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2641  Economy / Gambling / Re: Without money, does it still qualify as gambling? on: August 06, 2023, 04:20:12 PM
Gambling without money or anything at stake is not gambling, it's just playing. Gambling requires something to be at stake, and in this case money is the most widely used. We can also gamble by betting on things, and that's something I see a lot in my neighborhood. From the smallest for example with a pack of cigarettes or whatever, as long as there is a reward from their winnings.
That's right, this is the same as trading with a demo account. I wouldn't say trading and gambling are the same, but there are similarities when using a demo account.
it's equally just trying out existing games. what is at stake is not ours but only the loan. and what we win is also not ours. just for the fun of the game. still gambling is a bet, so there is something we have to bet to win or lose. and we can still enjoy the results. use a demo account or play for free that doesn't generate or lose anything of ours, I don't think it's gambling. it's just an experiment of the game.
So perhaps if we just want to have fun, we can use a demo account so there's no risk of losing playing gambling games. I think it makes sense because by using a demo account, we will have a large balance of money and can use big bets so that if it loses, the loss will not take our money. But there is no sensation if we use a demo account because we cannot feel real wins and losses. But it can entertain those of us who don't have much money to play gambling games with big bets. But perhaps, only a few use demo accounts for fun, and the rest prefer to use real money to gamble.
2642  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Anonymity is no longer a benefit of gambling with cryptocurrency. on: August 06, 2023, 03:55:22 PM
Because of KYC verification which is now done by most crypto casino to know the people who gamble on their casino, I think anonymity is no longer a benefit of gambling with cryptocurrency in crypto casino.
Leave the casinos requiring KYC for each of their users as privacy is no longer maintained. The reason we choose their casino to play on the consideration of the anonymity provided to each player will be anonymous. If KYC has been implemented, then they have pushed away every player who wants privacy to be maintained and the next option is to look for another crypto casino that does not enforce KYC even though later every crypto casino operating in the territory of a legal country will implement KYC for reasons of obtaining licenses and so on.
In the future, all casinos will ask their users to do KYC because of government interference. And when that happens, we won't be able to play gambling at crypto casinos without doing KYC. But hopefully, at that time, there will still be casinos that allow their users not to do KYC and don't make KYC an obligation that all gamblers must fulfil. And only gamblers who use the money over the limits set by the casino should do KYC. And we should be grateful that several trusted casinos still do not implement KYC on all of their members, especially members who only play gambling with small money. Hence, the casinos still allow us to play gambling at the casino.
2643  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamble Responsibly on: August 06, 2023, 03:37:24 PM
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When someone starts gambling he doesn't understand or believe that he can get deeply addicted to gambling but he gradually gets deeply addicted.  It is entirely his personal responsibility as no one forced him to do so.  And it is his failure that he cannot control himself.  So he has to take full responsibility for it and he is bound to take it himself.  Because he cannot logically or legally blame anyone for this. so controlling yourself is a big key to deal with everything
Yes, it is his responsibility not to get addicted to gambling. But the problem with all the temptations of gambling, it can make people forget their responsibilities and continue gambling. They initially always try to limit their gambling, but when they get their winnings, they forget about those restrictions and instead think of gambling one last time. But that one loop ended up being several laps, and forgot to stop. We have experienced this several times, and maybe we still have to learn to deal with this and always stay within the restrictions we make so that we can be responsible when playing gambling.
2644  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling should be play with care on: August 06, 2023, 03:16:32 PM
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As they like to say it, gambling is a very expensive form of entertainment

Which is true because aside from getting the money you want if in-case you are lucky on that given day, it's also hard to deny that you will not be entertained that is why people forget sometimes what their boundaries are because of that factor. As always, casino have the advantage because of what is mentioned that is why we should be careful from spending towards this form of entertainment even if we are just chasing for entertainment.
Being careful can keep us aware that, in the end, the casino will win, and we will lose. But we can try to avoid big losses by stopping playing gambling, but unfortunately, only a few gamblers can do this. The rest are those who continue to gamble with the desire to win from the casino. And even if they win but don't stop gambling, that's the same as giving the winning money back to the casino because most of those who continue gambling will experience bigger losses. And when they realized it, it turned out that they had lost a lot of money and lost their winning money at once.

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If we can't afford to do gambling then we should not gamble, if we have only little amount of money then why we need to get the things that beyond our capability? we should learn to stop when we can't do it and if our money is limited we should not do it and we should not spend the money. Gambling is for fun  and also keep in mind that we might lose not all the time we can win.
But still, there must be a desire to gamble because we often see gambling advertisements or accidentally watch videos of streamers playing gambling and winning lots of money. It is normal when we want to gamble with little money. But we have to learn to stop after we feel we have had enough of gambling not to lose much money. And gambling is indeed fun using money, so we must remember we can lose all the money if there are no limits on the use of money.
2645  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why do 90% of Bettors Lose in Sports Betting in the Long-term? on: August 06, 2023, 02:40:51 PM
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Experience will indeed be a good provision in any case including sports betting and so on, but all of that must be learned, especially mistakes in analyzing. And
Another thing that successful sports bettors usually have is strong analytical skills, and don't easily believe any signal until you have done good research.
when it comes to sports betting, there is a huge amount of data that needs to be analyzed in its entirety with great care. To be successful, you must be able to review and interpret historical data, betting odds, injured players and more. Without these skills, it is difficult to succeed in the long term. So each experience must be structured to correct mistakes and improve skills and abilities in analysis.
In sports betting, we really depend on analysis, so we must be able to analyze it well. Do not rely on other people's analysis because it does not improve our analytical skills. By learning to analyze, our ability to analyze will increase because the more we learn, the more we can analyze well. And with the experience we get from the analysis results, it is also useful to improve the ability to analyze it. And don't forget to check the results of your analysis to learn more in case something was missed from your analysis.
2646  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Appropriate percentage of income for gambling on: August 06, 2023, 01:51:03 PM
What percentage of weekly income do you think is right for gambling?
In the past maybe I was quite active in allocating a percentage of my finances for gambling, but not anymore and I only bet very small amounts to just play games. Because more and more I realize that gambling does not have to be taken as a serious option to make it part of the mandatory financial allocation. Out there, people who do have some kind of card game skill still make sense to allocate a financial percentage but if only as a gambler who relatively plays in games based on luck, my advice is that it's better not to do the same thing because the risk of losing is greater than the profit.
That means the amount we use must vary and depend on our income. If we are more concerned with daily needs, maybe we won't use the money for gambling or perhaps we only use a little money like you do so it won't interfere with our finances in a month. But if someone allocates a certain amount of money, that's also okay because maybe they have plans other than gambling. We must remember that our needs in life are different from other people.
2647  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling is not a steady income haven on: August 06, 2023, 01:29:22 PM
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I can be like this because I have experienced a very stupid past when gambling using fiat and that past hit me to make it all like the best teacher to change into more and now I just always try to control myself not to drown in the same problem in past gambling.
I am also sure that I am not the only one who can control myself like this not to think of gambling as income too much and you also usually do this to avoid misleading greed.
My advice would be to always remember the function of gambling in every time you place a bet so that you can always control yourself not to get too engrossed in gambling that will eat up your savings.
Because for me gambling will only remain a place to find entertainment
The past is our best teacher, so we can learn to be better in the future. But unfortunately, not many of us can learn from the past or our experiences and instead experience the same mistakes. We must remember that gambling is not a place to make money but a place to have fun, and if we can win, it is just a bonus for us. In that victory, we may have had the experience of winning a lot of money or a little money, and that experience makes us return to gambling. But the difference is that we have had previous bad experiences that make us more alert and able to control ourselves well.
2648  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Casino Slot Streamers on: August 06, 2023, 12:52:42 PM
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I have always seen poker in a different light, in comparison to other games like slots, it takes actual discipline and some strategy to Excell at poker, there is some strategy on it. Besides, taking online lessons is different from just sitting that see someone play.

In my opinion, Slot streams are rather more about advertisement than entertainment. It is more likely someone would feel like trying the same casino and slot game they have seen on a stream, instead of going for some random option.

At least, while watching poker one can learn, right? There is no much to learn in pure luck bases games.
What you say is true. Indeed, we will not learn much from games based on pure luck and just feel the game. But that's exactly what people expect to get entertainment from playing slots, and they don't like games that are skill based because they might find it hard to learn. But as you said, we can learn by taking online lessons to understand how to play poker well.

And I think we also learn to play poker from streaming shows on Youtube or other sites. But all gambling games require discipline to anticipate losing a lot of money. And while enjoying the gambling game that we play by limiting the use of money.
2649  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How was your first experience with gambling? on: August 06, 2023, 11:52:36 AM
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If unfortunately we humans always learn from the bad, learning is effective with bad experiences, it is always good that we match it once and for all with anything we have to learn in a casino game, there is no worse experience than us. We lose money because it takes us a long time to do it, that's as you say, at first we even want to cry, and then when we go to play we do it in another way, not so crazy, taking more care of the balance because it is known that when we lose everything there is nothing to do, just another deposit and start from scratch with all the work.

These things are what make a player mature quickly, they make him more intuitive and with more desire to do things better so that he doesn't lose a lot, in that sense we always do what we can, even with articles, with the experiences of others. players, with videos, whatever is informative about the game we must learn, this is what we have left, if we learn we will have more experience, we will know how to play and how we can control the money, that is the most important thing, when we have control I think that there money does not earn us much, and we avoid the risk of falling into addiction, we have the situation under control.

Each player has his style to play, in each thing he does it is known that many more things can be done safely and without risking our money, the bad thing is that if you have these experiences that are not so pleasant and the person does not learn anything, because that's where a path of no return from a safe addiction begins.

When I started I felt that I was going to get addicted, but then when you know that you have responsibilities and that you have many people in charge of us, you cannot take those risks because how are you going to respond to those people who depend on you? telling them " I spent everything", that cannot be done, it is not allowed, at least not for me, some people do not care , but I think that this Depends on the level of responsibility that each one of us has.
If when you start, you already feel you will be addicted, you should not continue because usually, the feeling does not lie. And I guess by now you know that you might be "a little" addicted but don't admit it. Many gamblers are such that they still won't admit it even after some say they have a terrible gambling addiction. This is because it is related to self-esteem that other people do not want to put down and still show their self-defense that they are fine.

So when we first play gambling, and it turns out that we get a new and good experience, we want to get that experience again at the next opportunity. But everything will not be the same as what we expect because this is a gamble where we can lose and win, and we might experience losing more than winning. But we don't want to admit it, and instead, we continue to gamble, hoping that one day we can win a lot of money. And our initial gambling experience is different because we play different gambling games too. But one thing for sure is that over time we can become addicted to gambling if we cannot control the gambling game.
2650  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: This time for meme coin? on: August 05, 2023, 04:51:51 PM
Highly risky. Cause memecoin doesn’t need any valid future concept or whitepaper. You wont know anything based on Its fundamental. What you can is just speculation. This year doge shiba pump a lot and pepe memecoin able to made the craze among People. So now Most of memecoin will launch daily and lots of People will buy those as if they'll be million and will be scammed at the end. Thus scammers will scam a big amount from people which is very bad for crypto industry but can't stop anyone from investing their fund, right but we can discuss to teach them to avoid such upcoing memecoins
No one knows whether this is the time for meme coins to increase again or whether meme coins will sink and not have time to increase. Everything can happen amid uncertainty like now, and we can only analyze the existing coins or tokens one by one in the hope of finding hidden gems that can provide big profits. And if it really is a meme coin, we have to look for it because, with so many meme coins nowadays, I doubt it will be easy, especially since so many scammers are ready to take our money if we buy the wrong meme coin. It's better for you to look for other coins that have more potential to rise higher than buying meme coins. But if you still want to invest your money in meme coins, I suggest not using too much money to avoid big losses.
2651  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: What's the best Altcoin for this moment to accumulate right now? on: August 05, 2023, 04:23:14 PM
There are many coins at the top that are really good to accumulate. Those top 10 or even top 20 coins are mostly likely to break their ATHs .

For now, I have a long list of coins that I am planning to buy. Maybe I cannot accumulate all of them but at least I already have my own preferred altcoins to invest.

Ethereum
BNB
Syscoin
Gala

I am planning to accumulate more of these projects. I am not a fan of meme coins so I stay away from them except Dogecoin and maybe Shiba as well. Dogecoin is also one of the coins that I am looking to buy at $0.070.
Indeed, there are many good from 1-10 or 1-100 in cmc, but indeed we have to choose carefully because we don't know what will happen to them in the future, we also have to really monitor the project developer that we are going to buy, because it could be like Luna and FTX, we must have thoroughness in the ecosystem and its development financial management.
For Ethereum, BNB and Gala I understand the potential of these projects, but I just found out that Syscoin is the coin you are going to buy, may I know what is the reason that made you interested in buying Syscoin, this coin is not very popular yet, and there is no in the top 10/20 on cmc, can you give me a reason.
It depends on the money we want to invest. If we don't have a lot of money but can do DCA, maybe choosing coins in the top 10 can be chosen. But if not, we can choose the still cheap coins that are in the top 10, 20, 50, and so on.

Ethereum and BNB are coins that can be used as investments besides Bitcoin (which is a must have as the main investment). But it all depends on your analysis, and don't just follow what people suggest. @OP must be able to find the coin from the analysis results because not all coins suggested by us can provide maximum profit for @OP because we have our own targets.
2652  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Borrow to Buy Bitcoin is Not Advisable.Consider the Factors Before Doing That. on: August 05, 2023, 03:50:35 PM
Borrowing is not actually bad if you can benefit from it in times of emergency, but know that investing is not an urgent condition that needs immediate action. There should be a plan prior to investing, and that includes where to get your funds to invest. So if your plan is to borrow for your capital, that is a very wrong move towards your investment’s success. Before you will receive your profits, you are already pressured to pay the interest so it must be very annoying on the part of the investor. So my advice is to always save before investing. And start investing with a small amount since there’s still no guarantee if your investment will immediately work or you may encounter some losses at first before seeing significant profits.
But in reality, people who borrow money to invest may expect to profit quickly, so they don't consider the risks in detail. And as we know, the bitcoin market often goes up and down, making many people quickly panic. And this can result in them experiencing a loss if they then sell their bitcoins at a low price.

But if they have a mature plan, they can do every step in their plan and won't panic about anything that happens in the market. And the most important thing is that they can repay the loan on time. We recommend not borrowing money to invest in bitcoin, especially if we don't have the money to repay the loan. Investing with enough money is better, and we can routinely make that investment.
2653  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling should be play with care on: August 05, 2023, 03:29:43 PM
Losing in gambling is unavoidable, but we can avoid losing huge amounts of money with good self-control.
therefore gambling is intended for adults and established. Of course, gambling is not a way to seek cheap pleasure. because there is a possibility that we spend all the money in our account to play. Self-control may not only be possessed by adults. but adults may be quicker to think rationally to be able to decide whether to continue the game or have to leave the game.
anyone doesn't want to lose the game, but every gambler must know when to stop playing. no novice gambler is suddenly very good at playing. I'm sure every gambler feels some self-control issues within themselves too.
Therefore, if we cannot accept that gambling is not cheap fun, we don't need to gamble, let alone spend a lot of money because we have the possibility of losing. Anyone can control themselves but not everyone can have long-term control and most people will lose self-control after playing gambling for a certain period of time. That is why we also have to limit how long we play gambling so that we can still control ourselves and prevent losing money. Gamblers who experience some self-control problems should be able to practice their skills so they don't become addicted to gambling. And even though it's hard, they have to keep practicing because it's for their own good too.
2654  Economy / Gambling / Re: Some poker terminologies you may want to know on: August 05, 2023, 02:52:56 PM
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Everyone can play poker, but not everyone can understand and have the skills to process cards to be able to win in a poker game session.
It takes quite a long time if you want to really master the game of poker, and even then you can't really say you are an expert because for every skill or prowess in playing there are other gamblers who are more experienced and more powerful.
But poker terminology like this is definitely understood by poker game experts, it's just that we might be a little lazy if we have to study and understand it because it's a little boring and easier in slot games that don't need understanding and waiting for luck to come to win. Cheesy
That's my point. I don't really understand and don't have the skills to process those cards, so I can't play poker well. I also didn't study hard to have the skills to play poker, especially since few people around me could play poker well. And that's okay because I play slots more often than other gambling games. Maybe one day I will have the desire to learn how to play poker so I can try my skills against other poker players Grin
2655  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can Chat GTP destroy poker on-line gambling??? on: August 05, 2023, 02:04:37 PM
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Which I doubt that casino will allow that kind of advantages, and same with how the gamblers seek for such advantage casino will also look for that same system to counter whatever the kind of edge gamblers may have casino will update their system and not allow that they will be left behind in terms of technological advantages.

Though, in terms of individual actions like live poker games between players, bluff still the best edge of experience gamblers, as they can push their opponents to believe whatever they are trying to lead the game and win the session.
Casinos won't allow it because it could cost the casino a loss. And as long as these methods can negatively impact the casino, the casino will ban them and penalize players who use them and may also block them. And casinos will also update their systems to be able to detect the methods that gamblers will use.

Maybe poker players should be able to rely on their bluffing techniques well so they don't need to use other methods. This is also so they don't get into trouble at the casino and can play poker comfortably.
2656  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling is not a steady income haven on: August 05, 2023, 01:32:57 PM
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If campaign rewards serves as spare money, I mean if these rewards or payment is not a part of the actual budget personally and there's a good sets of limitation from the gambler, I can agree that you may enjoy as long as you are not exceeding or you still in control of your gambling participations. It's a must because it's all starts with simple enjoyment and a mistake that leads you to follow your emotions when your gambling appetite is already upgraded from your usual gambling practices. Though from what I understand the past above stated that he has that strong understanding of how gambling works and he knows his limitation and is capable of stopping before making further damages from his bankroll.
Campaign prizes may be used for gambling funds so you don't need to deposit another amount of money, but you must be able to keep the money from being overused for gambling. I used to have money overuse that led to losing it in gambling which led me to set even more defined boundaries. And indeed, every gambler is required to have a solid understanding of gambling and also know about the limits so that they can stop gambling before getting more losses.

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I applaud you for exercising strong control over your bankroll.  Other gambler would have use their bankroll asap until it is depleted.  Even with the wins, most gambler will withdraw and then redeposit to play gambling the very next day.

Your exercise of bankroll management and time control to play is really inspiring.  Hopefully, many gamblers will take you as an example of how to manage the bankroll effectively and follow your way on how to handle bankroll and the planning.
Nah, I'm still learning and don't have much control. Sometimes I still lose control, so I need to learn more about self-control in gambling. I try not to experience too many defeats because I have felt it before, so I have to keep learning.

You can do it too, I'm sure of it. Everything is possible as long as we really want to do it and are not tempted by the gambling game. Let's keep trying to do it and don't give up if we haven't truly succeeded in becoming responsible and wise gamblers.
2657  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are there real sports bet groups on: August 05, 2023, 01:00:28 PM
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Another way of easy making money, trying to pretend that they are the one who are making the analysis but the truth is they are just buying subscriptions and make a good use of those shared predictions, if the pick wins then they will earn and with a good amount of winning picks or most of the time they will advertise more with the winning side and hide those fail bets, it's unavoidable that it will happen as there are many gamblers who will try to seek some edge to the point that they will resort it to a paying subscriptions and check for some luck that they will be paying for a profitable outcome, but still no assurance.
That's why if people want to subscribe to those betting signals, they have to be able to find groups that can analyze the game. But perhaps the subscription fees are more expensive than groups that only take other people's analysis because they really analyze thoroughly and carefully. And if the group is honest, they will also provide all the results of their analysis to the group members so that the members can see their analytical skills.
2658  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How real?That football players required to bribe before they are allowed to play on: August 05, 2023, 12:30:26 PM
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Things like these can barely vanish forever, even if the current people are found, punished, removed from their positions, and new people are hired in their place, someday in the future, the same thing will start happening again because greed doesn't leave human at all, and it's only some people who can actually control their greed but those who see they have some power and can do certain things, they will barely have any control and they do things like these.

And they don't really care about their country at all, all they care about is their own selves and their bank balance, so they don't think it through that if they reject a good player, that player might go to another country and play from there and become a precious asset for that country which could happen with their own country but only didn't because some scoundrel wanted to get money out of him.
That's because everything is too deep-rooted and done long ago. This can only be done if there is a total overhaul of the association from the bottom to the highest and all are replaced by new employees who are experienced in their respective fields. But even so, there is still an opportunity to do that because corruption and illegal things cannot be eliminated easily.

They only think about how they can get much money from doing that. Even if they can accept talented players, they will also receive prizes not only from the government but also from the community will give something to them. Apart from that, the players who got the chance to play will not forget their services for having chosen them to join the team that defended their country.
2659  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamble Responsibly on: August 05, 2023, 12:05:35 PM
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I have seen many experienced gamblers who are always engrossed in gambling. As with gambling, people naturally enjoy it the most and must be counseled before they become addicted to it. Because a person addicted to gambling always brings something bad because the gambler always wants to get something extra from being engrossed in gambling. So such greed and lust is inside everyone but people have to keep control and be engrossed in gambling then it is possible to win in almost all gambling. And a fully addicted person must be weaned out of gambling or else will continue to face losses all the time.
Before they gamble, they should realize they need responsibility to avoid gambling addiction resulting from playing gambling for a long time. If they can understand it, they will not break it because it could be bad for them, so they must have the self-control to stop themselves from gambling continuously. Those who play gambling get advice to stop gambling, and they should listen to this advice because it is for their own good. Thus, they can prevent gambling addiction that can come from playing gambling. The realization is that getting defeated can make them stop and not take the risk of losing even bigger money.
2660  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: *** Exploring Unique Advertising Opportunities in the Gambling Sector*** on: August 05, 2023, 11:31:51 AM
KYC is not that big of a problem (for me at least) when we talk about ptivacy.

I am not a real gambler, I played poker in my younger days and sometimes I like to play some live Stud Poker (-EV, I know).

What is annoying is that you have the feeling Big Brother watches every spin or call you make.
They decide how much you can spend a day. If you want to spend more then €1000 a month you need to fill in documents. Emails from the governemnt "concerned" about your gambling behaviour if you never gamble and then suddenly decide to play for 8 hours straight during the night for whatever reason..

At least that´s how people experience it here.

And that's something that is really scary, at least for me. Imagine them always knowing how you spend, where you spend, and what to spend. They really 'control' your spending, and even your activities indirectly. I gamble a lot previously, though not as big of a spender compared to most of us here, but there's a certain feeling that I think one day, the tax man will just knock at my door and ask why am I not reporting everything to them. It might even be a reason, sooner or later, for me to get declined in some services but that's just my anxiety kicking.
There are still many of us who also feel the same way as you. Sometimes I also think like you when a tax official comes to my house and shows me a tax report that I have spent a lot of money and have to pay a lot of taxes. The current government is really monitoring all its citizens. However, they need to pay attention to the people who work in the government first because there are still many corruption cases that have not been resolved. And they only arrest people who "don't pay too much tax" compared to the corruptors. But we as ordinary citizens also can't do anything if one day it happens, and we can't defend it either.
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