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2681  Local / Альтернативные криптовалюты / Re: Халвинг Лайткоинга, чего ожидать on: August 14, 2019, 07:34:11 AM
Все-таки лайткоин должны очень хорошо пропампить не по экономическим причинам, а чтобы показать как это будет для холдеров биткоина. Ведь скоро и у первой криптовалюты халвинг, а это значит надо заинтересовать хомяков.
Как мы все видели памп был смешным, всего каких то 15% и халвинг нам не дал больших результатов, а сейчас монета вообще торгуется ниже 85$
Сейчас можно прикупить монету,цена очень сладкая но не забываем что рынок не предсказуем Shocked

памп был на ожиданиях халвинга и рост с 25(вроде) до 140 довольно неплохой результат
начинаю после отката понемногу втаривать лайт, судя по графику прошлого халвинга, должен медленно но верно к битку расти, если не случится чего-нибудь непредвиденного

22 был минимальный ценник на Фениксе и Эксме

Я еще с дуру пару лайтов на рубли зачем-то поменял на самых низах, а откупиться на Фениксе уже не успел. А так в целом согласен. Коварные пампы лайта случались и в прошлом (и по битку и по доллару) и не произошло ничего такого, чтобы исключить их в будущем. Даже богом забытые и практически никому ненужные доги и те время от времени пампят. С учетом того, что сокращение награды за блок сейчас станет сказываться все сильнее и сильнее на предложении лайтов, после дампа стоит ожидать очередной брутальный памп этой монеты - это всего лишь вопрос времени и терпения
2682  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Bull Break Above $11k And Falling Wedge on: August 13, 2019, 04:55:25 PM
The bitcoin bulls have done it again with a huge bull break above the $11000 level, the $11085 daily resistance and the falling wedge on the weekly chart. This is a huge achievement for the bulls and although the volume isn’t too great, it doesn’t really matter at this point. The price is no way above the daily EMA’s which have crossed bullish.

This price increase really was incredible, but it is not easy to overcome the support it has at $12000. several times whenever the price is above $12000 it does not take long for it to fall below $12000

You probably meant resistance, right?

Regardless, Bitcoin entered, let's call it, no-man's land, an area where there is not enough supply as well as demand to stabilize prices at their current levels above 10k. Hence we see the levels of volatility that we haven't seen with Bitcoin since 2017. The practical importance of this phenomenon is that we are unlikely to surge way above recent highs and stay there. On the other hand, there seems to be real support (yeah) piled up at 9k, so why not ride these waves of volatility while they last?
2683  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: if you want to win big...accept defeat on: August 13, 2019, 01:05:29 PM
~ I accept all my failures in life including in gambling, and started over again i'm happy enough for this.

There is a big difference between accepting your failures in life and starting over again and doing the same in gambling. And the difference is there already when you are only planning to start your activity. It would be ridiculous to think in advance that you will fail with almost any of our daily life activities, but in gambling this kind of thinking is generally considered the most correct one

I think we in fact fail in planning most of our daily activities. And that's not because we are so bad planners ourselves but rather because we are living in a fantasy world created by our imagination where things are not what they really are. It just so happens that the mistakes we make in real life can be easily fixed in a semi-automatic way without a lot of thinking and contemplating. They don't lead to massive financial losses, either. That's why we don't particularly care about them, so they mostly go unnoticed by us

But gambling (as well as trading, for the record) is totally different in this respect
2684  Economy / Economics / Re: Money Is Political, Not Technical on: August 13, 2019, 11:58:53 AM
Money has always been a tool of politics first, and then the economy. So the invited elite of society always went into politics primarily in order to strengthen their economic, that is, financial position. On the whole, the issue of issuing money has always been under the exclusive jurisdiction of the state. Who controlled the issue of issuing money, he had real political power. Therefore, one should not be surprised if states continue to tighten the rules for cryptocurrency circulation and try to control it.
Yes, it's true. Politics and money have always been and will be inextricably linked. The meaning of political decisions is usually almost always aimed at strengthening the economic condition of society or its individual groups. There is nothing surprising here. After all, we live in our rough physical world, where the economy determines politics, and not vice versa

I tend to disagree with this view

If anything, it is politicians who determine the economic policy of a country and ultimately its fate, not economists. Politics has the upper hand in the economic matters, and to prove that is in fact pretty easy. Most wars turn out an economic disaster for the belligerent countries (it has been so for millenia), while the questions of peace and war are in the hands of a few people who may not have a damn clue about economics and how the economy works. In other words, it remains to be seen whether political decisions are actually aimed at strengthening the economic conditions of a country as it may well be to the contrary
2685  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Anyone here have some strategy to gain money, but with low profits daily? on: August 13, 2019, 10:24:14 AM
I don't understand this part because, in my opinion, you are significantly increasing the chances of losing all your balance by such actions

As I've written above, there is a lot of in between

Indeed, you can be significantly increasing the chances of losing all. However, you can still play on a safer side while giving some leeway to variance in profit potential since, as you said yourself (and which I totally agree with), you are risking your whole balance anyway. So why not make this risk worth the effort (and your balance)? Well, at least a little bit worthier that just earning 1 satoshi at the end of each losing streak. Basically, we are having two extremes - one of earning the least possible (1 satoshi), the other of quickly losing the whole balance (10 BTC) in half a dozen bets

I agree with you. I had this feeling, and more than once actually, the feeling of regret that I didn't risk more in order to win much more in a certain period of time, instead of earning 1 satoshi in 3 seconds, on average, after hitting a killing losing streak after an hour of rolling. After you lose, you think any other strategy would be better. Smiley But, in fact, all of them are the same, regarding the probability of winning a certain amount within a certain period of time

You can think of it this way

For example, if you consider earning 1 satoshi on a 10 BTC balance a good deal and mostly safe irrespective of the losing streak length, then with a balance of 100 BTC and the losing streak of the same length (or keeping the chances of losing the same), you can change the martingale settings in such a way that you earn more than just 1 satoshi at the end of each streak

You can start with a smaller balance, of course, you just need to keep the probabilities of losing that balance the same as with earning 1 satoshi. But what's even more important here, your earnings will be the greater the farther you go along the losing streak before you roll a win. If you ask me, this is a by far better setup to run martingale, which doesn't increase the odds of losing (though it needs a bigger balance)
2686  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why do we need anonymity? on: August 13, 2019, 08:48:29 AM
It is Time to really embrace and push for decentralization, even the government must make sure that all their system are fully decentralized from even the voting system so that everything can be transparent, but the issue is who would push for this decentralized system? Expect we keep pushing it in the little way it has been which take lot of years before it will can creep into government system

But how are we going to do this in practice?

As the saying goes, you can't solve a problem relying on those who created it. But given how corrupt the current political landscape is (in any country of your choice), you wouldn't really expect the government to embrace decentralization, for example, in the voting system in order to make it completely transparent and "provably fair", so to speak. Elections are an instrument of power and they won't let it go

Further, those more powerful will always have more options available to them for making their financial transactions anonymous and keeping them that way. That's basically why they are against anonymity in general. It is only through someone more powerful who they were unlucky or unwise to lock horns with that their little financial shenanigans become known and publicized (read, it doesn't change anything in the bigger picture)
2687  Economy / Speculation / Re: How much Bitcoin to accumulate now to be financially set after the next boom? on: August 13, 2019, 07:36:59 AM
Even though fiat will no longer be that useful, but imagine that i satoshi becomes equivalent to 1 usd and I am able to accumulate about 100 million satoshis. my aim right now is to keep accumulating enough satoshi that I can accumulate before bitcoin supply become zero and then it will become very difficult and very expensive to have bitcoin by then

Essentially, you are hoping for a big fat free lunch, but why would anyone want to give you one? It is the same with other holders who hope that Bitcoin will miraculously surge to the moon in the future (like a few million dollars), and they will all become insanely rich one day for basically doing nothing

But as the (in)famous con artist of the first half of the 20th century, Joseph Weil (aka Yellow Kid), noted, "each of my victims had larceny in his heart" and "the desire to get something for nothing has been very costly to many people who have dealt with me and with other con men" (as per Wikipedia article)

So who is going to pay for the party?
2688  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: if you want to win big...accept defeat on: August 13, 2019, 06:31:42 AM
If you lose, don't do revenge gambling because it will give you more losses and will be more depressed if that happens Sad.
that only shows that you are weak and your saying that your easily giving up . tryin isnt wrong but it should also be moderated

Weak and wise look similar

Many wise people say that if you can't change something (e.g. your past and your past bets), your best option is not to hit the head against it (as you can as well hit it against a brick wall, with the same level of success) but to give in, accept the sad fact and move on. This is probably what OP meant by accepting defeat as there is essentially nothing you can do other than to embark on revengeful gambling which will only incur further losses
2689  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why are big leaders now opposing cryptocurrencies suddenly? on: August 12, 2019, 10:04:47 PM
One thing i know Trump is not entirely wrong about is the volatility of crypto, i mean we can all witness how the price will move upward or towards within a blink of an eye, but that doesn't stop many people to embrace the use of crypto which as mentioned is appearing to be a big treat to the government and some influential people, inspite all odds btc still standing strong and that is a sign of danger to 'em Cool

Why would Trump all of a sudden start to care about the volatility of cryptocurrencies?

There are enough assets which also have tremendous volatility and quite on par with crypto (like trash stocks). Even crude oil can be as volatile as fuck. There are financial instruments which are purely speculative, for example, volatility indexes, and they are named after volatility for a reason. Why nobody tells this dude about it? Or maybe, it is him who is not telling us the whole truth? But half-truths are often even worse than outright lies
2690  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling as a profession: there's people who live out of gambling? on: August 12, 2019, 09:13:18 PM
I am aware there a lot of professional gamblers but I believe gambling is not their only source of income but once people see that they are rich, they just assume it’s all from gambling. Gambling can actually earn very good money but it might take so long before this money comes in, and before then a lot would have been lost to the game. i don’t advise anyone to have gambling as a profession, it’s better to ignore the big names or rich gamblers we hear or read of and focus on gambling for fun

I generally support this view

But with a small reservation, though. More specifically, if you like a certain game which requires skill along with luck (a lot of such games have been mentioned in this thread), that may turn out to be your true calling. If you feel that way, you should certainly stick to your liking, and one day you will be able to make a living out of it. People become chess champions not because they want money (though money definitely plays an important role here) but because they happen to like chess before anything else - unless you are one of the Polgar sisters, of course (who were forced to play chess by their headstrong farther)
2691  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: All Hail King Bitcoin: Why BTC Remains #1 on: August 12, 2019, 04:53:37 PM
This was always the trend until 2019, when now BTC is rising but altcoins, for the first time, are not keeping up. That's because in 2017, people placed too much confidence in the future of altcoins, in 2019 we are more skeptical, and wiser

There are visible holes in your theory

As it doesn't explain why we actually saw major altcoins surge way stronger and faster than Bitcoin just after the latter had started to recover in early 2019 (i.e. this year, not 2017). I'm not even talking about Litecoin here with its monumental gains (as I have already mentioned it earlier), but other major altcoins easily outperformed Bitcoin too at first (and their 2019 gains are still not broken by Bitcoin). For example, Bitcoin Cash rose from below 100 dollars to over 550 (which is a 5.5x gain, for starters), Ethereum rose from 100 dollars to over 360 (quite on par with Bitcoin)

But there is a very simple explanation which I already hinted at here and elsewhere. The truth is, there is actually no such thing as lack of confidence in the future of altcoins, there is only lack of pump, which Bitcoin enjoyed till recently (and hopefully, will continue to enjoy in the future), while major players in the altcoin field enjoyed it earlier this year and are now being dumped. There is no reason to think that things are going to remain this way in the future simply because all cryptocurrencies including Bitcoin are pure speculation
2692  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Anyone here have some strategy to gain money, but with low profits daily? on: August 12, 2019, 01:08:55 PM
I don't understand this part because, in my opinion, you are significantly increasing the chances of losing all your balance by such actions

As I've written above, there is a lot of in between

Indeed, you can be significantly increasing the chances of losing all. However, you can still play on a safer side while giving some leeway to variance in profit potential since, as you said yourself (and which I totally agree with), you are risking your whole balance anyway. So why not make this risk worth the effort (and your balance)? Well, at least a little bit worthier that just earning 1 satoshi at the end of each losing streak. Basically, we are having two extremes - one of earning the least possible (1 satoshi), the other of quickly losing the whole balance (10 BTC) in half a dozen bets
2693  Economy / Gambling / Re: WOLF.BET - Provably fair dice game Wager contest 7-day streak bonus on: August 12, 2019, 09:26:50 AM
This is business so there is no way to have an easy way here, all that you need to do is have a unique game, design and everything that makes you difference from other sites. This is actually not that easy to claim all of these things, it needs a lot of dedications to make all this thing comes through. I agreed that every single codes is already out there but still you need to manage the design and the games as well to make players happy
Life is neither easy nor building a successful casino in the highly competitive industry. It is difficult to build up unique games for new platforms, too. I do agree with you that unique games play important roles for success of any site; but I think that there are other important factors for young sites. At first, they have to had user friendly interface, next smoothly operations (as little lags as possible); and if sites can provide good experience for gamblers whom play on mobile devices, it is another plust point, too. Promotions are necessary for success in the long run of casinos

That's why they started their signature campaign here early on

And that's why it doesn't make a lot of sense to stop it now only to restart it later in a couple of weeks (as what seems to be the casino's intention with their signature campaign). In fact, this matter had been discussed at lengths in the past, and the consensus has it a new casino, mixer or exchange need constant presence, month after month, in order to make their name known and recognized as well as to attract new clients as is the case with major players in the respective fields (ChipMixer, FortuneJack, CryptoGames, etc) which run their promotions for years on end
2694  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin or LTC ? on: August 12, 2019, 08:31:42 AM
Hye, please don't think it is an investment advice, but as a short term trader, I am just asking from you based on your own market research that as whenever BTC flies to moon, Altcoins dump. So based on your speculation in the current market scenario in which Altcoin we should trade ?
If you only have a dust of amount of Bitcoin, then short term is not a good idea. Just imagine getting $1 from your $1000 capital, with huge chance of loss is almost $50. That thing is not worth to risk, would rather to throw away your money into altcoin which is volatile compared to Bitcoin this time

I'm not sure I understand what you refer to here

Okay, you have a capital of 1000 dollars, and what exactly prevents you from successfully trading this capital with Bitcoin? How could you lose 50 dollars with Bitcoin and not lose it with some altcoin? Somehow, I have a feeling that you are actually talking about gambling, not trading. Apart from that, Bitcoin has recently shown quite a good amount of volatility on par with or even exceeding major altcoins. But perhaps I'm just missing something and you would like to expand on your thought a little further
2695  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Andy Ruiz vs Anthony Joshua II on: August 12, 2019, 07:41:19 AM
Would history repeat itself? Well, this is a December match for the heavyweight titles, Anthony Joshua needs to redeem himself on winning this fight if he can not win this up it is a game over for him challenging Andy Ruiz again, We can see that both fighters both have 1 loss"If he did it once, he can do it again." with Andy Ruiz that have given Joshua his loss, I guess even if Anthony Joshua had an exceptional strength with his punches Andy Ruiz will just shove him with his defense and he can not let his guard down even though he once defeated Joshua, And Anthony Joshua in the other hand should make his efforts double in this rematch he may never know even though Ruiz winning was only a fluke he could still lose in this match,

I have seen an article about Mike Tyson predicting the match for Andy Ruiz and Anthony Joshua and he quoted "If he did it once, he can do it again."
I guess Tyson is really in favor with Ruiz,

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxing/mike-tyson-makes-prediction-anthony-18856306

Tyson and Ruiz have extremely similar styles because of their physical builts. Tyson always said that he found being shorter with shorter arms a net positive when dealing wih those towers. Because of the center of gravity being lower, Tyson was able to use his weight from the inside and punish the opponent's body in grueling ways

I also remember him saying that

But I think it is more because the majority of his first fights were with opponents being mostly journeymen and their likes. As soon as he encountered real competition with guys having a far wider reach and who were able to keep him at bay at all times (think Evander Holyfield here with his almost 2m reach, not even speaking of Lennox Lewis), this tactic was no longer available, quite literally, as he couldn't get in close ranges and use his power "from inside" with these boxers
2696  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Anyone here have some strategy to gain money, but with low profits daily? on: August 11, 2019, 09:34:17 PM
It is clear no one here makes even tiny profit on daily basis. They are probably very few if they atall exist. But it is possible that many are making regular/consistent profits which is not necessarily a daily profit
It’s not even possible for ANYONE TO MAKE DAILY PROFITS FROM GAMBLING. This is my 8 year gambling I can say that I have not seen or met anyone who has boasted of making money daily, if there is, I am sure the player is only trying to deceive others, gambling is not some place one can be confident to make money on regular bases  regardless the strategy applied because of the nature

I agree it is impossible to make decent daily profits in gambling

But that's mostly because major casinos have installed artificial barriers to that and not because it is impossible in itself. If you have a few thousands of bitcoins, you could have earned pretty handsome amount daily using safe settings for martingale if the casino hadn't set their limits on the max bet amount equal to just a few bitcoins. Thus you won't be able to earn anything but dust if you take into account this limitation (and definitely not with Bitcoin)
2697  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Martingale revisited on: August 11, 2019, 08:43:45 PM
Well the risk in martingale to me is that you have much space to believe you are doing good in trade but that's not true if eventually you keep losing but if you are always in winning side, you can't feel it.

Martingale is only suited to us if have a big balance in our account. If we have small balance then we may be liquidated after few consecutive loss.
The more the money we have in the balance (bankroll), the more longer we can take the Martingale strategy and avoid the loss.

That is exactly what we should not do.If we have a really big balance it means we have enough money so why lose it on Martingale or any other non working gambling strategy.Martingale it doesn't work by default,you need an infinite balance which is not realistic.

I think the needed balance depends on how you will use martingale and when you are planning to stop.   Though it is said that Martingale is for someone who have unlimited bankroll, but the problem is no one have unlimited bankroll.  Even those who have huge fund is more probably to end losing since martingale bet grows exponentially every time we lose a roll.  Often times due to house edge, we suffer consecutive loses which can possibly exhaust our bankroll using the martingale method.

This is a good read from wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martingale_(betting_system), which enable us to know that there is a 0% success in martingale if we play continuously.  Reason, limited bankroll plus exponential increase of bet when we lose

This is not the whole story

If your balance grows fast enough, your losing streak will grow too (all other settings being the same obviously). The latter means that you don't in fact need an infinite balance, it just needs to be growing so that your chances of losing your balance are decreasing with time. Further, you are unlikely to bet indefinitely long and that also turns in your favor. It doesn't mean that you can't lose because whether you will actually lose or not cannot be known in advance
2698  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin or LTC ? on: August 11, 2019, 05:34:04 PM
Anyone, Know about the attack chain of Litecoin?

I see at facebook, forget about which group i see they share to there Litecoin got a chain attack on the chain. It's that really valid news or just a rumor fud

You seem to have gotten it wrong

What really happened was a so-called dusting attack, i.e. someone sending small amounts of lites (in this case it was 0.00000546 LTC) to some wallets (probably with a rich transactional history). The purpose of the attack is not to compromise the blockchain itself (like what the 51% attack is supposed to do) but rather track down certain users and their transactional activity on the blockchain. I don't know how it is meant to work in practice, so anyone more knowledgeable is welcome to chime in on this matter
2699  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I've lost on: August 11, 2019, 03:49:06 PM
He was shocked to know his invesment down 3 times than he bought. That's why he was tried to risk all of his bitcoin to earn 3 times so he will break even. He was too greedy rather than can't afford to lose

Yeah, it is easy to be wise after the event

But let's try walking in OP's shoes for a moment. Bitcoin lost two thirds of its price (i.e. of the price at which OP bought his coins) with the overall market sentiment being monumentally pessimistic, while some "analysts" predicting Bitcoin should crash below 1k in a couple of months if not weeks. So from this perspective, he had essentially nothing to lose as he probably felt that Bitcoin was set to fall lower but if he had luck on his side, he would have gotten back his investment (in dollar terms)

I don't necessarily say or imply that it was not a rash act in itself as it certainly was (in hindsight, of course), but if we consider the possibility that Bitcoin was actually to lose another 90% of its remaining value (I mean, for real), that move kinda makes sense
2700  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin’s Price May Be Building for a Move Back Above $11K on: August 11, 2019, 02:32:50 PM
After hitting $12,200, it wen't back to $11,500 same day. Fortunately I was able to unload some of my coins that I bought last July 30 only at $9,905. I am still hoping that this trend will continue as my strategy is to buy some and sell some. 2% to 3% profits per day is good enough for me, not waiting for the bull run.

this is a day trading strategy, and while it is good but it is only suitable for those who want to accumulate more fiat because in bitcoin, the price always goes up. so while you are trying to make these small profits from the short term fluctuations, at some point you will end up selling and waiting for the price to come back down to buy back but the price shoots up and you will have to buy at a loss (meaning buy less bitcoin that you could afford before). which is why it will only work if you mean to accumulate more fiat

But this is definitely not what day trading is about

Day trading is not about selling and buying after reaching a certain percentage of upward or downward price change. Most importantly, it is about riding the wave which means trying to sell at its peak and buy at its bottom. Indeed, you can't always time the market in this way, but if you make a mistake and misjudge the market, you buy back or sell forth immediately (the latter is also known as a stop-loss)

In other words, day trading done right is more complicated or even sophisticated than most people think of it. What you refer to as a day trading strategy here is correctly called averaging up or down, but that's not day trading (read, it is a different approach to making profits)
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