Are there any plans to upgrade to a minirig SC?
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I'd rather have silver because the value of Silver remains the same however the value of Bitcoins are changing. Not sure I follow. Both silver and BTC are fairly volatile investments in terms of FRNs. I have both and I like them equally. Forced to choose which to put fiat into right at this time I'd choose BTC, largely because I have more into AG, but also because I have some investments I'd like to capitalize.
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..In general tom is not telling the whole truth - personal opinion...That is all Clearly, and he's lost some customers because of it. At least two of the three major developers of ASIC products for sale in the near future have withheld information at best and lied at worst. Interesting times ahead. Avalon has been the only manufacturer to remain above the fray and that's in jeopardy as mud slinging ramps up and their own release date approaches. Avalon has participated in the mudslinging though. What I'm sayin'.
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FTFY. It's called a lock-in. The same thing happens in marriage. ...and ending it means someone gets half your sh1t. ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif)
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The main cause of delays is initial optimism - BFL is doing this from scratch, so it's even more of a challenge. Ah the ole ASICs is HARD excuse...think it's played out. FPGAs was HARD too, resulting in delays. Perhaps BFL should design something easy, some nice flowerpots for instance. Sure they could collect zero interest loans in April and...ah never mind. ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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..In general tom is not telling the whole truth - personal opinion...That is all Clearly, and he's lost some customers because of it. At least two of the three major developers of ASIC products for sale in the near future have withheld information at best and lied at worst. Interesting times ahead. Avalon has been the only manufacturer to remain above the fray and that's in jeopardy as mud slinging ramps up and their own release date approaches.
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Actually I think the darkest days are in the rear view for bASIC, but time will tell. Recent posts have been far more encouraging and detailed.
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Probably several. Anything critical of BFL is a "troll thread" according to the BFL ringleader.
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BFL_Josh might just as well have said...yeah we expect Avalon to be first and eat our appetizer, though we're still on track to have a portion of our own lunch at some point. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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Why collect 100% of the cost of pre-order units so many months in advance then? Why not a 10 - 20% earnest deposit? That would've given the company an accurate measure of demand and protected them from unfunded commitments. Are these funds just sitting under a mattress or collecting interest somewhere? The whole thing is just shady and unprofessional, and yes I'm aware other companies have done this too, though I do not believe any of them have sat on other people's money for such an extended time frame.
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Inaba, I didn't know a new site was in the works. I have a problem with the "see point one." It has caused me to go into an endless loop because when I am done with point two, I then read point one again and have to continue to point two. It makes me really aware of how much you loathe Wordpress though. Mission accomplished then! ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) One less person asking tough questions, like why can't this company ever seem to ship anything without multiple delays?
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You're doing a great job with this asset Garr. Count me in for a few shares. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Lol I give you a very valid point about an advantage BFL has over their competitors, and you dismiss it because of a separate, totally unrelated disadvantage they have. I don't know how company morality has anything to do with PSU build quality and warranty status?
I have made it clear that I think BFL is the better product. However, that does not mean they are better IN EVERY WAY. I still concede that the bASIC has some very nice perks going for it, mainly that crazy price/performance ratio! However, you can't even give BFL one tiny nod of approval that hey have something that BTCASIC doesn't? A warranty is plainly no better than the company issuing it. I have no clue as to the quality of BFL's chosen PSUs...that's the problem. The only thing I like about BFL's product line is that it's estimated to use less power/Gh. Since they lied about power consumption with their FPGA products, I simply don't trust information coming from them. I certainly don't believe their entire ASIC product line from the modest Jalepeno to the Minirig SC will use precisely 1w/Gh, that's ridiculous. I'm surprised that so few here seem to hold BFL accountable for their countless deceptions, but they can vote with their FRNs/ BTCs and I'll vote with mine.
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Judge them by what they do, and that is issue refunds in a satisfactory manner. Not some website page written in an hour or twoto sound fancy.
Did you not notice the company's COO just mention that it was a CYA clause? CYA from what? Past performance is not a reliable indicator of future actions, though I doubt denying a refund to a pre-order customer when it's months late is legal and could potentially open a huge can of worms.
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Nothing coming from BFL means jack. Their products are delayed because they're defective...uh no they're not. They have no batches, but batch 1 will follow their convoluted 1/3 shipping schedule. You guys are right to be concerned about their future refund policy because this company's policies and explanations are consistently contradicted by their own staff.
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So you just assume that BFL will not use a cheap POS PSU for the units you purchase from them?
Ah, but the difference is that that POS PSU that BFL gives me is covered by BFL under the same warranty as the Single, for the entire duration that the Single is covered. My PSU blows up and destroys my miner? BFL gives me a new one. Good luck trying to convince Tom that he should give $3000+ worth of bASICs cuz your $30 PSU off TigerDirect fried 3 of your miners. No thanks, BFL is slow, dishonest, and unreliable. You could easily lose the cost of the ASIC unit in lost production while they d1ck you around about replacing it. Nah, I'll choose the PSU that I prefer and just use that and BFL can keep their cheap PSUs to themselves. We differ on this, and that's fine. You want things simple and cut & dry, and I want maximum flexibility & control.
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If it does not exist, does this mean it will take 6 to 8 weeks for you guys to get it done? No it means they'll say it will take 6 to 8 weeks to get it done, then update you on the non-progress 6 to 8 months later.
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It's as realistic as it gets. Opportunity cost is still a cost and had BFL shipped in October you'd be sitting pretty right now with a paid off ASIC, but they screwed you on that one too. Don't worry though it wasn't their fault, it was those damn clock buffers.
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So you just assume that BFL will not use a cheap POS PSU for the units you purchase from them?
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I was wondering about that reply. BFL has more exeperience creating ASIC devices? I call BS. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Maybe they're referring to hiring someone, either as an employee or a contractor, who has experience making ASICs. That's not what it says, and if that IS the case then they should fire that person immediately...they've failed.
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