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2661  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Udh ada btc sekitar 0.008-0.01 gan enaknya buat apa? newbi on: March 28, 2017, 12:49:11 PM
jadi ane mantan seorang gambling  Cry . dulu smpet jaya tapi sekarang ane malah bnyk hutang gan. dan sisa btc ane ada sekitar segitu. enaknya itu uterin dmna?. btw itu gajian dari gambling juga  Grin . mohon bimbinganya gan. thanks
Disimpan gan trus kalo dah agak banyak bisa buat modal trading sperti di vip,bitfinex,polo dlsb...atau jika mau agan bisa investasi di berbagai situs investasi terpercaya seperti cloudmining yang bukan abal2..atau invest di ico ico baru kan lumayan deposit nya bisa berbunga di bulan2 yang akan datang...

betul, saran ane juga sih ngumpulin lagi gan. menurut ane masih kecil kalo modal segitu buat trading.
tapi kalo untuk opit kecil2an sih nggak apa apa. cuma saja kalo modalnya lebih besar, opit nya juga sedikit cepat.

dan sama dengan yg lainnya, saran ane jg jgn dipake gambling gan. tadinya pengen untung pasti malah buntung entar.
kalo trading jg hati2 sih bisa buntung jg, cuma bedanya kalo gambling 100% mengandalkan keberuntungan, kalo trading 30% keberuntungan, 49% ketelitian dan kejelian, 1% insting.  Grin Grin

Jika masih punya uang lebih mending di hold dulu, harganya semakin turun sayang kalau dilepas, saya pikir tidak ada cara lain selain mencoba depo di poloniex, tidak ada cara tercepat kecuali judi dan berdagang, investasi segitu tidak ada apa2nya. Tidak perlu gambling aktif juga coba freeroll2 dan taruhan skor yang satu pertandingan.
2662  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Monetizing Blog&Video Dengan Ads, Dan Membangun Kualitas Untuk Bounty Campaign. on: March 27, 2017, 01:44:25 PM
mau numpang sharing ni gan , aplikasi yang ringan buat desain website dan mudah itu apa ya gan ,
nih website ane . www.news-crypto.com
ane ngerasa desainnya kurang
trus kalo emang mau kerja sama . kita cantumkan aja website ada link youtube untuk saling subcribe ... kalo subcribe nya banyak . ya kemungkinan cepat diterima yang ikutan campaign .. itu aja menurut ane agan-agan

Templatenya sudah bagus, namun sebaiknya sebelum trafik stabil jangan pasang pernak pernik dulu-polosan, orang bisa tertarik karena kekuatan konten dan interaksi(friendly), penggunaan adfly prefer buat situs yang khusus download2 atau bisa bikin reader bete, ada kesalahan di h2,h3, yang ganti2 harusnya input konten, daripada adsensecamp lebih baik coinroll atau anonymous (saran jangan iklan2an dulu), lebih bagus pasang widget follower fokus ke trafik, sayang kan domainnya dah TLD jika kontentnya cuma kumpulan bounty.

Untuk subscriber bisa pakai jasa, karena subscriber tidak punya tools audit.
2663  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: March 27, 2017, 12:23:36 PM
haha menurut saya sih bisa, kemaren tanggal 2 atau 3 maret tembus 17,5 jutaan kalo ngga salah .. emang keren

Gejolak muncul setelah tanggal 11 bro, dibawah itu orang lagi euphoria menyambut decision sec dengan penuh spekulasi makanya naik tinggi.
Setelah keputusan negatif, orang2 masih memantapkan diri untuk stabil di 16 juta.
Beberapa hari kemudian kestabilan mulai goyang karena rumor garpu keras membelah penambang bloksize btc menjadi dua bagian, kalau saya loyalis saya akan tetap setia dengan bitcoincore, tapi kalau market terguncang hebat mau tidak mau saya harus adaptasi lagi.
2664  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Info Signature Campaign | Last Update : 26 Maret 2017 on: March 27, 2017, 12:01:33 PM
Itu buat yang punya account di site gambling dia, jadi mereka bisa kayak cashback 30% dari total wager mereka. Cmiiw
The main idea is to attract dice players who will get +30% boost of their diceback/rakeback. If they are high wagering players, their benefits could be huge.
Rates are at this levels as this is what we could afford at the moment without put users in delusion.

Benefit yang sesungguhnya ditawarkan dalam permainan judi, 30% dicebak/rakeback mungkin semacam booster atau peluang keuntungan untuk setiap wager atau cashback seperti pendapat agan. Saya pikir teman2 yang biasa posting di thread gambling ikutan saja karena debuni cukup aktif dan tentunya galau karena interest perserta kurang (50 slot), justru karena dia galau rate mungkin akan terus naik. Rp.100 ribu sebulan(full member) agak parah juga, ini satu level dengan dengan secondstrade dan why future, syaratnya ketinggian dan post lokal tidak dihitung. Untuk pertimbangan coba baca lagi kata yang dibold yah, semoga terbantu.
2665  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: MLM berkedok crypto currency on: March 27, 2017, 11:32:10 AM
Ada satu fenomena menarik saat ini menurut saya dimana strategi hyip dan mlm sudah meninggalkan pola yang usang, kamuflase mereka sekarang adalah cryptocurrency ++, maksudnya digandeng dengan metode sosial media, trading, penjualan produk2 hosting, dan tentunya revenue adpacks. Jadi tidak pure makan orang. Bisnis seperti ini bisa survive karena pendapatan tidak satu arah (menurut saya).

Seperti futurenet awalnya mereka hanya menerapkan ponzi + sosial media yang dibayar, setahun kemudian mereka membuat platform yang berbeda + adpacks, setahun kemudian lagi mereka membuka earning profit hosting dan toko online, dan tahun ini mereka mau ngadakan ICO market untuk futurocoin, hanya masalah waktu saja untuk launch announcement disini(mungkin).

Saya coba gabung kemarin karena tampilannya ternyata premium menggunakan google adsense, tidak masalah buat saya karena tidak invest apa2, ini mirip thecryptochat + facebook+mpa+bukalapak+market coin developer. Daripada kita hanya membahas kulit luar, mungkin saya dengan senang hati mereview pengalaman HYIP ini dari nol.
2666  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Day trading on: March 26, 2017, 03:32:54 PM
In altcoin trading,is day trading profitable or trading on a long term basis?
When talking about the long term basis i choose ico where there are chance that ico can pump when it launch in the market exchange short term of trading can be profitable too depends on the potencial of the altcoin that you choose.

how many ICOs have you invested in so far and how much of your money did you lose and how much profit did you make?

in my experience based on what i have seen so far, it is best that you wait till release and then join in the trading part rather than investing in the ICO that can go very wrong at any moment. and the number of scams that has happened so far is not small either.

Buying a few shares of ICO should use the strategy of "feed all the sheep", always set the pattern set aside profits every day in trading and focus on purchasing coins that you want, do not need to invest a lot of money to buy a lot of coin stocks, unless we see the potential for that coin itself from an increasing number of communities and the reaction of this forum.

Don't be too blindly because this always requires a detailed analysis and prediction, if you are already familiar and experienced with successful & unsuccessful projects, no other word other than addiction.
2667  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why you should buy bitcoins NOW on: March 26, 2017, 03:00:32 PM
It seems that this problem continues to impress imposed, I choose to sell some bitcoin to reduce losses, and set aside for possible purchase of BTU in percent. For ordinary community user like me the most appropriate step is to play safe by always waiting momentum that might occur. I myself have sold a lot of bitcoin since this issue continues to sticking and becoming viral.
2668  Other / Off-topic / Re: What Are Your Thoughts On Vegans? Or Going Vegan ? on: March 25, 2017, 10:31:52 AM
What Are Your Thoughts On Vegans? Or Going Vegan ?

Do you have concerns about animal abuse by eating meat or using animal products?

Do you feel strongly that it is your right to eat meat?
I strongly believe that I will remain a non-vegan only and will never become a pure vegan in my entire life. I have see few vegan people struggling with their health and doctors have suggested them to start eating non-veg, at least egg. Because human body needs animal protein. It can't survive purely on veg food.

Most vegans still eat eggs to meet their protein. I salute the people who are actually vegetarian, I don't know what he eats for energy and nutrient requirements as a substitute for meat benefits. I would be very weak if only eat rice and vegetables, even fruits. I don't like intake of vitamin injection of fluids or substances, I reduce food was taking too much use of chemicals and preservatives.
2669  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why not creating BTU as altcoin ? on: March 25, 2017, 10:06:11 AM
What is the reason that Bitcoin unlimited members don't creating their own Altcoin (BTU) ?
Then there wouldn't be a hardfork !

Have you ever wondered what you would do if you have the qualities and potential to make bitcoin evolution as what is thought by roger ver and Jihan wu?

I will also do the same thing if it gets a lot of support from the miners, no matter what the price will be down for a while because eventually price will find a stable point. evolution and revolution requires sacrifice from the main system. altcoin will not establish a new concept of bitcoin. If you think bitcoin will be exhausted and abandoned by user, then the mind must begin with yourself. I'll stick with bitcoin whatever the circumstances, developer also will not give up so easily leave you.
2670  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: did you place all your funds into bitcoin? on: March 25, 2017, 09:19:16 AM
No, we shouldn't do that. Although bitcoin have a lot of potential, but the short term fluctuation risk shouldn't be ignored. Especially for the new comers, they cannot stand this kind of loss in their accounts. If you are not comfortable with this kind of loss, I suggest you to buy small amount. Current its hottest debate is around the BU and Core. Bitcoin may fork in the near future.  Bitcoin is dumped in recent days.

I think, soon bitcoin maybe 800$ and down ...  For leading crypto currency, bitcoin serves only as an intermediary ... ETH, DASH can now be bought for real money, bypassing the purchase of bitcoin ...  Bitcoin - widely advertised bubble

Many people are optimistic about bitcoin prices continue to fall and also the issue of hard fork. Instead, I simply invest more when prices fall, only matter of time until Bitcoin down at the lowest point this year, I would buy as much as possible.

Do you ever wonder when prices fall will bring more types of businesses that use bitcoin including a signature campaign ?

Let fluctuations discovered the pattern perfectly, for those who are not familiar with trading, they will be greatly helped by it. the higher price of bitcoin only will make fewer business opportunities, bitcoin currency is decentralized and not only played by experts. The main thing is volume of quantity rather than quality.
2671  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do you manage ur emotions? on: March 24, 2017, 02:02:13 PM
I'm having hard time to manage my emotions for everything that is happening in my life. And in trading, most of the time I feel frustrated.

Especially when I'm seeing the price of bitcoin is falling that is hurting me that starts me to realize that it's better rather than bitcoin doesn't have value at all.

I just go with the flow and take a deep breath.


I feel frustrate easily to when i see some dumps happen in the time of my monitoring and sometimes im lossing some money with that since i can't truly hold my feelings since im kinda afraid of dead dumps who mostly happens on altcoins in market trades, But if we talk about gambling since we are in gambling discussion i think i can with hold my patience in that since im not totally a sane sick gamblers who mostly do some wild bets on their game time.

I've experienced a great loss to the XEM and EDRcoin, and then I immediately ran around the field one full night wearing only panties. Then I spilled resentment and emotions on sports betting and bitcoin poker.  I really do not get into trading account for three full days. But at least for the future, I understand and more detail to find coins information that I want to buy. This is not a sad story, I just advise traders to have other income as a companion to main business, or we would cry and laugh like crazy.
2672  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Where I can learn Bitcoin Trading? on: March 24, 2017, 01:29:32 PM
There are many tutorials and videos available on youtube for beginners which will teach you the basics of bitcoin trading and after watching multiple videos it will surely add value to your knowledge related to trading and you can start with a small amount and start gaining a practical experience.
In fact, bitcointalk.org I think is enough for you to know everything about in bitcoin, trading, and others because it is very informative. And youtube is also helpful as stated above mentioned.

In youtube we can understand step-by-step review and trade bittrex poloniex, and through bitcointalk we can follow the progress development in altcoin announcement. Bitcoin trade isn't complicated, just buy and sell price fluctuations. What is interesting is trading in altcoin because its more challenging. At first I was immediately plunged into poloniex and yobit to see patterns in advance, its not difficult to study directly, but must be at least a deposit in advance.

 "learning by doing not need a lot of theories"

The most important references is to see available supply of coins that we want to buy, we clearly can read the complete information about this in coinmarketcap. Volume of transactions also greatly affects the coin stability.
2673  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: March 23, 2017, 04:54:59 AM
I think as long as you gambling for the right reason which is to have fun and you can control the amount you gamble you will be ok. A little bit of bitcoin used to gamble is not going to make someone go broke or get into trouble so as long as you are responsible about the money you spend.
It seems you are not aware to the fact that no one gamble for fun. It is a sad fact however it is the truth, you can deny it however you want. People get excited when they win and get money, that is the evidence that everyone gamble to win although they hide it through other reason such as having fun
Agreed. It will only be fun if the money to gamble is not yours, meaning someone just gave money to you to gamble and have some fun. But if its your money, then its not fun or enjoyment for you because you want to at least win in the long run. And if you losses, you will feel disappointed and frustrated that you want to play again and try to recover your losses.

No problem for me, I have daily budget to gamble continuously, most people lose because it uses primary funds and often have high emotion to recover funds lost, it's a big mistake.

I believe our luck is not determined by a single day, every day has the same grace. If we lose a lot of money should immediately sign out and move into another profit income, get into gambling back when your emotions are already controlled-effective time is half day and even 24 hours.
2674  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: New Bitcoin Forums - TheBitZone - Pay to post on: March 23, 2017, 04:20:40 AM
I saw some successful forum doesn't put advertising service in hurry as coinzilla etc to focus on traffic, premium ad will come when forum has a lot of traffic and members without a lot of ads that are general. Most people also prefer safe forum, bitzone still without https// and web connections are not secure. Incentive income is also required to attract visitors by showing an active payment continuously.

If one of three problems mentioned above are met, then I would be happy to introduce widely and actively contribute to bitzone, my goal is to participate develop bitcoin community more large and diverse.
2675  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Apa yang terjadi setelah BTC ditolak oleh SEC on: March 23, 2017, 03:35:03 AM
menurut saya walaupun BITCOIN DI TOLAK Oleh SEC, tetpi tidak akan berpengaruh banya pada harga bitcoin,

- Gelombang positif sebelum tanggal 11 maret 2017 (sec decisions) 1btc=Rp. 16.7 juta.
- Gejolak setelah keputusan dikeluarkan turun ke Rp. 14 juta dan naik lagi ke Rp. 16 juta tanggal 13 maret 2017.
- Isu tentang hardfork kembali mencuat setelah penolakan sec dengan alasan prematur dan rawan tidak terkontrol.
- Pencinta aliran Bitcoin unlimited memanfaatkan potensi untuk menjawab semua itu.
- Memang benar harga sideway namun jelas berpengaruh banyak karena saat ini btc=Rp.13.7 juta.


Harga bitcoin sangat dipengaruhi big news, dalam hal ini memunculkan mata rantai baru dari berita sec sebelumnya.
2676  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Bitcoin atau Bitcoin Unlimited on: March 23, 2017, 03:15:53 AM
waduh ini toh yang bikin harga bitcoin kemarin anjlok  Angry
saya sendiri pro terhadap bitcoin core daripada bitcoin unlimited karena bisa-bisa nanti market panic besar jikalau rencana ini bisa terealisasi, sebagai contoh saja ETH sama ETC dulu.

Bukan kemarin lagi, efek anjloknya sangat mateng sampai detik ini. Saya orang awam memilih focus sell beberapa btc dan main di altcoin dulu karena sedang naik daun. Efek dari revolusi memang cerah di jangka panjang, jadi pasti hancurkan harga jangka pendek dalam waktu yang tidak terukur. Jika BU sudah stabil otomatis banyak altcoin pakai pola yang sama dengan brand unlimited yang terpusat, alhasil lebih mempermudah regulasi kemana-mana, namun jadi membatasi kebebasan pengguna.
2677  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Kisah Sukses Bersama Bitcoin on: March 23, 2017, 02:20:02 AM
kesuksesan itu sifatnya relatif, bisa jadi berbeda2 setiap org utk pencapaiannya, bisa jadi kita bisa merasa sukses cukup dengan merasa bahagia dg apa yg sdh kita raih meski utk org lain hal tsb bs dianggap sesuatu yg biasa2 aja.

awal perkenalan sy dg bitcoin jg sebenernya bs dibilang scr tdk sengaja bahkan kenalnya justru lewat promo gratisan beberapa tahun yg lalu, bahkan thread sumber info td dikaskus justru dianggap trit sampah dan tdk ada peminatnya, yg berkunjung malah cuma tukang spam Grin
smpe skrg sy masih menyimpan trit bersejarah tsb = https://www.kaskus.co.id/post/000000000000000740536625#post000000000000000740536625

bisa anda lihat tahunnya = th 2012   Grin pada waktu itu harga BTC masih sekitar 13$-an per BTC dan kebetulan waktu itu coinbase baru aja dibuat webnya dan ada promo gratis 0.10 BTC per akun yg terverifikasi no.hpnya disana Cheesy Cheesy cb bayangin misal lihat rate harga BTC skrg  Cheesy dlu cukup 1 no.hp yg bs terima sms aja udah bs dpt 0.1 BTC gratis Cheesy Cheesy dan bs dpt duakali klo kita invite akun reff sendiri  Grin Cheesy

dan berhubung gratis setelah sy pelajari koin ini akhirnya sy berani spekulasi beli kartu perdana yg udah masuk masa tenggang (udah menuju mati)  Cheesy
sy bela2in keliling counter hp yg terdekat  buat berburu kartu mati yg msh bs dipake terima sms Cheesy
sy beli per box isi 100 biji kartu = Rp.50rb dan silahkan percaya atau tdk dr kartu mati td sy berhasil ngumpulin BTC sampe hmpir 84 BTC  Cheesy
sayang waktu itu harganya belum semahal skrg, rata2 laku diharga 60-100$ beberapa bulan berikutnya. apalagi dlu msh susah ngejualnya..di indonesia blm ada exchanger yg nampung BTC. satu2nya jalan cm bisa dijual lewat exchanger luar..kebanyakan ke nanaimogold dituker paypal atau lewat webmoney wallet WMX , atau dituker ke LR di Mtgox

sebenernya nyesel jg dlu terburu2 dijual semua tp ya tetep disukuri aja toh dptnya gratis Cheesy
dan dari sana hingga hari ini sy msh bisa punya modal utk trading BTC dan alt coin sehari2

jadi kadang sesuatu yg kita remehkan, yg kadang dianggap sampah dan tdk berharga dimata org justru klo kita jeli dan mau menggali serta mengelola info td sebaiknya2 tdk menutup kemungkinan justru bisa menghasilkan sesuatu yg diluar dugaan dan bermanfaat bagi kita

dan sama aja seperti semua org pd umumnya, pertama kenal jg sy awam sama sekali dg bitcoin tapi sy cb gali informasi yg byk ttg koin ini. sepanjang pengalaman intim dg bitcoin kena scam jg udah sering Grin Cheesy

no pic hoax = https://www.kaskus.co.id/show_post/53756bfacc07e79a308b45a4/1011/-

Jika dikumpulkan full tanpa PO untuk 84 btc sekarang Rp. 1150000000 (nolnya hitung sendiri). Ini satu lagi cerita original yang bagus selain cerita stellar, Jika tau potensi dapat segitu saya juga tidak ragu modal beli kartu sampe jutaan (saat itu), sayang dulu saya ada di sisi tengah yang masih ragu bitcoin adalah program scam.

Tapi saya percaya karena bro sudah sempat kumpulkan banyak, berarti saat ini anda juga bermain-main di nominal yang sama. Kisah sukses versi saya adalah kebanggaan membeli barang termahal pakai hasil dari bitcoin untuk sebidang tanah yang sangat lumayan mendekati hektar.
2678  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Bagaimana menjelaskan ke lingkungan sekitar tentang bitcoin? on: March 23, 2017, 01:58:28 AM
Ya , sesuai dengan judulnya . saya sejak bisa menghasilkan uang dari internet yang hanya bermodalkan handphone sampai bisa beli laptop . mendapatkan bisik bisik tentangga kurang bagus. Saya di kira seorang penjudi , Bobol Atm , Togel Dan lebih parahnya pelihara tuyul. Dan sempat ada yg bertanya kepada saya . saya langsung jawab " Dapat uang dari beli kuaci" adakah yang sama seperti saya?. Bingung mau di jelaskan juga belum tentu paham. Gx di jelaskan juga makin jadi . bisa bisa saya di nantinya dituduh seperti dimas kanjeng
hahaha jangan kan tetangga, ane sama keluarga sendiri aja dicurigai.
suka tanya2 uang dari mana sama orang tua?
ane malah di tuduh jual narkoba sama kakak sendiri karena saya diem di luar kota sendirian (emang ane sama kakak kurang akrab).
ketika ane bisa beli miner sendiri ane jelasin gmn proses ane dpt duit.
gaji sebulan kakak ane yg kerja di bank kalah sama hasil rent miner ane yg cuma 2 minggu. Cheesy

Pada akhirnya semua anggapan miring memerlukan sebuah pembuktian, saya menjawab semua tudingan itu juga dengan hasil ngirim bulanan orang tua dan lain lain, saudara akan diam sendiri dengan hanya senyum2 kecut. Orang yang tidak pernah terjun bisnis online cenderung hanya liat bentuk negatif dari berita di tv, sebagian anggap BO hanya sistem jual beli dan investasi.

Untuk bitcoin sendiri berita yang langganan masuk metro tv dan kawan2nya hanya tentang transaksi narkoba jadi wajar saja mereka brainwashing. Saat kita terangkan earning recehan mereka tertawa, namun saat kita jelaskan trading mereka terkaget-kaget, apalagi mining rig sendiri yang butuh tanggung jawab dan modal.
2679  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: March 21, 2017, 03:54:36 AM
Every person in this world would want to benefit from everything that they do, it's always for profit, not generalizing everybody but still, if you would play and has the chance to win, then that's great. Win win if ever you win always.

All of these things you are saying is hoping for better profit and that goes along with fun games as well as good purpose. Well everyone has their own will of everything and that reasons is personal, and you can't control the desire of playing whether for fun or profit as long as they are happy with their comfort zone; whatever reasons it is.

Many people say that gambling is hobby and fun game, but I see people with this type most often lose money and become active gambling addict. serious player capable of managing strategy, time, and capital. All can be well controlled to generate profits. So there's no consistent profits if gambling is only considered a hobby, as well as times when we do trading.
2680  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Perjuangan seorang Newbie on: March 21, 2017, 03:39:17 AM
wow ternyata ada banyak juga yah newbie, kirain saya doank Smiley
mohon bimbingannya gan dan salam kenal dari saya Cheesy
Semua orang juga mulai dari newbie Smiley
Saya juga masih bisa dibilang newbie (baru join awal februari) Grin

Unik juga, dulu saya sama seperti agan banyak tanya dan perkenalan.
Pengetahuan justru datang dari setiap pertanyaan dan ikut terlibat ngobrol topik setiap halaman tidak ada yang terlewat. Jika pemula sudah hafal letak seluruh section masing2 dijamin betah berlama-lama disini.

Baru join bulan februari kog udah bisa jr. Member gan?
Apa rahasianya? Bagi2 dong gan

Jadi junior member cukup tulis 30 post kurun waktu 1.5 bulan, rahasia terbaik ada disini https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=757649.0
Sekalian sempatkan beberapa posting di topik luar ya karena signature btc yang nerima full lokal poster sudah sangat jarang.
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