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26621  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What do you think about 9/11 mystery? on: December 06, 2016, 09:41:13 PM
I'm Civil Engineer and i red the blog "911 Controlled Demolition" in youtube(just type and watch).

Probably you will shock and convince that 911 attack is a controlled demolition and it is used as a reason to attack Al qaeda (covering the real reason: To attack iraq and control the resources of the land).

Many lives was taken. It reflects in the TV Series "Game of Thrones" (War and Politics)

The real beneficiary of war and politics in this world is the oligarchs (Businessmen):

1) Weapons Companies (who supplied armies and terrorists)
2) Banks (who illegally transacting between rebel and supplier of weapons)
3) Oil Companies (who illegally stealing the resources of the lands)

Yes it was definitely a controlled demolition. The most obvious was building 7. The official 9/11 report did not even include building 7. Too much of a smoking gun.

There was no plane wreckage at the pentagon.

As for the beneficiaries? Well, we have George W. Bush, Oil Mogul. Then we have Dick Cheyney, Hailburton. That covers 1 and 3, I don't know who the banker is. Clearly many were involved and made huge profits from this.


To say nothing about the warmongers in government needing an excuse to go to war in Iraq and the rest of the Middle East... just like FDR got his excuse to go to war with Japan in WW2, by setting things up economically so that the Japs would attack just to protect themselves from FDRs illicit trade practices.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1385160.msg17100008#msg17100008

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26622  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: December 06, 2016, 09:33:15 PM

And what exactly are we looking at in this video? Ice being melted by the Sun and a claim that the Sun only has a narrow beam of heat? Where's the thermal camera to show the heat map coming from the Sun?

All I got from this video is ice melts when in direct sunlight. Could have done that experiment at the beach while grabbing a drink from a cooler.

Well no surprise, your mind is totally programmed to a globot zombie.  Even a almost blind man can see flat earth reality from this video.

Hard evidence proof, globe is dead and case is closed.


The difference between you and I is that I look at everything presented objectively while you look at it subjectively. Anyone who doesn't agree with you will be labelled as per your reply, even though you know nothing about them or their upbringing.

The almost blind man you refer to would be able to see light and dark but nothing more from this video, let alone be able to conclude that the Earth is flat from it, but you'll see exactly what you want to see.

The only hard evidence this video provides is that flat Earthers are more gullible than I first thought.

Yep! The only difference between flat earth and Nigerian emails is, those who promote, and those who fall for it.

Cool

Look who is talking.

Preaching God's Words to others, yet at the same time rejecting the same Word which clearly states FLAT EARTH! That can be called a double minded person or even worse.

Look again and make up your mind. You cannot believe in the Word of God and in the spinning monkey ball at the same time.




Good for you. Keep the faith. Don't get into science. Understand the Bible like the ignorant primitive peoples did.

Sometime take a skiff out into the Atlantic or the Caribbean. Go out far enough so that you can't see land any longer. Do it at a calm time, when there are no storms expected. View the flat waters, and the sun by day and the stars by night. You can wear your spectacles, but don't take binoculars or anything other than a compass (so you can get back when the time is right).

Why do all this? You and everyone else that does this sees flat, with a dome over it. Everyone who does this while putting aside his scientific training sees flat with a dome over it.

In ancient times, there was enough confusion about simply living right. Let the people have what they understand by simple looking... flat with a dome over it. Talk to them in their language.

At the same time, give the investigators among them the things that they figure out through other than simple observation. Give them the truth about what they are looking at - the globe.

From the beginning of the Revelation: "The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches, and the seven lampstands are the seven churches." So, if you are a Bible believing person, you know, right from the Bible, that stars are really angels.

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26623  Other / Off-topic / Re: Holidays on the moon will be possible in a DECADE - but... on: December 06, 2016, 09:19:53 PM
Here is a fact sheet about the FAA review: https://www.faa.gov/news/fact_sheets/news_story.cfm?newsId=20595

I agree that the moon would probably be a boring place to visit.
The only reason to go is just to say you did it.

There is something else intriguing about the moon. The moon is not earth, but it is way closer than anything else.

The wealthy are not jointly into everything government. Government is not on the moon. If the wealthy can start their own moon government, there might be nothing the war mongering governments of earth can do about it.

Think of the logical, peaceful advancement of civilization and science, away from the war mongering governments. Yet, moon is close enough that it will be easy to transport necessities from here, which can't be readily had on the moon right away.

Probably, all the raw materials can be found on the moon. But it will take too much time developing a basic start to just go there without some help from earth. Mars is too far away to do ANYTHING easily. The lighter gravity of the moon will make it a good jumping-into-space point, especially once we get things set up for real manufacturing there. Then, Mars, and beyond.

Probably by the time we are able to colonize Mars in a meaningful way, somebody will have found out how to give people 500 years of life in good health. We won't have to worry about overpopulation, even with longer lives.

Next will come other planets, and by that time we will have found out how to live to one or two thousand years old. Then the universe.

Cool
26624  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Referendum in Italy Which could lead them to leave the EU on: December 06, 2016, 05:10:01 PM
If they do leave the EU, maybe the USA will accept them as a State.

Cool
26625  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is not really open source. Why not? on: December 06, 2016, 05:08:17 PM
I kinda feel sorry for you. You have to ignore someone to keep from perusing his post? Don't you even have enough self-control just to scroll on by? By placing somebody on ignore, you are only ignoring yourself and your true needs. Tell your psychiatrist about your problem. He might be able to recommend a suitable funny farm. Maybe the same one notbatman and nomadxxxxxx are at.

dont worry about "question authority". he stopped questioning authority years ago, now he just seems to accept authority.

The funny farm will give him more freedom.

I never placed anyone on ignore. I was curious. Are the ignored persons posts invisible inside another person's post during a reply?

Cool
26626  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is not really open source. Why not? on: December 06, 2016, 04:42:55 PM
Enough people have more or less an idea, what is inside the code, to verify that it does not contain any nasty surprises.  Grin .... People were quick to identify malicious code in Bitcoin XT, when it revealed some "backdoors"  Wink

If anything, that laughable incident only highlighted the concept raised in this thread.  People looked at the XT code, saw lines mentioning functions like fShouldBan and banscore and naturally assumed that XT had "introduced" the possibility of banning or blacklisting.  When, in fact, the "offending" code is right there in Core's repo and any node on the network could be banning or blacklisting peers as they see fit right now.  To the average onlooker, it's clear as mud.  People are very easily misled over this sort of thing and I find it amusing that some people still think that code is malicious after all this time.

I commend your clever way of saying this. I really am not all that clever at saying things like this. Have you considered a job as a politician?

Cool
26627  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is not really open source. Why not? on: December 06, 2016, 04:40:43 PM
Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean no one understands it. You can even compile it yourself on a shit windowz computer after looking at the code if you want to install 7z, perl, python and MinGW. I've been downloading and compiling my own client since it was on sourceforge. The only thing I disagree with about the current release is the retirement of the alert key. I can still see possible uses for it. Privileged users shouldn't be able to send messages on a decentralized system, bla bla, bullshit. There's always going to be "privileged" people responsible for code and telling dumbasses like BADecker there's a problem.

The problem really is that you don't want to learn anything BADecker. It's the same reason you still think the earth is flat.


You really need to look at the franky1 post above your post.    Cool

I can't see franky1's posts. I ignored him long ago.

You've only franked yourself by doing that.    Cool

The only reason I don't ignore you is that I find your ridiculous uninformed stone-aged bullshit amusing. I just find franky1's bullshit annoying.

I kinda feel sorry for you. You have to ignore someone to keep from perusing his post? Don't you even have enough self-control just to scroll on by? By placing somebody on ignore, you are only ignoring yourself and your true needs. Tell your psychiatrist about your problem. He might be able to recommend a suitable funny farm. Maybe the same one notbatman and nomadxxxxxx are at.

Cool
26628  Other / Off-topic / Re: Cover Your Phone, Briefcase, Bath Fixtures With Gold And Feel Like Millionaire on: December 06, 2016, 04:28:13 PM
Cover your chipped credit and debit cards with aluminum sheathing, and become secure.

Cool
26629  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is not really open source. Why not? on: December 06, 2016, 04:25:52 PM
Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean no one understands it. You can even compile it yourself on a shit windowz computer after looking at the code if you want to install 7z, perl, python and MinGW. I've been downloading and compiling my own client since it was on sourceforge. The only thing I disagree with about the current release is the retirement of the alert key. I can still see possible uses for it. Privileged users shouldn't be able to send messages on a decentralized system, bla bla, bullshit. There's always going to be "privileged" people responsible for code and telling dumbasses like BADecker there's a problem.

The problem really is that you don't want to learn anything BADecker. It's the same reason you still think the earth is flat.


You really need to look at the franky1 post above your post.    Cool

I can't see franky1's posts. I ignored him long ago.

You've only franked yourself by doing that.    Cool
26630  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is not really open source. Why not? on: December 06, 2016, 04:06:36 PM
Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean no one understands it. You can even compile it yourself on a shit windowz computer after looking at the code if you want to install 7z, perl, python and MinGW. I've been downloading and compiling my own client since it was on sourceforge. The only thing I disagree with about the current release is the retirement of the alert key. I can still see possible uses for it. Privileged users shouldn't be able to send messages on a decentralized system, bla bla, bullshit. There's always going to be "privileged" people responsible for code and telling dumbasses like BADecker there's a problem.

The problem really is that you don't want to learn anything BADecker. It's the same reason you still think the earth is flat.


You really need to look at the franky1 post above your post.    Cool
26631  Other / Politics & Society / Re: "Inside the Clinton Team’s Plan to Defeat Donald Trump" on: December 06, 2016, 03:58:51 PM
HUUUGE NEVADA VOTER FRAUD UNCOVERED? WORSE THAN ACORN





Vaughan brought into the NEWSMAXTV Las Vegas studio and laid it out for all to see, US postal service certified returned mail from 9,200 voters in District 15. Many of the people who were listed as deceased are still on the active voter rolls today. Many of the returned mail came back with 5 people living in a vacant lot with no mail receptacle.

Edward Snowden, Willie Nelson, Waylon Jennings and dozens of movie stars were registered to vote in District 15 according to Mr. Vaughan. Mr. Vaughan tested a sample of 200 people of the 9,200 return mail and found that 185 of those had indeed voted.

Mr. Vaughan and many others have testified that they went to the polls to vote only to be told they had voted already. They were given a provisional ballots which would only be counted if the total vote count was within 1% according to poll supervisors.

According to Mr. Vaughan, there were other serious voting system irregularities he documented, including early voting numbers flipping day to day. A total number of 17,086 votes were cast in District 15 for both Republican and Democrat candidates. 9,200 voters on the voter rolls who, by law, should not be on the voter rolls is a huuge discrepancy.


Read more at http://www.newsmaxtv.vegas/huuuge-nevada-voter-fraud-uncovered-worse-than-acorn/.


Cool
26632  Other / Politics & Society / Pearl Harbor Facts and Proof on: December 06, 2016, 03:50:54 PM
Pearl Harbor Facts and Proof





Stinnett conclusively demonstrates with vast and incontrovertible documentary evidence that in order to precipitate an unwilling American public into supporting intervention in the Second World War, President Roosevelt oversaw the contrivance and deployment of a closely-guarded secret plot to goad the Japanese into attacking Pearl Harbor. The plan was set in motion in October 1940, and its development closely monitored through decoded intercepts of Japanese diplomatic and military radio communications. Knowledge of the plan was limited to 13 Roosevelt administration members and chief military officers, and 21 members of Naval Intelligence and related operations. Once it produced the intended result and the attack impended, the Pacific fleet's modern naval vessels were sent to sea from Pearl Harbor, leaving seven antiquated World War One battleships as decoys.


Read more at https://www.lewrockwell.com/2016/12/no_author/pearl-harbor-fake-news-story/.


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26633  Other / Off-topic / Re: Man saves dog from kangaroo n knocks it silly on: December 06, 2016, 03:37:51 PM
Kangaroo soft chin. Man not break fist.     Grin
26634  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is not really open source. Why not? on: December 06, 2016, 03:36:06 PM
Bitcoin is not open source because only a relatively small cross section of Bitcoin users understand the programming.

I use Bitcoin Core for Windows found through the link at https://bitcoin.org/en/download. The name of the current version file that I download is "bitcoin-0.13.1-win64-setup.exe." The download screen says that the size of the file is 12.5 MB (megabytes). The Windows (zip) of the same program says it is 22.6 MB. I use the smaller of these two.

While I really don't know what the difference is between these downloads, the smaller of the two installed to my "Program Files" directory in my computer, at 41 MB. (The whole blockchain is well over 100 GB (gigabytes).)

Do you know how many lines of code you could write to fill 41 MB of computer hard drive memory? Thousands!

What do all these lines of code do? What do they do to your computer? How do they work with your Internet connection, and what is really being sent over the Internet when you have Bitcoin running? Is there really anybody who knows the whole thing?

The point is, Bitcoin is not really open source, because it is not open to the vast majority of minds that use it. The average person could understand the whole Encyclopedia Britannica easier than he could understand what goes on with the Bitcoin programming in his computer. And probably fewer than 99% of programmers understand it, to say nothing of lay people.

Since you refer to a Windows executable, your download is a precompiled binary which most certainly includes a few libraries not available in Windows by default. Even if you have full understanding of the Bitcoin protocol and the development tools (including a programming language) with which this specific implementation of Bitcoin was built, you will still be using third party as well as operating system libraries and kernel calls (e.g. network stack calls), and you can't possibly know what exactly all these are doing to your computer, especially if you are using Windows...

In this way, your point is essentially moot (whatever you wanted to say)

The part that is NOT moot is the fact that people need to realize this... that they are trusting all kinds of programmers all over the place, especially Microsoft

Yes, but it has been known for decades already

Even in totally open-sourced systems like Linux or FreeBSD you have no other option but to trust other people and their knowledge, since it is simply impossible to first understand and then check all types of software used in a modern computer. In fact, even if you have a full source code tree of some program or utility and understand every line of it or developed it yourself, you can't be 100% sure that it will do exactly what you think it should

All that this says is that these programs, although called open source, are not really as open as the public might think that they are.

Cool
26635  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is not really open source. Why not? on: December 06, 2016, 03:34:18 PM
Well take "Windows" as a example... all the code is proprietary and not shared with the public, so you cannot call that Open Source. In my view all

the code is viewable and everyone with a sound programming knowledge, would have a clue what is written there. Enough people have more or less

an idea, what is inside the code, to verify that it does not contain any nasty surprises.  Grin .... People were quick to identify malicious code in Bitcoin

XT, when it revealed some "backdoors"  Wink

Thank you. Good point.    Cool
26636  Other / Off-topic / Re: Holidays on the moon will be possible in a DECADE - but... on: December 06, 2016, 03:32:23 PM
And what is so special about the moon? There are some places on Earth that would blow anyone's mind other than going to a flat grey non-lively ground with no modernity at all. If I want to live the experiment, I could simply get a 3D/digital TV and watch any moon expedition.

Oh, the wealthy are simply looking for a place to go, so that when the crash comes, they won't get executed by the masses, simply for being rich.

Cool
26637  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Jim Rickards - They're Going To Lock Down The System on: December 06, 2016, 03:27:49 PM
It will be a mess. Bitcoin will be the answer as long as the UN doesn't lock down the Internet. We all need to learn how to trade bitcoins, directly, through our handhelds, without the Internet being needed. What are the apps that allow us to do this?

Bitcoiners will become rich, as more and more of the people who haven't even heard of Bitcoin now, will flock to bitcoiners after the crash, to have their transactions made.

Cool
26638  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is not really open source. Why not? on: December 06, 2016, 03:18:15 PM
You have a bad approach in talking about what you have in mind. You have some good points here and there but at the same time you are wrong about lots of other things for example Ubuntu Kernel is also Open source or the same with Firefox and all the things you say are true about millions of people who are using these.

Open source means anyone can go to the source code: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin looks at it and report publicly if he/she finds any shenanigans and also anyone can use the code to build their own code:
https://github.com/spesmilo/electrum
https://github.com/keepkey/multibit
https://github.com/etotheipi/BitcoinArmory
https://github.com/blockchain (blockchain.info)
....

What end users can do is either learn a programming language and read the code themselves or trust hundreds of others who are doing it.

I feel soooo comfortable now that I realize that there are public programmers who have examined the whole Bitcoin Core programming in great detail, and would certainly broadcast it all over the Internet if they found anything wrong with it. I'm simply relieved.

To the general public, open source means nothing. All it does is make them feel comfortable, so that if there is a malicious programmer, he can attack them easier by saying that his program is open source.

Cool
26639  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is not really open source. Why not? on: December 06, 2016, 03:14:03 PM
Bitcoin is not open source because only a relatively small cross section of Bitcoin users understand the programming.

I use Bitcoin Core for Windows found through the link at https://bitcoin.org/en/download. The name of the current version file that I download is "bitcoin-0.13.1-win64-setup.exe." The download screen says that the size of the file is 12.5 MB (megabytes). The Windows (zip) of the same program says it is 22.6 MB. I use the smaller of these two.

While I really don't know what the difference is between these downloads, the smaller of the two installed to my "Program Files" directory in my computer, at 41 MB. (The whole blockchain is well over 100 GB (gigabytes).)

Do you know how many lines of code you could write to fill 41 MB of computer hard drive memory? Thousands!

What do all these lines of code do? What do they do to your computer? How do they work with your Internet connection, and what is really being sent over the Internet when you have Bitcoin running? Is there really anybody who knows the whole thing?

The point is, Bitcoin is not really open source, because it is not open to the vast majority of minds that use it. The average person could understand the whole Encyclopedia Britannica easier than he could understand what goes on with the Bitcoin programming in his computer. And probably fewer than 99% of programmers understand it, to say nothing of lay people.

Since you refer to a Windows executable, your download is a precompiled binary which most certainly includes a few libraries not available in Windows by default. Even if you have full understanding of the Bitcoin protocol and the development tools (including a programming language) with which this specific implementation of Bitcoin was built, you will still be using third party as well as operating system libraries and kernel calls (e.g. network stack calls), and you can't possibly know what exactly all these are doing to your computer, especially if you are using Windows...

In this way, your point is essentially moot (whatever you wanted to say)

The part that is NOT moot is the fact that people need to realize this... that they are trusting all kinds of programmers all over the place, especially Microsoft.

The whole money system has slowly grown into an Internet thing, all run by computers and programming that isn't understood by anybody except the tiniest handful of programmers. The open source aspect of Bitcoin is little different, but not much.

How big is Windows 10 on the computer. Gigabytes. And much of it is NOT open source.

Probably a lot of people would be scared to no end if they realized what their computers are doing behind the scenes. The term "open-source" simply quells their fears, even though little open source programming is really understood by anyone, relatively.

Cool
26640  Other / Off-topic / Re: Holidays on the moon will be possible in a DECADE - but... on: December 06, 2016, 03:00:26 PM
In 10 years, $10,000 may have inflated to $20,000. But, there are many people who can afford this, one time.

Cool

EDIT: Note that the original article says pounds, not even euros. The European Union and euros will be gone long before 10 years is up. If the coming economic crash (that has been predicted for decades, so who knows if it will come) is big enough, the whole space program and everything else might be down by then. We might be back to primitive living, just learning how to barter with gold and silver again.
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