptive because you have to allow for the insertion of your power cables, which can only bend so much.

Here are some photos which I hope make it clearer:

http://imgur.com/a/SEd2U

268  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [FS] Bracket to mount 7 GPUs at front of Rosewill L4000, L4000B or L4500 chassis on: August 18, 2017, 04:48:28 PM
This is a "drop-in" bracket i.e. requires zero modifications to the case, to mount 7x GPUs and 3x 120mm fans at the front of deep (25-inch) Rosewill server cases.

Note: As of July 2017, the lead time is only 1-3 business days.

$70, plus shipping from Washington state (fits in a medium size flat rate box).  PayPal only.
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The Rosewill RSV-L4000C 4U GPU-Miner Server Case is readily available - and no case mods/hacks/adapter brackets required to accomplish higher-spec configuration (i.e. 8-GPU) than this 7-GPU 'drop in' bracket mod/hack attempts to accomplish.

Someone was asking about dimensions for the Hewlett Packard 1500 watt common slot power supplies + X-adapter breakout boards.  Conclusion: two of these will just barely fit back to back in this case but that means the cards in front of psu's will need to be GTX 1070's or smaller due to length restrictions.

Dimensions with the X-adapter board attached:  exactly 12 inches in length; width is 4 and 1/4 inches because the breakout board is just slightly wider than the HP 1500 psu itself; height is about 1 and 3/4 inches but that is deceptive because you have to allow for the insertion of your power cables, which can only bend so much.

Here are some photos which I hope make it clearer:

http://imgur.com/a/SEd2U

269  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Bitcoin Tax heaven. on: August 17, 2017, 10:40:58 PM
Someone owns cryptocurencies since long time ago, been exchanging them one to another via shapeshift and other anonymous exanges, never sold them for fiat yet. Value of portfolio dramatically increased.  At one day he decides to move some part of capital into other assets, like real estate, stocks, or create a business. He is free to move anywhere around the world and/or change  tax residency.

What would be the best strategy for him?

PS. He is libertarian minded and wishes to prevent terrorism financing (invest in state violence via taxation scheme).

Come to Germany or Austria, we pay an awful lot of taxes but not for Bitcoin holdings that have been kept for longer than a year Wink

Bad news is you'd have to relocate and obtain citizenship.

The good news is the beer is good.


The beer is really good.  Gutmann!  Ich bin ein Gutmann!  er, jelly donut, I mean.

Seriously though, all this guessing about tax regimes is silly.  Try contacting Simon of Sovereign Man if you are serious and have real assets:

SovereignMan.com

270  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: New Rosewill Server Mining Case UPDATE 2 and we have more pics. on: August 17, 2017, 09:15:16 PM
I use that same case with 6 x EVGA 1080Ti and a single EVGA 1200W PSU.


EDIT:  How many posts do I need before my pics won't just show up as links?

Thanks, this is interesting.  You've gone with the right low profile 1080 Ti card.  I was just about to ask about TDP because even at 70%, with those six cards you'd be hitting the wall with that 1,200 EVGA psu.

Your links are showing up great.  Thanks.
271  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Any word on amd vega hash rates? on: August 17, 2017, 08:38:37 PM
Does anyone think it's possible that AMD wrote into the latest driver a throttling factor for mining just for the launch in order to give gamers some 'breathing room' on launch.  This might explain the divergent rumours earlier on (older drivers) with current findings today.  Especially with the blower style cooler, be curious to see what AIB partners do for cooling and if hash get's better with 'update'

 Huh Huh Huh

Bingo.

Really? I read this and don't know what to think...

Here is a shocker, maybe, just maybe the rumors were full of shit?

But nooooo, it is much easier to believe there is some grand conspiracy to artificially hinder mining performance at launch just to appease gamer's, many of whom probably are also miners when they are not gaming. Yep, that's it, AMD is going to risk giving market-share to their competitor Nvidia just so they can appease some bitchy gamer who already whines about the price when they could instead be selling them to miners who will gladly pay $100 over MSRP. Sorry, but your pie in the sky dreams of a killer mining card aren't coming true with this release.

Time will tell, won't it?  We'll see what the max rate from this card turns out to be.
272  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Any word on amd vega hash rates? on: August 17, 2017, 03:40:15 AM
Does anyone think it's possible that AMD wrote into the latest driver a throttling factor for mining just for the launch in order to give gamers some 'breathing room' on launch.  This might explain the divergent rumours earlier on (older drivers) with current findings today.  Especially with the blower style cooler, be curious to see what AIB partners do for cooling and if hash get's better with 'update'

 Huh Huh Huh

Bingo.
273  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN [NETKO][NETKO] PoW/PoS | NO PREMINE | BLAKE2S | 8.MARCH 2017 on: August 16, 2017, 03:04:51 AM
If we just stake and sale then price will go down. We need something from dev

If no news from devs anytime soon price will drop badly. I already lost 0.6 BTC on Netko,  we need product otherwise with this POS ratio coin have it is going to be dead in few weeks.

uhm, it's been abandoned... stop wasting your time.
274  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Anyone can test these 6 Pcie slots Ryzen mobos? on: August 16, 2017, 02:55:42 AM
Any word on the x370?

I bought MSI x370 and successfully detected four GPUs but can't get the 5th to light up.

Curious if there is something I can do in the BIOS to get it to work or if this board might only do four and that's that.

Thanks.

MSI X370 will do 6 Nvidia GPUs, but it is difficult depending on your version of Windows 10 (build version).  My OEM Win10 disks were build 1507 (I think).  Lots of errors, restarts, was driving me nuts.  And that is after I installed the AMD newest chipset drivers.  What's more frustrating, is that Windows Update just crashes and fails over and over with this build version - just doesn't work with Ryzen.

Download Microsoft's "Media Creation Tool," download to ISO and make a USB boot stick (search for "Rufus bootable .ISO"), do not use the Microsoft product, just download the .iso image and use Rufus to make your Windows boot USB device.  This will take a long while to download and run through updates.  Then reinstall Windows10 using the USB stick/key only this time it will be build 1511.  Start the build with one Nvidia card in the main slot.  When you get to build 1511 (and before you install lots of software), make sure the one card is recognized and that you can mine.  You need to then launch DDU and remove all drivers and shut down, not restart.  When shut down, plug in all your other cards.  Reboot.  If Windows doesn't install the drivers, do so manually under Device Driver.

If you errors on startup, hit F11 to get to the Boot order menu and click on wherever you just installed the new version of Windows.

Beware the Microsoft Update Assistant (Blue icon) that comes with build 1511.  Takes forever and it *may* update you to the 16xx build, and if you run it again, it *may* update you to 170x build.  But you'll probably tear your hair out first.

Go to "PC Settings" > System > About: to see what build you have.  If you have build 1507 or lower, that might explain all your problems.  Update to at least 1511.

Disable Hi-Def audio in Bios.  Disable Serial/Parallel I/O.

I think, more than anything else people mention, when it comes to Ryzen and 5/6 GPUs, it is a Windows issue.


ROmi,

Which x370 motherboard do you have exactly and what BIOS version did you get it to finally work with?

Thanks!


Sorry, to be clear: it IS running 6 GPUs and works very well.  Not 4, not 5, but 6. 
275  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Anyone can test these 6 Pcie slots Ryzen mobos? on: August 16, 2017, 02:53:34 AM
Any word on the x370?

I bought MSI x370 and successfully detected four GPUs but can't get the 5th to light up.

Curious if there is something I can do in the BIOS to get it to work or if this board might only do four and that's that.

Thanks.

MSI X370 will do 6 Nvidia GPUs, but it is difficult depending on your version of Windows 10 (build version).  My OEM Win10 disks were build 1507 (I think).  Lots of errors, restarts, was driving me nuts.  And that is after I installed the AMD newest chipset drivers.  What's more frustrating, is that Windows Update just crashes and fails over and over with this build version - just doesn't work with Ryzen.

Download Microsoft's "Media Creation Tool," download to ISO and make a USB boot stick (search for "Rufus bootable .ISO"), do not use the Microsoft product, just download the .iso image and use Rufus to make your Windows boot USB device.  This will take a long while to download and run through updates.  Then reinstall Windows10 using the USB stick/key only this time it will be build 1511.  Start the build with one Nvidia card in the main slot.  When you get to build 1511 (and before you install lots of software), make sure the one card is recognized and that you can mine.  You need to then launch DDU and remove all drivers and shut down, not restart.  When shut down, plug in all your other cards.  Reboot.  If Windows doesn't install the drivers, do so manually under Device Driver.

If you errors on startup, hit F11 to get to the Boot order menu and click on wherever you just installed the new version of Windows.

Beware the Microsoft Update Assistant (Blue icon) that comes with build 1511.  Takes forever and it *may* update you to the 16xx build, and if you run it again, it *may* update you to 170x build.  But you'll probably tear your hair out first.

Go to "PC Settings" > System > About: to see what build you have.  If you have build 1507 or lower, that might explain all your problems.  Update to at least 1511.

Disable Hi-Def audio in Bios.  Disable Serial/Parallel I/O.

I think, more than anything else people mention, when it comes to Ryzen and 5/6 GPUs, it is a Windows issue.


ROmi,

Which x370 motherboard do you have exactly and what BIOS version did you get it to finally work with?

Thanks!


Hi,

I have the MSI X370 GAMING PRO AM4 AMD X370 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard.

Bios version:  E7A33AMS.430 (file name: 7A33v43)

Windows 10 *** build 1511 ***  Build version matters.  1511 is rock steady, so make sure to block Windows updates.  I am not using the M.2 > PCIe adapter but that is an interesting idea.

I actually use the M.2 slot for an Intel SSD to boot Windows, but I would recommend just going with a cheap small SSD driver and trying the M.2 > PCIe trick discussed above.
276  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Data Center Mining Garage and Man Mining Cave ( PART 2 !!!!!!!!) on: August 15, 2017, 02:38:41 AM
@ All - Favor to ask to keep the thread easier to follow and less repetitive.  Let's use @ person for the response when possible rather than quote the entire post for the ones with pictures to keep it less bulky / more scrolling.  It will be more important as this thread gets past 40-50 pages where I need to do more streamlining.  


**************Design Lab brewing *************************

First I want to thank all the people who are supporting me on this project
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@YSYLUNG - Does the HP 1500W have bigger fans and is maybe quieter?  I need a server PSU solution for the server case and the IBM 2KW wont' fit sideways nor is there a good fan solution in that space to keep either the HP1200W or the IBM 2KW PSU cool.



Thank you everyone for following and for your valuable feedback and support.


The HP 1,200 when plugged into 110v gets insanely hot, thus the crazy high noise level.  The HP 1,500 doesn't run on 110v as it requires 220v.  A passive heatsink on the HP 1,500 will help keep the fan from revving up too high, if you are only driving it about 1/2 - 2/3 rated output.
277  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Data Center Mining Garage and Man Mining Cave ( PART 2 !!!!!!!!) on: August 15, 2017, 02:15:19 AM
Another solution other than what I stated previously "to reverse the fan, so it pushes air, instead of pulling air. Helped with the noise a lot for me."

is to double up your hp server psu so they aren't running near 100% loud. Since they are so cheap, you can get another one if noise is an issue.

For example, if you have a rig using 900 watts on the HP PSU, then the fan is going to whine like hell. Now if you split that load between 2 HP PSU, so each one is only using about 450w, then it greatly reduces the fan workload, so no more screaming demons.

You can also add a heatsink + thermal paste, like this one from eBay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Large-Big-Aluminum-Heatsink-Heat-sink-radiator-for-Led-High-Power-Amplifier-amp/122445133345?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

$6.50 but it will take a few weeks to arrive from China.
278  Other / Off-topic / Re: Which server PSUs would you like to mount in your 4U Rosewill case? on: August 14, 2017, 02:38:21 AM
Can anyone share the dimensions of the HP 1200/1500W PSU's and the breakout boards please.

I don't have any on hand, and I'm trying to work out if you can fit 2 of them where the ATX PSU goes in these 4U cases Smiley
They could be either side by side or stacked on top of each other.


I can get the exact dimensions tomorrow.  You'll have to space them apart if you stack them to give clearance for the cables on the bottom HP PSU.  Maybe you could reuse one of the server fan/hd cages.
279  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [FS] Drop-in bracket to mount 7 GPUs at the front of a Rosewill server chassis on: August 13, 2017, 05:19:10 PM
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835213006
https://www.amazon.com/Delta-FFB1212EH-F00-120mm-Case-cooler/dp/B004YEFEUE

Delta FFB1212EH-F00 is what I use in 4 of mine, work great.
Speed: 4000 RPM, Noise Level: 56.4 dBA (max. 60.4 dBA), Air Flow: 150.33 CFM, 12.43 mmH2O, 0.489 inH2O

Note: Some of these fans come bare wire style and you have to crimp your own ends on. I found a really good price of them elsewhere only to learn after I ordered 12 of them that they were bare wire.



Where did you find the cheap bare wire versions?  That is what I am looking for.

Thanks.
280  Other / Off-topic / Re: Which server PSUs would you like to mount in your 4U Rosewill case? on: August 13, 2017, 02:17:35 PM
I'm thinking about offering some adapters to allow you to mount a server PSU in a Rosewill 4U case.  

Which PSU models would you like to see supported first?



I think the best bet is the HP 1,500.  The Delta is too tall when on its side to fit the case, and on its side it is too wide to sit next to a full motherboard.  But I can see getting the HP and a regular EVGA power supply to fit.
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