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2601  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: July 15, 2016, 06:23:22 AM
most of us should treat it as for fun helping the community of bitcoin to grow more as we all aware that bitcoin casino also helped the coin to prosper so limiting our loses and winnings might be possible making every bet for just simple game not to go deep and begin being addicted.
I think we all started with fun then later on when are hooked already we shift our interest more on money as it is the greatest reward we can achieve in gambling, but unfortunately we all lose in the long run so we go back in playing with fun again after we realize.
2602  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: July 15, 2016, 06:18:30 AM
If I was rich I would still gamble for fun. I love the thrill or the feeling of excitement while gambling. Gambling is not for becoming rich and most of the gambling is played by wealthy people. But even If I was rich I would gamble with a limit.

If you were rich or we were rich, I think this would not be coming to our minds that much, most of those rich wants to work out their money and become  richer... That's right, never think of gambling as a way to make a fortune... But for me, if I were rich, I don't think I'll have time to gamble...For sure I have lot of things to do, much more than what I am doing this times...
That is human nature, even though you are rich already you still want to become richer as if you don't have satisfaction in terms of money and with that kind of attitude that is not good when in gambling because he could be addicted until he loses all his money.
2603  Economy / Economics / Re: When do you buy Bitcoin ? on: July 14, 2016, 08:48:54 AM
when bitcoin price fail more than 5% i will buy it for selling in short time.
i think the bitcoin price is very hard to predict it

When bitcoin price fail more than 5% i will buy it. But I will not sell it when the price is high, I will just use it.
5% is not a big fall back ,that is just normal with the current volatility of bitcoins, you need to do day trading if you want to profit with that kind of percentage, but if you are planning to hold longer you need to see big fall back before consider buying.
2604  Economy / Economics / Re: What is your best investment strategy? on: July 14, 2016, 08:42:41 AM
That just prove that hard work only will not make you rich, doing that kind of job will just destroy your health if you want to achieve the optimum. It's better to be smart and hard working.

Yes. It is always best to work hard, because at the end you will receive bigger rewards than sitting down hours a day trying to make money in faucets or Paid to Click sites.

I consider working for Bitcoins in order to achieve good payouts. You can be a freelancer for Bitcoin and earn good money if you are have pretty good programming skills, etc. Then, it would be wise to invest your Bitcoins into Gold or Silver bullion as well as cloud mining services like Hashnest or Genesis-Mining. Just my opinion.  Cheesy
It is better to work smart while also working hard. Be smart with your decisions on how you invest your money. As you said, hard work nowadays is not enough to make us rich. We must be smart enough to make our money work for us by investing in different types of investments.
you have to be smart while making investments, your investment should never leave you with empty hands. if not do some online tasks which provide good payouts.
I've been quite long in the internet but I don't have any idea for any task that provide good payouts, it might as well be good if you list those services that you said gives good payouts.

i can say you need to do some research by yourself there mate because some other method for people is successfull at their self and for you may not because it is matter on patience and hardworks for you to see some good programs that can give you more benifit, and if someone suggest you to go to hyips /cloudmining well shutdown the thoughs that you can earn to this and find better alternatives like trading,lending and also casino investing where that would be fair one to put your money with.
If you don't have an idea in your mind you could just try to save your bitcoin because it is already a form of investment as the value will grow overtime, until you have a concrete plan in your investment then that is the time you pull out your savings.
2605  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling problem on: July 14, 2016, 08:34:45 AM
for me gambling is not a problem actually are the most common when you have no support your family of some expenses i use gambling to double my bitcoin in easy as 123 and it helps me because i can support my self for my daily needs but sometimes im not that too greedy if i think i win 1 time that you think you can win more thats not actualy for its always 30% of winning and 70% of losing it just depends on how you play and you follow your gut

That's not easy, and not healthy too... relying on gambling to support life is not a good idea... At first, yes, you will enjoy it and could possibly win a little while you are not yet abusing yourself and gambling, but days would come that you would realize that you are not gaining anything from it in totality of time that you spend to it.. You should stop now while you are not yet experiencing the downside of it..

totally agreed with this, relying on gambling to support life is not a good idea, what if you lose your bitcoin and you can't win just one time? you cannot support your life if you lose? right? so for me, don't depend on gambling it is really up to you of how you save your money. in your monthly income save some of them also for you to stop gamble. save 30% - 50% of your income and not use it in gamble. the more you save the more you earn Smiley

Yeah, that's right, instead of allocating some part of your salary to gambling, you can just save it, who knows, you might need it in emergencies in the future.Besides, gambling won't guarantee that you'll have a good future.
We have to be patient and not be greedy because continuous savings will give us a good amount of money in the future, put all your money in bitcoin as savings and investment because overtime you will your money grow.
Well, if you care so much about saving your money then you should not go into gambling in order for you to succeed in your saving plan. Gambling is just fun if it will not take to much of your money intended for savings and if we just play it occasionally.
2606  Economy / Speculation / Re: How will halving affect the value? on: July 14, 2016, 08:21:19 AM
Well I think halving will just get the price to rise because of the demand. Many believes that halving is an event where the btc's price rise dramatically to moon but I think it is not halving that get's it to rise now. IMO the one getting the price to rise is because of the halving fanatics out there, the brexit, and many more happening today. There's a lot of factors that affects it now so it is not really halving that affect btc's value. Its just that the block reward halves during halving.
Yeah, Halving is a great event, we should use it and get profit, but for my view is that halving is giving help to increasing the price of bitcoin, if we see in the start of the year, bitcoin price was very low, i think that bitcoin was $325, but passing the time bitcoin price is growing up and that's all because of halving.  
It doubled this year and considering that we are just in the month of July, we can still see more growth in the coming months before this year will end, we should wait for that and buy more bitcoins now.

i think the double you mention is not happening since the halving only stretch the price half for the previous, but still the rise could still possible continue slowly if the people support on buying of coins, but what ive seen on current price today seems it well remain to stabilized untill the end of this month.
Although bitcoin prices have become more stable over time, they are still volatile. As an accordance of halving bitcoin price has increased nearly 50% since January, now it is simmering just above $650 as the market is waiting for the Bitcoin network starter gun hoping that it will happen within a month time.


And will be more volatile as it goes.

Today's current price is a good start after block halving. We all know that it sucks to stay for below $500 for years.This is a great price to consider in my own view since Im started in bitcoin back when the price is around $250-$270. So seeing at around $650 is a big achievement and will now hope for another pumping scene that will bring the price up.
You are right, if the price will remain stable we should be thankful enough as this year we witness a good price. However, the halving is done and we know that price will rise so take the opportunity to buy since the price has not increase that much.
2607  Economy / Economics / Re: How to save money. on: July 14, 2016, 08:17:18 AM
True you provide me a way to save my money so I will follow your advice and save money for my future expenses....
I'm sure the bank is good enough to keep the money that you have, but it will reduce your money on each month, because the tax on banks. if you want to save money you have with potential which could make it grow, then save the money you have in the form of bitcoin is a good thing, because if the price of bitcoin, then the amount of money you have will grow, but you also must be prepared to accept risk because bitcoin prices could also decline
Your money will not be reduce because the tax they will charge is base only on the interest income of your deposits but the real problem here is you deposit will reduce its value overtime due to inflation and that does not happen in bitcoin.

Inflation in fiat goes for a long process. And besides no point of comparing fiat inflation to bitcoin inflation. People use bitcoin investment so it's obvious that price volatility in bitcoin is more active than fiat.

People save money on banks not because of the sole purpose of expecting an interest. If you are a long time bank investors there are lots of benefits you can use since you are eligible in some of their good offers that can really give you a stable life.
Like what? I don't see banks can give us a good return with our investment, if you are referring with their time deposits where a certain deposit will earn a higher interest compared to a normal rates that still would not be enough, I would still choose bitcoins in that matter.
2608  Economy / Economics / Re: How too get rich on: July 14, 2016, 08:12:08 AM
I realised that I'm too lazy to get rich and I know most of the people feel the same. There are multiple opportunities to get money, especially in crypto-currency world but we don't read much, we don't expand our knowledge and connections. Some people hustle more and get money, we only watch them in our couch. We have to change ourselves to a better us.

Exactly we need to expand our horizons and start thinking out of the tank and I think there are many people who got rich by scamming and cheating people, but we don't want to be one of them.

LOL! Those people who became rich with that way that illegal acts will just lose their money easily. Because they are not going to give importance to it because they just got it easily. Unlike if you are going to work hard for it you are going to give value for your money because you worked hard for it. And for scammers and cheaters they are just going to do it again if ever they run out of funds.

You can be rich doing scams all your life but I do not advise you  do that. There are legal consequences that you can face if you get caught. All the riches you acquired will all be for nothing if you end up in jail. There are a lot of ways to make money and be rich without going to illegal or scamming activities. You just need dedication, perseverance and hard work to get you goals.
You cannot do scams all the time so it's useless, what makes you rich is when you can accumulate money from your business or investment, if you are continuously earning and knows how to save as well you will achieve your goal in due time.
Also, if you get your money from scams you will not prosper, it means we need to be rich in a legitimate way so that we have nothing to hide and we can justify our riches, it is a better feeling that you are getting help because of your hard work.
2609  Economy / Economics / Re: The future of the paper money on: July 14, 2016, 08:07:50 AM
Traditional money in the near future will lose its function universal means of payment and will be replaced by electronic money. The main difficulty rejection of coins and banknotes lies not in the level of technology and in human psychology.
In e-money has a number of advantages and disadvantages. Banks and other electronic payments, bills and small change than financial institutions are much cheaper and easier to operate. The development of e-commerce further accelerates the process of eliminating the traditional money.
In the future it could happen, I know digital currency or e-money will rule the world as it gives us the convenience to transact online, and it would be easy to trace our transaction but paper money will not be out in the circulation.

But even then, you're talking about e-money in a form controlled by the government. Our economy and banking system is largely electronic already, but the control of the supply is still down top-down, from the Federal Reserve and the banking institutions it oversees.
That is the reason for bitcoin cannot be a future for paper money,at least that is my theory.
It cannot be,because bitcoin isnt controlled in anyway,by anyone.
So goverment would not let to erase the paper money,to get some crypto-currency,that they cannot even control in any way.
Yes it will be tough.  But btc will surely minimize the use of paper money. Coz it has many benefits over paper money. The govt won't let it happen and that's why it won't full replace paper money


The future of paper money is always the same, maybe the designs are going to change but the use of it is going to be there. And even the bitcoin is going to the trend. It is not going to change the use of paper money. Because paper money is being controlled by the government unlike bitcoin government is not going to control it.
Paper money is going to keep existing for a while because I think that we are just not ready yet for money to be only digital.
In the future they are going to make the change but they do not have to rush things.
The adoption period is long because a person needs to be educated enough before they can adopt with bitcoins and we know that bitcoins is not that simple which paper money is, as of the current rate paper money will dominate in the circulation and we are just few using bitcoins.
2610  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: July 14, 2016, 07:06:32 AM
just for fun, and never deposit more money, but now i stop it, gamble is like marijuana you will be addiction and very hard to stop it, stop now before you late.
marijuana cures disease but gambling will give you a disease, that is the big difference because gambling addiction is more riskier especially when you have a lot of money to lose, in the end you will realize that you have lose everything in gambling that would change your life forever from comfortable to miserable.
2611  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: July 14, 2016, 07:02:25 AM
I too believe that everybody looses in the long run.  If someone is involved in gambling frequently there is 90% chance that these people have lost more than they have won. IF you wanna try your luck you should only gamble sometimes.

I'm not sure all people lose in the long run, it's depend on luck too
if that everybody looses in the long run, I think that no one interested to play in gambling again.

You are wrong, many people experienced it already including me because whenever you win big you wont stop right and you dont even want to stay the same like that or dont want to grow your your money again. People always be greedy so unless you stop playing or recover your loss you will lose in a long run
we always feel pesimistic if talking to gamble in long run say it we will always lost etc.
it is a negative energy actually push your luck out, i have read a book explaining about ESQ read for more information about what ESQ here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiritual_quotient
you can try to implement thinking positive to get positive energy and win the game in the end , it is like no sense but just try it.
I would really not trust that statement because in gambling although you have a positive feeling that we can win we may still lose in the end, and sometimes that makes us wants to gamble more and failed to realize our chances.
2612  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling loses and wins on: July 14, 2016, 06:57:31 AM
once i lost 200 $, but guess what, i won that amount that day, so i guess it wans't that bad XD

Wow, you could have bought some things for your self with that, that could have been a good savings if you don't just go greedy..  Smiley But anyway, it is one pointer to remember, if you win double, just stop trying and trying to multiply your wins..Winning a little is good enough than trying to win more and get busted in the end.
No, you still lose your time and emotions invested in gambling, I know the feeling because we have the same experience although it varies with our bets, I was once up in gambling but due to the interest of winning more I failed in the end.
2613  Economy / Economics / Re: When do you buy Bitcoin ? on: July 14, 2016, 06:44:32 AM
I think it is good time to buy some bitcoin now. The price has dropped from $790 and it will rise after halving.

the time to run bitcoin is running out so quickly, and anybody who wants to catch the rocket to the moon is going to have only a couple of days to do it, because halving is done and these days would be the last couple of days ahead that price remains low before the huge rise.
Let's pray for that to happen mate, we are all optimistic here because of our interest to gain with our investment. Anything could happen but I see the future has a bright side.

That is right. But there is no need to pray. The past history proves that if we hold the bitcoin long, the price will rise.
you are not right sir.
It happened like that before,but it does not mean it will be the same thing now.
You cannot expect that it will rise,just because last time it did,lol
Anything can happen in the future but we should live base on our speculation and if we believe in bitcoins we always think that it will grow in the future to get the benefits we wanted, by saying it we need to be patient as patience is virtue.
2614  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling problem on: July 14, 2016, 06:23:50 AM
I see there is so many people trying hard to stop gambling their money because they've losing so much
If you not ready to lose your money, then don't even try to gamble!

It is a nice suggestion but who will put that suggestion in the minds of addicts? , none of the addict ever want to hear to those who will suggest them to stay away from gambling, and they realize it worst at the time when they lose all of their money and remain with nothing in their hands.

Nobody knows what really moves addicts, but my prime guess is that they feel the need to gamble, just like nicotine for smokers. Winning or losing is not the main factor for them. they just can't go to bed without have been able to gamble.

It's sad to be honest because it's out of their control, that's why an intervention or professional help is needed.
yeaaa it is good comparison , an addiction to gamble such as someone who addicted to nicotine for smoker and meth for drug addict, they always want and need it , without nicotine and meth an addict could feel like die so do gambling.
but i told by experienced forum member here that get a help from professional is just wasting time , not sure now the opinion and suggestion to get help from professional will work..
But I still believe that gambling is a more serious because you will not just physically affected you are also mentality and emotionally affected, you will lose your health together with your money with possible big problems you might experience because of gambling.
2615  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Should I invest in bitcoin casinos? on: July 14, 2016, 06:18:38 AM
don't try it and i think better never trying invest at gambling site, it's like ponzi scheme, also the casino can manipulate total win and lost

I agree with you, although the casino has a house edge, which I believe homeowners should always prevail. but they could manipulate the investment fund, if they lose a lot.

That is true, and that is the risk one should take if they want to make money from these casino sites investments. So it is better to find an old and trusted sites to invest instead of putting our money on any new sites. Also, diversify your investments into few good sites to reduce your losses from this kind of issues.
invest in bitcoin casino needed a large bankroll, it is not worth if you only put $100 investment.
many casino offering low minimum investment below $100 , i dont think it will profitable.
however risking your money to invest in casino is better than have to gamble it directly.
That is just normal because investing in casinos offers only small interest of your investment so you are force to invest a decent amount in order to make money out from your investment, if you don't have a good amount then just don't bother to be an investor, better play and hope you win so you can shift to investing.
2616  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Off-Season on: July 14, 2016, 06:16:42 AM
Rip Hamilton wants to go back to NBA, Stephen Jackson wants to go back, Richard Jefferson cancelled his retirement, Ray Allen tries to go back, Garnett is still playing, Nowitzki extended 2 more years. I guess money is so sweet. Smiley

Please exclude Dirk there. If he loves money he can go another team and still he can play like the old days.

Hamilton, S. Jackson and Ray Allen must put an end in their career. If ever they can still play, I doubt teams will offered high offers to them.
Among the players who are not active anymore, I would prefer to see Ray Allen back and I want him to play with the cavaliers, they need someone who can shoot with a good percentage in 3 point line and we know allen can deliver that, just remember when the won against the spurs when they were down in the series to win the championship.
2617  Economy / Speculation / Re: How will halving affect the value? on: July 14, 2016, 05:11:39 AM
Well I think halving will just get the price to rise because of the demand. Many believes that halving is an event where the btc's price rise dramatically to moon but I think it is not halving that get's it to rise now. IMO the one getting the price to rise is because of the halving fanatics out there, the brexit, and many more happening today. There's a lot of factors that affects it now so it is not really halving that affect btc's value. Its just that the block reward halves during halving.
Yeah, Halving is a great event, we should use it and get profit, but for my view is that halving is giving help to increasing the price of bitcoin, if we see in the start of the year, bitcoin price was very low, i think that bitcoin was $325, but passing the time bitcoin price is growing up and that's all because of halving. 
It doubled this year and considering that we are just in the month of July, we can still see more growth in the coming months before this year will end, we should wait for that and buy more bitcoins now.
2618  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Should I invest in bitcoin casinos? on: July 14, 2016, 04:59:26 AM
I agree with those who say it is quite a risk. But if you're going to invest than choose at least an old strong casino, because all these new things appearing a lot are very unreliable
My opinion it that it is not actually risky at all,if you can find good,trust-worthy bitcoin casino.
I use crypto-games,and it is really fine for me,i get decent money everyday,so i like it Smiley
That is pretty good to hear, it is good to have a daily income by investing in a casino but I think we need to put up a decent amount to be able to enjoy our profit otherwise we will be tempted to gamble our money.
2619  Economy / Economics / Re: Is bitcoin halving is real? on: July 14, 2016, 04:56:34 AM
The Bitcoin halving is real an it is going to happen anytime soon now, I expect it to happen with in at least 3 weeks.
I want to see what the price is going to be like and if anything has changed.
Just don't count because it will just happen and will surprise us, we should believe the good news will come and we will all benefits with our investment, it is better to hold a longer period of time you really feel the benefits of halving.
2620  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: LUCK!!! :) How does it feels? on: July 14, 2016, 04:53:37 AM
I haven't tried much gambling online but have won bets several times with my friend. It feels very good to win by luck. I would like to try my luck on gambling. If I start to win it would be very exciting !!!!!
You should try online because you will surely enjoy betting on different kind of games available, as long as you have the discipline to control yourself and not be greedy with money you will always enjoy playing with variety of games in different casinos.
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