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2681  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [FACTS] ANON Coins = Illegal on: January 13, 2017, 01:32:17 PM
I didn't ask you to continue to derail the conversation about what Crypto should be (good job by the way it's working)
Got off to topic nicely.. well done LOL

NOPE my idea of crypto is ...

Currency.
Adoption.

And if there is problems / barriers to getting them adopted then recognize them and deal with them.
AKA: common sense.

Now back onto the topic Wink

I posted this topic because i see what i pointed out as a barrier to mass adoption and integration within the general public and existing financial world.. how could you not ?

By railing on with idealistic childish little views and ideology that "it shouldn't be that way" ?
By feeding us the ole cliche of how Crypto is suppose to be about "sticking it to the man" ?

Cut the crap people.
All that shit you spew accomplishes one thing.. trading for profits on Poloniex (not adoption)

Stop and think for a second.
All we have is centralized govt controlled and compliant AML based exchanges here RIGHT NOW.
I say well guess what ? Monero for example violates those laws (why exchanges collect your Picture ID and track you etc)
Then you have the fucking audacity to chant the free market little kiddy no laws rabble at me ?
Do you even see the silly hypocrisy people ?

How could any Monero supporter being condoning Poloniex or any other that is US govt complaint crypto-service ?
You are hypocrites.. you spew bulllshit then do the opposite on Polo for profits.
YOU ARE in fact full of shit.
And no picking at me for WHY i am here on & on does not magically change reality either.
The reality being.. a problem with adoption.

I told you all loud & clear daily Regulations were coming etc and here we are with Cryptsy and numerous other adding "Verification" masked tracking etc.
They told me they regularly handed off the users data to the Fed's when requested and then would lie to the customer telling them network problems etc.

And i predicted it people.. i fucking god damn told you !
And all i got 3 years ago was 100% unanimous laughing and trolling in return.
Chat boxes would erupt with laughter and say ohhhhhh they can't do anything..
And we don't need them etc etc.

They are silent now.. and i am saying I TOLD YOU SO
..again

You all have been warned and i am doing you a service here.
I posted on Bitcointalk the SEC's Crypto-Currency Investor Fraud Alert PDF the same day it came out.
I told you about the FBI nailing people on LocalBitcoins.
I told you about Github being US govt compliant.
I told you about Ripple and the FINCEN fines they got.
I told you about Coinbase ratting out KickAssTorrents
I warned you all about GOX far in advance.
I warned you all about Cryptsy and their ratting out people in advance.

@Dino what the fuck were you doing before you showed up here late in 2014 after me defending shitcoins ?
Me ? see the list above son Wink
2682  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ripple and bitshares rated the most insecure blockchain software by China CERT on: January 13, 2017, 01:16:50 PM
There are some things common to both Ripple and Bitshares

1. Both are Proof of Stake coin

2. Both have more than  billion tokens

3. Both are centralised

I'm not surprised about the report at all. I think we need independent research like this to expose flaws like this to protect investors

How about crooked unfair rigged launches ? Does that interest you ?
Funny how i never hear anyone bring up that shit..

Doesn't seem to matter if Zcash has a genius tax for example.
The only REAL question is.. how much ROI'z can i get at Polo for them ?
2683  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How to find out a legit ICO? on: January 13, 2017, 01:14:13 PM
How can i tell which PONZI Scheme is good ?
How will i know which one is gonna gimme mad ROI'z yo ?

THAT is what you all sound like.  Roll Eyes
2684  Other / Off-topic / [NEWS] [P2P] Old Suspecious Farts getting FLAC & Giving Nukes ! on: January 13, 2017, 07:01:08 AM
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+------------------ \____/ -------  \____/ -------- \_____/  \____/ ----------- \____/ -------+

AFTER SOME YEARS IN A DICTATORSHIP WITH A RULESET CREATED BY PEOPLE THAT AREN'T
EVEN LEADING FORCES IN THE FLAC SECTION, WE WANTED TO INFORM YOU THAT THE CURRENT
FLAC RULE SET IS NOT VALID BECAUSE NEVER DISCUSSED BY GROUPS IN A CHANNEL AND EVEN MORE
WORSE IT BLOCKS THE FUTURE OF MUSIC RELEASING BY BANNING ALL LEGIT WEB CONTENT.

REMOVE THIS SECTION FROM YOUR AUTO-NUKE BOTS AND WAIT TILL WE ALL FOUND A SOLUTION TO
THIS DISASTER EVERYONE MUST LIVE WITH SINCE YEARS! AS LONG THERE IS NO AGREEMENT THE RULE SET
IS OUT OF FUNCTION!

WHY IS THE RULE SET NOT LEGIT?!

1. Rules get created by groups that are supplying a section since years and responsible
   for the content you all benefit from.

2. Our common understanding of a legit rule set is that a so-called "COUNCiL" gets formed
   out by leaders of the most active groups in a section to control the quality and create
   the standards for future releases.

SUMMARY:

Nothing of the above happens here. They just pop up created by ONE person and few people met at
site rings. Groups were forced to follow them and signed them without the chance to change them!!!

No invitation into a channel to discuss the rule set, sign and release them as it is common in
all other sections we developed TOGETHER over the past years.

IN THIS CASE THATS THE WAY HOW ALL THE GROUPS SIGNED THE RULES (PROOF):

<XXX> when will actually get the new rules ?
<XXXX-XXX> theyre ready
<XXXX-XXX> waiting on other council ppl to vote (NOTE: WHAT COUNCIL?!)
<XXXX-XXX> 3 ppl need to vote
<XXX> question just because it's already some time ago
<XXXX-XXX> encoder changed
<XXX> new flac?
<XXXX-XXX> its going to be 1.3.1
<XXX> oh ok
<XXXX-XXX> pls dl http://xxx/file.html < new updated flac rules > and vote asap

EVEN IF YOU DENIED THE SIGNING THEY SCREW IT OUT WITH PEOPLE'S FEAR OF NUKING FUTURE RELEASES!
NO DISCUSSION ABOUT TYPO'S AND ANYTHING POSSIBLE! JUST SIGN OR DIE!

That means those rules are not legit in any way! YES! THEY ARE NOT LEGIT!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[WEB AND PROMO FORBIDDEN BY RULES]:

The worst thing the rule set blocks WEB / PROMO releases what is total nonsense because most
artists and labels switched to digital distribution only. GET A BRAIN! We missing tons of
originals, promos etc. Instead, people archiving and releasing degraded MP3 sound files cut by some
digital sound engine called LAME (PSY/GPSYCHO).

Advantages of WEB FLAC:

* 24 Bit/96 kHz and more possible! (MP3 can't handle this bitrates)
* NO DIFFERENCE to the retail product. There is just no physical medium anymore!
* Double of data in a .flac file beside .mp3 (IT'S THE ORIGINAL CONTENT CREATED IN THE STUDIO)
* Enough legit webshops, 100% digital labels around that releasing wav and/or .flac files!
* You CAN BUY WEB flac at legit stores instead hacking google.play and autopre stuff!
  That is no excuse to forbid all WEB content.

- So what is THE TRUTH about the current rule set? -

It got created by old suspecious farts that built a decent network of nuke systems implemented to servers.

As we all know the whole scene suffers from this individuals in the meantime because
they not doing their job probably. They are not around to check dupes and prevent double
uploads or checking the content, instead, they creating rules in meantime all sites and sections must follow.
Doesn't matter how stupid they are! (E.G. MP3COUNCIL VS RIAA NUKEWAR). There is no reason to nuke actual improved LAME
versions with the newest GPSYCHO/PSY engine.

The worst thing is that those individuals created decent siterings and a database with all scene sites listed.
 
YES SITERINGS AND A BIG SITE DATABASE!

Something FORBIDDEN back in time for security reasons! If one big ring is infiltrated and
busted, a whole part of the scene is shut down! GREAT! AGAIN GET A BRAIN! Or imagine this database(s) get leaked!?
WTF!

To hide their missing operating system skills and understanding of Linux, programming
languages and everything you need to secure a server probably they even invented an
IP-banning system that forcing couriers and groups to drop all sites that are
rented / colocation or with setups not common for their understanding.
This, of course, leads to nothing instead losing friends! 

Homelinks that producing terabytes of traffic every month are the riskiest way to run
a scene site because this amount of traffic is not normal for an end-user. We all can remember
busts in .SE BBB back in time or not?

FINAL:

As long all the bigger and smaller active FLAC GROUPS not discussing their rules in a
channel, this ruleset is just some master control program by networks not doing any real release work
for the scene.

[WE ARE NOT HERE TO SUPPORT WAREZ SELLING IN ANY WAY, FUCK YOUR P2P, SLOT SELLING SHIT AND GET A JOB INSTEAD!]

ALL THE FLAC NUKES ARE FAKE INSTEAD DUPES AND ALL GROUP STATISTICS ARE USELESS!
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2685  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Litecoin Core 0.13.2 with SegWit released! on: January 13, 2017, 06:48:24 AM
hi Spoetnik,
                don't take this as me suddenly being anti litecoin. i still think litecoin is one of the very few honest coins e.g. it wasn't created merely to make the devs fiat (like 99.7% of other alts).

simply the path of the developers, at this point in time, does not fit with what i think is the way forward for cryptocurrency., doesn't mean they, or I am wrong or right.

you could potentially have a scenario where the things tested for bitcoin work with litecoin but bitcoin for whatever reason doesn't or can't implement them (eg segwit, LN), that would be big for LTC and anyone investing in LTC.


cheers
Kelsey



I think we see eye to eye often so i think i get what you mean.
I am not going to rain down hell on earth on LTC all of a sudden either.
People think i post to be a troll etc.
Only criticism i had on LTC i can recall was their talk of going "ANON" which i thought was a horrible idea.
I have often even given props to Monero and their shill's on occasion for being more sincere basically.
I only hope to cut through all the crap and be honest and see things honestly.

Holding grudges or being an irrational fanboy etc is all a bunch of crap.
We should be able to re-asses things as time goes on.

Interesting comment kelsey food for thought LOL
2686  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [FACTS] ANON Coins = Illegal on: January 13, 2017, 05:08:40 AM
@dinofelis
You said..

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I have no ROI, I don't even have an account on Polo and I don't speculate or trade.  Your insinuating this all the time is getting ridiculous.

That is WHY i am here Wink
What comes around goes around bud  Cool

I highly doubt you defend Monero here so 24/7 every day simply because you are a contrarian.
There must be some other reason you are so manic and rabid at quelling and squashing any criticism posted about Monero soon after it's posted here every day.

Since you love verbal gymnastics so much i DO think you possess Monero coins.
Which to me = ROI's
Quite possibly a dev like smooth etc..  i don't know.
Funny how i rarely ever see smooth or smoothie post but i see you non stop.

Use your home IP here like me ?
Or using TOR / VPN etc then saying your "not people" ?

So what is your deal then ?
Do you enjoy just being a contrarian or do my comments just get under your skin or what ?
You really do seem to pop up arguing with me all the time.
Usually the exception routine too.. i say most people are alive and you oh ohh ohh but but but *some* are dead.
And we would not characterize people as dead would we ?

@generalizethis
See the world of File Sharing for your reference.
You see Mr. "Has me on ignore" ...the P2P world is full of crimes (Google it)

I also don't buy your speech about what Crypto is suppose to be.
I take it in a literal sense..
It's a currency then if it's not used it failed.
My problem with Monero aside from their Shill's shenanigans is the concept + implementation and grandiose claims printed on Hoody's.
Apparently Monero is the world first computer code tech that is bullet proof.
Until you argue with these guys and they say "no one claimed that" LOL

MY PROBLEM is making a currency crippled from it's launch destined toil in niche obscurity

while bag holding shill's bullshit the naive with "one day" (the one day it will get major world wide adoption routine)

My problem is knowing full well that adoption is highly unlikely because of how it works and what it does by design.
2687  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Litecoin Core 0.13.2 with SegWit released! on: January 13, 2017, 04:50:02 AM
Interesting kelsey !
You know i hold you opinion in high regard.. you are intelligent and very astute with this stuff.

I too way back heard some talk of "testing" and no i was not amused either.

It's time i re-examine my stance in Litecoin i think.
I had supported it for ages because they earned it way back.
It's what got me here !

But if they are going on a course i do not approve of then i guess i have to pull my support.
In a way i have been TRYING to continue to support them regardless of bad signs.
Being a bit of a blind cheerleader i suppose.. because of past accomplishments.

If i can not re-assess my stance on a project then i am an idiot.
I don't want to become what i complain about all the time.. a blind stubborn baggy cheerleader shill.

Oh and when i said i bought some the other day i mean $22 worth at Bittrex  Cheesy
So it's not like i mortgaged my house to buy Altcoins.
2688  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ripple and bitshares rated the most insecure blockchain software by China CERT on: January 13, 2017, 04:41:40 AM
All i would have to think about Ripple is if the system is controlled by a central closed source point..
then if that point is exploited then the whole entire thing falls apart like a house of cards.
Then we could end up with another GOX or Cryptsy going on where they would end up lying for ages and cooking the books behind closed doors.

I would say those are the last coins on earth i would touch.
I have never owned a Ripple coin or Bitshares nor would i.
All records of my activity on any site would prove this easily too.

I don't support ICO scam scheme coins for profit.

Guys, just imagine all those Big Banks the Ripple guys say are using Ripple..
What happens with them when they get hacked ?  Shocked
2689  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] <redacted> (seeking opinions) on: January 13, 2017, 04:34:37 AM
I'll read the long reply above when I get back from a VIP dinner, but wish to comment on the following first.

TBC, are you folks telling me that my idea's impossible but a knighted penguin can be promoted to Brigadier by Norwegian King's Guard? Seriously?! What next? Presidential pardons for turkeys who never committed a crime against humanity, let alone against fellow turkeys? (apologies for wetting my pants after penning all that)

Penguin given knighthood by King of Norway

LOL you see that penguin's swagger ? He knows he has the crowd right where he wants them !

But hey maybe you should talk to Shelby about his Bitcoin Killer coin ?
Apparently he has all the answers..
2690  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Do you think "iamnotback" really has the" Bitcoin killer"? on: January 13, 2017, 04:27:28 AM
0 ?
I am the only guy in crypto to see the parallel between the housing market crash and altcoins
and warn you idiots about it too  Grin

Guys like you peddling ICO's are the reason we are fucked and this is orders of magnitude far more than a joke than it is when i signed up here in mid-2013.

People used to snicker back then about "Altcoins" then roll their eyes.
Now ? L O L

Why ? topics like this with horrendous excuses for your own ICO and whacked out conspiracy theories etc

Mr. I got the Bitcoin Killer (the topic title)
Yet admits he don't "got it" because he has not wrote any code yet.
..nor does he have a plan or white paper on how he intends to accomplish this monumental task all by himself.. sick.

Yet funny enough you already got mouthy with a guy and said it would be released "Early 2017"
He quoted you on a previous page..
Soooo uhhhhhh better get crackin there bud  Cheesy

Lemme guess there will be an ICO as i PREDICTED like a god damn year ago.. like you admitted FINALLY...
These greedy Investards will say it's ok to launch an ICO if it's partially "mined" and you think the random forum guy is kinda smartish then you will get your Million dollars ALA: BlockNET style..
Then like BlockNET we will be sitting here in a year waiting for ..well, anything.
As you feed the public excuses and quite possibly conspiracy laden ones ripe with the staff are out to get you over FUD which is why they perma-banned your legendary account and you said you were leaving etc.

Hey what do i know (about Finance) aside from what i already posted on this topic LOL
Was i wrong ? feel free to cite the exact part Wink
What do i know ? hey never mind the "FUD" Investards get your bloody BTC's ready you got an ICO to buy !!1111
SICK fuckin' ROI'z yo !
You'll be ridin' that gawt damn lambo to the mutha fuckin' Moon before you can say... Bitcoin Killer™

On a serious note.. you REALLY should call it the "Bitcoin Killer Coin" ..that would be pretty damn funny ROFL
Trade symbol BKC of course.

Ignore ME ?  Cry
You have to or i bet you can't sleep at night.
You're like Willy Shatner staring out the plane window crappin' your pants  Kiss

2691  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ethereum Foundation Has Sold 90 Percent of ETC Criminal Coin in Last 6 Months on: January 13, 2017, 02:12:29 AM
Wrong.. it is in fact support.
With out sellers there would be no buyers.
Your logic could be taken the other way too..
Lowering the price as we know will feed the "cheap coin vultures"
It will provide an opportunity they are LOOKING FOR ! ..to buy moar cheap coin'z nom nom nom
Then they end up here Shilling their bags LOL

You are full of shit.
You yourself Minecache admitted to doing this too which i find hilarious.

You bitch & moan about it then SUPPORT it ahhahah

My 100's of puppet accounts i control now exposed would not change the logic of my "gud" point.  Grin
2692  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Litecoin Core 0.13.2 with SegWit released! on: January 13, 2017, 02:06:13 AM
Are you criticizing a speed improvement ?
Have we not heard complaints about it not being active enough code wise ?

A lot of the mining code out there was born from the early days of Litecoin mining too.
LTC helped pioneer this stuff big time.
They have paved the way for altcoins popping up years later.

Last i heard guys were talking about adding ANON features to it and i flamed it hard..
I still think it would be a really bad idea.
It's just not needed by the majority of us all.
I don't know about tracking stolen coins too much but if ANON helps them get away with it then i say think about that !
How often did you hear about a story where some guys BTC was stolen but they were able to track the coins ?
Me ?
I have nothing to hide either..

I also think ANON is picking a fight with major govt's ..a fight you won't win !

LTC can and should pursue what ever is good for the coin.
Improvements ?
People add them and they complain LOL
They don't add them and they complain  Cheesy

By the way.. i have not nor would i bitch if any other coin added Segwit too.
2693  Other / Off-topic / Re: [Survey] Flu Shots on: January 12, 2017, 10:29:49 PM
Ive never gotten a Flu shot myself but I dont think its a bad idea in general. I have a fairly strong immune system and typically dont catch the flu or other illnesses. Maybe thats not the best reasoning but it works for me so far.

I don't think it matters too much (if you are considered healthy)
I think the reason they do the shots and push them on us so hard is because we are at risk healthy or not.

Like Ebola for example.
It is contagious and deadly and would not matter if you are weak or not.

I think they push these FLU shots in an effort to curb epidemics from breaking out.
I mention this topic because my area of Canada is getting a higher rate last couple years
..they call it an epidemic too.

The major serious FLU virus's are not like the common cold.
I am fairly sure they could be life threatening to anyone.
Remember the outbreaks of the Bird Flu then the Pig/Swine FLU ?
They were major world headlines for a long time.

I dunno though i am no Doctor  Cheesy
2694  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: DASH - Where do new dashcoin come from? on: January 12, 2017, 10:24:30 PM
Good Morning,

I'm starting to learn about Dash and I had some doubts.
In Bitcoin every 10 minutes 12.5 bitcoins are created as rewards in the block, and who receives are the miners.

In the Dash where do the new dashcoin come from?

Grateful



Shhhh it's a secret !  Shocked
2695  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Will owning/trading Purevidz tokens make you liable to MPAA lawsuits? on: January 12, 2017, 10:17:54 PM
@dukeneptun
Your ideology means little to the MPAA.

The infamous web site / tracker "The Pirate Bay" was convicted of Piracy in a Swedish court of law because of ?
Ad-Revenue !

It was alleged (and never proven) that they earned many millions of dollars from the torrent site advertisements.

What the prosecution did was Google search the current rates for a pay-per-impression Ad-Campaign then they calculated the current payment rate times the amount of estimated page hits..
Then they entered that as "evidence" in a court of law.. then they were found guilty.
No financial proof was needed.. nor was any ever provided in the court case.

Funny enough the judge simply went with it and threw the book at them with such pitiful evidence.
Not surprising though because the judge was asked on camera if him previously being on an MPAA copyright board with the lead prosecutor representing the MPAA in the court case was a conflict of interest..
He smiled and said yes and wandered off..
Want to see it yourself ? download and watch "TPB-AFK The Movie" about the TPB trial.

Reality is what it is guys.
2696  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Will owning/trading Purevidz tokens make you liable to MPAA lawsuits? on: January 12, 2017, 10:08:55 PM
@ClamCoin
I just provided a possible way "How" right before you commented.
Did you read it ?

Sorry I dont read your posts. I Have in the past but reading them has affirmed that you never like to look at other views and only stick to you own so instead of getting into a shouting battle with you id prefer to just ignore you because even when things are brought to your attention that are positive you still stick to your negative guns.

With ico's for example.


Good luck being smart with your ears plugged and your eyes closed.. how "Smart" of you.

..your defense of this coin ?

They can't catch the dev.
And maybe not but they can shut down Github etc.
Maybe you SHOULD read what i posted you may learn something LOL

Ironic you act opinionated and arrogant then accuse me of it.
I am not the "smart guy" plugging his ears.  Cheesy

PS:
You ignored me because you CAN'T refute what i said and my "FUD" is utterly diabolical Wink  Cool
2697  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [FACTS] ANON Coins = Illegal on: January 12, 2017, 09:59:31 PM
Dino you have said before stuff like the purpose of crypto is to be a rebel and break laws etc.
Who said that ? Satoshi ?
I have no idea where all that bullshit came from.. but it took off like it was the official mantra of the Altcoin world (used primarily to cover greedy profit schemes nothing more)
You SAY you don't want laws because of ideology.
You actually don't want laws people because you think it interferes with your Poloniex ROI's.

I challenge your assertion that crypto was always intended to be about breaking laws and fighting the man.
Nope.. it's about making a crypto-currency that gets adopted and USED.
Whether or not it breaks laws is a secondary point to me.
What is first ? ADOPTION.

Now tell me is deliberately doing a variety of things to break the law going to aid adoption ?
Of course not..
You need the govt's approval to go hand & hand with the existing financial world.
If the two worlds are separate and can never reach each other unless there is arrests then you will not have any adoption.. nor snazzy little Poloniex coin prices to FAP over either.

Don't feed me childish little crypto-rebel teen angst ideology that crypto is about sticking it to the man.
Grow the fuck up.
It's about being realistic and getting results.. not chanting one day while picking a fucking god damn war with the US govt like an idiot.

You Monero tard's were oh so proud of your recent Dark Market adoption news you spammed this forum about remember ?

Oh yeah ? Google says..

Quote
Firms must comply with the Bank Secrecy Act and its implementing regulations ("Anti-Money Laundering rules"). The purpose of the AML rules is to help detect and report suspicious activity including the predicate offenses to money laundering and terrorist financing, such as securities fraud and market manipulation.

So uhhh kids.. little children.. you know better huh ?
2698  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How to find out a legit ICO? on: January 12, 2017, 09:47:58 PM
Buy ICO coins.. if you profit then it's legit otherwise it's a scam.
It has nothing to do with how they work so don't pay any attention to that FUD.
2699  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [Poll] Do you think Zcash price will cross 100 USD in 2017? on: January 12, 2017, 09:45:08 PM
Read the sticky notes in this forum section in giant bold letters.  Roll Eyes
2700  Other / Off-topic / [Survey] Flu Shots on: January 12, 2017, 06:11:23 PM
So i made a comment on Disqus saying i refused to get any shots since i was a kid..
It got me thinking.. what do MOST people think ? Yes or No ?

With out getting into why and the obligatory conspiracies i suspect there is negative effects and i am prone to getting them with medical stuff.

Anyone else refuse to get them too ?
I have got some i think twice as a little kid but i am 41 now and won't let them stick needles in me.

Obviously the risk is a major FLU attack that could potentially kill me.
And i do recognize i may be putting the public at danger by being an easier carrier of the FLU.

Any thoughts ? Vote on Poll ?

I voted Maybe depending on the person.
Some people may get a lot of negative side effects etc.
So if you don't or don't care then i would vote yes.. otherwise NO.
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