OK again, so no public proof = no proof.
Absolutely. You have no public proof that CSW is not satoshi. For the record: I am ambivalent on the matter. He may be; he may not. But you are falling upon the argument of the most fallacious nature. Lack of proof is not proof of the converse. |
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If Craig was Satoshi, why would he need to pull an elaborate hoax on Gavin Andresen where he presented keys that were already publicly available, embedded in the blockchain?
Careful with your assumptions there. You have absolutely _no_idea_ what evidence CSW presented to Gavin. Well, unless you are either Gavin or CSW -- both of which I find extremely unlikely. |
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So then why do so many people in the crypto community trash CSW and call him a scammer when there is legally verified evidence that he was a part of satoshi?
The community has not been presented with legally verified evidence that he was part of satoshi. |
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Segwit and nonsegwit are all "on the blockchain." I don't know how anyone who has been in bitcoin for a while would conclude that segwit is NOT on the blockchain? I do believe that segwit has allowed the transactions per second to jump up dramatically and if you hit refresh on that page you will see the transactions per second jumping around between 10tsp and over 300tsp... It seems that before segwit, there were proclamations that the bitcoin blockchain could only process a maximum of 7tps.
Yeah... about that.... Segwit or no segwit, BTC is utterly incapable of averaging 300 tps. By a couple orders of magnitude. Block weight will not allow it. |
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Here is an excerpt from the bitcoin white paper: Proof-of-work is essentially one-CPU-one-vote. The majority decision is represented by the longest chain, which has the greatest proof-of-work effort invested
in it. If BCH had not implemented replay protection, it would have been orphaned out of existence long ago. Well, no. Replay protection is not a feature necessary for maintaining a chain split. BTC still has the most hash rate invested in it. When and if things start turning around, BCH can claim that they are indeed bitcoin.
There are many perspectives from which you can view which is 'The Real Bitcoin'. Alas, I subscribe to a definition that works against where my heart is. As I dearly wish BCH was the market leader, but I must currently cede that position to BTC. That said, I do understand the arguments that claim BCH is The Real Bitcoin, and find that they are at least rational. Now one can argue that BTC has lost it's way and has strayed far from what is outlined from the original satoshi vision.
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Just a few questions I have. BCH was created because of the block size issue correct? How was bitcoin every supposed to achieve global adoption at a 1MB block size limit? Secondly, in the Kleiman Vs. Wright court documents, Craig Wright and David Kleiman are pointed out to be satoshi nakamoto. If BCH is faster and cheaper, why is it not better than Bitcoin then? Seems that the only argument people have for me against that is that BTC is the original and BCH is a copy. you my friend need to do a lot more research I have been researching this non stop and there are too many conflicting opinions, let me ask you this. If 5 billion people are demanding BCH to use as a currency every day, wouldn't that make the value of it skyrocket? Seems to me thats what bch wants to do. Also, there is a difference in what ABC wants to do with BCH than the direction Nchain wants to go with it. I know im missing alot of information, and I may have some facts wrong, but im still a noob and im still learning. I know there were more people involved in the satoshi nakamoto group but according to the legal documents in Kleiman V Wright, those two are the brains behind it, wright being the economical brain and kleiman being the technical brain if im not mistaken. Unless of course they stole the idea from someone else? Im not trying to debate, I will clarify again that I am a noob and have only been in the crypto space for about a year. I have many friends who have been in it since 2009 but they all have conflicting opinions with facts to back them up about the whole BTC/BCH feud. Im just trying to clear up the fog. Well, you're thinking for yourself -- that's good. You'll note that people like BitcoinPsycho never offer up any reasoning to back up their claims. He/she is just trying to browbeat you into toeing the Core narrative line. |
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Second post in that thread says it all: Grow a little bit, you post some photos of a guy having great time and you will make him look evil, this is silly AF
Bitcoin sonner or later will need an upgrade (HF there is no other choice) so one day or another people will have to admit another currency as the new bitcoin simple as that
It's like using an Apple 2 instead of a Macbook Pro just because it's the first computer with GUI lol come on, Bitcoin is unusable right now, implementing micro payment services are impossible on BTC and don't tell me BTC is a store of value like gold and blabla
Satoshi's vision was to make a P2P cash system, nothing more nothing less
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Bitfinex price right now... 6666.6666$... some devil worshiper trader... please stop this!  PepperidgeFarmRemembers.jpg https://imgur.com/gallery/FfYZp(WTF did imgur do with the BBCode links? They're dead to me. Grrr.) |
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10/28/2018
New ATH.
Cool! Oh. Wait. user name checks out |
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Scammers/hackers might be some of the smartest people in the world, at least in terms of their innovative attempts to steal money (aside from wallstreet and high level banker types).
Pfft. Please. As a class, the pinstriped bandits are rather dullardly. How many of them are there? How long have they had control of the financial system? A handful of grifting innovations since 1910 or so, followed by endless repetition of the same, does not constitute innovative nor smart. |
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[ meat -ed ]
Carry on.
Edited multiple times due to typos due to screwdrivers.
Careful with that axe, Eugene. That's how the term 'hodl' got its start. Good to see you supplementing your vitamin C. |
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Things to keep you up at night in ponderation: Does that revenue figure include revenue taken in crypto, or only that actually held in fiat? |
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edit: strikethroughs and underlines - hunting season, what can I say?
Deer? Deer archery with granddaughter two weeks ago. Deer muzzleloader last week. Elk (Private Land Only) from last week to about end of January. The tell was that my mind was on Minutes Of Angle -- MoA -- which I absentmindedly subbed for MoE -- Medium Of Exchange. Not much use for MoA in archery. But here in the west, shots of several hundred yards are rather commonplace. MoA is the proper way to think about ballistics at range. (Not to be confused with that Marcus guy either) |
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Either way it’s frustrating atm sitting on what most people would call a lot of money but myself, knowing I can’t spend it YET because it’s not enough to live on forever.
My nocoiner friends think I am absolutely daft not having sold for whatever, to them quite impressive, fiat sum I might have got near the top. People lack imagination, generally, and work isn't so bad. A bit of structure in ones life helps keep the really serious alcoholism in check. Yeah, nocoiners don't understand hodl in the slightest. The ones telling me to sell at $1.1k in 2013 were giving me the same advice at $19k in 2018. Even after I brought to their attention it was the same advice they gave me 1600% ago, they persisted - "just sell half of them!". I have to disagree w.r.t. " work isn't so bad" though... they've really cut back on the numbers of people and expect even more work from the remainder of us. Also, taking time off was never an issue in the past but in the last 3 years it's very difficult. We have extended blackout periods on vacation that creep into July and the talk is that next year it will be into early August - it's enough to drive one to really serious alcoholism. I know... waaa! One think about work is that it is so much less stressful when you know you can say "fuck off and die cocksucker" anytime you want and just walk away with a smile.  Life is funny. I genuinely _liked_ my job. Can't say I miss it, though. |
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After all, one of the narratives is that BCH is not supposed to be used for a store of value;
Whose narrative is that? I don't recall that position ever being advocated by anyone of note. Ability to be used as a medium of exchange (MoE) certainly does not preclude ability to be used as a store of value (SoV). Indeed, there is significant evidence that MoE is necessary for any commodity to become a SoV. And a reasonable theory that any commodity that loses its MoE will therefore lose its ability to be a SoV. Which bodes poorly for BTC, unless the LN grows quickly by several orders of magnitude. I don't know shit about BCH but it is a simple inheritance thing isn't it? Bitcoins original vision was not to be a store of value but a currency. BCH shills have been screaming since day one they will stick to that vision. So yeah there is that. don't get yourself caught in any circular logic trap here. Who has caught themselves in a circular logic trap? To be a money, a thing needs to be SoV and MoA MoE. BCH aspires to be a money. MoA MoE does not imply NOT SoV. A does not imply NOT B. There's your logic. edit: strikethroughs and underlines - hunting season, what can I say? |
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Hey guys what are the known places to invest your earnings to generate more earnings?
Bookstores, other stores of knowledge, and any technology that lets you accomplish more in less time. |
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Hm? So this makes the core developers less godly and more human, I suppose? And, in your view, elevates the prestige of bcash developers?
No and no. The Core devs are just as human as they ever were. But perhaps the hubris of their acolytes may have been knocked down an appropriate peg or two. (well, a person could hope...) There is nothing wrong with real life situation causing more humbleness, A bigger or wiser person would not wait until life kicks them in the teeth to admit that perhaps they don't have all the answers. Especially when such claims of omniscience require the belittling of others, without bothering to understand their concerns. |
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Hm? So this makes the core developers less godly and more human, I suppose? And, in your view, elevates the prestige of bcash developers?
No and no. The Core devs are just as human as they ever were. But perhaps the hubris of their acolytes may have been knocked down an appropriate peg or two. (well, a person could hope...) |
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I wonder if it's fair to say that BCH took more of the people who saw Bitcoin ideolologically as a way to fight against the dollar and government.
I certainly feel that to be the case. Then again, I'm not exactly an impartial observer. Where are the sociological statisticians when you need them? This leads to more internal struggle about now what is their one true Bitcoin and the one true way it should be
Hmm. Seems to me that the SV initiative could lay a legitimate claim to this, but that the ABC camp is abandoning that hill. Maybe multiple camps on the ideological front is leading to multiple camps on the implementation front? |
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I guess you didn't get the memo. The person who discovered and responsibly disclosed this devastating bug was a bcasher.
neener neener neener.
Even if true, that is no slam dunk in your favor... but I would concede that if true, I would have to reconsider a variety of my presumptions about bcashers and the folks who are working on it. Time to get busy reconsiderin' Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence
Nothing extraordinary about this claim. You're looking foolish, BTW. Your the one who is being disingenuous (which can likely be described as foolish, too), if you supposedly have evidence and you are not sharing it. Jeebus. Self-imposed blinders. Again. Now you're looking foolish. Again. And it's not even that the fact that it took a beeeecasher to find a potentially devastating Core bug is any great shakes. The significant thing here is that it lays bare the absurdity of the echo-chamber driven narrative of 'our devs walk on water, all other devs are slime dwelling script kiddies'. |
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