Apparently there is an alternative like bitpay for altcoins: https://www.coinpayments.netThey appear to accept quite alot of altcoins , however no NXT (technical issues ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) ) If these technical issues is a constraint to get a currency accepted to an exchange or other thing like this coinpayments, is this something that can be taken into account during development? Or is this just something that the exchanges have to deal with? Well I'd assume that the NXT API is different for a reason so it's probably something that the exchanges are going to have to deal with.
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im sorry too but that is only when it is taken out of context!
the way it is written is misleading! it should have stated that buy ins for relatives are allowed, however to do so you must set up a second acc for your relative. this would have been much much clearer!
"4. How could you prevent multiple buy-ins ?
In short - We can't. Multiple buy-in will be possible with multiple accounts."
ie. how can you prevent sockpuppets.. you cant.. people will be able to open as many accounts as they like..
it then goes on to say
"We also want ***you*** to have the ability to buy a NEM stake *FOR* your loved ones so they could all join the movement."
these are two separate statements and do not read the way you may intend. this is very very misleading and if it had be communicated correctly this error never would have happened! if it had been written correctly i would have just opened the second account!
Well many people seem to have understood it. TBH I would never have understood it "your" way but hey... Look it's really not that big a deal. If your brother is interested, he can open an account and claim the second stake you already bought.
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hi on your plan thing it says anyone with duplicate names will be removed from stake holder list, however it also says you can claim a stake for a relative.. i did so with my own account so my name is in the list twice but i stated on the comment that it is for my brother?? i dont think i have broken any rules have i??
Unfortunately you have broken the rules. It is correct that you are allowed to claim a second stake but only with a second account. The reson for that is that we don't need investors as much as participants. Every stakeholder should have an account because every stakeholder should participate in the movement. However if your second stake get's removed you will not loose your money. AFAIK worst thing that can happen is being refunded. but it doesnt say anywhere that i have to open a second account.. it states that "In short - We can't. Multiple buy-in will be possible with multiple accounts. We also want ***you*** to have the ability to buy a NEM stake *FOR* your loved ones so they could all join the movement. However accumulating many NEM stakes goes against NEM's principles of fairness and equality, therefore the development team reserves the right to refund you the money if an effort to unfairly accumulate NEM stakes is discovered." it says nothing about opening a second account. it states that you want ME to have the ability to buy a stake FOR a relative... to me that sounds like i should be able to buy a stake for my brother from my acc.. no where does it state that i have to open a second acc? if he opens it for himself then i am not buying it for him.. by buying him a stake he is now interested and will most likely open an acc and help the community! thanks I'm sorry but if you read this a second time you'll see that it does say it: In short - We can't. Multiple buy-in will be possible with multiple accounts. We also want ***you*** to have the ability to buy a NEM stake *FOR* your loved ones so they could all join the movement. However accumulating many NEM stakes goes against NEM's principles of fairness and equality, therefore the development team reserves the right to refund you the money if an effort to unfairly accumulate NEM stakes is discovered.
See the multiple accounts thingy ?
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I think we should brainstorm about how to get a FIAT <-> NEM service going. Any ideas ?
PayPal shuts you down before you can say "new econom... aaaan your shut down.
If you wan't to work with wire transfer you have to go through tons of legal issues.
Physically sending the money takes way to long.
We can start with FIAT <-- BTC --> NEM Yeah, well that's the basics...I sure hope will get that going but going beyond that would be a huge deal. I wonder if we can get some exchange to treat NEM just like bitcoin....
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I think we should brainstorm about how to get a FIAT <-> NEM service going. Any ideas ?
PayPal shuts you down before you can say "new econom... aaaan your shut down.
If you wan't to work with wire transfer you have to go through tons of legal issues.
Physically sending the money takes way to long.
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I'll add a comment to the stakeholderlist. Thanks for providing proof.
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Looks awesome. I like that it's not genuinly golden it just has that golden touch ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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hey it looks really good ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) . fb ... when looking NEM logo and phrases outside of cryptoworld, I started thinking, if that "No Envy" is good statement - or not. It contains kind of double negative, which ofc produces a positive thing, but ... is two negative words good for NEM's outfit for mainstreams? In here, in crypto forums, we all, or almost all, know what that "Envy" refers, but what about the outer world, which has much more people than these forums? No Envy ==> New Egalitarian ? one more sketch / idea for the logo : /img] ... NEM is New Economy Movement ; "new" means it is just to be created, "movement" means that something is the goal of our work, the goal = another economy. So the Economy is the key. What can present this new Economy? Here it is just a simple E. A better one to be defined... (it depends on the goal of the NEM devs and ideologists. Eg. will the egalitarity have an important role also in the future activity and processes or just in the creation. I don't know ... another idea for the logo form ( colors to be defined.... ) : ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FDuYLPF7.png&t=664&c=Nx-L4WkPnCXb-w) There is a logo of a toilet paper company or some company that makes something with paper that looks just like this ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Sorry my bad english(Google Chinese Translation) I don't see my name on the stakeholders lis 2734 Middle of the night I spent five hours deal with the matter please add Thank you
As I said in the other thread. You are there. You need to use the flippin tabs on the bottom to select the right page.
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Sorry my bad english(Google Chinese Translation) ![Embarrassed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/embarrassed.gif) I don't see my name on the stakeholders lis please add Thank you I'm not even gonna look at the list. I bet you are there. Have you seen the tabs on the bottom of that google doc ?
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I see we have a strong German clique here ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Let's go with german speaking clique ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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1. I heard that Nem is different because you're translating the code. I don't think that's innovative. 2. I think POI is a flawed concept. 3. I'm not sure what is meant by "different types of node", maybe someone can enlighten me.
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I added the numbers in the above quite but i did not alter the text. 1. Translation is not the goal here. AFAIK NEM is also going to be built with JAVA so it's not the right word either. I think the goal is to have our own solid codebase and since quite a few things are being changed it's probably better to start over. 2. How so ? (I'm actually interested so plz do answer ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) ) 3. From the dev plan (I thought you read it ?): NEM will have two types of nodes: server nodes and normal nodes. Server nodes will store a full blockchain history. The full blockchain will serve as a public ledger, which will be important in order to preserve blockchain explorer functionality. Server nodes will publish all nodes and also a consolidated snapshot.
Normal nodes will connect to the network and request a consolidated snapshot from the server nodes. This snapshot will contain balance information for all accounts as well information about outstanding orders. Snapshots will be made daily and will include data from all confirmed blocks. After syncing the snapshot, the client will need to sync all blocks that were made after the snapshot up to the current time. After syncing those blocks, the client will be ready to begin interacting with the NEM network. This should minimize the amount of time it takes a fresh client to sync the full blockchain and get online. A snapshot will be generated daily. When a new snapshot is confirmed by the blockchain, a special no-fee snapshot transaction will be sent to a special account. New clients can validate the most recent snapshot by using hash attached to the last transaction sent to the special account. Snapshots will be validated after 1440 confirmations.
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Nice statement! NEM and NXT can perfectly coexist. There is no need for trolling (on one or the other sense)
Yes, but NXT community should realise this. Think they are jealous Quite a few people that are NEM stakeholders are also part of the NXT community in more or less important ways. At first NEM looked like a clone that was going to feed of NXTs success like a parasite. Unfortunately not many took a closer look to see what it really is. I think you can clearly see that 2Kewl hasn't taken much time to do research on NEM and therefore assumed it's just another clone. It's the same with people that hate on Ripple saying how centralized and crappy it is. Some people just take the easy way out and hate everything new that they don't know.
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There is marked double hash but not double name. Why?
In list is 96 double names. zzpin zzpin zxm7001 zxm7001 and so on
upekha has three doubles upekha upekha upekha
superresistant has two doubles, all I am interested ! superresistant superresistant
That was just examples. Everybody can check the rest double names from list!
If this double name was by the book, then it is amazing.
Doubles will be dealt with during auditing.
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Wow.... so original. This doesn't look at all like Nxt's logo. lol
Seriously, save yourselves some time and just copy everything from Nxt.
Everything? ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) I'm a software engineer, what can I do for Nem! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Step 1 - Ctrl+C Step 2 - Ctrl+V Hi 2Kool4Skewl Why don't you ask utopianfuture? Maybe we could need some help. I any case- we need more enthusiastic members like you who are professional and would like to help to make NEM to a highly well known coin. Hi Vladimircook, Nem is a pointless clone currency. It offers no features that Nxt does not already possess. A significant amount of funds have been taken from individuals and they are going to get nothing for it. That is unethical. Have you read the dev plan ? You should have before posting because now you look like an idiot. -Written from scratch -New mechanism for forging called POI -different kinds of nodes Tell me again, how is this a copy of NXT ? These are not "slight" modifications either (sorry Fatih87SK). The current plan sounds like a completely new thing. I own NXT and I'm all for it but to call NEM a Clone of NXT is simply wrong. Next time get your facts right before trying to mock something.
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I don't see my name on the stakeholders list? ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) You are there and there are not issues with your stake. You have to use the tabs on the bottom of the google doc to select the correct page.
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Hi NEM Team There is a problem with the NEM stakeholderlist. I made my payment (see here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=440185.msg5003583#msg5003583) I now just checked the NEM stakeholderlist. Under my entry: 2462 CCrypt There is mentioned "bogus transaction" The transaction was not bogus. The blockchain confirms (6300 confirmations, see below): http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=3000&acc=16430809332940249675Please mark my entry with a "Y". Thanks, CC TRANSACTION : 11918600757800434071 » Timestamp : 07.02.2014 20:46:56 » Block : 6659609809470642884 » Amount : 600 » Fee : 1 » Confirmations : 6341 » Deadline : 1440 » Sender : 16430809332940249675 » Recipient : 14343293611098709683 You posted 15282129323430167748 as id. Obviously it was assumed this is a TXid which leads to TX that only has an amount of 50 NXT. What you posted was bogus. You should have posted 11918600757800434071 instead of 15282129323430167748. I'll add a comment to the stakeholder list that you made a mistake and if your TXID turns out to be unique you'll be cleared.
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hi on your plan thing it says anyone with duplicate names will be removed from stake holder list, however it also says you can claim a stake for a relative.. i did so with my own account so my name is in the list twice but i stated on the comment that it is for my brother?? i dont think i have broken any rules have i??
Unfortunately you have broken the rules. It is correct that you are allowed to claim a second stake but only with a second account. The reson for that is that we don't need investors as much as participants. Every stakeholder should have an account because every stakeholder should participate in the movement. However if your second stake get's removed you will not loose your money. AFAIK worst thing that can happen is being refunded.
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Hello together,
i want to know how i can make a signature of NEM how the other here???
Sorry for the bad english i try to read here but it is hard for me and i think i can so better learn english and yeahhh i have a stake.
I'll go out on a limb here and assume you are german ? Since your english is bad I'll answer in german ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Du musst auf Profil oben im Menü gehen und dort auf Forum und Profil Optionen. Da hast du dann ein größrer Textfeld für deine Singatur. Den HTML-Code für die Signature die viele hier haben suchst du dir am besten aus dem Thread hier raus, blätter einach ein paar seiten zurück ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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consider it for the Fair Trade project How will NEM be related to Fair Trade? The proposed logo looks a lot like the fair trade logo.
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