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2621  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Leaving eurozone - Greece & Bitcoin on: July 05, 2015, 06:29:43 PM
Already at $274, Litecoin also getting a push, are we going to see $1000/bitcoin again?

No doubt these are interesting times for bitcoin. Smiley
2622  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Christian bakers fined $135,000 for refusing to make wedding cake for lesbians on: July 03, 2015, 11:58:35 PM
Well, religious beliefs or whatever beliefs don't give a special right to people to do whatever they want, specially not following the law, that would be quite chaotic...

In the USA fines are way too high, but surprisingly it didn't went to millions, maybe if it was a bigger store the couple would have been granted a couple million.
2623  Other / Politics & Society / Re: One in five Americans: “Religious institutions Should Be Forced to Perform SSM" on: July 03, 2015, 11:27:36 PM
The more people churches exclude the better, gay, black, divorced, single moms, whatever, I say let them exclude as many people as they want, eventually churches will be empty, sadly not fast enough...
2624  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Private schools - the free market in education on: July 02, 2015, 08:54:41 PM
Education, like Health care is one of those things where a "free market" makes no sense, or at least it shouldn't.

Every science based field has no place for a market, you have the data to backup your claims or you don't!

Well, you can still have a free market for education, Arts Education...
2625  Other / Politics & Society / Re: New Calls To Strip Churches of Tax Exempt Status After Same-Sex Marriage Ruling on: July 02, 2015, 08:49:01 PM




Careful with that baby, there's a Catholic priest in the scene...
2626  Other / Politics & Society / Re: New Calls To Strip Churches of Tax Exempt Status After Same-Sex Marriage Ruling on: July 01, 2015, 06:56:19 PM


Churches spent a lot less in charity than what is claimed by them.

Can you prove this?

If common sense isn't enough you can find lots of material online.

Comment on a study: http://holysoup.com/2013/08/06/the-shocking-truth-of-church-budgets/

You could argue about comparing a church’s expenses to a public charity’s expenses. But the enormous disparity is striking, especially to the public. It’s made worse by looking at how churches allocate funds to direct ministries. According to the ECCU study, churches use 3 percent of their budget for children’s and youth programs, and 2 percent for adult programs. Local and national benevolence receives 1 percent of the typical church budget.


"In the United States, 50 percent of social services are provided by the Catholic church,"

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2013/mar/19/frank-keating/does-catholic-church-provide-half-social-services-/


Mormons are all for profit: http://investigations.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/13/13262285-mormon-church-earns-7-billion-a-year-from-tithing-analysis-indicates
2627  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Coinbase dont confirm my transaction on: June 30, 2015, 08:49:32 PM
There is currently. 11k unconfirmed transactions.  Bit of a backlog going.

Ahh, so that explains why I haven't been paid my mining profits yet today.  The mining site shows that the payment went out but it's not registered in my wallet yet.  Is this sort of thing normal?  I've seen delays a few times but this seems bigger than usual.

And isn't the price of btc up today too?  I'd think this is the sort of issue that would drive the price down more.

A stress test was or is being performed today:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1098263.0
2628  Other / Politics & Society / Re: LGBT on: June 30, 2015, 08:47:09 PM
It's none of your business, people can live their lives as they want and the pursuit of happiness is different for all of us.

If it does not harm anyone else, who cares?
2629  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Taxes and advice regarding Bitcoin needed? on: June 30, 2015, 08:44:15 PM
Bear in mind that bitcoin price fluctuates a lot, unless you sell it right after you receive it you may have loss or gains, and I'm pretty sure that will complicate the situation. Smiley

Check: https://bitcoinwisdom.com/
2630  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: "Bitcoin Will Bite the Dust" report on: June 30, 2015, 08:34:10 PM
Didn't read the all thing, does the author address the fact that it would hurt financially everyone in the bitcoin ecosystem including the 'mega centralized mining pool' or mines?

It goes against the economic interest of the bitcoin industry players, specially the big ones, to turn it into another centralized system.
2631  Other / Politics & Society / Re: New Calls To Strip Churches of Tax Exempt Status After Same-Sex Marriage Ruling on: June 30, 2015, 08:28:58 PM
You guys never watched Marjoe?

Religion is just a business like any other, well, if leeching the money out of suckers and gullible people can be considered a business...

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068924/
2632  Other / Politics & Society / Re: New Calls To Strip Churches of Tax Exempt Status After Same-Sex Marriage Ruling on: June 29, 2015, 07:00:27 PM
Churches are a pro-profit business like any other, if they want tax deductions they can donate the money like any other business.

Churches spent a lot less in charity than what is claimed by them.
2633  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2015-06-29] .theguardian.com: Bitcoin fans eye potential in Greek crisis on: June 29, 2015, 06:49:39 PM
Last time an European country had capital controls in place, bitcoin price hit all time high values, lets see if history repeats. Smiley
2634  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can anyone explain this address? on: June 29, 2015, 12:16:56 PM
Next stress test on June 29-30 13:00 GMT 2015, try not to do any important transactions in that period of time, they might get stuck for a while.

On June 22nd, we initiated a relatively limited stress test on the Bitcoin blockchain to determine whether or not we alone could have a large impact on the ecosystem as a whole. While our initial tests merely created full blocks for a multiple hour period, transaction confirmation times remained within 6 blocks for most transactions. This test was not as successful as planned.

See here why the first stress test was not as successful as planned:
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The result was roughly 12 hours of full blocks combined with increased confirmation times for many Bitcoin transactions. By selecting random transactions that were not initiated by our team, we were able to determine that many standard fee transactions were taking ~80 blocks before receiving a single confirmation.

Bitcoin is at a breaking point, yet the core developers are too wound up in petty arguments to create the required modifications for long term sustainability. If nothing is done, Bitcoin will never be anything more than a costly science project. By stress testing the system, we hope to make a clear case for the increased block size by demonstrating the simplicity of a large scale spam attack on the network.

The plan - We setup 32 Bitcoin servers that will send approximately 1 transactions per second each (up from 10 servers sending 2 transactions per second each) - Each of these transactions will be approximately 3kb in size and will each spend to 10-20 addresses - The outputs will then be combined to create large 15-30kb transactions automatically pointing back to the original Bitcoin servers.

Example: https://blockchain.info/tx/888c5ccbe3261dac4ac0ba5a64747777871b7b983e2ca1dd17e9fc8afb962519

  •    Certain servers will be configured to include marginally larger than standard fees, thus guaranteeing delays from standard SPV wallets.

The target will be to generate 1mb worth of transaction data every 5 minutes. At a cost of 0.0001 per kb (as per standard fees) this stress test will cost approximately 0.1 BTC every five minutes. Another way to look at the cost is 0.1 BTC per full block that we generate. We have allocated 20 BTC for this test, and therefore will be able to single handedly fill 100 blocks, or 32 hours worth of blocks. However, we will stop pushing transactions after 24 hours at 13:00 GMT Tuesday June 30.

Predictions

  •    Our above estimates are based on 1 block being mined every 10 minutes. This is standard, however deviations are likely to create temporary blips in our testing, in particular when there is an hour gap between confirmations.
  •    The above calculations are based on each block being exactly 1mb and no other transactions appearing in the blocks. This is obviously unrealistic due to the fact that the average block size without our intervention is approximately 600kb. Furthermore, at least 30% of miners continue to cap blocks at 731kb. Others cap at 976kb.


Conclusions

For the sake of avoiding un-necessary calculations, lets assume that each block is 926kb in size, the average normal Bitcoin transaction volume is 600kb per block, and CoinWallet.eu will be pushing 2mb of transaction data into the network every 10 minutes. Under these conditions, the amount of transaction data being pushed to the network every 10 minutes (or every average block) will be ~2600kb. This will result in a 1674 kb backlog every 10 minutes.

By 13:00 GMT Monday June 29, the mempool of standard fee transactions will be 10mb By 24:00 GMT Monday June 29nd, the mempool of standard fee transactions will be 130mb By 13:00 GMT Tuesday June 30, the mempool of standard fee transactions will be 241mb

At this point the backlog of transactions will be approximately 241 blocks, or 1.67 days. When the average new transactions are factored into the equation, the backlog could drag on for 2-3 days. At this point, questions are raised such as whether or not this will cause a "crash landing." It is impossible to know with certainty, however we are anxiously looking forward to Monday.

2635  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: CoinURL on: June 28, 2015, 08:40:44 PM
I can login into my account without any problem.

I also have been receiving the failed login attempts messages, I assume some kind of attack is being performed.
2636  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can anyone explain this address? on: June 28, 2015, 08:06:45 PM
And here are the results:

On monday, CoinWallet.eu conducted a stress test of the Bitcoin blockchain. Not only was our plan to see the outcome, but also to see how easy it would be for a malicious entity or government to create havoc for the Bitcoin community. As you will see from the analysis below, delayed transactions are not the only issue that Bitcoin users experienced.

Surprisingly, executing tens of thousands of transactions that correctly propagate to the network simultaneously is not as easy as we had expected. One of the methods that was used to increase the kb size of our transactions was to send transactions consisting of numerous small outputs (usually 0.0001) to make a single transaction of 0.01. A simple transaction is usually 225-500 bytes, while many of our transactions were 18 kb (A number which limits the blockchain to 5 transactions per minute). In our preliminary testing this was effective, however in practice it caused our servers to crash. Throughout the day and evening, our strategy and methodology changed multiple times.

Initially the plan was to spend 20 BTC on transaction fees to flood the network with as many transactions as possible. Due to technical complications the test was concluded early, with less than 2 BTC spent on fees. The events of yesterday were accomplished with less than €500.

Timeline

    11:57 GMT - Transaction servers initiated. Thousands of 700 kb transactions completed within the first 20 minutes. Transactions were used to break coins into small 0.0001 outputs.
    12:30 GMT - Servers begin sending larger 18kb transactions.
    14:10 GMT - Mempool size increases dramatically. Blockchain.info breaks.
    14:20 GMT - Our servers begin to crash. It becomes apparent that BitcoinD is not well suited to crafting transactions of this size.
    14:30 GMT - Our test transactions are halted while alternate solutions are created. The mempool is at 12 mb.
    17:00 GMT - Alternate transaction sending methods are started. Servers are rebooted. Mempool has fallen to 4mb.
    21:00 GMT - The stress test is stronger than ever. Mempool reaches 15 mb and more than 14000 transactions are backlogged. The situation is made worse by F2Pool selfishly mining two 0kb blocks in a row.
    23:59 GMT - 12 hours after starting, the test is concluded. Less than 2 BTC (€434) is spent on the test in total.

The following graph depicts the entire test from start to finish: https://anduck.net/bitcoin/mempool.png

Observations

Delayed confirmation times and large mempool buildups were not the only observation that came from our testing. Many more services were impacted than we had initially envisioned.

Blockchain.info

Over the past few months, Blockchain.info has become increasingly unreliable, however we are confident that yesterday's stress test had an impact on their website being offline or broken for 1/3 of the day. During periods where we sent excessive transactions, Blockchain.info consistently froze. It appeared as though their nodes were overwhelmed and simply crashed. Each time this occurred, the site would re-emerge 10-30 minutes later only to fail again shortly thereafter. Users of the blockchain wallet were unable to send transactions, login or even view balances during the downtimes. In response to our heavy Bitcoin usage, blockchain.info began to exclude certain transactions from their block explorer. This issue is explored further by the creators of Multibit, who can confirm that some transactions sent from their software were ignored by Blockchain, but were picked up by Blockr.

Bitcoin ATMs

Many ATMs operate as full nodes, however some ATMs rely on third party wallet services to send and receive transactions. The most prominent Bitcoin ATM of this type is Lamassu, which uses the blockchain.info API to push outgoing transactions from a blockchain.info wallet. Due to the blockchain.info issues, all Lamassu ATMs that use blockchain.info's wallet service were unavailable for the day.

MultiBit

Both versions of MultiBit suffered delayed transactions due to the test. Gary and Jim from MultiBit have created a full analysis from Multibit's perspective which can be read at https://multibit.org/blog/2015/06/23/bitcoin-network-stress-test.html

The outcome was that transactions with the standard fee in Multibit HD took as many as 80 blocks to confirm (Approximately 13 hours). Standard 10000 satoshi fee transactions took an average of 9 blocks to get confirmed. Multibit has stated that they will be making modifications to the software to better cope with this type of event in the future.

Tradeblock

With Blockchain.info broken, we frequently referred to Tradeblock to track the backlog. Unfortunately Tradeblock was less than perfectly reliable and often failed to update when a new block had been mined. Regardless, at one point 15,000 unconfirmed transactions were outstanding.

Bitpay

Users reported issues with Bitpay not recognizing transactions during the test.

Price

Increase of $2. Contrary to some predictions, we did not short Bitcoin.

Green Address

While this app was not hindered directly by our test, we did send a series of 0.001 payments to a green address wallet. When attempting to craft a transaction from the wallet, an error occurs stating that it is too large. It appears that the coins that were sent to this wallet may be lost.

Conclusions

From a technical perspective, the test was not a success. Our goal of creating a 200mb backlog was not achieved due to miscalculations and challenges with pushing the number of transactions that we had desired. We believe that future tests may easily achieve this goal by learning from our mistakes. There are also numerous vulnerable services that could be exploited as part of a test, including Bitcoin casinos, on-chain gambling websites, wallets (Coinbase specifically pointed out that a malicious user could take advantage of their hosted wallet to contribute to the flooding), exchanges, and many others. Users could also contribute by sending small amounts to common brain wallets.

We also learned that the situation could have been made worse by sending transactions with larger fees. We sent all transactions with the standard fee of 10000 satoshis per kb. If we had sent with 20000 satoshis per kb, normal transactions would have experienced larger delays. In our future stress tests, these lessons will be used to maximize the impact.

2637  Economy / Exchanges / Re: where buy bitcoin without verification ? on: June 28, 2015, 07:59:33 PM
Check out btc-e, they have a few methods that do not require verification, I believe.

Also Localbitcoins.com, you can meet a seller in person, use it at your own risk.
2638  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Reputable/Trustworthy Mixers on: June 28, 2015, 07:53:47 PM
Exchange your bitcoins for darkcoin with ShapeShift.io then exchange darkcoin for bitcoin again, your bitcoin blockchain trace is lost.
But shapshift.io charges quite a hefty fee, no?  At least that's what I heard.  I've used bitmixer.io multiple times without a problem, simply for testing purposes. Smiley

Seems fair:

What’s your fee structure?

We don't have a set markup, as our rate next to adjust for depth and spread considerations on particular pairs and markets. This means the amount that ShapeShift makes on any particular transaction varies based on the current market conditions. Depends on the liquidity and spread of that particular market ShapeShift's fee usually falls in the range of about 0.5-1% or so.

https://shapeshift.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/202585602-What-s-your-fee-structure-
2639  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Block chain related jobs for non devs on: June 28, 2015, 07:49:06 PM
Start sending your CV to everyone hiring, you might get lucky, there are a lot of bitcoin related startups and they're hiring!

What's your expertise?
2640  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is there a Bitcoin backed bank? on: June 28, 2015, 07:42:21 PM
There was an attempt to do that in 2013, early 2014, it didn't end well.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=289730.0
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