Seriously, don't apologize.

I mean, what the hell? If it's on IRC, you're free to show it to the rest of the world, simple as that. And "lack of context"? What the fuck. It's a pretty long log, so it's hardly a single line or two "taken out of context".

Really, if you submitted that log, thanks!

Where do you get that from? Bitcoinaverage seems generally reliable on this, and they have stamp before finex

And they exclude gox volume, so it makes sense.

Thanks!

It depends on what time scale one thinks of.

I can see us above 530 for another few days (although I wouldn't bet on it), so buying back at 530 wasn't necessarily a bad move, but I also don't think the bear market is over yet. Agree, we will probably go sub-500 at some point in the near future (<1 month)

Agree. Taking a look at:



and concluding "now is the time to buy back in, big time" takes balls of steel. Then again, maybe you'll be richly rewarded by being this bold

Anyway... what's a "conchy drongo". Google seems to think it's a "conscientious idiot", which sounds like a contradiction in terms.

Agreed, if phrased like that. Same for Rannasha's argument. Keep it on-site, but under a menu would be the optimal solution IMO.

Completely missing the point there. "anti gox" in the context of this thread means "remove gox from charting website". And mostly clueless noobs come in here demanding that.

I will never trade on gox, but as long as others trade there, I want to be able to see it.

You missed my point. "It has been developed" is like saying "There is an exchange" 2 years ago. There was (almost) always more than one, and only time will tell which one will come out on top. That said, I'm not a big fan of NXT. Without getting into the semantics of whether it makes sense to say that a proof-of-stake coin is pre-mined in the sense that has been used as criticism against scammy alts, I don't like their 'founders monetization model' for the lack of a better term.

There are several groups working on them in ways that look professional to me. "I'd be willing to invest in them" professional, I mean. And I didn't even know the one Peter R. linked to. Decentralized exchanges will, almost certainly, hit our market big time, within one, maybe 2 years. The question is if, and if so, which one of them will became the "standard" system, how much of the total (fiat) exchange pie they will take up, and what amusing, as-of-yet unforeseeable consequences this change in our btc ecosystem will have (some form of  "network of escrows" will probably be unavoidable, and I'm already looking forward to the discussions and drama around how those will act)

If only there were groups/companies working on developing a provably secure (as far as the non-fiat side is concerned, at least), scalable, decentralized exchange setup *nudge* *wink*

Cry me a river. What happens if you *don't* comply with KYC/AML you can see over at your friendly neighborhood exchange mtgox. I prefer stamp to comply, and my funds to be safe. If you're so concerned about revealing your private data, which I can understand to a degree, use localbitcoin. Simple as that.

Yes, it's most likely real.

Some users reported not being able to withdraw BTC from stamp today, others were able to withdraw (me, for example), and just a few minutes ago, user/hazek (of Bitstamp itself) posted this in the Bitstamp thread:


We've discussed the whole thing on the wall thread for a while now, and I think the most likely scenario is that a few accounts were not necessarily compromised but at least *attempted* to be compromised, and they blocked withdrawal for those accounts until you tell them "Yeah, I'm good, my machine isn't compromised".

At least two users already said withdrawal worked again for them after they contacted stamp to tell them to re-enable withdrawals (one guy called them, instead of sending a mail).

Hope this shines some light on the situation.

And here is user/hazek (of Bitstamp)'s reply, just this second. Rather terse, they should really work on their communication, but in principle what most of use suspected:

Here's what I posted before, in the bitstamp thread and the wall thread:

You overestimate the power of those mystical whales. They move the market individually more than smaller traders, sure, but even they risk losing a lot if they go completely against the stream.

Go back to June/July 2013, and look at how the reversal unfolded back then.

a) the trend reversed in a very clear "organic" way, with buying pressure simply building up to the point where a reversal was quite clear by around July 8.

b) then came a number of big volume moves that might well have been whales. but, see a) above, they reacted to a (feebly, perhaps) established reversal.

c) then came a majestic dump, quite possibly a misguided whale seeing a chance to exit the game, or maybe an attempt to keep price down... didn't matter. It only threw us back maybe a week, then the upwards trend continued. Slow, very slow, for a long time, until the real rally started, but that's a different matter.

tl;dr Whales matter, but not as much as some people seem to think, and even whales can get burned if they act dumb.

Don't worry about Off topicness... this thread is *never* on topic

You should probably look into security in general. Do you use Linux, or Windows? If the latter, I guess a trojan might be able to intercept a screenshot somehow, but then again, if you have a trojan any password you enter or anything displayed on your screen might as well be game for the intruder.

My recommendation, if you have non-trivial amounts invested in BTC, is to get a cheap netbook, install Ubuntu on it, and use it exclusively for BTC trading and wallet software.

It's not quite the same level of safety as never connecting your machine to the Internet and only keeping funds in paper wallets, but it is almost certainly much safer than the common "Windows + no 2FA + not-that-great-password" setup...

Wait, what? My email of Bitstamp is *not* the same as that on my phone, and I *can* withdraw.

I'm confused... you can't withdraw, right?

That's a good point. May I suggest a solution?

Set up 2FA. You'll get a barcode that you scan with your phone to set it up on there.

But now don't click it away, but prt scrn, and PRINT that barcode on a piece of paper. Hide it somewhere that you deem safe. Maybe your wallet? Or maybe inside your copy of "2000 novel recipes made purely from Matzen"? Something like that.

If you ever lose the phone, or need to re-setup 2FA, get that printout, and scan it.

You're a smart one.

My app/android email =/= my bitstamp email.

Others?

Thanks.

Maybe the senders of the emails just went "fishing", attempting log in even if you didn't respond.

Then again, you need the account number to log in, so not sure how they would have gotten that one.