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2601  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: YoBit is a thief. on: May 20, 2019, 05:19:11 PM
I think for people who has an account in this forum he will knows what reputation of yobit. There are thousand of threads about yobit and seems like most of the threads just give negitive side against on it. But for those people who didn't have an account on this forum and he knows yobit just a glance then he will interest with their lure so as make an account on it and finally he got scammed.
2602  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Pengiriman uang dengan bitcoin. Lebih murah ataukah lebih mahal?[Update Q1-2019] on: May 20, 2019, 04:29:32 PM
maka dari itu bitcoin memiliki high risk skema dan di sarankan memahami terlebih dahulu , bitcoin adalah sarana lain pada dunia digital untuk menyimpan , mengalih fungsikan currency yang selalu bertambah jumlahnya , dan perjanjian ini diluar dalam perjanjian exchange , siapa yang membangun exchange ini , lalu apa peran dan fungsi exchange itu di pertanyakan . di lain sisi beberapa comunity memang membuat pair bitcoin yang adil ( dengan menghitung peredaran bitcoin dan block , lalu kelangkaan di pasar = barang yang tersedia ) dan beberapa sisi memiliki pair bitcoin dengan mengkalkulasi harga bitcoin dengan legal currency .
Sebenarnya apa yang agan sampaikan? Coba lihat dulu pertanyaannya apa, kalau memang pemahaman agan belum sampe coba belajar dulu jadi orang awam yang baik.

sorry out of topic

2603  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 51btc won in a day on: May 18, 2019, 07:53:32 AM
So it is real that people win this big on gambling Wink I think i have to start learning tactics to becoming a proffessional player, am tired of been an occasional
player that only plays for fun. The real business is here Grin Grin
You have to stand with your fashion, don't depend someone's else though. I believe gambling can be use as source income if you dare to headed a lot of risks, a lot of fall and also you have to dare to spend a lot of money from it. Because as long as you play gambling then you will know the gap that you can take an opportunity for to get profit. Different with someone who just play gambling as like me for an entertainment, I won't do anything when I play just look at the table and see what that result on my bet.
2604  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Ethereum will Boom ! on: May 18, 2019, 07:40:19 AM
I remember when its fork has lunched by ETH but its price didn't move anything even the price carried away by bitcoin price movement and at that time the price bitcoin just falling down until reach $3200. I don't think this speculation will give an effect to the price of ETH but previously its price has increased drastically until 20%, yeah we hope the increased price before will support this information.
2605  Economy / Speculation / Re: after only a few days the bitcoin has gone up, but now it's starting to fall aga on: May 18, 2019, 06:44:49 AM
If you are newbie to investing bitcoin and then I'll say welcome to a lucky place of an investment. I say it just because we never know bitcoin will come to up and we never know also bitcoin price will come to down. Especially when its price has been up and suddenly its price falling down again and that all thing has always happened in bitcoin price.

But, I got knowledge from some users on this forum, when bitcoin price up you must be a trader but when its price goes down you must be a hodler if late to sell my bitcoin when its price has been down. I must be a trader because with I look at the candle pattern I will know the manipulation candle and the candle that changing by a trader. With the result that, I can eschew the manipulation when I see the candle so as I shunt from a losing.
2606  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bull or bull trap on: May 17, 2019, 07:27:46 AM
I'm really confused, I want to know if it's time to cash in or to cash out, suffered lots of losses last year
What are you looking for if you spend money for investing in cryptocurrency?

If you find for looking instant rich then this not place for you maybe you should fine a lottery place that can double your money with a thousand fold.

However, if you find for long term profit and you have known with potential side of cryptocurrency then the preconception about bull trap or anything that headed to negative line you should leaved it. Because the price cryptocurrency will always like that, I came to know about cryptocurrency since 2017 ago and until now the movement character of cryptocurrency was same.
2607  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I LOST OVER 10 BTC IN GAMBLING IN 2018 on: May 17, 2019, 07:20:49 AM
I never expect to win in gambling, and I never win in gambling, I like to gamble because its fun and give me excitement, spending in gambling for me is like spending money to play game in arcade center, nobody should expect becoming rich or making profit in gambling, with the wrong mindset and lack of self control, gambling could be a dangerous addiction
Thats true, in gambling we dont know if we win or lose, because its based on our luck only. I think no one can win a big usually always lose. Gambling is for fun dont expect that you will earn profit. Its not bad to gamble if you have a discipline, but make sure that you do not lose that great amount.
You can use your strategy before you start to bet, it will different if there is someone who play gambling strategy or someone who play gambling just rely on luck. I had felt it when I first came to gambling field, I spent money and made it deposit to my account and played just for guessed the table and lastly with a huge loss, Indeed I got win sometime and that was make me spurred to bet with high amount.

You will know what has happened next to my story, but when I came to play gambling and I crammed with some strategies that I got from other people experience or I search with myself how this gambling work and finally I win some times and I can avoid my money from a huge loss. This is important to know since there are many people who assuming that gambling is just rely on luck but not entirely like that.
2608  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Time to buy? on: May 17, 2019, 07:01:45 AM
In my opinion, right now is a good time for us to buy bitcoin and altcoin. Currently the market is still in the recovery phase, the price of bitcoin and altcoin is very low. If we want big profits in the future, we should buy and hold crypto right now. I will buy bitcoin and some altcoin like eth, litecoin, monero and stella. I guess that by the end of the year bitcoin will be higher than $ 10,000

I though if there is someone who bought bitcoin in yesterday they will find a huge loss because now the price bitcoin and almost altcoin is experiencing losing in price. Even the decreasing price that happened is very big, bitcoin down almost 7% and some altcoins has been decreasing price almost 15%. So if we find when the best time to buy cryptocurrency then the answer is there is not if you find for short term profit but if you find for long term profit then you are free to buy the coin but just remember you should know the potential of the coin.
2609  Economy / Speculation / Re: Explain the cause of Bitcoin 'not coming down' on: May 17, 2019, 06:35:38 AM
Sometimes the price will meet a correction and now it has been happening. If the price of bitcoin always high which mean never met a correction then what a function of trader? I think a trader will get a profit just because there is a correction or if we see the candle we will find candle up and candle down. So, your predict is not relevant, don't trust anything about cryptocurrencies prices because you are able to predict correctly.  Moreover, we know about whales act which can make the price down drastically without any information or they don't use fundamental factor to sell and buy.
2610  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: SUDDEN CRASH on: May 17, 2019, 06:28:48 AM
Seems like there is a manipulation since I haven't some information that can make its price come to down. This is important for us, market cryptocurrency is not like the other market. Its price can up almost 50% in several hours but its price also can down 50% in several hours, there is no safe way unless you are not a greedy person which always canny when deal with market cryptocurrency. However, regardless of that seems like the price will up again and I just wanna say this is the best time to buy and sell again when its price touch $8200.
2611  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: You Can't Be Jobless And Be Participating In Bounties on: May 16, 2019, 08:27:30 AM
When you are doing and participating in bounties you have  not considered as jobless because you have already an income. Bounty is a good activity because we get here an good income. From the start that I do crypto as a part time job I already do bounty campaign. Like now that I  provide every weekly expenses coming from my bounty's salary.
How bounty which pay with token? Is you consider it as a job too? I guess not. Maybe the OP's mean is bounty campaign which pay with token, if signature campaign which pay their participant with btc maybe it's okay because I was felt it. Actually I live in developing country then my salary from signature campaign has been enough for me. But for bounty hunter (which pay with token) I guess it's hard to be assessed because the income is very small especially at this time. I'm not hyptorical with bounty hunters at 2017 ago who has got lots of wealth from it but for now I doubt there is bounty hunter who feel it. Most of them just leaved it and search a real job in real life.
2612  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How many hours a day are you spending on online gambling? on: May 16, 2019, 08:18:50 AM
I'm not day gambler actually so I only spend around 2 hours per week to play gambling and also it depend on my money. I spend around $20 to play dice gambling per week and actually there is no specific time for me to be spend, just rely on my $20 and if the money has finished then I'll leave it but if I got won and my money has doubled then I'll deposit my first capital and the rest I'll bet it with the large amount.
2613  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Has this year be favourable to you? on: May 16, 2019, 08:12:01 AM
I don't actually count what I've earned and lost thru gambling since I only view gambling as a means to relieve stress and have fun. I gamble to socialize and have fun with my friends, and getting profit from it is just like an incentive. I think this way, we can avoid gambling addiction. Gambling was intended to be a source of entertainment, so don't view it as a means to earn money or else you'll get hooked from it.
That's true, there is no way yo make gambling as an income source until I was thinking with a thousand of time when there is some gambler who made gambling as source income. Because for me there is no strategy who will make him always get a bet and also there is no someone who will get a lucky everyday. So, based of that I play gambling just for an entertainment although maybe I was included as gambler addict because I do gambling once per week and I never leave it. 
2614  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Big Merchants Now Accepting Bitcoin on: May 16, 2019, 07:51:09 AM
There is no good information for me instead I see an information that bitcoin be accepted by some merchants more the merchant has many popularity. Because this thing will give an effect to those people who didn't know before bitcoin and he will get interesting to know bitcoin is and for those people who still hesitant to buy bitcoin because they heard lots of negative information again it and finally they will buy bitcoin for at least to be use as payment system. Also, I agree with Kakmakr it will be good if the system of bitcoin cannot changed. Let bitcoin be used as the system has, third party just for money fiat and we need government to deal with. 
2615  Economy / Speculation / Re: bitcoin has reached 8000$, then what? on: May 16, 2019, 07:34:14 AM
It depends on the persons. If you are trader and you are holding Bitcoin for a long time then taking profits right now is the best for you. If you are holding Bitcoins and not for the long run then taking profit is the best thing you can do.

Me? I'm just holding my coins and I'm still waiting for a correction Smiley before I will buy some coins. I believe that a correction will happen soon and I'm waiting for it.
How much price when correction come do you want?

When the price bitcoin increased to $8300 then at that time its price met decreased price to $7400, I just curious did you buy bitcoin at that price? Strong buy is happening so far, and I guess the price will not down drastically later.
2616  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Trading vs HODLing on: May 15, 2019, 07:09:57 AM
I use both actually, I'll use trading if the price just stuck in a several price and mean in sideaway market. But I'll holding if the price continue to high bitcoin I'll sell first if the price will down. Actually, trading and holding are same which can give you profit as well as you know the both strategy. I only weird when someone who choose holding just because he doesn't know the movement price cryptocurrency, which mean if the price continue to down then he just will see it and doesn't do anything.
2617  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: IEO: Where should I buy? on: May 15, 2019, 07:02:56 AM
That should be the first thing you should take care. All of them will KYC you since they are centralized exchange and also that is part of the IEO thing.
Better pick the best one where they have an agreement to not use your profile for demonic scams.  Grin
Seems like the investors altcoin will do everything as well as they will get a profit. They will put KYC on every projects and even they will ignore first scam thing that often happened in cryptocurrency.
2618  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: SEC Now Seeks Public Opinion On ETF! What Would This Mean? on: May 15, 2019, 06:52:27 AM
I believe something that following the development of SEC information is very useless IMO. This informstion has came a year ago and till now we never see a solution about it. Indeed, maybe if SEC approved Bitcoin ETF then there will many people who having an interesting to spend money in bitcoin because there is a regulation which can make them comfortable. Until this information will make tge price bitcoin up and I guess this is the first purpose for most users. But just wierd something that can make bitcoin up is not this information only, there are lots of article which can use a hope by us to make its price high. So, let's take simple this information because it will give a bad impact to bull run which has been coming now.
2619  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Invest now? or wait for down turn? on: May 15, 2019, 06:33:52 AM
I think it's better to invest now. Now Bitcoin price has increased and it is expected that the price of Bitcoin will go up later this year. And here the question arises, there is a risk to earn money. Success in life can not be achieved if you do not risk it. So it seems to me to be invested right now, there will be risks, so if we do not invest, we can not earn money.
Indeed, although I have a confident that to buy bitcoin there is no best time to buy, everytime is a good time to buy. But, these thing just for someone who choose bitcoin for long term investment he has known the potential of bitcoin in the future. Unless, for those people who use bitcoin as short term investment which mean they need the money in a few months a head so they decided to invest in. For this type person then now is not the best time to buy, because bitcoin is in the peak. You have to learn the movement price before you decide to buy, last nigh bitcoin fall to $7400 and I think for short term invesment you should buy bitcoin at that price.
2620  Economy / Economics / Re: Do you think Institutions secretly HODL Bitcoin? on: May 15, 2019, 06:23:21 AM
Yeah, I honestly think companies are hodling bitcoins. It might also be that they are the ones behind some FUDding, taking advantage of accumulating bitcoins at dumped price. It's impossible that they don't anticipate where our global financial and economic landscape is heading to. They wouldn't be in their position if they are not clever, so I suppose they also somehow maneuver the crypto market behind the seen and hoard cryptos.
Yes it seems that is what happens because people in institutions are those smart people who make it possible to take advantage of all forms that will benefit them, this is a strategy for those who will eventually become a main target for their finances to gain a lot of profit from each increase and the decline that occurred in this industry.
Indeed, but seems like to invest in bitcoin I doubt they will do it. Government has some experts and before they do something then they will ask first to expert. As you may know some experts especially an economic expert they still doubt to bitcoin as investment place because its volatility. Moreover, for those countries who still ban bitcoin and most likely they won't have an investment in bitcoin. I guess the average investors bitcoin are they investor who knows about technology and also people who don't like to goverment rule.
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