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2681  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What if crypto mining is outlawed ? on: February 07, 2022, 05:50:20 AM
Do you see this as a potential threat or did the fud get in my head?
Probably just in your head OP? I mean yes, some countries are banning it, but I don't think it's something necessarily other countries would also follow? That is unless crypto mining was seen as a universal evil or something. Additionally, you'd see people still doing it on their home computers or something, just like how it was initially. Hardly doubt countries banning them would actually do anything to people who still want to mine. Plus, mining groups could easily migrate to other countries if they needed to imo.
2682  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Casino KYC how it works and to what effect on: February 07, 2022, 12:47:28 AM
Realizing how negatively kyc is seen by many players mostly in cryptocurrency casinos players am confused what kyc does in a casino, why do some casino operators have kyc and others don't have. I email also a part of kyc because most casinos often than not request email. What are KYC's advantages and disadvantages.
It's not liked NOT just in cryptocurrency casinos, but in all crypto-related stuff. See, it completely goes against the concept of pseudo-anonymity that crypto (or at least, Bitcoin), is actually defined for. It's solely for the user's sake, in this case, for example, my sake, or my privacy to be exact. There are advantages for KYC, but it's mostly for the other side, so that they can guarantee that you're under the law and under the T&C, so that when anything pops up that you are liable for, they can easily find you. But well, in general, we're using cryptocurrency exactly because we don't want KYC, so what do you think most people would feel if casinos introduced KYC?
2683  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: stake.com- Does not have gambling responsibility on: February 05, 2022, 04:53:29 PM
Maybe, but why the fuck do sites even have that "Responsible Gaming" policy (and requisite emblem at the bottom) if they aren't going to do anything about it? This is 100% on Stake. It doesn't matter whether the guy would have gone elsewhere and lost his funds. The instant he selected to self exclude, that specific account should have been cut off. No ifs, ands or buts.

They say they care about Responsible Gaming because it makes them look good on the surface. But they don't care one bit.
Well, they do have the self-exclusion program, users just have to actually understand how it works you know? Most responsible programs and whatnot are prerequisites so most sites that have them have their own programs that let users have some method or way to stop themselves from gambling. It's not 100% on stake, it's 100% on the user instead.

Though tbf, I do agree with your statement. It's not that it's all (or it's stake specifically), but some gambling casinos only comply with the requirements but honestly don't give a damn about responsible gambling, after all, it does make them money.
2684  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: About Snooker Game on: February 05, 2022, 10:32:44 AM
Snooker is played on a table similar to a pool table... different set of rules, different table, different balls, you get the picture. Smiley
Here you can read more about it, a bit about the history, rules, etc What Is the Difference Between Billiards, Pool, and Snooker?
Turns out I've been calling pool as billiards all this time (It's what my friends called it when we were playing it way back then lmao). The general rule seems to be similar across all three games? Most differences are in the way players can score points or the way the points are needed to be scored, but other than that, they're almost the same to each other.

besides, is there a crypto casino having this game in their list? or even in sportsbetting, i have never encountered this sports in their list. but i do agree, some people are into this sports. there's an upcoming world snooker championship this April, so let us see if some of these crypto casinos will list this event and give odds to the players.
maybe, the odds are mostly available in fiat bookies but we will see if crypto casinos will touch this event...
Yep, I tried looking up the name on some casinos and I managed to find some tournaments about it you can bet on. I looked around sportsbet.io iirc? Not sure if it was the exact sport but what are the chances of sports having the exact same no?
2685  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it just me or people are out of liquidity ( money ) ? on: February 05, 2022, 08:27:44 AM
Nope, not really? There have been complaints about the gradual price increase of some products here and there, but not to the point that people will not buy them. It's like complaining for 5 seconds before accepting that things would still happen nonetheless, so they just go with it. I haven't even experienced a point where groceries and the like limited the amount that they'd sell, at least in the past year (start of Covid it happened afaik). Might just be limited in your place?
2686  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bet365 and UFC extended their partnership on: February 05, 2022, 07:17:24 AM
Sounds pretty good imo. UFC has some pretty solid fan base (or the sports itself) afaik, so they wouldn't really lose out with them extending their partnership, not to mention that it has already shown results over the year. It'd probably also entice some users to go into bet365 with this, so it's a win-win for both of them really. The youtube live is also a really nice feature as well, together with their rewards, it's a pretty nice addition to the stuff they could give out to their users, not to mention how YT is pretty much a universal platform now for livestreams.
2687  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Roobet & Rollbit on: February 05, 2022, 12:54:01 AM
I would directly ask in their respective thread but I had to post twice in both threads. I could have PMed them but thought to share it here.
Roobet & Rollbit seem to be operating by same owner. I don’t know how to check, I don’t want to explain either why do I think these both casinos are operating by same people.

It is possible that they acknowledged but I don't know. Hence, to community, do you know anything about this? Do these are operated by same or different person? What's your opinion on this? I don’t have any complaints or accusations. I'm just looking for a clarification whether both managed by one owner or not.
Idk man, sounds like you just avoided asking them directly and instead opted for the option of asking indirectly. Plus your guess is pretty much, well, THAT. A guess, nothing backed it up since you didn't want to share, so it's like most of us are just presenting general info which honestly can easily be found.
I checked their license to see what company they used to register their gambling site. now, while Rollbit license is showing that they are owned by Bull Gaming N.V., Roobet license is showing that they are owned by Raw Entertainment B.V. unless both of the companies they used are owned by the same person I don't think the two gambling site is related. anyway, you can see their license on the bottom of their web page.

Tried looking up a bunch of info regarding the two, not really much was found, Bull Gaming was relatively new so there wasn't really anything, Raw Entertainment on the other hand had a few results BUT it was quite lacking (and confusing) so i won't share any. I did try to look up directly who are the owners and Roobet was under TEK5HOU instead of Raw Entertainment. Might be under it or a sister company idrk. Rollbit was under Bull gaming indeed though, but no official site from what I looked up.
2688  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A little reminder why Bitcoin is necessary on: February 04, 2022, 05:38:18 PM
My interpretation (right or wrong): Paypal will give you the boot if they do not like you, Bitcoin embraces you.
Well, they'd only boot you if you did something wrong (or idk, someone from higherups hates you, which is the less likely occurrence most of the time imo). Honestly, it's they're right, it is the business they are running so they have to take some measures so that if ever there were some malicious activities, they can immediately cut it off without having the issue of legality since well, they already stated they could do so. Nothing really wrong imo.

Bitcoin being the better option isn't necessarily always true, it's always a subjective type kind of thing, or maybe situational idrk, see it depends.
2689  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I want your happiness. on: February 04, 2022, 02:42:29 PM
Well, that's the thing with trading, it goes hand in hand with stress, and if you were to start saying everything gives stress, then the stress in trading is way more because of the fact that you directly handle money while doing it. It's nothing odd or new really, most traders experience it, it's just that the level you can handle is correlated to the amount of money you actually have or earn in a daily basis, not counting the ones that you get from trading. If you were plenty rich, then trading wouldn't be that stressful if you were handling levels that could be easily handled (though if it were BIG numbers, then yea, they'd also feel a sting tbf).
2690  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: About Snooker Game on: February 04, 2022, 08:15:11 AM
So it's kind of billiards but a different set of rules? Probably why it isn't that known, most people would probably know (and prefer) the well known billiards instead of that, not to mention that billiards isn't exactly a very famous sport (at least, on some countries). There should still be matches that are being betted on though, not that I know where exactly since I don't look for them. Others have said it though, so goodluck to you finding it. Might watch a few matches since it's honestly my first time finding the term.
2691  Economy / Speculation / Re: who is btc price changed every second on: February 04, 2022, 03:19:34 AM
As others have said, supply and demand. The investors and the traders are the main players, and it's really up to the demand that they show, (probably based on general market movement + some general trend/news out there). There isn't really any "who" on the famous coins such as Bitcoin since there's a LOT of traders that trade them, literally everyone on the market can be the "who" part of your question. Plus, it can change a lot in a few mere minutes or seconds due to the existence of bots and stuff like that.
2692  Economy / Speculation / Re: How come BTC is not at least $75,000 yet? on: February 04, 2022, 12:45:33 AM
I'm guessing they're still thinking that Bitcoin isn't needed for the inflation that's happening. Or, a lot of people just don't know about it. Not to mention that the general trend of Bitcoin right now has been downward, so it pretty much just added a reason for people to actually avoid investing in crypto. Most people wouldn't even start thinking of Bitcoin as a way to avoid inflation, after all, it didn't become famous (to most hype investors) because of that, it was because it could bring in money.
2693  Economy / Economics / Re: Worried about inflation? In Argentina, it’s a way of life. on: February 03, 2022, 05:50:14 PM
No one please don't be offended with my statement but I have to mention it, Does people really have the knowledge to understand about inflation to worry about it whether its US or Argentina?

I am talking about the majority who don't understand even people with master degree graduation because they think that finance is not their thing so they never really care about it, they are assuming that they are getting more salary every year but the reality is they are just getting compensated or even lesser salary than previous year depending on the money's purchasing power loss.
I'd say no. Honestly I was the same a few years back, I just had that period where I was into finance and stuff (mostly due to crypto) which made me look stuff up. I was in college by then already (Still am), and there's really nothing being taught about stuff like that. I don't think finance courses even teach it themselves, maybe touch upon the past inflation crisis issues but not the current one that is happening right now. Though it is quite obvious with what my parents told me about the purchasing power on their time and the current time.
2694  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Evolution Thiefs but no help from stake support on: February 03, 2022, 01:45:46 PM
I talk to provider they say they check it and they say my bet qas 44$ not 22$ you can see on the photo i  sent its show 22$
So you were able to talk to them no? Then that means that you should show them the proof, and talk it out with them, that's it. Now if they refuse to acknowledge (if whatever you're saying is true), then just post an official scam accusation, preferably with better proof than an sc of the table, probably something like a bet history instead, or maybe a video proof if you were able to record it. Honestly stake isn't an issue here, it seems like they already said they have no responsibility for it. Talk with Evolution gaming instead of stake, stake is pretty much is out of this.
2695  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How will u feel if d price of 1BTC exceeds $1m by 2030 as its made legal tender on: February 03, 2022, 10:05:51 AM
Idk, should I feel good about it being $1m? I mean I am investing in it, but I'd probably be putting my emotions on me profiting off of my investment rather than Bitcoin increasing in price itself (though I guess that counts the same?). Honestly considering the time it would also take, It'd probably just kill off the excitement, not to mention that it won't be that big of an increment anymore since if we do get to $1m, it'd be natural that we'd be seeing increases in price prior to that year.
2696  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Evolution Thiefs but no help from stake support on: February 03, 2022, 04:20:08 AM
So if I get this right, stake is providing their platform for games under evolution gaming, OP made a bet but the one that proceeded was a mistake, and now stake doesn't (or can't) do anything about it since the provider themselves said OP indeed made the bet and that they have no responsibility am I right? Idk about their TOS but you can probably check it out and see whether issues with the games of providers would fall under their jurisdiction? Cause if not, then they indeed have no responsibility for it. If so, then you can post that as additional proof for your accusation.

Maybe try to instead ask how you could ask for a refund via the provider? Idk much about these so I might be wrong.
2697  Economy / Gambling / Re: This is why I love this forum...and we should make it more powerful on: February 03, 2022, 01:02:20 AM
I hope people don't get the Idea that posting their issue on a gambling site here in the forum will solve their problem. and most of the time, it won't. I don't deny that the(or a) forum can sometimes put pressure on a gambling site but overestimating the influence a forum can have on the decision of a gambling site on their issues can give someone a false sense of hope.
Well, it certainly sometimes don't, but it does give traction to other players to stop using the site though. I mean, yea, Ig in that case it's a needless task since the one that posted it wouldn't really get anything out of it, but at the very least, other users wouldn't fall into the same predicament. It's just like how people share who are the scammers, even if they can't get what they were scammed back, it's a pretty nice thing to do imo. Plus, if there's a chance, why not do it no? Especially if said forum (not just here specifically) has a mod or two that's active, you can directly talk about it with them easily.
2698  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I was finally able to purchase an iPhone 13 pro max using my Bitcoin on: February 02, 2022, 01:35:31 PM
Lol, My target was not to buy i phone 13 pro max. It was my dream to buy it. I went to buy another company's phone like Oneplus.  But after going to the showroom. I became interested in buying an iPhone 13. And when the shopkeeper decided to accept Bitcoin, I bought it easily.
Well, I guess you were pretty lucky since the store was willing to accept Bitcoin, congrats! Honestly, even if you consider the future price of Bitcoin when you bought, it stands that it's still in the "future", while what you're going to use for your phone is in the present, so I'd reckon it's a good purchase nonetheless. Plus if you're hodling a pretty sizeable amount and you're holding for the long term, I reckon spending a bit wouldn't hurt you that much. It'd be kind of dumb to use Bitcoin to pay if that was everything you have invested though, hope OP didn't do such a thing.
2699  Economy / Gambling / Re: What are the best ways to choose a casino on: February 02, 2022, 08:04:54 AM
Well, some gamblers prefer to stay anonymous when they gamble. Its one of the reason why they dont want to comply to kyc specially they're just an average gamblers. It would be better if this is optional on a casino. If you want to raise your limits then you need to comply on their kyc requirement otherwise you can play without worrying about it.
It bloody has no purpose if it was "optional". I mean, users would just simply avoid using it anymore, and besides, KYC isn't something that is supposed to be optional, it's supposed to be something pretty much guaranteed by the casino to be done to users once a certain criterion has been met. Even then honestly, they still hold the right to do KYC even if you didn't meet the criteria, all because they're pretty much the owner of the casino, nothing we can do about that.
2700  Economy / Gambling / Re: Livecasino.io -Welcome the a new crypto friendly casino!!! on: February 02, 2022, 05:06:08 AM
Welcome to the forum, I'm guessing crypto was a recent add on to the site seeing as the website was pretty old, and it seems like others have already seen the casino in the past?

I opened the site and was greeted with a "not available in your jurisdiction" pop up but good thing I can still view the home page. You said Metamask integration will come soon so I'm curious how will you implement the country restriction once it is live?

Some members may ask for license sooner or later so you can also add that in your post as a positive.
License was below, the footer part, Curacao license under 1668/JAZ. As for metamask, I don't think it has a country restriction? The casino itself may have one though, just like what happened in your case.

First of all, Welcome to the Forum.
Secondly, it would have been great if you could add some nice designs to the OP in order to look attractive.
Coming to the site and ANN, you have missed the info about the KYC and allowed countries in the casino.
Also it will be more beneficial for the site if someone will remain active here in the forum, and answer to all queries.
Nevertheless, wish you and your team Good luck for the future.
KYC procedures were in the site, it's pretty standard really.
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Livecasino reserves the right to carry out additional KYC verification procedures for any withdrawal exceeding 2,000 EUR or the same value in cryptocurrencies, as regulated by our gaming license, and further reserves the right to carry out such verification procedures in case of smaller withdrawals, as demanded by our gaming license.

So yea, even with small withdrawals they may just slam you with KYC. So give up on trying to actually play expecting no KYC, no, they're pretty much gonna slam you with that once you start going into their game.
I think you mean to say bitcasino, for me this new site looks quite similar to bitcasino instead of sportsbet. Anyway, I do not think they have any connection with sportsbet or bitcasino. High likely they are trying to use similar design or probably bought similar gambling software/script. I took a look at the terms page of livecasino and I can say more than 95% are copied from the terms of bitcasino.

Okay, I think it wouldn't be odd for both sites to have the same UI, they're owned by the same company, Moon Technologies B.V. Take a look at the footer of both sites. Licenses seem to be registered under the same company name and address.
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