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2661  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Manny Pacquiao vs Errol Spence Jr - August 21 on: August 11, 2021, 08:39:15 AM
I do hope that Pacquiao will not fall for this so called 'replacement curse'.

He is already a veteran of this sports so for sure him and his team will prepare for any eventually against Ugas. Yordenis is one lucky guy though, not sure if there will be some adjustments are far as purse is concern, but it's going to be a honor to fight a legendary boxer of our generation. Spence really needs to cancel the fight and get the operation done of him ASAP.

Manny Pacquiao first became popular in the US when he beat Ledwaba on a spectacular display of skills as a substitute/replacement opponent for the latter. Manny was unknown at that time so Ledwada was short of time studying the southpaw Pacman and thus lost that fight which lead to the downfall of his career, so i think Manny is very well aware of this replacement curse.

For sure there are adjustments on the purse that Ugas will receive as he will be fighting the legend and also some sort of luring him to take the fight.

IMO, this would be an easy fight for Manny, easier than a fight with Mikey Garcia.
2662  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Manny Pacquiao vs Errol Spence Jr - August 21 on: August 10, 2021, 09:13:02 PM
Guys, the Manny Pacquiao Public Information page has posted that the fight that Spence Jr. cannot fight next week. It's just a fresh news so maybe we'll see the articles publishing this huge news later on.
Page: https://www.facebook.com/MannyPacquiaoPublicInformation/posts/363153928603094
Dont know if this is a legit one or not but checking out Manny's Facebook profile then there are lots who had been asking about the cancellation of the said fight.
https://www.facebook.com/MannyPacquiao

If this is true then its just unfortunate for the fans on waiting up for some time for a postponed event.Dont know if those are just honest reason or just simply wouldnt like
for Spence to fight and make out some alibis?
It is legitimate and true, it's now on Yahoo sports. And just search it again on the web and  you'll see a lot of news outlet has posted it already. We've waited for so long on this match and with some issues on its way but I guess that unfortunate things and news do really come.
If we are disappointed, how much more with Manny Pacquaio's disappointment.
That’s a valid reason anyway, so incidents like this can really happen and Manny will understand this. There’s no need to disappoint since Manny will still fight another Boxer, and I think same schedule for this one I’m not sure though if Manny will fight another great boxer. Very unfortunate to those who already buy their tickets hoping for a great match, let’s pray Errol for a fast recovery.

What a turn of events. Some Pacman haters out there want to see Errol Spence retire Manny from boxing but in just a blink of an eye, everything is gone lol. Don't know if this reason is enough to cancel the matchup but nevertheless, we still see Manny fighting this August 21 since Ugas will replace Errol.

Errol Spence just deprives Manny of his greatness in this supposed fight. Win or lose, Manny will be praised for taking the Spence fight as the odds is against him. This is the biggest fight of Errol Spence so he should take care of himself all the time.

2663  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Casimero vs Rigondeaux this August 14, 2021 on: August 10, 2021, 12:22:41 PM

I've checked the seat slots and there are lots of vacant seats as I'm typing this. Or maybe the venue has a limited capacity? Sales aren't that impressive then there's a lack of marketing of the fight. The ticket sales are even considered as cheap with just playing around $50 - $200.

Out of curiosity, I've tried looking for the sales on Pay-Per-View but found no data about it.

4 days to go before the fight, not even a glimpse that sports betting sites, especially crypto betting sites, will list it. But don't lose hope, there are still a few days more.

This fight is not so popular to the Vegas gamblers, that is why when the idea of Donaire replacing Rigo as the opponent of Casimero, they (promoters) took it because that time they already notice that fans are not buying the Casimero vs Rigo fight but unfortunate Donaire backs out of that fight because of some personal issues.

Let us just wait for a few days because I'm sure bookies will cover this one, just like the previous fight where they put the odds for Casimero two days before fight night.  
2664  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: August 09, 2021, 07:43:21 PM
We have an update about PBA resumption, they'll resume this month at Pampanga.
~snip~
Betting continues, after the fight of Spenvs vs Pacquiao, we can continue the betting.

This is a good news for the fans.

I'm not being pessimistic but I do hope that the COVID situation in our country improves during that time so that their plan will realize.

Here in our place, the quarantine status was reverted to MECQ because of the rising cases but as far as I can see, it worsens because the authorities have not implemented the protocols for MECQ like suspending the public transport so there is a high chance that we will be going to ECQ after this week and that's what I'm hoping will not happen to Pampanga.
2665  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Manny Pacquiao vs Errol Spence Jr - August 21 on: August 09, 2021, 11:42:25 AM
Yeah, but I would say that it was not a 100% Spence during the Garcia fight. Nevertheless even if not 100%, he beat a former champion, so that tells how good or superior Spence it. So now that the accident was no issue, for sure he is more motivated now to beat the legend. However, it will not be an easy task because Manny has advantage on experience and Spence will know now how good Manny is, even others say he is way past his prime already.

For me, that fight with Danny Garcia was some sort of shrugging the rust off him and people wanted to see how he would perform after that car crash. Though he was not a hundred percent on that fight IMO, that performance is good enough but coming to this fight with Manny, he should improve and not rely solely on his youth and size.

The fight is getting closer but not much movement of the odds yet.
2666  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs Dmitry Bivol on: August 08, 2021, 12:52:39 PM
I think this fight is already cancelled.

And I agree with Reynoso, it's better for Canelo to unify all the belts in 168, not sure who is the last man to do it, but it will be the best interest for Canelo. If he fights Caleb Plant and then his belt, then he can go as high as light heavy weight again. But not sure if there will be money on that division because Bivol or Beterviev is not a US household name. Maybe he can defend his belt against David Benavidez who will be fighting against Uzcategui on Aug 28.

Lol, they have second thoughts on fighting Bivol because of weight issue. Canelo is hesitant to move up in weight as LHW is not his comfort zone.

Fighting Plant would fulfill their goal of unifying his current division but as per Plant statement, he is not willing to be the guy to make Canelo the undisputed champion of the Super Middleweight division  Grin.

Anyways, this speculated fight may not happen this September 18 because of different issues so i will be locking this one and reopen if the negotiations start once again.
2667  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: August 08, 2021, 09:51:57 AM
There's no decision for the final venue yet but more importantly, IATF allowed them to resumed on GCQ and MGCQ areas.

The ECQ will only last until the 20th. I don't see why PBA should give another effort to continue on the province. It's just over a week more then PBA will again resume at their usual arena. No hassle, no extra cost, no need to comply again with new protocols on the province and so. If they will start to pack up and fix everything, it might take almost a week or 3-4 days at least a minimum. Only a few days more and ECQ will be lifted here.
I've heard that it's going to be in Batangas for which the news before that someone posted a banner that they're welcoming PBA. But that was long time ago.
Yeah, there's no announcement yet. I understand that they have to cope up with such schedule and such delays might affect the entire schedule of the league and that's probably why they're pushing to find a venue even if this ECQ is just two weeks.

I have read in the news that the venue now that they seriously consider is Pampanga is it is MGCQ there.

wherever they will holding the bubble, I'm just glad that they are considering the resumption of PBA. Too much bad news these days and news like this will at least give some relief to people who are just staying at home since it's ECQ in some parts of the country.

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PBA in Pampanga
Now, the PBA hierarchy is considering other provinces to host its game, including Pampanga, which hosted the Philippine Cup last year under a full bubble setup.

Pampanga is currently under MGCQ.
2668  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: (Olympics Boxing) Carlo Paalam vs Galal Yafai (Fight for Gold Medal) on: August 07, 2021, 10:46:18 PM

paalam having the silver medal still is a great achievement though. boxing is not easy so congrats to paalam. if he'd pursue a boxing career to pro, it be interesting to watch his career.

Lost my bet on him but it's okay since I've already that it is one tough fight for him for the gold medal. Even if it is Silver, still a big achievement for Paalam.

He is 23 years old now, going pro I think it's a little bit for him to get the ranking in pro boxing so I think he will stick to the amateur league where he got his fortune. In the amateur, he will get a monthly salary from the government while if he decided to be a pro boxer, your future is dependent on your manager and promoter, but we will wait and see what his decision will be.
2669  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: (Olympics Boxing) Carlo Paalam vs Galal Yafai (Fight for Gold Medal) on: August 07, 2021, 12:00:20 AM
What I am trying to say is that don't use Paalam's fight with Shakhobidin Zoirov to decide the outcome of his fight with Galai Yafai.

Yup, it's unwise if you base your bet for Paalam on his previous fight with Zoirov because that fight was halted due to cuts.

As I've said in my above post, I'm betting for Carlo Paalam because of his talent not because he is my compatriot  Smiley.

Win or lose, Paalam will go home a millionaire, another "from rags to riches" story that usually happens to most of the Filipino boxers including Manny Pacquiao.
2670  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: (Olympics Boxing) Carlo Paalam vs Galal Yafai (Fight for Gold Medal) on: August 06, 2021, 10:14:34 PM
Wow, this is an interesting platform they are supported the Olympic games feel sad I didn't see this immediately just trying to bet one of our representatives in my country which is Carlo Paalam and he owns a medal even though it's not a gold medal still it's a support and entertainment to fellow Filipino fighting in the Olympics. Yafai so too much aggressive on their match still deserve to win congrats to all winners of the Olympics and the bettors.

It's not Silver either lol. The fight will be held this afternoon, 2 PM Philippine time to be exact. Have not seen the whole fight of Yafai but IMO, this is very winnable by Carlo Paalam because this guy has talent. He is quick and not easy to hit which is a very important factor in the Olympic style of boxing.



Have already place my bet here not because Carlo is my compatriot but the possibility of winning is too high because of his talent.
2671  Economy / Gambling discussion / [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs Caleb Plant on: August 06, 2021, 09:03:58 AM

ctto

Date: November 6, 2021
Venue: TBA

As the planned unification fight with Caleb Plant fails to materialize, Eddie Hearns wants Canelo to fight Bivol this 18th of September for the latter's Light Heavyweight title. There are rumors that this could be on a catchweight between 168 and 175 lbs. Both fighters will be moving on their weights for the fight so I think Canelo would be having trouble on this fight, what do you think guys?

 
https://www.boxingnews24.com/2021/08/hearn-wants-canelo-vs-bivol-to-be-announced-worried-about-cutoff-for-sept-18th/

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Saul Alvarez v Caleb Plant: Title unification bout set for Las Vegas in November

https://www.bbc.com/sport/boxing/58276967
2672  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament on: August 05, 2021, 09:34:19 PM
^^ Chase down blocked,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gc97zwVgzfk

It will be a good show for the finals, although France beat USA, but that doesn't mean anything.

USA has blend so well now, Booker finding his range and so is the two NBA champions, Holiday and Middleton, and of course Kevin Durant as their leader.

USA -11.5 = 1.83
ML = 1.12

Good offensive setup by Slovenia but a better defense that time by France  Smiley, that's the break of the game that cost them the silver medal as the gold belongs to the USA team this time hehe.

Though I worry about the length and defense of Gobert but i do believe that KD and the rest of the team could figure it out how to escape long hands so US -11.5 @1.83 is very attractive AFAIC.
2673  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament on: August 05, 2021, 01:35:17 PM
It was a really close game, but it looks like Doncic had a bad performance during this match, considering that he scored only 5 out of 18 field goals. Anyway, congrats to everyone who bet on France to win this match. So France and the USA are in the final, and I guess the USA will win gold medals again.

That was really close. Betted on Slovenia here, no hard feelings though as I only betted small. More than likely, the odds for USA is very low so don't know if it will be worth to bet on them. Let us see what odds will be given to France by bookies. If you are a risk taker, you can bet on France, who knows for some reason, they will beat USA?  Wink

That block was the highlight of the game, Slovenia could have won that game despite having an injured Luka. This FRANCE vs USA rematch is interesting, I'm sure France will still be the underdog, if we can't trust them to win, I think it's good to gamble on them through the handicap.

Almost regret why I did not take spread by fortunately that block save the day for me lol. Good game though as both teams deserve to be in the Finals, it's just that the breaks of the game went to France.

Team USA is a more dangerous team now in the Finals, not like in the exhibition match so i will be rooting for them whatever the spread.

2674  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament on: August 04, 2021, 09:58:58 PM
My predictions for the semi final games are like this:

USA - Australia
France - Slovenia

I don't think that Australia would be able to resist to USA. Durant would probably be the player of the game again and USA would win it easily.

When it comes to the other game, it's going to be really tough as both of these teams are very powerful. But I see Slovenia as one step ahead. I think that we will watch a very close game but Slovenia will be the winner at the end. I expect another great performance from Doncic and Dragic.
Yes i think so the usa and slovenia are both the favorable to pass but still australia team might cause them problems they are good and passed easily against argentina as for slovenia and france it will be tough for both but i will go with slovenia and i have a feeling that they can win even the gold medal.

Team USA, whenever they play they will always be the favorite to win no matter how they played against Australia in the exhibition match. Australia will create some problems for KD and company but i expect US to win but not a lopsided one so my bet is Australia +11.5 @2.02 odds.

In the match between Slovenia and France, IMO the latter should be the favorite on this match but the bookies see the opposite maybe because Slovenia is on the roll with Luka on fire but still I'm putting my bet on France ML.
2675  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: August 04, 2021, 01:31:52 PM
Let's wait for further updates, maybe they are planning to look for another locations so they can resume the season.
Covid-19 restrictions are really a problem as the implementation is for everyone in a certain area.

The commissioner has said that they are waiting for IATF's approval to transfer the venue where the quarantine status is not strict. Batangas is the location of choice and they are planning to do a mini-bubble setup.

Personally, I think it's better to halt the season for now as this Delta variant is not a joke and also to give peace of mind to the players whose families are left at home. I think this would only last a month and this will be downgraded again to MGCQ and they can resume playing by that time.
2676  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Manny Pacquiao vs Errol Spence Jr - August 21 on: August 03, 2021, 10:02:17 PM
I do not see any compelling reasons for the change in odds that we are seeing now. I think this is only due to the fact that the bookmakers are forced to balance the bets that they have already accepted (apparently most of the bets are placed on Pacquiao). I am more and more inclined to think that it is worth betting on Spence  Smiley

Seeing Manny Pacquiao train in the gym, you will likely place your bet on him as his speed and power have not abandoned him all this time, that may be the reason for the change in odds in his favor. If you are inclined on placing your bet on Spence (just like me  Smiley) just wait till it's only 3 days to go before the fight as I'm sure that the odds for Spence to win will increase and there will be more markets at that time. 
2677  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament on: August 03, 2021, 12:41:52 PM
In fact, Spain finished the first quarter leading 21-19. They finished the first half in a 43-43 draw. Then, Kevin Durant's effective play made the difference. Even though Ricky Rubio scored 38 points by himself, he could not prevent Spain from being eliminated. We can say that the USA won the gold medal in these Olympics.

During the first half of the game, the bigs of Spain were so effective inside the paint but with their age, they can't endure the 40 minutes of play that is why in the second half, the US squad bounce back.

I think most of the users here have won their bets, may it be they are for the US or Spain as the former has covered the spread of -12.5.

Looking ahead on their game in the semi-finals against Australia or Argentina which both have defeated the US in the Vegas exhibition, I think they will have some trouble with Australia but I think the confidence of the US players are high at the moment so I think they can overcome this hurdle and go to the Finals as expected of them.
2678  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Nesthy Petecio vs Irie Sena Olympic Gold Match on: August 03, 2021, 11:22:48 AM
Nesthy Petecio lost despite being the favorites to won the fight, I hope you guys did not put your bet on her so you'll not experience the loss. Anyway, it's still a good achievement for her, she is the first woman boxer who won a Silver or a medal in the olympcis. Congratulations to him, maybe better luck next time.

Yeah, a silver medal is already a big achievement for Petecio and the whole nation is so proud of her for that. Irie Sena is just hard to beat, more determined to win the gold in front of her people and we must admit that. Also, that was my basis before putting my bet on Sena. It's not that I'm not patriotic, I'm just being practical as my gut tells me that the Japanese had the upper hand on this match. I would be very happy if Petecio has won the match as that's also what I'm praying.



Time to lock the thread now and as usual thanks to all who have shared their brilliant speculations about the fight, until next.

2679  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tokyo 2020 Men's Olympics Basketball Tournament on: August 02, 2021, 09:57:22 PM
So attractive.

From sportsbet.io



Attractive indeed but not gonna bet on that one as I'm a big fan of the US basketball team and I expect them to win this one.

I don't expect a blowout win from them so I'm betting for Spain with HC, hope this will works hehe.

2680  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Nesthy Petecio vs Irie Sena Olympic Gold Match on: August 02, 2021, 01:17:54 PM
The odds were quite odd hehe. Irie is also playing on her turf so that should at least give her an edge over Nesthy. Perhaps the bookies looked into their previous opponents they beat before the Finals. It seems the Filipina boxer had the tougher competition so they had her as the favorite.

Yeah, this is one of the reasons why I created this thread because Irie will be playing in her home country and she is ahead on their head to head with Petecio. Maybe you are, the bookies put emphasis on their previous opponents going into the Finals as Petecio's road to the gold medal fight was a tough one.
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