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26221  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Launching the Antminer L3+, World's Most Powerful and Efficient Litecoin Miner on: April 11, 2017, 10:06:13 PM
The deal is too good.
Bitmain is really smart and does not off deals this good.

Conclusion WTF are they up to.

if you do 5 % a jump at 10 cent power with ltc at 9.50 usd the gear will earn back fully in sixty days and turn a huge profit.



I rolled the dice and got 2, I estimate 120-180 ROI ... if they work.

For those interested or those that want to laugh at a $10k price tag, this listing shows someone had one in hand and they took some actual photos of it. https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/ANTMINER-L3-LTC-miner-504M-newest-scrypt-miner-Litecoin-mining-machine-504M-800W-on-wall-bettiner/227686_32797189350.html

yeah they may break a lot.

but i remember when they went head to head against spondoolies.  and they crushed them  they also dropped prices and flood the market with gear so much that btc dropped as low as 190 usd.

if they flood the ltc market with these  maybe ltc just drops in price a lot.

this is a very interesting move on their part.
26222  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Why is bitmain selling its new gear at cary low prices? on: April 11, 2017, 09:56:08 PM
Space

please  give your best ideas on this.

The current numbers I used are 5% per jump.
 jumps come fast for ltc  so 5%  is a high number to use.

This seems to be a market shifting move. On their part.
26223  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Why is bitmain selling its new gear at crazy low prices? on: April 11, 2017, 09:55:32 PM
I did a break down of 5% jumps at ten cents  on bitmain's new miner  for ltc

I would love to read guesses as to why a bargain price.


The deal is too good.
Bitmain is really smart and does not off deals this good.

Conclusion WTF are they up to.

if you do 5 % a jump at 10 cent power with ltc at 9.50 usd the gear will earn back fully in sixty days and turn a huge profit.

look at daily numbers


look at per diff jump


look at weekly


look at monthly

26224  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Launching the Antminer L3+, World's Most Powerful and Efficient Litecoin Miner on: April 11, 2017, 09:52:25 PM
The deal is too good.
Bitmain is really smart and does not off deals this good.

Conclusion WTF are they up to.

if you do 5 % a jump at 10 cent power with ltc at 9.50 usd the gear will earn back fully in sixty days and turn a huge profit.

look at daily numbers


look at per diff jump


look at weekly


look at monthly
26225  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: What setup for 10.000$ and (very) low power price on: April 11, 2017, 09:25:36 PM
you may consider A three prong attack:

The t9 from bitmain
about 11.5 th  it uses about 1500 watts that is about 0.00578 btc a day


the avalon 741 from cannan -------  nice gear I have three working very well.

it hashes at 7.4 th and uses about 1175 watts   that is about 0.00367 btc a day


the last leg is 1 gpu rig  using  nvidia 1070 cards.   4 cards  will do about 1800 h for zec  mine at niches and auto convert to btc.  power is around 600 watts for this rig it is earning about 0.008851 btc  for those 600 watts


I would consider mixing my gear up if I were you  since your power cap is 15 kwatts.

I am a lot like you as I have a deal with the owner of a solar array.
power is cheap but  8kwatts in the winter and 12 kwatts in the summer are my max numbers.
26226  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Third alt coin thread last two were too big. Builds links thoughts etc on: April 11, 2017, 08:24:39 PM

My 1080ti arrived a day late today ... I've not mined with Nvidia before ... so time for a few tests/tweaks ... using the latest 381.65 driver.

Straight off the bat (without making any voltage adjustments etc.) it's QUICK for sure! ... and throws out a fair amount of heat as well, fans set to 70% to keeps temp around 64 degrees.

Nicehash miner only offers to benchmark one algo, being Lyra2REv2: 63 MH/s, 282 watts rig draw at around $4.87 per day.

EWBF ZEC miner on Nicehash: 700 sols (fluctuates down to 682 sometimes), 291 watts rig draw at around $4.64 per day.

Nicehash Excavator: Equihash algo, 660 sols, 292 watts rig draw but it fluctuates wildly.

All the above are only 15/20 minute sessions so might be out a bit.

I hadn't even considered it might be suitable for Lyra2REv2, interesting GPU this.

Time to play with AfterBurner and see what can be tweaked, the core voltage seems to be locked? There must be a way to unlock that?



.

not sure about core unlock..

I think 378.78 driver may be better.

my entire rig is about 220 watts for 1 1080ti  at 70% power   giving 716 h  on th better   aorus 1080 ti

vs same watts  but 660 h on the zotac 1080 ti fe.  same settings.

I do have a 1500 watt titanium psu from rosewill
since I do 3 soon to be 4 cards  I am well under the 1500 watt max so my psu is 93-94%

I have a i5 6400 t cpu also a power saver and finally 1 stick of ddr4 ram a power saver.
along with a 128 gb samsung ssd.

this could be why a get 220 one card at the wall vs you getting 293 one card at the wall.

@ d57Heinz   I think  he is a bit off  with his best guess and high range numbers

he does not take into account people with super low power...   or people that winter heat with older s-3's  .

In my area we have 3 or 4 senior citizen developments that use electric heat.  No heat pump just baseboard radiators .  I know of a few people heating with s-3's the power cost is exactly the same as it would be for using the baseboard radiator.   so a 400 dollar bill  for 4 months is common for them.  but they get back btc.

so spend 400  either way  but the s-3 way you get around 100 a month back in btc. that is with 10 cent power.

also  with limited free power which some people have  3 s-3's will gen 30 a month.

So My guess is he is a bit off  as he leaves that  out a bit.
so maybe the best guess is 5-10% low and the high number is 5-10 too low.

but more of a gut feeling then a truth.

26227  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Review of new stud hub from Klintay on: April 11, 2017, 06:46:26 PM
Came today and it is really nice.

I am doing two sticks  a compac and a 2pac

I have a fan  and I am able to do high freq of 275-300 on the 2 pac

it is doing close to 30gb

more to come
26228  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [30+PH] KanoPool kano.is 0.9% PPLNS US,DE,SG,JP,NL,NYA 🐈 on: April 11, 2017, 05:01:58 PM
Block! by gtso Smiley
most likely an S7
and a payout Smiley

Ah finally!  Been a while since I found a block and yes a S7LN!

Way to go bro!
26229  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Third alt coin thread last two were too big. Builds links thoughts etc on: April 11, 2017, 04:21:21 PM

Mobo shortage is one thing, but have you guys noticed the severe shortage of MSI rx 470 4GB lately?


 *ALL* RX 4xx series cards are being discontinued as AMD has shifted production to the RX 5xx series leaving the RX 4xx cards limited to stock/chips on hand.
 Availability issues on the RX 4xx series has ZERO to do with "altcoin pricing" at this point.

 Similarly, AMD seems to have ended production of the chips for the Fury line a couple-three months back anticipating the impending release of the VEGA cards.


Did it occur to you  that  they stopped making  the rx 470 and rx 480  switching to the rx 570 and rx 580   with no "real" upgrade simply  due to the hotness of the gpu coin world.

they  did the  7970  to r 280  which is basically the same card  in the midst of  ltc hotness  back in the day.

seems to me they are doing this to make $$ on cards.

Here what happens  the rx 470 and rx 480 all dry up.  They hold back the rx 570 and rx 580 just a bit  they then come out at top dollar and miners  will buy

Just tossing it out as a thought.

Today I ordered  my third nvidia 1080ti  got it at best buy.



http://www.bestbuy.com/site/pny-founders-edition-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-11gb-gddr5x-pci-express-3-0-graphics-card/5793701.p?

tax is 7%  rebate via best buy points is 6%    so it was 707 usd.  I have elite plus status  so I get a 45 day return policy on it.

so I will soon have a 2500 four card rig pulling only 785 watts for zec.
26230  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [150TH] [PPLNS 0.5%] Jonny's Mining Emporium (bravo-mining.com) on: April 11, 2017, 04:09:09 PM
Wel it was a good shot, think I'll be pulling out soon.

maybe next week I will shoot some coin here again.
26231  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Help me spend my bonus money on a nvidia card for zec on: April 11, 2017, 02:47:36 PM
I've got a 1060 6GB humming along at 320+ and hoping to grab a couple of 1080ti's shortly.

Do you guys mine directly to ZEC or just use nicehash and have it converted to BTC?

for now nicehash to btc
26232  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: GPU & CPU BENCHMARKS FOR ZCASH MINING! on: April 11, 2017, 11:50:27 AM
Three cards

Pulls 616 watts at the kill-a-watt meter
___________________________________________
Aorus 1080ti  716 h

About 75 power limit

Core 125  1843 core
Vm.  346  5346 memory
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@





_______________________________________
Zotac 1080 ti. Fe 660 h.

Power   72%

Core     +180   1721 core
Vm.   +360   5355 memory
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@



_____________________________________

Zotac 1080 mini. 500 h

Power 72
Core 222    1709  core
Vm.  444     4957 memory
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@


Total 1876   using 616 watts at watt meter



thanks phil, please add mining software & OS to submit those cards.

Btw, on values like Core: 200 and Vm. 350, is it 2000 Mhz (Core)/3500 Mhz (Memory)?

 Ewfb_  lastest 3.3b   windows 7 pro..

those  numbers are msi after burner settings.

so I made some corrections above.  put in actual msi readings for core and ram on each of the 3 cards
26233  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: BAIKAL GROUPBUY 4 - RESERVATION on: April 11, 2017, 11:29:04 AM
maybe one . I need to know

1) price
2) power it uses
3) hash rate


hash 300mhs

price 799 atm but we are working on something better

power usage
quark 50w
qubit 55w
x13 87w
x14 89w
x15 91w
x11 75w

Okay I have a small 5mh  usb from another company  this looks a lot better then my piece of gear
26234  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Is mining still profitable? on: April 11, 2017, 11:21:10 AM
Short answer : Yes

Long answer the yes depends  on a lot of factors.

Power cost.
Gear Cost.
Gear reliability.

Give me 1000 dollars  and 5 cent a kilowatt I will make money
26235  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: GPU & CPU BENCHMARKS FOR ZCASH MINING! on: April 11, 2017, 04:36:23 AM
Three cards

Pull 616 at the kill-a-watt meter

Aorus 1080ti  716 h

About 68 power limit

Core 125
Vm.  300







Zotac 1080 ti. Fe 630 h.

Power 68
Core 125
Vm.  300

Zotac 1080 mini. 500 h

Power 72
Core 200
Vm.  350



Total 1846

26236  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [30+PH] KanoPool kano.is 0.9% PPLNS US,DE,SG,JP,NL,NYA 🐈 on: April 11, 2017, 03:30:01 AM

I am likling these numbers




26237  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [150TH] [PPLNS 0.5%] Jonny's Mining Emporium (bravo-mining.com) on: April 11, 2017, 01:57:09 AM
WOW! Those numbers are looking awesome! Hope we hit something soon

I am done .  I am out of coin for rentals.
26238  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [30+PH] KanoPool kano.is 0.9% PPLNS US,DE,SG,JP,NL,NYA 🐈 on: April 11, 2017, 01:42:43 AM
I bow down to the great snake as he or she is the master of blocks for  now. Grin
26239  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: BAIKAL GROUPBUY 4 - RESERVATION on: April 11, 2017, 01:37:50 AM
maybe one . I need to know

1) price
2) power it uses
3) hash rate
26240  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Third alt coin thread last two were too big. Builds links thoughts etc on: April 10, 2017, 10:51:37 PM
Anyone here had any issues with strap-modding MSI 470 4gb?  I built my 4th rig yesterday... got 2 new 470s up and running smoothly on ETH+DCR but when I tried strap-modding each, it appeared to work fine but upon reboot, both showed up with an error in Device Manager and were not recognized.

This occurred trying them 1 at a time. First, I did device 0, which has Samsung memory, so I strap-modded using the 1750 timings. It appeared to take but after reboot, I got the login & desktop screens in extra-large text (like before the AMD drivers are installed). Then sure enough, the GPU was not recognized. This is the GPU i have my monitor plugged into.  Tried reboots to no avail, so flashed the ROM back to original and it worked fine after the reboot.

Next, I tried the strap-mod on device 1 (Hynix) copying the timings from 1500.  Again, appeared to update fine but after reboot, device manager did not recognize it.  Flashed back to original ROM and it's fine again.

Has anyone experienced this or have suggestions on what to try to fix it?  This is an almost identical build to my last rig, which took all strap-mods fine on first attempt. The only real difference is that I am using a Biostar TB85 mobo (vs the ASRock BTC Pro 2 in my last 2 builds) but I can't imagine that being the issue.

A similar thing did happen to me on my 2nd rig, but I soon moved to W10 (from W7) and since was able to strap-mod all without issue.

The only thing I can think of (but doesn't seem likely) is that I got the 2 mixed up and flashed with the wrong mod (Samsung 1750 vs Hynix 1500) but I went based the order GPUs are listed in GPU-z.  Based on my last 2 rig's setup, GPUz seemed to be the only consistent way to determine device #, but maybe that was just luck.  Meaning, the first GPU in the drop-down is device 0 and the last is device 5.  I suppose it's possible that I added the GPUs in a different order on the other 2 rigs because on this one, I added the first in the x16 slot, then the 2nd to the first x1 slot, which could have mixed things up device wise, since I think I added them in line order last 2 rigs.  Anyway, probably the best thing to do it take out that Hynix from the x1 slot and add a Samsung there (assuming i have another Samsung) and then try to 1750-mod them both and see what happens.  That's probably quicker and easier than un-installing everything and re-installing in line order.

Anyway, any tips or similar experiences would be appreciated!




gpu order on gpu-z could be weird due to different rams

try 1 rx 470   put the other one in another room to avoid confusion.

check it to see if it is the samsung  if it is flash it as a samsung.

some where I read weird things can happen on some samsung ram
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