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2661  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: New board busted? on: January 22, 2016, 10:43:19 PM
Got a new contral board for ant miners S3 install it fire it up and can't connect to it. Had this problem before the new board to. Is it a dud or what? Thanks in advance.

We really can't say without more info.  Where did you get the controller from?  Was it advertised as working?

It is possible board is brick from something such as a firmware update gone bad.  Just depends on what it could be.  We really can't say much from info given.
2662  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Antminer S7 Failed Firmware Update on: January 22, 2016, 10:41:06 PM
I calculated that from my original support ticket on their website it was 53 Days since I had received my miner and it had been 80 Days at the time they claimed I was out of warranty. Even taking into account that the warranty ran from the time of shipping it doesn't take 37 days to ship from anywhere to anywhere else and even 10 days would be a bit iffy.
In the end I got my new controller and my miner is up and running but I will continue to chase this with them but I would imagine that they will just ignore me from now.

Glad to hear you got it working, honestly I would leave it and not waste time on it "continue to chase this with them" will just cause you more trouble if they already decided it's out of warranty. What batch is your miner out of curiosity?

I would take it as a lesson next time just leave firmware alone if working fine.   
2663  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S7 is available at bitmaintech.com with 4.86TH/s, 0.25J/GH on: January 22, 2016, 10:35:11 PM
i ordered both a batch 8 and 2 batch 9's last week.. batch 8 came tuesday.. batch 9 shipped today.

so id say about a weeks worth of hashing

but by now i think its a wash.. just go batch 9

Honestly they should remove bath 8 at this point I think.  I would think they would go to batch 10 or something, only thing I can think of is if they will leave batch 8 as "Shipped out within 5 days with full payment" and just adjust price.

But batch 9 last day should be Feb 5th at latest (at least without compensation).  But that would make you pretty unlucky.  I think Batch 9 is the one most will pick.
2664  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BM1384 Pod Miner plus trade-in/recycling - an interest and feasibility poll on: January 22, 2016, 10:26:04 PM
Hmm. UPS kept reporting it was stuck in St. Louis due to weather.
Anywho - Merry late Xmas! I see I forgot the 4 s1 boards from the 2 s1>s3 miners. If ya want them for buck parts I'll send them with the hosted miners next week. One of the new s7's that is replacing them here has one blade DOA so am seeing if Bitmain will let me send just the 1 dead board in RMA...

Midwest is not the greatest on weather right now.  But I would agree delivery companies seem to love day's they can claim as weather.  Slap a banner on website it gives them reason not to be on time.

Let us know if they end up letting you send just the dead board.  I'm guessing they would want entire miner,  but that would be nice if they let you just do blade.   
2665  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Diff thread Jan 13 to Jan 27 picks are closed! on: January 22, 2016, 10:20:44 PM
Looks like another big Day, we are headed for nearly 20% & over 170 Blocks. Has pulled the run rate out of negative territory and now at just over 1%.

oops just seen that Phil posted this some time ago....


Rich

yeah they just got to 159 blocks with about 2 hours left

Price had a not so great day so far.  Were at 380 per BTC, so not sure if it was more bad news or what.  Coindesk had another story about dev - http://www.coindesk.com/blockstream-ceo-bitcoin-industry-creating-toxic-environment-for-developers/ .  But I cant imagine that being enough to cause the 20+ dollar loss in a day.
2666  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Antminer s7 small farm almost free electricity profitable? on: January 22, 2016, 10:18:08 PM
It's safe to say we can let this thread die look at op's stats:

Date Registered:    January 07, 2016, 01:16:44 PM
Last Active:    January 07, 2016, 02:21:43 PM

But if free electricity efficiency is not most important thing.  It would be the best price per hashing power.  Likely S7 is not the cheapest per hash.
2667  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: New Mining Farm on: January 22, 2016, 10:13:49 PM
i prefer trading. if you got 30k usd? why not use it for trading. and also do research on trading before you enter that field. Cheesy

A surprising amount of people that say i have X to invest, never actually invest.  It happens all the time on someone say's they are going to invest.... then goes silent or decides not to do it.

But right now I think buying looks pretty interesting at sub 400.  If it stabilizes again... could be profit.  And mining or trading no  guarantee of profit.
2668  Economy / Services / Re: [BIT-X.com] Earn Bitcoins by Posting | Signature Campaign on: January 22, 2016, 09:52:35 PM
I see some suggests a weekly payment and some monthly. how about biweekly? (edit: I see blazed already suggested this.)

I don't mind if you switch to a fixed rate. though you'd have a trouble of choosing the right amount of post required. too low or too high and you'll probably see people quitting.

I say keep weekly it is honestly the best way.  Once delays are dealt with it will be good again.   But weekly payment is a bonus compared to bi-weekly and monthly.

Is most everyone stuck with past date on payment? I think that is the issue.
2669  Economy / Services / Re: [BIT-X.com] Earn Bitcoins by Posting | Signature Campaign on: January 22, 2016, 06:37:49 AM

If they will consider a fixed rate, it should be weekly and not monthly. Or just leave it what it is today and besides the rates are modify and now have a post limit unlike before.

Im proud to say that all bit x participants (at least I haven't see one) are not spammer so I don't see any sense why inserting the spam thing here.

Anyways after all the discussions here, how's the payment status now? lol.


I think once we get it all back up and running there will be less asking for change.  I think current is fine it's just the delay's that have people asking change.  As I have said I am happy with how it is, if everyone wanted fixed I don't have issue just hope the 100 limit is what it's based on.  I am someone who pretty much always has more then limit as I love bitcoin and spend way to much time on this site.

But on payments it looks like bot is funded.  But most of campaign is stuck on 1-20 (past date) from what I see though blockchain payments. Hopefully it will be fixed soon then everyone will be happy.  

I think the change question is being caused by these delay's.  Once were back on track with weekly pay all I think will be happy again.
2670  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Should I Buy used or new miners? on: January 22, 2016, 04:35:44 AM
Like hash72 said.

Don't buy any miners. The price is too high, while the difficulty will prevent you from making profit.
Either buy bitcoins directly or don't. Mining is dead.. for over a year now.

Mining is dad for high electricity price users. If your electricity is more than $0.2/kWh, it is better not to mine. Just buy/hold/use bitcoin.

I think your electicity price is more then what most should do.  At 20 cent's I would not mine on it just to high long term.  Only chance is to mine then sell gear pretty quickly.

I would really want 10 cents or less on electricity before attempting to mine.  And that is including all fee's and taxes.

For home miner, if the electricity price is less than 0.05/kwh, it is profitable to mine even after the halving.

It would depend on the miner efficiency I think once having.  No way do I see say like 1T A1's still being profitable at .05 after having, unless there is a huge bump in value of btc.

With gear being so different you can't really make blanket statements like that.
2671  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: New to mining and wanting to start with it. on: January 22, 2016, 04:34:05 AM
Bitcoin is very popular int he netherlands, just look at the amounts off nodes on such a small population. Mining is far less popular in the netherlands. The reason for that is the electricity price is very expensive. Over 20 cents per KW/h i heard.

So make sure if mining is your way to go. You can calculate your income/revenue here:
http://www.coinwarz.com/calculators/bitcoin-mining-calculator

Remember that most asics don't come with PSU's which means you need to add that too on your ROI estimator.

If the electricity price is over 20 us cent/kwh, it is not easy to mine. You will not be profitable after the block reward halving.

It would be a bad idea to even attempt it.  Just find a hosting center if you are wanting to own a miner.  Over 20 cents just cannot compete with others mining.

Its a way to almost guarantee a loss.   So why do it?  There is no reason financially speaking I can think of vs using a hosting center that will be around 1/2 the price of it.
2672  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: where the great mine ??? ... on: January 22, 2016, 04:29:23 AM
i think he want to invest in cloud or buy miners directly, you can try bitmain, they are legit, or invest in hashnest cloud mining, another legit website

At this time avoid all cloud mining except hashnest.   A lot were running on old gear that just is not profitable anymore.   But hashnest has lot's of options you can get a entire miner worth of hash. 

Keep in mind a lot of hashnest ROI can be luck on mining for so long and selling hash at right time.  There is no guarantee on profit.
2673  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: Group Buy! - ANTMINER S7 BATCH 9 - 995 - Ends feb 3rd on: January 22, 2016, 04:24:28 AM
I know I'm a newbie but within 1 day of actually researching mining/cost of equipment you could realize this guy either

A: has no idea what the hell he's doing or
B: Trying to scam uneducated members (who can't be any more dumb than this guy).

Within 2 months in difficulty change (assuming 10% increase every 2 weeks) this miner will no longer produce profit due to the cost of electricity. If continued through the halving coming up you will be grossly in the negative.

I don't know if he just doesn't pick up on how things work here or what but its comical. The fact that the world escrow is never once used and that he's trying to piece out a single S7 for "contracts if needed" doesn't exactly seem like a good group buy option... Good luck with that.

It is a dead idea with the mentioned "21.3 cents per kWh or at least the average. The cost of electricity will be covered by the miner.".   So paying double what any hosting center would charge and going with someone pretty new.   It is not going to work out happy in the end.

OP at over 21 cents you really cannot mine unless you might short period and sell gear.  That is your only chance at profit, you cant run long term with a S7 on that and be profitable.
2674  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [ANN] HashCoins - Cryptocurrency Mining Hardware Manufacturer on: January 22, 2016, 04:20:12 AM
believe it or not, my triton miner pre order (yes, I was a very naive mining noob back in early 2014) that turned into a 48mh 1 year scrypt cloudminer has done very well actually .
but from the sound of this semi-dead thread, I must be really lucky. Needless to say, I dont think I'll re-up   lol

I don't see that being a happy ending though.  Did you not pay a good amount for that if I remember right?  Also being late and going cloud is not great as you have no miner, and really have no idea if true miner is running if just paying part of your payments back acting like miner.

You did lose money on this deal correct?
2675  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Review] Avalon 6 Miner - Winter Mining - Notlist3d - Also FAQ and Help on: January 22, 2016, 04:08:05 AM
I think the Wiki states that the MM firmware was updated to tell the machine to "Blink Red" if the voltage is to high, essentially not start up if higher than 12.8v.

I do not read it as 12.8v is a normal range.

Having said that, I can see how it could be confusing.

The big thing is to make sure others following thread see this and hopefully don't push it quite as hard.  As per - http://www.blockc.co/collections/bitcoin-miners-shop-avalon-blockc-co/products/avalon6-bitcoin-miner

PSU Requirements:
12V DC ±0.2V, 1100 Watts minimum PSU output (use high-quality cables)
* 1200+ Watts recommended. System draws approximately 1000 Watts.

So others if you are pushing them on voltage be careful as this can happen.  If others are pushing it this hard it's highly suggested to back it down.
2676  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Review] Avalon 6 Miner - Winter Mining - Notlist3d - Also FAQ and Help on: January 21, 2016, 10:44:07 PM
@philipma1957 do you see or know any negative impact if it's undervolted to 11.7v in the GUI in the long run? Or should I just leave it at 12v stock to be safe?
 


11.7 in the gui as per wiki is lower hashrate

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Avalon6

PSU requirements:
    Minimum 1100W output, recommend to use high-quality PSU for server
with more than 1200W output and high quality power cable.
    Input voltage no lower than 11.7V and no higher than 12.2V (numbers
take from the controller)
   Lower voltage leads to lower hashrate and higher voltage leads to
possible device burning down.


    NOTICE: Poor quality cable may result in low voltage.

So I have 1 dead board due to my high volts setting based on my misread of this



2015-11-24
Version 601511-f4f59c70
Update Core test check rules
Update Input voltage check rules (Input voltage should not >= 12.8V)
Fix result when run test scripts


I thought this meant gui needed to be under 12.8volts.  and I never was higher then 12.7 volts in gui.  

I did set my finksy/j4bberwock at high setting which was 12.73 volts to 12.83 volts  from the psu

and 12.4 to 12.7 volts in the gui

I also did a test back in Nov with my meanwell set at 13 volts  from the psu resulting in 12.7 volts in the gui.

So  because my eyes picked up the  (Input voltage should not >+12.8V)

I thought it meant the gui needed too  be under the 12.8

Still waiting for an rma reply on this.

Please let us know how it turns out on RMA will be interesting to see what they do.  BlockC has been great as far as support if needed, and Ehash was as well.

Guess we will see how much of stickler they are on warranty - http://www.blockc.co/pages/warranty-agreement .  The "power conditions" on 3 are where they possibly have an out if they choose to take it.

That being said I do hope they take care of you.
2677  Economy / Services / Re: [BIT-X.com] Earn Bitcoins by Posting | Signature Campaign on: January 21, 2016, 10:30:29 PM
I like weekly pay out.  As far as fixed or not I'm not to worried.  I focus on good post's and not amount.   I would hope the fixed keeps the 100 post payment in mind.  If it paid for 100 posts I am happy.   And that is from someone who normally is on a lot and has far more then 100.

I think fixed weekly would be best if we go to fixed.  Which I think most would be ok with fixed.   Only problem I see is you need to do fixed with X amount of posts per week or something.  If you don't there are some inactive that would make the fixed and have a few posts.

I also don't have a problem with weekly payments based on number of posts with a limit like we have now.  The limit stops spam, so I do see a reason for limit.
2678  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Review] Avalon 6 Miner - Winter Mining - Notlist3d - Also FAQ and Help on: January 21, 2016, 09:01:11 AM
If you compare price/quality ratio, would you prefer Avalon6 over Bitmain S7?

I will admit to owning both.  I think each have different attributes that might make them better for some situations.   I see sound and voltage as two things that might make some decide.

If you are going to put it in a area you use the Avalon 6 is much quieter.  I slept with it in my room for some of testing, it was not a issue for me.  S7 is a louder machine stock.  Yes you can do mod's that are out there and use certain material or builds to quiet it.   But if sound is a issue Avalon 6 is the easier one.

110/120 if you are living on Avalon 6 I think is easier due to the amount of ATX psu's that will run with it and only needing 4 PCIe cables.  S7 the recommended psu is not going be to running on 110/120.  If you have 220/240 it really opens the door to a lot of great server PSU's that can do 10 PCIe without spending 400 dollars on a EVGA 1600 on ATX.   (And I don't like using different PSU's some have no issue with it).

So those are things to consider.  What will likely be the deciding factor is price in a lot of cases.  And the S7 design pricing seems to be it's biggest plus which I admit is a big factor.  And that is a ever changing thing that the anwser will change.
2679  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Help me troubleshoot my new Antminer S7 on: January 21, 2016, 04:07:52 AM
Just to make sure on network if you log into miner.  Then click network, then diagnostics and it should have bitmain's site is it successful when it tries to ping?
2680  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Best bitcoin wallet? on: January 20, 2016, 11:39:10 PM
so, that private key is my second password?

I suggest re-reading the link above - https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Private_key

Private key is like the golden ticket to your holdings.  If someone has you private key they can import into wallet and access your bitcoins.   So this is why back up being secure is so important.
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