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2681  Local / Hors-sujet / Re: J'ai maintenant un doute sur cette fameuse carte on: July 06, 2020, 07:54:27 PM
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- Price 950 EUR per year/800 EUR extension
Peux tu nous confirmer ?
Pour le coût de 950 tu as combien en solde ?

Puis qu'est ce qui t'as fait aller tester un truc aussi chélou ??  Huh

Pour le compte-banque lié tu as accès à quel genre de services ? (Y à t-il un nom dessus ??)




950€ c'est juste le cout du service, il n'y a pas de solde, c'est à l'utilisateur de recharger le solde en passant par un échangeur (enfin si y'a l'équivalent de 2€ je crois)
Le cout peut paraitre cher mais en fait pas vraiment, c'est relatif, l'anonymat a un prix et c'est pas le genre de truc que tu utilise pour retirer 2000 à l'année

Les cartes anonymes c'est ce qu'on recherchait tous à l'époque, avant la chute de WaveCrest. Disons que j'en avais une réelle utilisation, c'est mieux que de se taper 2 heures de routes pour aller jusqu'a Paris pour vendre du BTC et se trimballer avec 5000€ cacher dans le calecon

Au niveau service, tu as un compte en banque en RUB (avec un sous compte en USD et EUR, tu peux faire des swaps entre eux) avec une carte Visa en RUB et une carte SIM anonyme (que tu recharge toi même avec du bitcoin) pour recevoir des codes quand tu fais des achats ou autre


guigui371
Merci, je pense que je ne vais pas l'utiliser finalement
2682  Local / Économie et spéculation / Re: Opinion: la La fin du Dollars est pour 2020 on: July 06, 2020, 06:59:15 PM
L'ignard continue ses strawman. Bien lui en fait.

Je n'ai pas de haine des individus, je dis que la société française est malade, y a une différence. De manière objective ça se justifie. La wallonie voisine n'est pas forcément mieux lotie.

Alors je dis le board fr, parce que tout ce qui se passe da's la section "économie" est quasiment tjs du même ton: crash, collapso, dette, crise, fin de l'euro, fin du dollar (sans comprendre que c'est paradoxale Smiley) bref tout le patapouf goldbug vu et revu. Y'a jamais rien d'optimiste qui est lancé en thread ici. Et ça fait des années que les initiateurs se plantent sans jamais se remettre en question.

En même temps en étant sur un forum relatif au Bitcoin c'est un peu normal que tu y retrouves ce genre de mentalité (dette-crise-gold-crash-...) Tu la retrouverais également si la bande à Jovanovic avait un forum. Sur un forum dédié à la bourse tu y trouverais une autre mentalité et sur un forum dédié à l'immobilier encore une autre.


Après, comme j'aime pensé, faut apprendre à écouter les arguments de tout le monde, même ceux avec qui je ne suis pas d'accord. Mais tu verras toujours des gens qui pensent tout savoir, pseudo expert en économie sur un forum, manutentionnaire en réalité
2683  Local / Hors-sujet / Re: J'ai maintenant un doute sur cette fameuse carte on: July 05, 2020, 06:49:38 PM
municipale, je me suis trompé.

L'autre point est que ce compte bancaire russe (attaché donc à cette carte) a été créée avec un VPN d'Autriche (d'après les instructions).
Au départ il était dit que la personne était consente pour l'ouverture d'un compte en banque en son nom (comme un Trustee quoi). Mais si c’était le cas je ne vois pas trop pourquoi avoir besoin d'utiliser un VPN pour créer un compte en banque.

J'ai ensuite commencé à me poser la question si peut être la personne n’était tout simplement pas au courant qu'un compte était ouvert a son nom (vol d'identité ou je ne sais quoi) ou ne l'a pas créer elle même. Mais de toute facon quand tu utilises un VPN c'est que cherche a contourner quelque chose.
2684  Economy / Economics / Re: How Corona Virus changes our markets (with picture and charts) on: July 05, 2020, 04:26:56 PM
...

No need to wait the winter, see yourself how many places around the globe already decided for a new stay at home order. Many companies were in agony during a 3-months period so imagine after 6 months.
Many more companies will find it hard to keep up, less employment, less gross domestic product, and the snowball effect continues.


I was talking about an economic crisis, like all others here debating about the economy and not a health crisis or a medical crisis or whatever. The number of deaths and your long post doesn't matter
2685  Local / Hors-sujet / J'ai maintenant un doute sur cette fameuse carte on: July 05, 2020, 04:00:15 PM
On m'avait proposé d'essayer une carte CB sur ce forum
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5244746.0

Même en temps de confinement la lettre a mis beaucoup de temps pour arriver (de Bielorussie) 1 mois et demi, beaucoup plus long que cela n'aurait du

Je me suis aperçu que la lettre n'a pas été délivrée par la factrice, bien bonne, mais par le mec de la police nationale.municipale

J' habite à la campagne depuis le début de l'année Cheesy, y'a pas de police et pas gendarmerie Grin, y'a juste 1 mec de la nationale municipale qui fout pas grande à part poster des lettres à la poste, distribuer des enveloppes aux commerçants, je l'ai jamais vu foutre autre chose. Je crois qu'il fait office de garde champêtre, en tout cas pas de ronde en voiture et tout le tra la la.

J'ai maintenant un doute sur cette fameuse carte, surtout qu'il y a un autre truc pas tres catholique
2686  Local / Hors-sujet / Re: Mon oeuvre d'art 👍 on: July 05, 2020, 02:31:43 PM
Oui il le sera toujours mais il sera supprimé directement, étant donné qu'il n'a pas sa place en Meta, les modérateurs le supprimeront. Au mieux le remettra en partie française mais tu aurais vraiment de la chance dans ce cas.
Désolé si ce n'est pas la personne attendue qui te répond Smiley

edit: ah non tu peux pas avoir de topic self moderated en Meta, désolé
2687  Local / Le Bitcoin et la loi / Re: avocat fiscalist pour société trading bitcoin/altcoin sur paris on: July 05, 2020, 02:08:13 PM
Je ne sais pas si vous vous rendez compte que vous répondez à un topic vieux de presque 3 ans à des questions/sujet dont la personne a certainement déjà eu sa réponse et qui plus est, est inactive depuis plusieurs mois.

Autrement dit aucune utilité et c'est pas très bien vu (le necro-posting est souvent effacé)
2688  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: How to advertise cryptocurrency exchange platform? on: July 03, 2020, 05:33:16 PM
Sponsored and guest blog posts can also help. All that matters is your marketing budget.
Also, don't forget to work on ORM and to make use of SMM, especially with platforms like Twitter and Youtube in which most cryptocurrencies users like crawling. It could be by doing an advertising campaign on Twitter, get a video review on YT...

Increase your social presence, broadly speaking. Forget Facebook, it's full of low information voters. You can use it for your profile but don't waste resources on it
2689  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Atibuxer scam??see this massages on: July 03, 2020, 04:54:27 PM
A paid to click website  Cheesy Where people are clicking on ads for 0.0001$ to watch a 30-sec advertisement
99.9% of them are/become a scam after some time, yet people continue to click for pennies!

Archiving the website link is useless by the way

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send massage about your experience

It's a message, not a massage
2690  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What constitutes a crypto exchanges? on: July 03, 2020, 04:16:43 PM
I wouldn't call such websites an exchange platform. You're just a seller, selling a token to allow the users to vote on the DApp. The main activity of your site isn't exchanging, it's selling.

Otherwise, we could call Badoo an exchange platform because you can deposit money to buy their token and then be allowed to vote for the hottest females there
2691  Local / Hors-sujet / Re: Coronavirus on: July 02, 2020, 04:40:50 PM
Vous avez remarqué qu'il y a de plus en plus de villes qui ont décidé de confiner à nouveau? Et maintenant la France qui demande aux entreprises d'avoir un stock de masques pour 10 semaines.

Ils vont nous laisser tranquille vu que c'est les vacances pour pas que les gens gueulent et à la rentrée ils vont vous confiner encore
Aux US, 50 000 nouveaux cas en 24h hier, et un nouveau virus de porc qui apparait en plus.
2692  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Jeff Bezos and Bitcoin on: July 02, 2020, 04:12:15 PM
I suppose @OP was referring to the trading fees (not to spend). Let's imagine him converting his fortune ($175 billion) to bitcoins with a 0.15% FX fee, that would be $~250 million
Buy from me, Jeff!!!

@Twentyonepaylots

Amazon capitalized mainly on people's purchasing habits which changed when they turned to e-commerce during the stay at home order (without considering AWS and subscribers). Now the company is surely hoping the habits become permanent
2693  Other / Off-topic / Re: Can I send money from UK Amazon account to another person into USA Amazon ? on: July 02, 2020, 02:42:01 PM
As far as I know, nope you can't. The account receiving the code needs to be located in the same country.
However, you can live in the UK and buy something (if eligible, not everything) from the Amazon.com platform (with the same account credential) with AmazonGlobal.

I have already bought on Amazon.de while I have Amazon.fr

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Amazon.co.uk Gift Cards can only be redeemed on Amazon.co.uk. To redeem on other Amazon websites, you can purchase gift cards on the respective sites
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According to the Amazon.com gift card terms and conditions, an Amazon.com gift card is only redeemable toward the purchase of products on Amazon.com. Similarly, an Amazon.co.uk gift card is only redeemable on the Amazon.co.uk website. ... So you cannot use an Amazon.com gift card on one of their international websites.
2694  Economy / Economics / Re: How Corona Virus changes our markets (with picture and charts) on: July 02, 2020, 02:02:18 PM

I took the USA as an example since the elections are coming soon, so the example is more obvious. I could have taken my country too (or another) knowing that the elections are coming in 1-2 years.
What I meant to say is that the argument is valid for any country where the president would seek to be elected again.

I don't know in which you live but, what did your government do especially for the economy? Certainly like many other countries where the central bank has (still) printed banknotes. But you will have to pay this money since it doesn't come out of the sky. How is your government going to do it? Raise taxes, reduce subsidies, which means that your citizens will have less aid, less purchasing power, etc.

The middle class is really going to suffer. It's a matter of weeks. I'm a total idiot by the way, I should have bought more gold, the good news is I can only blame myself.

As @extasie say, we can't see the results immediately, personally I think we will have to wait maybe 2 or 3 years to make our own opinion.

Also, I don't know what you mean when you say that the world is "joining together", using new technologies (which tech do you think about?).
On the contrary, countries are "fighting" each other. Between some countries that steal masks from each other was a very good example. Or in Europe, where countries are fighting over who will pay for the masks. (great European Union by the way)

2695  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2020-06-23] PayPal Rumors Push Bitcoin Higher as On-Chain Transactions Surge on: July 01, 2020, 05:27:55 PM
Paypal is known because you can make an account and make money transactions with just an email.
You have to be verified so that you can spend the money that was transferred to you and that means you are required to submit additional information.
We only ask you for essential information when you sign up to PayPal, but as you transact with us we're under a legal obligation to know more about you. When you verify your account you're proving that you own the financial details added to your account.

To get verified, go to your account to add and confirm your bank account or, if you prefer, add and confirm your debit or credit card.

It's still unknown how they will integrate crypto with their business.

Not even true, you're twisting a potential problem @Naida_BR was talking about, and making it unrelated.

You don't need to be verified to spend the money you received. Being unverified you can of course spend it as you wish at any merchant. And the method you posted doesn't even ask additional information by the way. When you link your bank account or debit card, you receive a code on your bank statement. And you need to copy the code to your Paypal account.

Is that what you're calling submitting additional information ?!?
2696  Economy / Economics / Re: How Corona Virus changes our markets (with picture and charts) on: July 01, 2020, 04:59:47 PM
If the economy is protected why are there several companies announcing either bankrupt or lay off thousands of people

Well, that's the cost. You can look at this either the good way or the bad way. The economy is a big picture and you can not judge it with a few people within. Just wait and see how the world will fight against this crisis. remember that after every crisis, the world always becomes a better place with new tech, new markets, and new ways of living. People always evolve, not in their physical body but in their mindset

According to Guardian:

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"About 100,000 small businesses are projected to have permanently shut their doors since the coronavirus outbreak was declared in March, according to a new study from economists at the University of Illinois, Harvard University and the University of Chicago.[...] there are about 30.2m small businesses in the US, of which 5.9m actually have employees. So although 100,000 firms going out of business is a sad thing, it could be considered a relatively small number – 0.3% of all businesses, or less than 2% of all employer-owned firms"

Yes, sure the cost as you say. The cost at the expense of citizens but for the benefit of businesses. The same companies that received billions in state aid recently and a week later announce massive layoffs, despite the fact that the benefits are still there for some, even increasing compared to 2019.
How crazy is that economic policy? So it's like saying, the government takes your money to give it to companies and once they got your money they fire people. Cheesy

What a wonderful state

Where will all this money come from, but above all who will have to pay? It's still us the citizens, when governments will have no choice but to raise taxes. Of course, that will not happen soon, probably in two or three years, I don't know. For example, in the USA, they are not crazy enough to raise taxes in the run-up to the presidential elections. It will be done afterward to avoid that the people turn away from a positive vote...

I know in Europe they are thinking about a new tax for GAFA and also to tax polluting countries on their imports such as China for example. What's going to happen? Some products will increase, China is not going to bother with that. Who will pay for this increase? Us, again.

The global economy prepares for the worst recession, with more than 10% for some countries, To compare in 2008-2009, the world recession considered the worst was 0.1% (if I'm correct on the numbers).
2697  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Give necessary tips for using Exness platform. on: July 01, 2020, 04:24:34 PM
It doesn't show Bitcoin as a deposit and withdraw funds option https://www.exness.uk/deposit_operations/
I haven't see unlimited leverage, the highest was 30 IIRC. Not sure what tip are you looking specifically, CFD on FX is considered very risky and a lot of people jump on it without understand the product

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71.67% of retail investor accounts lose money when trading CFDs with this provider.
2698  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is it possible to check on which account the AMAZON code was used ??? (SCAM..) on: July 01, 2020, 11:54:14 AM
Nope, there is no way to check it. It's been a long time since I've done this, but before you could check the validity of the code before adding it to your account (so you could have made a screenshot showing it's valid before selling it and the buyer couldn't have said otherwise).

And there's no point in contacting Amazon to ask them because they won't be able to give you an answer (unless you report it to the police)...
They will tell you they're not responsible for codes stolen, lost, etc...

However, the country is easy to guess, if it's a .com voucher it can only be used in The US, a .fr voucher can only be used in France and so on.
(You can not buy an Amazon.com voucher and use it on Amazon.fr if I'm correct)
2699  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2020-06-23] PayPal Rumors Push Bitcoin Higher as On-Chain Transactions Surge on: July 01, 2020, 11:22:04 AM
...

What additional information would I need to open an account? Users could use their email as well to make a BTC transaction, (without asking for anything else, it's not something so difficult to add). In the same way, you can send or receive different currencies with the same email.

Even if Paypal asks for additional information (imagine something related to BTC, an address, or whatever) the company cannot force people if they are not planning to use Bitcoin.

It's really not something that would cause Paypal to lose customers.
2700  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: 👑 NEXO - Instant Crypto-backed Loans. 100% Approval, No Credit Checks! 👑 on: June 30, 2020, 09:51:35 PM
And the purpose of this thread is.... what? We all know about nexo and many other platforms.

Easy to guess if you check his/her posts history. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2759773;sa=showPosts
You'll notice that the user always and only talks about Nexo all the time.

It's a flag showing that this person is part of the staff or is paid to promote/spam the platform. It's up to you if you see it as a red or green pill. Personally I don't really like disguised promotion (I'd prefer to make it clear at the beginning and not discovering myself after digging). and it even tends to make me avoid the service.
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