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2621  Economy / Gambling / Re: Cloudbet | Bitcoin Casino & Sportsbook | The No.1 Bitcoin Gambling Site on: September 20, 2021, 08:48:36 AM
How long did the KYC take for you? Been waiting since Sunday, and they said 24-72 hours. Support "cannot give me an answer because it's a 3rd party who does the verification". Bit annoying. Have to add that the first 2 withdrawals (when I didn't need KYC yet) went quickly, thumbs up for that.

Edit: I'm verified  Cool
How long did it take? I've been waiting for 48 hours so far.


Good to hear!

Cloudbet doesn't have the best track record when it comes to these things historically.

I've heard multiple accounts of KYC being slow and/or being applied on accounts that have been flagged randomly. It's not a problem if you are not in a rush and willing to verify, but certainly take this into account if you are!

@nurvnurv thanks for updating this ANN about your KYC status, since many users were complaining that they were yet not verified, and now it seems that Cloudbet is working again on KYC requests. @Winwin96 48 hours is too soon for them, and as @Kyraishi said they don’t have a record of being fastest when it comes to KYC verification hence give them some more time.
2622  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 on: September 20, 2021, 05:58:31 AM
I wonder what clear instructions are needed for Manchester United? The team has strengthened quite well, and the return of such a megastar as Ronaldo is generally a wonderful thing both in terms of the game and the media popularity of the player himself.
They don't need any instruction, they has won.
Very interesting match, West Ham vs MU, seems Lingard has paid for his mistake from the champion league by created a winning goal yesterday. Ronaldo also has played well, he just get harmed by the referee, several time he received a tackle in front of the goal, but he didn't get the penalty, but when Shaw accidentally nudge the ball, Westham got the penalty prize, fortunately, De Gea can read ball direction and keep the winning.

@blue Snow even though Manchester United won but this was not a great performance, because they left it so late to win this match and what’s the use of so many attacking player’s if they can’t score goals quickly. Lastly against a tougher team Manchester United won’t win, and that penalty kick made me wonder if Moyes wanted Manutd to win?.

Source:

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11661/12412349/west-ham-1-2-man-utd-sky-sports-pundits-surprised-by-mark-noble-penalty-decision
2623  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🚀-Sportsbet.io-🚀 - Main sponsor of Southampton FC 👋👋 on: September 19, 2021, 10:43:16 AM
Quite a performance from Saints and Arsenal last night, wasn't it? Suddenly Arsenal don't look in such a precarious position anymore, 4 points behind Citeh, how quickly 2 games can change things. Sportsbet must be happy at the office!
<snip>
I see you're another hedge lover. When I have 3 or 4 legs done in my daily 5-legs boosted insured acca on SB, I go for a nice hedge or two as well. It's beautiful;) You insure full with a handicap or double chance?
Well I said here or in some other thread few times before, Arsenal has way too good squad to be in relegation battle. They will finish in top half of the table no matter their rocky start. It is unrealistic to expect Champions League positions, both Manchesters, Liverpool and Chelsea are in the league of their own this season, but they will fight for other European places with Leicester, Everton, Spurs and West Ham.

If you are doing a hedge bet, only "full insurance" makes sense in a way that you cover all possible results. I never insure for full amount, meaning if my original bet passes I'll get big winnings and if my hedge passes I'll just return the stakes or make minimal money. That being said if game starts as per my prediction and my hedge bet odds raise to respectable levels than I'll put more on it.

@buywaytress I don’t think Arsenal are yet out of the hook because, they won by just a goal and they’ll need to win consistently before they get some respect from their fans hence I won’t advise on wagering on them.

Also the problem isn’t the squad it’s Arteta he just doesn’t have the right mindset to lead Arsenal, but if the squad plays for him and win then he might just survive this season too and as @Trofo rightly said play in the Europa League.
2624  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in-$200 FreeBTC⭐Win Lambo🔥0.2BTC DailyJackpot🏆$32,500 Wager Contest on: September 19, 2021, 07:16:24 AM
Oh well I look forward then to having some NFL games to pick through in the near future.  A bit surprised to hear the NFL is your least favorite sport, but to each their own though.  If nothing else, it's a great betting sport so at least it should drum up some extra wagering business for the site once you get some games up.

You are correct that it's a popular sport for betting. The bets last year took a decent amount so that's why I'm keen to do it again. My personal tastes don't decide what we cover but they do have an effect on me noticing what events are happening.

@jaysabi even if he doesn’t like the sport that doesn’t mean it won’t be added if there’s lot of demand for it, because a while back many users requested NBA bets and he added them despite not having those on his bets list. Also @TheQuin is the most transparent manager ever, and he constantly studies what Freebitco users wants and tries to implement their requests as and when he can.
2625  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: September 19, 2021, 05:33:52 AM
Lewis should be grateful that the halo is used, which once again saved the life of another pilot, despite the fierce disputes over the need to use it at the time.

Yes, this is the most important thing here. The halo has proven its worth quite a few times now. It may not look great, but it's absolutely the best new introduction to F1 in recent years.
And yes there was quite a lot of controversy about it when it was first brought in, but it has really proven its importance since then. I don't think anyone can argue against it having been a huge success.
This certainly correct that Halo has already saved lives, probably with Grosjaen and possibly Hamilton although I'm not sure.
The Halo would probably have saved one or the greatest racer's life -> Ayrton Senna.
But every racing driver is aware of what he is doing as a job and consciously risks his life. Niki Lauda once had a fitting quote on this.

Since its introduction in 2018, the halo has created some controversy, but I think it has proven its worth over time. It's like having something to protect the driver rather than having nothing. I think it's a win-win situation over here. Although I'm not sure if that effects the driving or creates any kind of wind drag or something.

I don’t know why no one mentioned it above but Hamilton was one of its critic, and after it saved his life he suddenly began to sing praises of it which shows that Drivers don’t know it all, and they should chose carefully to oppose stuff when it comes to their safety. Furthermore do you think their duel is over, or we will see another crash between these two, but I do sincerely hope that they bury their differences and not repeat such stunts again.

Read Here:

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/motor-racing/lewis-hamilton-criticises-new-f1-halo-concept-worst-mod-formula-1-history-a6911546.html

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/sep/12/halo-saved-my-life-says-lewis-hamilton-after-verstappen-crash-at-italian-gp
2626  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: September 18, 2021, 01:16:32 PM
Juventus FC - AC Milan

what does that mean:



that Milan is so bad in relation to Juventus or have these oddsmakers decided to give an early Christmas present giving this odd of @3.45?



I bet on Milan, I'm a fan of juventus but juventus is weak, even if they won in the champions league that doesn't mean they went back to winning ways, so I can see the team that juventus won in the champions league was a very weak team with a history of conceding many goals. I think Milan is strong, they have good defense and good attack and they can win this game and that odd of @3.45 seems very good to me.



Holy, I didn't follow Juventus in the Serie A recently. I just tried to discover them in the top half of the table... Napoli against Juventus was 25 : 8 shots with 68 : 32 % possession. This doesn't look good at all for Juventus. Great times seem to be put on ice.

I wouldn't say this is by any means going to be an easy win for Ac Milan, but odds are quite decent given the current situation.
This choice is also my choice for now and will still consider it until tomorrow, because Milan currently looks better than Juventus and it's proven. Even though Milan lost in the UCL against Liverpool, Milan can provide a tough fight there. That way, of course Milan have better preparations and it looks like Milan will continue their good trend against Juventus. In fact, in their last game last season, the fact that Milan could beat Juventus 0-3 despite playing away, it looks like the trend will continue.

And also keep in mind that winning in Anfield Road isn't an easy thing to do anyway! Tongue

I would say that favoring Ac Milan in this game is a justified decision. It is not that Ac Milan is far superior, but they can certainly be favored to some degree. Anyway, the good thing is that the match up is worse watching! Wink

I don’t know who set those odds, but he surely won’t be happy giving away such beautiful odds for Ac Milan and it’s an easy choice to wager on Ac Milan because of their current form. Furthermore Juventus have lost it in the league with the way they have been playing, hence I won’t be surprised if they end up losing this fixture too.
2627  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: September 18, 2021, 10:02:27 AM
Just readed that Hertha Berlin has won there match against Greuther Fürth with 2 scored goals and i was expecting this and got my bet right.
I havnt seen any review of the game but when i look at the statistics of the game it looks like Hertha Berlin was better .

There are a few interesting games today , specialy Bayern Munich vs Bochum , Hoffenheim vs Arminia Bielefeld and
lets see what Leipzig will be doing today and if they have recovered from the game they lost in the Week.

@Lafu without a doubt Hertha Berlin were the better team, and lucky for you it was the team you wagered on so this must be a sweet victory for you.

The game that I'm curious about now is Koln v Leipzig today. So far, Leipzig have been having a nightmare in the league and in the Champions League also. They conceded 10 goals in their last two official games. They have collected only 3 points in 4 games in the Bundesliga so far. Koln on the other hand got two wins in those games and they have 7 points now. And Leipzig couldn't beat Koln in their last two head-to-heads. Koln beat them by 2-1 in their last game home. I think that both teams will score but Koln won't be the losing side here.

@Pulsar77 Leipzig isn’t a bad team but unfortunately they haven’t clicked yet, and who knows this match can be a turning point for them, however I won’t get my hopes high already because of their recent performances.
2628  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 on: September 18, 2021, 06:48:35 AM
I don't think any team other than Barcelona, ​​Real Madrid and Atletico Madrid will win the title this season. Sevilla is a good team. But they are not strong enough to win the title. Real Sociedad and Athletico Bilbao are similar.
You are right. If we consider the squad quality, there are no other teams that can have a chance to win the La Liga title. Only Real Madrid, Atletico Madrid, and Barcelona can compete for the title. Sevilla, Bilbao, Real Sociedad, and Valencia are good teams, but they are difficult to compete for the title with their current squad. Competing for the title needs to keep good performance for 38 matches, not many clubs can do it with limited quality players in the squad. Especially when some key players probably get injured and there are no other players who can replace their roles. Those clubs like Sevilla, Bilbao, Real Sociedad, and Valencia may experince this.


Sevilla and Real Sociedad are good team but they not consistent and not have mentality for getting champion, learn with Real Sociedad last season dominance on league stable for the top position almost few weeks but at the end they not consistent and have miss to play for champion league after finish under top four position. I think Sevilla is the same club like Sociedad they can't keep consistent to win every match exactly with bigger club like Madrid, Atletico and Barcelona. How ever keep favorite third club to get champion and close with Atletico because they have good and solid team right now but I believe Real Madrid as the winner in this season not only in La Liga but also on UEFA Champion league.

I totally agree with you guys as the competition is between those 3, but from what I have seen I feel that Real Madrid will win it. Also Atletico Madrid are looking strong, but I feel that soon they’ll start dropping points, and Barcelona will have to settle for the second or the third spot.
2629  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cricket match prediction discussions on: September 18, 2021, 03:07:05 AM
What New Zealand did today is not acceptable and they should be held accountable for that by ICC.

Rameez Raja has a very clear stance on it and i think we as a nation should boycott Cricket relations with New Zealand unless they agree to play the full series in our country.

@UmerIdrees it’s a delicate situation for Pakistan, because if ICC finds favour in New Zealand’s merit then many other teams that were traveling to Pakistan will also cancel their tours. Also boycotting is not an solution, they should work with New Zealand and see how they make it mutually beneficial maybe play more games at a neutral venue, because gaining some revenue from this series is better than losing it all.

Source:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2021/09/17/englands-tour-pakistan-serious-doubt-new-zealand-tour-cancelled/
2630  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ English Premier League Season: 2021/2022 on: September 17, 2021, 12:53:45 PM
^  Lol.  Too many people itt expecting too much from United.  Prolly cos of Ronaldo?  Cheesy  Ronaldo can only do what he can but without a great manager, United’s chances to win the league are only slightly better than Nuno’s Spurs imho.  Solksjaer is holding the club back...  Even with Mike Phelan backing him.

Anyway...  Lukaku anytime goal scorer at 2.14 could be a good spot this weekend.

@tokeweed not only Solksjaer but the board too, because RB and CM were a big issue but they didn’t have any money for those and yet they spend money on Ronaldo which shows some poor planning by the board. Lastly I believe that Lukaku will end as the premier league top goal scorer, because of his hot form.
2631  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod] on: September 17, 2021, 10:34:15 AM
Both board may blame each other but the big question is who is more beneficial on the final decision on the 5th test match ?

For that, the decision needs to be known. The ICC hasn't taken a decision yet. BCCI has requested them to consider the 5th test as "no result". However the ECB is arguing that it should be "forfeited by India". Depending on the ICC, the series may either be won by India 2-1, or drawn at 2-2. The real losers are TV broadcasters and sponsors. And for the ECB, the question mark remains on the financial impact. Depending on which way the ICC takes it's decision, they may be eligible for the insurance payout or not.

@bryant.coleman ECB is one of the biggest loser if the result goes against them, because then they can’t claim the insurance money and they lose the trophy too. Also ICC can’t risk upsetting BCCI so the only logical solution is to have this test at a later stage, and bend the rules and say due to covid we had to allow this, and by bending the rules ICC can satisfy all the parties involved.

Source:

https://www.timesnownews.com/sports/cricket/article/the-insurance-clause-triggering-cold-war-between-bcci-and-ecb-over-cancelled-manchester-test/811664
2632  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: September 17, 2021, 08:09:25 AM
Nice are having a completely different season so far. They have had a far better start comparing to the last season. They don't have any loss and won three of their four matches. Lyon also started recovering after beating Strasbourg 3-1 also. But I will not be able to use the similar words for Monaco I'm afraid. They are just lost now. They were beaten by Marseille also and it was a home match. Monaco are just going the opposite way completely this season.
Monaco performance against Marseille was worst. The match was their home match, but they couldn't score any goal and even ended the match with 0 shot on target. Also out of the 5 matches they have played, Monaco only manage to win 1. They are also playing the Europe League, and need to improve their performance. Although, they won their first Europe League match yesterday against SK Sturm Graz. However, their next match is against Nice on Sunday. Nice is not a weak team and more over, is their home match, I don't think Monaco will be able to win the match.

@blackened515 the victory in Europe should boost their morale which has been down due to continuously losing matches, but if they fail to replicate their winning form on Sunday then they may be in big trouble. Lastly I expect Nice to win their game against Monaco, because in their last two games they have scored many goals and won the match comfortably hence they’re in a better form in comparison to Monaco.
2633  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: September 17, 2021, 04:03:34 AM
Pakistan vs Newzealand ODI series starts today. The match will be played in Rawalpindi Pakistan. I am not sure but I think this is the first time an international team will be playing in Pakistan this year. 3 ODIs will be played between them and I think Pakistan will dominate this series as it is played in their home ground.

@pakhitheboss indeed Pakistan will have a strong advantage due to the home factor, and New Zealand will have to play their best game if they wish to win this game. Also I personally feel that Pakistan will defeat New Zealand easily, but is there anyone here that’s expecting the opposite if yes please share your reasons with us?.
2634  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup in Qatar - UEFA Qualifiers on: September 16, 2021, 01:14:42 PM
Well Turkey has been playing really bad in the EUROs and the WCQ currently.Before the EURO started Turkey played probobly the best football and i really had high hopes for them to make a good result in the EUROs.Something happened there and the change of the coach needed to happen.Hopefully they start playing better now.
It took some times to see that happening at the end eventually.. Hopefully such change might make the team play better tactically Undecided

The fact that he can still replicate his form at 34years old is something most top players don’t do. I think Meesi will score more goals this coming two seasons because he will not have to worry more about progressing the ball like he was doing in Barcelona where he had to do everything.
With Mbappe, Neymar and the others, it will be a challenge who will score more there.
There is no doubt that Messi is still fit and if there is something that changed in PSG is the fact that he can count on his teammates way more than in Barca Wink

@snipe Messi role will either be a target man to stay in the penalty box and just score, or he’ll be asked to make those passes for Neymar and Mbappe and either way I don’t expect many goals from him. Also Turkey needs to introspect how they failed to perform, and rework their strategies for their upcoming matches.
2635  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: September 16, 2021, 10:36:09 AM
Any team needs a player like Lewandovski. I'm also quite sure Liverpool will be in the market for Haaland next season. It is not that they do not want a striker, the problem is that they do not want to overspend for one that's not better than Firmino.

Both Haaland and Lewandovski would further improve them and they would jump at the opportunity to get them if they had the money to do it.

They won't go for Lewa for sure due to his age and resell value but Haaland is a perfect signing for Liverpool's transfer policy - young, huge potential, tolerable release clause. I expect Liverpool to push really hard to get him.

@cryptofrka no Liverpool won’t target him and the reason is his agent who’ll demand such huge fees that Liverpool will instantly back out. Furthermore Liverpool is interested in Mbappe but he’s Madrid bound, so Liverpool should target Lewandovski as he’ll be much affordable in comparison to Halland and his agent fees.

Read Here:

https://rushthekop.com/2021/05/31/can-liverpool-buy-kylian-mbappe-yes-can/ (little old but yet relavant)

https://liverpooloffside.sbnation.com/liverpool-fc-transfer-news/2021/4/5/22367166/gerard-romero-reveals-astronomical-agent-fees-wage-demands-for-erling-haaland-mino-raiola-liverpool
2636  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽UEFA Europa Conference League Discussion Thread on: September 16, 2021, 06:55:28 AM
~snip

Teams like Roma and Tottenham are a bigger quality then all other teams in this competition. This tournament also gives a chance to the teams that have a lot less quality to play in the group stage of any europe competition. Group stage isnt much good but this are really solid teams and 90% of them deserve to be in the group stages of a european tournament

agree, Tottenham and Roma hardly can miss top two positions in their group, so I do not expect from them to play with top teams tonight
nevertheless, Roma will probably win with any team that goes on the pitch, for Tottenham that is not so certain, Rennes is a solid football club

Partizan is playing on Cyprus, and @2.1 is good value for the match, although there are some issues, and coach decided to leave three players home, which could signal some bad atmosphere in the team, but Anorthosis started their season on weekend with a loss, and they should be easy to overcome

@casperBGD it’s fair to say that Mourinho’s magic is rubbing on Roma player’s, because now they’re a transformed team that’s looking to challenge for all possible trophies. Lastly Tottenham is in a mess right now, and I won’t be surprised if they get eliminated quickly from this tournament.

Source:

https://www.eurosport.com/football/serie-a/2021-2022/inside-europe-how-jose-mourinho-is-looking-to-recreate-previous-success-in-italy-with-new-side-roma_sto8540137/story.shtml
2637  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tennis League All Thread on: September 16, 2021, 03:23:39 AM
It could be neck and neck between them, battling for #1.

If we are asking whether he can overtake Djokovic by the end of the year, then there's no need to look at current ranking points, and who has what from last year to drop.

Instead we only need to look at the race points, from the season so far. Medvedev has a 2,000 point deficit, or thereabouts. It's a big ask to overcome that by the end of the season. Even if he won everything, it would need Djokovic to score very very low points.

Exactly, I doubt that Medvedev can overtake Djokovic at the end of the year even if he won all the tournaments. So probably next year will be big for both players, Djokovic aiming to remain at the top, while Medvedev is closing in. And there could be surprises as well that can take away their race for the top spot. There's still Zverev and Tsitsipas that might spoil Medvedev chances and then the wave of young guys, Alcaraz, Sinner.

@Kemarit don’t we all know Djokovic’s history as he always bounces well from a loss, and I’m pretty sure that he’s not going to lose all the tournaments till the end of the year hence it’s safe that Medvedev won’t be able to dethrone him this year.

However next year both can have a fresh go at each other, and even Nadal should be fitter by then so it’ll be a really entertaining contest as to who’ll claim the top spot next year.
2638  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion on: September 15, 2021, 12:47:41 PM
My doubt is whether they will be able to cross the qualifying group. As they are showing now, it is not surprising if they cannot qualify for the World Cup. Nevertheless, Sri Lankan management is experienced. They have legendary players like Sangakkara, Malinga. They will probably advise the team to play T20 in the World Cup to play better.

In the end, the performance depends on the players and not on the coaching or the management staff. Some of the players have been in good form, such as Wanindu Hasaranga and Avishka Fernando. If they play together as a team, then under favorable ground conditions they should be able to defeat others. But if they get complacent, then it may not be even possible to move past the qualifying stage, as you have posted. And T20 is such an unpredictable format. There is a higher chance of upsets from associate nations.

I second @Vishnu.Reang because good coaches can only advice, but if the player’s fail to execute the coaches plans on the the pitch then the team is destined to fail. Also Srilanka will need a miracle to qualify, because in their current form I don’t have any hopes from them and may consider wagering against them if I get good odds.
2639  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - 2nd Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: September 15, 2021, 10:00:36 AM
on sunday the first north duel between werder bremen and HSV in the second Bundesliga will take place !
21000 fans are allowed into the Weser stadium on this match day. 1050 of them are fans from hamburg.
the game starts at 8:30 pm . my tip for this match: 3:1 for werder bremen

I agree with you. Werder Bremen are a good team in the second Bundesliga, here they are known as the strongest team. Hamburger SV on the other hand is not very strong. Yet they will try to resist the Bremen team. Hamburger adopts an aggressive strategy. It will be clear if you look at the statistics of their last few matches. They possess the ball more, and attack. I would not be surprised if the result of the match is 3-2. But Werder Bremen will be able to win.
Werder Bremen itself is a relegated team and I think that is still a factor in which Werder Bremen can indeed win this match. In addition, their head to head was clear that Werder Bremen dominated the victory, so it's not surprising that this match by acting as the host of Werder Bremen will be the favourites. Even though their current standing looks far away but in reality they only have a 2 point gap, and therefore fierce resistance will certainly occur but still the home team will still be able to control the game.

@hahay if you see Werder Bremen last four matches then you’ll see that they lost one, drew one and then won 3 - 0 in their previous two games which shows that they’re in superb form hence they may win again. However if they play in overconfidence then they may lose too like they did against  Paderborn, hence it’s a risky bet so wager carefully.
2640  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽UEFA Europa League Discussion Thread on: September 15, 2021, 07:05:14 AM
I didn't say Dinamo Zagreb can beat West Ham although it might be possible if WHU played miserably, I rather think that it might end with a draw if WHU isn't fit in that game or Dinamo showing an exceptional performance. If I have to choose, I think double chance West Ham or draw but the odds aren't interesting @1.37...

Yeah, I misread your post. West Ham could understimate Dinamo like other big teams did in the past do a draw is quite possible. If I were betting, I'd take x2 (draw or guest win) even though the odds are quite low.

@snipe I personally feel that West Ham have what it takes to win, and they very well know that winning the premier league is going to be difficult hence I’m hoping that they’ll focus a lot on prioritising the Europa League. Lastly I just hope that they don’t announce a weak lineup, because they’re facing Manchester United this weekend in the premier league.
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