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2701  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What's your plan if you bought around all time high? on: April 23, 2019, 11:21:55 PM
I want to ask everyone who got into bitcoin towards the end of 2017 and is currently at a loss, like myself  Sad What will you do when the market goes up and you get your money back. Sell or just keep holding?
I'll take my profit first and the rest I'll keep on my wallet. Yeah it's horrible when someone bought bitcoin on ATH 2017 ago. And I can feel too, but I didn't bought bitcoin but I bought ETH and Tron at that time. I bought when ETH price $1200 and you can compare with the current price and imagine how I felt the loss it is. However, this is that I shouldn't feel a regret I should have a lot of motivation to pass it and I should have a lot of patience to face it and I can do it so far.
2702  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: When did you start trading? on: April 23, 2019, 04:47:15 PM
I tried to learn about trading a week ago and yeah I got interested to know about trading especially about technical analyst. I learn more about what technical analyst is and some indacators that I need to know also in order to every decisions I make based on it. After that, I tried to trade and I spent 0.01 BTC as a start and greatfully I can make profit so far (about one week) and I got around 0.0023 BTC (including my fund) at this time.

Related to your question, which I feel it's not about good time and bad time when you start day trading. But I find some experience from the other trader and some of them said the good time to do trading is when you get profit, I mean if you do trading in the morning and you get profit then it's the best time for you to do trading. Do it continously and make a schedule that in the morning is your time to trade.
2703  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin price will hit $1 million in 2020 because of mathematics: John McAfee on: April 23, 2019, 04:04:15 PM
This scammer made me lose 10k USD in one of his ICOS.


I'm sorry for your loss. But what do you want to see, Bitcoin's price to hit $1,000,000 on 2020? Or John McAfee eat his own dick on national television. Cool
I wanna see, but yeah it will not happen if bitcoin doesn't up to $1,000,000. Sometimes I won't take seriously if there are some poeple who has an intelligence (maybe) and says something moreover about prediction. And I'll bet he won't do anything and he will make clarification about a prediction he made.
2704  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Airdrop is more profitable than Social Media Bounty ? on: April 23, 2019, 11:47:22 AM
Depend on the project itself, if you taken part with an airdrop that had a good potential so as will make many people interested then you will get a lot of profit from it. But if you taken part with an airdrop that has no potential even end up with scam so won't get anything but you not deserve to regret it because the rule of airdrop is too easy. You just fill up the form and promote the airdrop in your social media account, just it.

But social media campaign need a long time for you to get a profit. At least you need one month to work with them and promote their project every days. Actually, I have never taken part with social medis campaign but If I see the report from bounty hunters it looks like need a more time to do it. I have to know the project itself so as when I promote the project will attrack some investors. Again, if we talk about profit it depends on the project, if the project doesn't has a potential then your job will useless. Think about it again.
2705  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling is an entertainment? on: April 20, 2019, 04:36:32 PM
Most of the people states that gambling is form of entertainment but the reality is different gambling is like business where people look to make more money from investing little money but most of them will get failed.

So in your view gambling is business or entertainment,answer honestly. Cheesy
Sometimes I used gambling just for an entertainment and sometimes I used gambling as a way to get profit. If I have enough money and come to gambling place such as bustadice I really play it as an entertainment and also I can play without worried for my money loss, just expect if I won I'll withdraw it and inviting some of my friend to break bread and I'll pay the bill. But when I want something and my nest egg is not enough to pay it then I'll use gambling to make profit and I'll do anything to get won.
2706  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is Comodities/Currency/as Payment Methode? on: April 20, 2019, 03:51:23 PM
In the side of function for the first time bitcoin being created was for payment system and I thought that was an intention why Satoshi Nakamoto created it. However, we can't deny what has been happened now when bitcoin grown up and lots of people interested to having bitcoin so as make bitcoin price become volatile and we can see there is a friction function for the user who has it.

Surely, with the regulation from their government also make some of its user must determine what will do with it. To be honest, I have never used bitcoin as payment system since my government still ban it. But I have to respect what has been done by them, as a replacement they have regulated bitcoin last year and counted bitcoin as commodities.

I still hard to believe that bitcoin can be use as payment system especially in my country. Even though I still have an expect that I can use and even I call bitcoin as payment system or a currency in the future. But it depends on my government because I can't say bitcoin is a money or bitcoin can be use as payment system whilst I can't use it function.
2707  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: From when you are involved with bitcoin? Had u wondered why you not meet before? on: April 20, 2019, 03:22:08 PM
Actually I intend to know bitcoin just because some of my friends got lots of money from it. I didn't know bitcoin was money and can be used as payment system at that time (approximately in the end of 2016 ago) but I never trust to my friend that he really gets lots of money from it, so I decided to leave it and just focus on my job.

But in 2017 I feel interested to know bitcoin more because at that time bitcoin being popular and even I can see in trending topic on twitter. With the felt clumsy and a bit guilty I came to my friend's house and learn about bitcoin to him. So I decided to bought bitcoin and still remember the price bitcoin was $8000 with my funds around $500 at that time. My friend just laughed me because if I heard him previously I can bought 1 bitcoin with $500 but it's not my fortune maybe.
2708  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Do you guys read daily crypto news? on: April 19, 2019, 04:58:52 PM
I think it is one of the essential things in order to invest crypto.
Do you guys read daily crypto news?
Depends on your investment strategy, if you choose for long term investment then I don't think you have to see the crypto news daily unless it just for your knowledge. But if you choose for short term investment or becomes a trader then to read crypto news daily is important. The cryptocurrency prices are very sensitive and it's because be affected by some information that comes.
2709  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: (Diskusi) Bitcoin / mata uang virtual erat kemungkinan dengan tindakan illegal on: April 19, 2019, 03:52:59 PM
Sedikit saran untuk OP ataupun orang yang baru mengenal bitcoin dan cryptocurrency secara keseluruhan jika ingin menilai bitcoin baik dari sisi fungsi dan sisi yang lainnya maka lihatlah pada dua sisi yang berbeda (positif dan negatif) setelah itu agan bisa membuat sebuah kesimpulan.

Saya kira banyak juga artikel-artikel yang memberikan penilaian positif terhadap bitcoin dan hal ini akan menjawab pertanyaan agan "kenapa masih banyak masyarakat yang berkecimpung didalamnya apalagi dengan jumlah yang besar, padahal sudah tau resiko yang ada". Jika agan sudah membaca sisi positif pada bitcoin saya yakin pertanyaan agan ini bisa agan jawab sendiri. Karena, untuk menimbang sebuah resiko yang akan dihadapi itu tergantung pada pribadi masing-masing, pandangan resiko agan terhadap bitcoin akan berbeda dengan pandangan resiko saya terhadap bitcoin.

Begitupun dengan fungsi bitcoin, saya tidak akan menampik jika memang disana ada seseorang yang menggunakan bitcoin untuk hal hal yang negatif karena itu haknya, mereka bisa menggunakan bitcoin untuk hal apapun. Namun pantaskah ketika ada seseorang atau sebagian kelompok menggunakan bitcoin untuk hal-hal negatif lantas kita menyalahkan bitcoin? Sama halnya ketika ada seseorang yang ingin membeli narkoba dll menggunakan rupiah, lalu pantaskah kita menyalahkan rupiah?


Dengan 100% keyakinan saya akan menjawab tidak.


2710  Economy / Economics / Re: Why spend time in bitcoins? on: April 19, 2019, 02:44:58 PM
No, i do not spend more time to.bitcoin only especially if I could just invested and leave bitcoin in my cold wallet over a period of time. This seems better than trading bitcoin to which is very risky because of its highly volatile market. There is no way one could predict it accurately even the professional analyst could not make it.
May I know, how many years you will save bitcoin in your storage wallet? it that means you will use bitcoin when the price increased and you will sell it. Each people has own strategy when he has bitcoin, there is no very risky way or comfortable way when he has bitcoin. Each people just find a chance to get profit however that is the way. You have a strategy for long term investment or over period of time but how you can believe it is the best way to get profit? with your prediction? yeah look at the last statement that you say.
2711  Economy / Economics / Re: Can Bitcoin Beat Banks? on: April 19, 2019, 02:34:55 PM
Possible but it is all in the hands of us,when we are using cryptos for payment then it will make revolution on the payment system which could destroy the old centralized system but with the current intention of crypto investors it will never replace traditional banking because at some stage we need banks for cashing out our cryptos as fiat.
Unless we make a new country to do it, just awkward thing when you say cryptocurrency is possible to defeat bank's function in the future and nay that all in the hand of us. How we can do for cryptocurrency can be accepted well by government? everything has been done by us maybe but government still make a limit for cryptocurrency especially bitcoin grow up. Moreover, bitcoin has been known by plenty people in my country as negative thing. So, although the government accept cryptocurrency maybe just a little possibilities they will choose it.
2712  Economy / Economics / Re: How can we get people to use bitcoin as a currency? on: April 18, 2019, 06:24:25 PM
Bitcoin according to the whitepaper and vision of Satoshi Nakamoto was to see bitcoin as another means of making payment for transactions hence a true definition of a currency. But along the line bitcoin is now being held as an asset with very little functions of a cryptocurrency. We can increase the use of bitcoin as a currency if we educate more people about it and also tell them of its features over that of fiat currencies.
It's indeed a thing which is important, when a lot of people uses bitcoin as investment place then we will never see bitcoin be used as payment system by its users. The habit of the person is so hard to change if they have been comfortable to use bitcoin as of it. Hopefully, this is only regulation factors, as you may know just a few merchants who uses bitcoin as payment system and even for those who still have confidence to ban bitcoin to be use it. So I think this is not about volatile side which owned by bitcoin who has talked by many people, but it is regulation factor because when government allowing bitcoin to be use as payment system then we will see lots of merchants also who uses it.
2713  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling is an entertainment? on: April 18, 2019, 03:47:38 PM
Depend on yourself, if you come to gambling place because you need an entertainment for your life then you make gambling just for entertainment without you have worried about your money. But for those people especially for business person they will gambling place as the place to gain profit, with a note you have lots of money to build either you create a gambling place or to be an investor. However, for an addict I don't think which one he belongs to, just impossible if he belongs to the person who makes gambling as entertainment because they need a more money to keep play on it and also if I include an addict to business person then I'm sure he is not suitable to be there.
2714  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling.. way to loss on: April 18, 2019, 03:38:04 PM
Yes, I know there is a lot of financial losses in gambling. Because gambling is the game of fate. Gambling depends on fate to play. That's totally uncertain. Although there is some temporary gain in gambling, the financial loss is more. Nobody can benefit from playing gambling. Gambling is not a way to earn money. Gambling is just a game. I think there is a way to cause gambling. If someone wants to harm himself, then I'll tell him to play gambling.

Thank you
If there is nobody can get profit in gambling then I'll bet with 100% gambling place will be leaved by all people. There is no one who decide to come back again although they felt a lost because they once won, this matter who will they come back again IMO. Gambling is not about a fate but it depends on someone itself. If they comes to play gambling and they do gambling with a strategy then I'm sure they have a little chance to make them always loss but if someone come and start betting without know the gambling before even he just play and doesn't know the rule its then I'm sure this type person will get a loss everytime he comes to play gambling.
2715  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you gamble only with Bitcoin and do you have other favorite alt-coin? on: April 18, 2019, 03:28:09 PM
I don't have a much time to try another place betting unless in my signature only. Since 2018 ago I just played dice game in one place just sometimes I try to another dice game in other place but I can't feel comfortable I only comfortable when I used bustadice. So you will know my answer is, because I ralely to make a deposit because I only play when I have paid in signature campaign. 
2716  Economy / Speculation / Re: 2019 BITCOIN Price? on: April 17, 2019, 06:05:11 PM
A good and bright future are waiting for bitcoin. We are near to see a big pump. Bitcoin will hit $15k soon. We should wait and work for that. If we support bitcoin, it will obviously hit a big amount within short time.
What analysis did you use? Only see at the movement price up and then you have a confidence bitcoin will continue to up so I think it's a predict that doesn't use an analysis. Whilst, if you do a predict of the bitcoin price you need to use at least with two analyst, although to predict a price for long term I tend to use fundamental analysis.
2717  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Pandangan negatif terhadap para pengguna crypto on: April 17, 2019, 05:51:40 PM
saat saya jelaskan lebih rinci tentang sistemnya seperti apa mereka malah tambah bingung.
Pola pikir masyarakat akan selalu berkembang dan saya yakin itu, memang yang akan menjadi kesulitan adalah ketika menjelaskan crypto itu apa terhadap orang tua ataupun calon mertua (pengalaman pahit disini) atau bagi mereka yang masih kurang memahami dunia teknologi.

Namun saya yakin bagi anak-anak muda atau bagi mereka yang kesehariannya selalu tidak lepas dengan sebuah gadget mungkin itu akan lebih gampang. Maksud saya, ketika mereka memang tidak mengerti dengan penjelasan yang kita sampaikan mereka bisa mencarinya sendiri di internet. Tinggal buka google lalu tekan search dan akan ada puluhan atau bahkan ratusan artikel yang membahas tentang cryptocurrency.

Terkait masalah hukum saya kira setiap orang mempunyai pandangannya masing-masing, terlebih pemerintah Indonesia sudah melegalisasinya jika ada orang yang mengatakan itu haram maka mereka bisa berdebat dengan pemerintah. Karena saya yakin sebelum cryptocurrency ini dilegalkan akan ada pertimbangan dari sisi hukumnya dan pemerintah mempunyai orang-orang yang lebih mengerti tentang hukum tersebut (baik itu secara agama ataupun hukum yang berdasarkan UUD).
2718  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Scammer merajalela. Hati2 jangan tergiur. on: April 17, 2019, 05:29:29 PM
Agan @Rampagoe004 ada beberapa kemungkinan bisa saja kena virus malware karena memang teman agan mendownload sebuah aplikasi ataupun file disebuah tempat yang telah disisipi malware. Lalu kemungkinan kedua bisa saja kena key logger (perekam ketikan) untuk memahami apa itu key logger akan bisa membacanya di Wikipedia.

Usahakan sebelum memutuskan untuk mendownload sebuah file apapun agan harus lebih berhati hati. Ada beberapa cara untuk menghindari pc/laptop/agan agar tidak terkena virus malware ini dan salah satunya dengan cara mengeceknya di  VirulTotal, setiap kali agan mau mendownload sebuh file silahkan copy paste link downloadnya (bukan link websitenya) dan nanti VirusTotal akan mendeteksi link tersebut terkena malware atau tidaknya.





2719  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Is Bitcoin SV going to crash? on: April 16, 2019, 04:36:52 PM
Just curious what will happen in a few day after, you may remember when this coin was created. Some people separated into 2 bunch and boast of the coins they choose and defame the coins they hated. But now, we can see the winner of the bunch and we can see where the price will stop. Will BSV still have a valaue?
2720  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: You Can't Be Jobless And Be Participating In Bounties on: April 16, 2019, 04:26:19 PM
In my opinion, Bounties have now become a place for people to look for income. even bounties have proven that many people are successful by participating in bounties.
But that fact just happened in long time ago when cryptocurrency achieved a popularity but now I don't think they will still say what you are say. Project scam, token hasn't listed on the exchange and for some bounty hunters who didn't pay by their works those are an important thing that you should know.
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